Arnel's Voice

[JohnH]

Did you watch the interview segment on the website? The band performed with no sleep..

You aren't kidding!!!!!

A buddy who works with one of the road guys in the Springsteen camp told me the lobby call is 4AM for the Today show!

(Springsteen and the E streeters played Today in Sept, 2007).

[steveo777]

Did you watch the interview segment on the website? The band performed with no sleep. Neal explained that. I don't think he sounded bad at all considering. He's not 25. Those of you who want your singers to sound live like they did in their 20's are going to be continually disappointed, unless you start listening to younger bands. A lot of you know the world these guys live in...the cigarette smoke, the alcohol, the crappy food, the lack of time or facilities for exercise. It all leads to deteriorating vocals. If you want an example of a guy Arnel's age whose voice is going, check out Ray Alder of Fates Warning. The guy had a beautiful tenor voice in the late 80' through the mid 90's, but it's merely a shadow of what it once was thanks to his constant smoking and all the touring he's done in the past 20 years. We're lucky Arnel hasn't had much touring experience, and he lives a healthy lifestyle, but his voice will eventually go the way of every other tenor eventually with the touring that Journey does.

Arnel doesn't smoke either, but I wonder if Neal still does. I think Neal, Ross and Deen smoke and JC and AP don't. Is that right?

Ross smokes? Get the fuck outta here!

Fans have seen Ross outback smoking.

[Rick]

I don't think the fragility of Arnel's voice is the biggest threat to the band.

Neil being the driving force in the band is about as productive as Obama's "laser-like focus on jobs".

Holy shit, I actually agree with you.

One more piece of shit like "Eclipse" and I won't be buying any more Journey albums.

Too bad. Lots of us like it.

Dude, if Neil blew his nose in your presence, you'd dig the tissue out of the trash and have it framed for your bedroom wall.

I'm a fan of Journey, always have been. Band has always come first and it's always been about the music for me, including all their
past and present excellent singers. My liking of the band's music is not gonna change, no matter what some of you Fagulas say.
I'm not a Perry ball licking sycophant like some of ya all.

Fucker. Made me spit tea.

[steveo777]

I don't think the fragility of Arnel's voice is the biggest threat to the band.

Neil being the driving force in the band is about as productive as Obama's "laser-like focus on jobs".

Holy shit, I actually agree with you.

One more piece of shit like "Eclipse" and I won't be buying any more Journey albums.

Too bad. Lots of us like it.

Dude, if Neil blew his nose in your presence, you'd dig the tissue out of the trash and have it framed for your bedroom wall.

I'm a fan of Journey, always have been. Band has always come first and it's always been about the music for me, including all their
past and present excellent singers. My liking of the band's music is not gonna change, no matter what some of you Fagulas say.
I'm not a Perry ball licking sycophant like some of ya all.

Fucker. Made me spit tea.

Glad some of you fuckers aren't as serious as previously thought!

[JohnH]

Did you watch the interview segment on the website? The band performed with no sleep. Neal explained that. I don't think he sounded bad at all considering. He's not 25. Those of you who want your singers to sound live like they did in their 20's are going to be continually disappointed, unless you start listening to younger bands. A lot of you know the world these guys live in...the cigarette smoke, the alcohol, the crappy food, the lack of time or facilities for exercise. It all leads to deteriorating vocals. If you want an example of a guy Arnel's age whose voice is going, check out Ray Alder of Fates Warning. The guy had a beautiful tenor voice in the late 80' through the mid 90's, but it's merely a shadow of what it once was thanks to his constant smoking and all the touring he's done in the past 20 years. We're lucky Arnel hasn't had much touring experience, and he lives a healthy lifestyle, but his voice will eventually go the way of every other tenor eventually with the touring that Journey does.

Arnel doesn't smoke either, but I wonder if Neal still does. I think Neal, Ross and Deen smoke and JC and AP don't. Is that right?

Ross smokes? Get the fuck outta here!

Fans have seen Ross outback smoking.

Ah comeon, just look at Ross's face. Looking like leather comes from smoking. (Another reason why smoking is so fucking stupid!) It ruins your voice and your looks!

[yulog]

Summertime in The United States should be 50 shows, at the most, in the original key. Period. That's 50 shows in about 13 weeks. For instance, you perform on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. Why is that so hard to figure out?

Even Perry complained about the tour routing back in the day.... wanting to protect his "instrument," which was "not like a guitar." If they didn't figure it out when they were selling out stadiums, they're not going to bail now -- right SJ?

I'd give Perry the benefit of the doubt with that statement, but he did play the following dates at age 43-44 without Journey, so I simply can't. Does it appear that he had any respect for what little voice he had left? Notice that, from November 14th-November 25th, he played 10 shows in 12 nights. Goodbye voice ... never to be heard from again after this tour. But, you're right, they should have learned from it.

Tour dates

Oct. 22, 1994 Minneapolis, MN Sass Jordan
Oct 24, 1994 St. Louis, MO Sass Jordan
Oct. 28, 1994 Taft Theater. Cincinnati, OH Sass Jordan
Oct. 29, 1994 Music Hall. Cleveland, OH Sass Jordan
Oct. 30, 1994 Arie Crown Theater. Chicago, IL Sass Jordan
Nov. 1, 1994 A.J. Palumbo Auditorium. Pittsburgh, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 2, 1994 Fox Theater. Detroit ,MI Sass Jordan
Nov. 5, 1994 Stabler Arena. Lehigh Campus. Bethleham, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 7, 1994 DAR Constitution Hall. D.C. Sass Jordan
Nov. 10, 1994 A.J. Palumbo Center. Pittsburgh, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 14, 1994 Albany, NY Sass Jordan
Nov. 15, 1994 Massey Hall, Toronto, ONT Sass Jordan
Nov. 16, 1994 Tower Theater, Philadelphia Upper Darby, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 17, 1994 Central Maine Civic Center. Lewiston, ME Sass Jordan
Nov. 18, 1994 Orpheum Theater. Boston, Ma Sass Jordan
Nov. 20, 1994 Hershey Park Arena. Hershey, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 22, 1994 Fox Theater. Atlanta, GA Sass Jordan
Nov. 23, 1994 Jacksonville, FL Sass Jordan
Nov. 24, 1994 Bob Carr Performing Arts Center. Orlando, FL Sass Jordan
Nov. 25, 1994 Sunrise Musical Theater. Sunrise, FL Sass Jordan
Nov. 27, 1994 Mahaffey Theater. St. Petersburg, FL Sass Jordan
Dec. 2, 1994 Municipal Auditorium. San Antonio, TX Sass Jordan
Dec. 3, 1994 Will Rogers Memorial. Forth Worth, TX Sass Jordan
Dec. 7, 1994 Aladdin Theater, Las Vegas, NV Sass Jordan
Dec. 9, 1994 Fort Worth, TX Sass Jordan
Dec. 10, 1994 Warner's Theater. Fresno, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 12, 1994 Speckles Theater .San Diego, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 16, 1994 Pantages Theater. Los Angeles, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 17, 1994 Pantages Theater . Los Angeles, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 18, 1994 Pantages Theater . Los Angeles, CA Sass Jordan
Jan. 11, 1995 Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall Portland, OR Sass Jordan
Jan. 13, 1995 Seattle, Washington
Jan. 15, 1995 Abravanel Hall. Salt Lake City, Utah Sass Jordan
Jan. 19, 1995 Memorial Auditorium.. Burlington, IW Sass Jordan
Jan. 20, 1995 Memorial Hall . Kansas City, Kansas Sass Jordan
Jan. 22, 1995 Veterans Memorial. Columbus, OH Sass Jordan
Jan. 25, 1995 Wings Stadium. Kalamazoo, MI Sass Jordan
Jan. 27, 1995 Shea's Performing Arts Center. Buffalo NY Sass Jordan
Jan. 28, 1995 Rochester Auditorium Center, Rochester, NY Sass Jordan
Feb. 2, 1995 Washington, DC Sass Jordan
Feb. 13, 1995 State Theater, New Brunswick, NJ.
Mar. 10, 1995 Abraham Chavez Theater. El Paso, TX Bone Pony
Mar. 11, 1995 Mesa Amphitheater. Mesa, AZ
Mar. 13, 1995 Bren Events Center. University of California. Irvine, CA Bone Pony
Mar. 14, 1995 Santa Barbara, CA Bone Pony
Mar. 16, 1995 San Francisco, CA
Mar. 18, 1995 Warnors Theater. Fresno, CA
Mar.1 22, 1995 San Juan, Puerto Rico

He didn't play the nov 25th date at sunrise, it was cancelled.

[Saint John]

He didn't play the nov 25th date at sunrise, it was cancelled.

Gee, I wonder why.

[jrnysc]

I KNOW Ross smokes. I have smoked with him in the hotel lobby in Baltimore a few years back.

[Eric]

Summertime in The United States should be 50 shows, at the most, in the original key. Period. That's 50 shows in about 13 weeks. For instance, you perform on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. Why is that so hard to figure out?

The "World" part should have been next year. How many shows have they done so far...and the traveling over there and all the heat this summer has to multiply that.

Band sounded good...he sounded like he was in control...but the meatloafing..yeah..no gouda.

[Eric]

One more piece of shit like "Eclipse" and I won't be buying any more Journey albums.

Eclipse rules.

Edge of the Moment and Wheel in the Sky were the bright spots of the Cincy show.

[Behshad]

I don't think the fragility of Arnel's voice is the biggest threat to the band.

Neil being the driving force in the band is about as productive as Obama's "laser-like focus on jobs".

Holy shit, I actually agree with you.

One more piece of shit like "Eclipse" and I won't be buying any more Journey albums.

Too bad. Lots of us like it.

Dude, if Neil blew his nose in your presence, you'd dig the tissue out of the trash and have it framed for your bedroom wall.

I'm a fan of Journey, always have been. Band has always cum first and it's always been about the sexual pleasure for me, including all their
past and present excellent singers. My liking of the band's music is not gonna change, cause I live for the backdoor I mean backstage passes .
I'm a Neil ball licking sycophant and proud of it .

Youre as bad as the loons, if not worse.
You love anything and everything they release, good or bad. Being an obsessed ball-licking fan like you is as bad as those who are naysayers regardless of what the band does.
A true fan, admits it when his favorite band releases crappy albums. You on the other hand THINK youre the true fan just cause you catch and swallow anything Neil shoots your way .

[brywool]

As many of you, who listened to the broadcast (or read about it) know, Arnel's voice did not seem at it's best. Sure, that was the raw feed, but it said a lot.

The more I think about this, the more I have concluded, they HAVE TO LET UP ON THE SCHEDULE! Yes, I know they are tuning down. BUT STILL. That is only half a step for songs that are vocalist murder. They HAVE to give the guy more consideration during the touring schedule. And this includes TV appearances between shows.

In 2009, didn't they make much more of an effort to give him multiple days off for rest/limits on how many shows they consecutively could play? And that tour had them doing 17-20 songs a night as part of a HEADLINING tour. I know the schedule is what it is, but the guy should be in much better shape after a year off!

COME ON JOURNEY! ARNEL IS YOUR FUTURE. RESPECT IT & PROTECT IT!

EXACTLY! They have to remember that when SMFP sang and toured those songs as a young man. Arnel is mid-forties and the catalog is REALLY difficult (and the guy's a great singer). They need to respect that. I know that Arnel seems to get sick quite a bit (that's what meet and greets will do to ya if you're not careful) and I believe he's had to resort to steroids a few times this tour already. Not the shots, but the pills as far as I know (and this has been glommed from reading chats and hearing interviews with the man himself- but he may have been joking). But if you get sick and you have to perform, it's the only thing that'll get you through. Lowering the songs definitely helps, but I remember they did that for Soto and he made the comment that it put the songs in a weird spot for his voice, so while on paper it'd seem the thing to do, it could add other issues to the equation.

[SF-Dano]

Summertime in The United States should be 50 shows, at the most, in the original key. Period. That's 50 shows in about 13 weeks. For instance, you perform on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. Why is that so hard to figure out?

Even Perry complained about the tour routing back in the day.... wanting to protect his "instrument," which was "not like a guitar." If they didn't figure it out when they were selling out stadiums, they're not going to bail now -- right SJ?

I'd give Perry the benefit of the doubt with that statement, but he did play the following dates at age 43-44 without Journey, so I simply can't. Does it appear that he had any respect for what little voice he had left? Notice that, from November 14th-November 25th, he played 10 shows in 12 nights. Goodbye voice ... never to be heard from again after this tour. But, you're right, they should have learned from it.

Tour dates

Oct. 22, 1994 Minneapolis, MN Sass Jordan
Oct 24, 1994 St. Louis, MO Sass Jordan
Oct. 28, 1994 Taft Theater. Cincinnati, OH Sass Jordan
Oct. 29, 1994 Music Hall. Cleveland, OH Sass Jordan
Oct. 30, 1994 Arie Crown Theater. Chicago, IL Sass Jordan
Nov. 1, 1994 A.J. Palumbo Auditorium. Pittsburgh, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 2, 1994 Fox Theater. Detroit ,MI Sass Jordan
Nov. 5, 1994 Stabler Arena. Lehigh Campus. Bethleham, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 7, 1994 DAR Constitution Hall. D.C. Sass Jordan
Nov. 10, 1994 A.J. Palumbo Center. Pittsburgh, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 14, 1994 Albany, NY Sass Jordan
Nov. 15, 1994 Massey Hall, Toronto, ONT Sass Jordan
Nov. 16, 1994 Tower Theater, Philadelphia Upper Darby, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 17, 1994 Central Maine Civic Center. Lewiston, ME Sass Jordan
Nov. 18, 1994 Orpheum Theater. Boston, Ma Sass Jordan
Nov. 20, 1994 Hershey Park Arena. Hershey, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 22, 1994 Fox Theater. Atlanta, GA Sass Jordan
Nov. 23, 1994 Jacksonville, FL Sass Jordan
Nov. 24, 1994 Bob Carr Performing Arts Center. Orlando, FL Sass Jordan
Nov. 25, 1994 Sunrise Musical Theater. Sunrise, FL Sass Jordan
Nov. 27, 1994 Mahaffey Theater. St. Petersburg, FL Sass Jordan
Dec. 2, 1994 Municipal Auditorium. San Antonio, TX Sass Jordan
Dec. 3, 1994 Will Rogers Memorial. Forth Worth, TX Sass Jordan
Dec. 7, 1994 Aladdin Theater, Las Vegas, NV Sass Jordan
Dec. 9, 1994 Fort Worth, TX Sass Jordan
Dec. 10, 1994 Warner's Theater. Fresno, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 12, 1994 Speckles Theater .San Diego, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 16, 1994 Pantages Theater. Los Angeles, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 17, 1994 Pantages Theater . Los Angeles, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 18, 1994 Pantages Theater . Los Angeles, CA Sass Jordan
Jan. 11, 1995 Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall Portland, OR Sass Jordan
Jan. 13, 1995 Seattle, Washington
Jan. 15, 1995 Abravanel Hall. Salt Lake City, Utah Sass Jordan
Jan. 19, 1995 Memorial Auditorium.. Burlington, IW Sass Jordan
Jan. 20, 1995 Memorial Hall . Kansas City, Kansas Sass Jordan
Jan. 22, 1995 Veterans Memorial. Columbus, OH Sass Jordan
Jan. 25, 1995 Wings Stadium. Kalamazoo, MI Sass Jordan
Jan. 27, 1995 Shea's Performing Arts Center. Buffalo NY Sass Jordan
Jan. 28, 1995 Rochester Auditorium Center, Rochester, NY Sass Jordan
Feb. 2, 1995 Washington, DC Sass Jordan
Feb. 13, 1995 State Theater, New Brunswick, NJ.
Mar. 10, 1995 Abraham Chavez Theater. El Paso, TX Bone Pony
Mar. 11, 1995 Mesa Amphitheater. Mesa, AZ
Mar. 13, 1995 Bren Events Center. University of California. Irvine, CA Bone Pony
Mar. 14, 1995 Santa Barbara, CA Bone Pony
Mar. 16, 1995 San Francisco, CA
Mar. 18, 1995 Warnors Theater. Fresno, CA
Mar.1 22, 1995 San Juan, Puerto Rico

He didn't play the nov 25th date at sunrise, it was cancelled.

I believe alot of these dates were cancelled, weren't they?

[SF-Dano]

I like Eclipse. The lyrics may not be the greatest, but I like the music. As said, it may not be a 100%er, but it is definitely not as bad a some are making it out to be. Just because Revelation sold a ton more does not make it a better album musically.

[cinkidd]

As many of you, who listened to the broadcast (or read about it) know, Arnel's voice did not seem at it's best. Sure, that was the raw feed, but it said a lot.

The more I think about this, the more I have concluded, they HAVE TO LET UP ON THE SCHEDULE! Yes, I know they are tuning down. BUT STILL. That is only half a step for songs that are vocalist murder. They HAVE to give the guy more consideration during the touring schedule. And this includes TV appearances between shows.

In 2009, didn't they make much more of an effort to give him multiple days off for rest/limits on how many shows they consecutively could play? And that tour had them doing 17-20 songs a night as part of a HEADLINING tour. I know the schedule is what it is, but the guy should be in much better shape after a year off!

COME ON JOURNEY! ARNEL IS YOUR FUTURE. RESPECT IT & PROTECT IT!

Let's be honest, yes the catalog is murder on vocalists, but what we heard live out of the speakers was not as flat as it sounded on the radio/web. I'm sure that the everything was before it hit the mixing board and therefore not really a quality that the band(s) would like to have out there, however also note that Foreigner also sounded flat as well compared to our live experience.

I do agree that something needs to be done to give Arnel a better chance of lasting and getting the best concert experience that there is, whether it be more breaks or just saying to hell with it and do every show a half or full step down.

Rich the Hell Guy

[yulog]

Summertime in The United States should be 50 shows, at the most, in the original key. Period. That's 50 shows in about 13 weeks. For instance, you perform on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. Why is that so hard to figure out?

Even Perry complained about the tour routing back in the day.... wanting to protect his "instrument," which was "not like a guitar." If they didn't figure it out when they were selling out stadiums, they're not going to bail now -- right SJ?

I'd give Perry the benefit of the doubt with that statement, but he did play the following dates at age 43-44 without Journey, so I simply can't. Does it appear that he had any respect for what little voice he had left? Notice that, from November 14th-November 25th, he played 10 shows in 12 nights. Goodbye voice ... never to be heard from again after this tour. But, you're right, they should have learned from it.

Tour dates

Oct. 22, 1994 Minneapolis, MN Sass Jordan
Oct 24, 1994 St. Louis, MO Sass Jordan
Oct. 28, 1994 Taft Theater. Cincinnati, OH Sass Jordan
Oct. 29, 1994 Music Hall. Cleveland, OH Sass Jordan
Oct. 30, 1994 Arie Crown Theater. Chicago, IL Sass Jordan
Nov. 1, 1994 A.J. Palumbo Auditorium. Pittsburgh, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 2, 1994 Fox Theater. Detroit ,MI Sass Jordan
Nov. 5, 1994 Stabler Arena. Lehigh Campus. Bethleham, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 7, 1994 DAR Constitution Hall. D.C. Sass Jordan
Nov. 10, 1994 A.J. Palumbo Center. Pittsburgh, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 14, 1994 Albany, NY Sass Jordan
Nov. 15, 1994 Massey Hall, Toronto, ONT Sass Jordan
Nov. 16, 1994 Tower Theater, Philadelphia Upper Darby, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 17, 1994 Central Maine Civic Center. Lewiston, ME Sass Jordan
Nov. 18, 1994 Orpheum Theater. Boston, Ma Sass Jordan
Nov. 20, 1994 Hershey Park Arena. Hershey, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 22, 1994 Fox Theater. Atlanta, GA Sass Jordan
Nov. 23, 1994 Jacksonville, FL Sass Jordan
Nov. 24, 1994 Bob Carr Performing Arts Center. Orlando, FL Sass Jordan
Nov. 25, 1994 Sunrise Musical Theater. Sunrise, FL Sass Jordan
Nov. 27, 1994 Mahaffey Theater. St. Petersburg, FL Sass Jordan
Dec. 2, 1994 Municipal Auditorium. San Antonio, TX Sass Jordan
Dec. 3, 1994 Will Rogers Memorial. Forth Worth, TX Sass Jordan
Dec. 7, 1994 Aladdin Theater, Las Vegas, NV Sass Jordan
Dec. 9, 1994 Fort Worth, TX Sass Jordan
Dec. 10, 1994 Warner's Theater. Fresno, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 12, 1994 Speckles Theater .San Diego, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 16, 1994 Pantages Theater. Los Angeles, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 17, 1994 Pantages Theater . Los Angeles, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 18, 1994 Pantages Theater . Los Angeles, CA Sass Jordan
Jan. 11, 1995 Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall Portland, OR Sass Jordan
Jan. 13, 1995 Seattle, Washington
Jan. 15, 1995 Abravanel Hall. Salt Lake City, Utah Sass Jordan
Jan. 19, 1995 Memorial Auditorium.. Burlington, IW Sass Jordan
Jan. 20, 1995 Memorial Hall . Kansas City, Kansas Sass Jordan
Jan. 22, 1995 Veterans Memorial. Columbus, OH Sass Jordan
Jan. 25, 1995 Wings Stadium. Kalamazoo, MI Sass Jordan
Jan. 27, 1995 Shea's Performing Arts Center. Buffalo NY Sass Jordan
Jan. 28, 1995 Rochester Auditorium Center, Rochester, NY Sass Jordan
Feb. 2, 1995 Washington, DC Sass Jordan
Feb. 13, 1995 State Theater, New Brunswick, NJ.
Mar. 10, 1995 Abraham Chavez Theater. El Paso, TX Bone Pony
Mar. 11, 1995 Mesa Amphitheater. Mesa, AZ
Mar. 13, 1995 Bren Events Center. University of California. Irvine, CA Bone Pony
Mar. 14, 1995 Santa Barbara, CA Bone Pony
Mar. 16, 1995 San Francisco, CA
Mar. 18, 1995 Warnors Theater. Fresno, CA
Mar.1 22, 1995 San Juan, Puerto Rico

He didn't play the nov 25th date at sunrise, it was cancelled.

I believe alot of these dates were cancelled, weren't they?

I think everything after the november 25th show was cancelled (I know the sunrise was cancelled because i went to visit a friend who had tickets and we drove an hour to this show) . When we arrived the place was sealed up like a foreclosure

[yulog]

I like Eclipse. The lyrics may not be the greatest, but I like the music. As said, it may not be a 100%er, but it is definitely not as bad a some are making it out to be. Just because Revelation sold a ton more does not make it a better album musically.

These bands that are heading into there 60's and don't have their original singers, it's to be expected that the cds are not going to be fantastic. Journey, Foreigner, Yes, each cd had a couple of good songs on them(2-3). Journey has just always been equated with at least half their songs being very good if not more. So for me Eclipse would have to be their worst effort since Perry joined the band. Still, 2-3 really good songs on a cd isn't bad nowadays,I have 1000 's of cds that are like that and i don't consider them trash. I usually will talk about the 2 good songs as opposed to the cd as a whole.

[Hollywood]

Summertime in The United States should be 50 shows, at the most, in the original key. Period. That's 50 shows in about 13 weeks. For instance, you perform on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. Why is that so hard to figure out?

Even Perry complained about the tour routing back in the day.... wanting to protect his "instrument," which was "not like a guitar." If they didn't figure it out when they were selling out stadiums, they're not going to bail now -- right SJ?

I'd give Perry the benefit of the doubt with that statement, but he did play the following dates at age 43-44 without Journey, so I simply can't. Does it appear that he had any respect for what little voice he had left? Notice that, from November 14th-November 25th, he played 10 shows in 12 nights. Goodbye voice ... never to be heard from again after this tour. But, you're right, they should have learned from it.

Tour dates

Oct. 22, 1994 Minneapolis, MN Sass Jordan
Oct 24, 1994 St. Louis, MO Sass Jordan
Oct. 28, 1994 Taft Theater. Cincinnati, OH Sass Jordan
Oct. 29, 1994 Music Hall. Cleveland, OH Sass Jordan
Oct. 30, 1994 Arie Crown Theater. Chicago, IL Sass Jordan
Nov. 1, 1994 A.J. Palumbo Auditorium. Pittsburgh, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 2, 1994 Fox Theater. Detroit ,MI Sass Jordan
Nov. 5, 1994 Stabler Arena. Lehigh Campus. Bethleham, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 7, 1994 DAR Constitution Hall. D.C. Sass Jordan
Nov. 10, 1994 A.J. Palumbo Center. Pittsburgh, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 14, 1994 Albany, NY Sass Jordan
Nov. 15, 1994 Massey Hall, Toronto, ONT Sass Jordan
Nov. 16, 1994 Tower Theater, Philadelphia Upper Darby, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 17, 1994 Central Maine Civic Center. Lewiston, ME Sass Jordan
Nov. 18, 1994 Orpheum Theater. Boston, Ma Sass Jordan
Nov. 20, 1994 Hershey Park Arena. Hershey, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 22, 1994 Fox Theater. Atlanta, GA Sass Jordan
Nov. 23, 1994 Jacksonville, FL Sass Jordan
Nov. 24, 1994 Bob Carr Performing Arts Center. Orlando, FL Sass Jordan
Nov. 25, 1994 Sunrise Musical Theater. Sunrise, FL Sass Jordan
Nov. 27, 1994 Mahaffey Theater. St. Petersburg, FL Sass Jordan
Dec. 2, 1994 Municipal Auditorium. San Antonio, TX Sass Jordan
Dec. 3, 1994 Will Rogers Memorial. Forth Worth, TX Sass Jordan
Dec. 7, 1994 Aladdin Theater, Las Vegas, NV Sass Jordan
Dec. 9, 1994 Fort Worth, TX Sass Jordan
Dec. 10, 1994 Warner's Theater. Fresno, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 12, 1994 Speckles Theater .San Diego, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 16, 1994 Pantages Theater. Los Angeles, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 17, 1994 Pantages Theater . Los Angeles, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 18, 1994 Pantages Theater . Los Angeles, CA Sass Jordan
Jan. 11, 1995 Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall Portland, OR Sass Jordan
Jan. 13, 1995 Seattle, Washington
Jan. 15, 1995 Abravanel Hall. Salt Lake City, Utah Sass Jordan
Jan. 19, 1995 Memorial Auditorium.. Burlington, IW Sass Jordan
Jan. 20, 1995 Memorial Hall . Kansas City, Kansas Sass Jordan
Jan. 22, 1995 Veterans Memorial. Columbus, OH Sass Jordan
Jan. 25, 1995 Wings Stadium. Kalamazoo, MI Sass Jordan
Jan. 27, 1995 Shea's Performing Arts Center. Buffalo NY Sass Jordan
Jan. 28, 1995 Rochester Auditorium Center, Rochester, NY Sass Jordan
Feb. 2, 1995 Washington, DC Sass Jordan
Feb. 13, 1995 State Theater, New Brunswick, NJ.
Mar. 10, 1995 Abraham Chavez Theater. El Paso, TX Bone Pony
Mar. 11, 1995 Mesa Amphitheater. Mesa, AZ
Mar. 13, 1995 Bren Events Center. University of California. Irvine, CA Bone Pony
Mar. 14, 1995 Santa Barbara, CA Bone Pony
Mar. 16, 1995 San Francisco, CA
Mar. 18, 1995 Warnors Theater. Fresno, CA
Mar.1 22, 1995 San Juan, Puerto Rico

He didn't play the nov 25th date at sunrise, it was cancelled.

I believe alot of these dates were cancelled, weren't they?

I think everything after the november 25th show was cancelled (I know the sunrise was cancelled because i went to visit a friend who had tickets and we drove an hour to this show) . When we arrived the place was sealed up like a foreclosure

I know the 12/7/1994 date in Vegas was played as I was there. It was awesome.

[Liquid_Drummer]

Man. Why is Arnel singing so far behind the beat so often in the cinci boot.?? WTF ?? ALSO. When he stops singing I hear another vocal almost supporting him (maybe Deen low in the mix singing the same parts as Arnel at times). This raw mix is revealing and not flattering at all for Arnel. His voice sounds like it is thickening just like Perrys voice did and probably from road attrition.. Arnel was close to a Perry late 82-83 type sound with a bit less rasp when he joined. Now he is a half step down and sounding like he is having to force his higher notes out like Perry had to start doing around 86 and again, Arnel is one half step down. Not good.. He may not last as long as Augeri. He is just singing too damn forcefully. I like what he does at times but it is pedal to the metal for him too much and I just hear a lack of dynamic that I can not ignore. I am not trying to hold him to Perry. I am only voicing what I hear to be bad technique that is going to have him in a bad mess. It could just be his voice can only hit these required notes by using the amount of force he is using. He may have no choice as his anatomy may only allow that approach.

Why didnt they just find somone that was 25 if they wanted it to last ? I am happy for Arnels wealth considering where he came from and what he is doing with it but this aint gonna last much longer. Someone taking on the catalog starting at what 38 ? Obviously the lounge act he had before had enough songs in it that gave him good rest or he is going through the same vocal change most males have between 35 and 45 that turns A LOT of tenors in to baritones.. They are gonna run him till the tread is gone. At least he is helping out a lot of people with his wealth.

[annie89509]

Summertime in The United States should be 50 shows, at the most, in the original key. Period. That's 50 shows in about 13 weeks. For instance, you perform on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. Why is that so hard to figure out?

Even Perry complained about the tour routing back in the day.... wanting to protect his "instrument," which was "not like a guitar." If they didn't figure it out when they were selling out stadiums, they're not going to bail now -- right SJ?

I'd give Perry the benefit of the doubt with that statement, but he did play the following dates at age 43-44 without Journey, so I simply can't. Does it appear that he had any respect for what little voice he had left? Notice that, from November 14th-November 25th, he played 10 shows in 12 nights. Goodbye voice ... never to be heard from again after this tour. But, you're right, they should have learned from it.

Tour dates

Oct. 22, 1994 Minneapolis, MN Sass Jordan
Oct 24, 1994 St. Louis, MO Sass Jordan
Oct. 28, 1994 Taft Theater. Cincinnati, OH Sass Jordan
Oct. 29, 1994 Music Hall. Cleveland, OH Sass Jordan
Oct. 30, 1994 Arie Crown Theater. Chicago, IL Sass Jordan
Nov. 1, 1994 A.J. Palumbo Auditorium. Pittsburgh, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 2, 1994 Fox Theater. Detroit ,MI Sass Jordan
Nov. 5, 1994 Stabler Arena. Lehigh Campus. Bethleham, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 7, 1994 DAR Constitution Hall. D.C. Sass Jordan
Nov. 10, 1994 A.J. Palumbo Center. Pittsburgh, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 14, 1994 Albany, NY Sass Jordan
Nov. 15, 1994 Massey Hall, Toronto, ONT Sass Jordan
Nov. 16, 1994 Tower Theater, Philadelphia Upper Darby, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 17, 1994 Central Maine Civic Center. Lewiston, ME Sass Jordan
Nov. 18, 1994 Orpheum Theater. Boston, Ma Sass Jordan
Nov. 20, 1994 Hershey Park Arena. Hershey, PA Sass Jordan
Nov. 22, 1994 Fox Theater. Atlanta, GA Sass Jordan
Nov. 23, 1994 Jacksonville, FL Sass Jordan
Nov. 24, 1994 Bob Carr Performing Arts Center. Orlando, FL Sass Jordan
Nov. 25, 1994 Sunrise Musical Theater. Sunrise, FL Sass Jordan
Nov. 27, 1994 Mahaffey Theater. St. Petersburg, FL Sass Jordan
Dec. 2, 1994 Municipal Auditorium. San Antonio, TX Sass Jordan
Dec. 3, 1994 Will Rogers Memorial. Forth Worth, TX Sass Jordan
Dec. 7, 1994 Aladdin Theater, Las Vegas, NV Sass Jordan
Dec. 9, 1994 Fort Worth, TX Sass Jordan
Dec. 10, 1994 Warner's Theater. Fresno, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 12, 1994 Speckles Theater .San Diego, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 16, 1994 Pantages Theater. Los Angeles, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 17, 1994 Pantages Theater . Los Angeles, CA Sass Jordan
Dec. 18, 1994 Pantages Theater . Los Angeles, CA Sass Jordan
Jan. 11, 1995 Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall Portland, OR Sass Jordan
Jan. 13, 1995 Seattle, Washington
Jan. 15, 1995 Abravanel Hall. Salt Lake City, Utah Sass Jordan
Jan. 19, 1995 Memorial Auditorium.. Burlington, IW Sass Jordan
Jan. 20, 1995 Memorial Hall . Kansas City, Kansas Sass Jordan
Jan. 22, 1995 Veterans Memorial. Columbus, OH Sass Jordan
Jan. 25, 1995 Wings Stadium. Kalamazoo, MI Sass Jordan
Jan. 27, 1995 Shea's Performing Arts Center. Buffalo NY Sass Jordan
Jan. 28, 1995 Rochester Auditorium Center, Rochester, NY Sass Jordan
Feb. 2, 1995 Washington, DC Sass Jordan
Feb. 13, 1995 State Theater, New Brunswick, NJ.
Mar. 10, 1995 Abraham Chavez Theater. El Paso, TX Bone Pony
Mar. 11, 1995 Mesa Amphitheater. Mesa, AZ
Mar. 13, 1995 Bren Events Center. University of California. Irvine, CA Bone Pony
Mar. 14, 1995 Santa Barbara, CA Bone Pony
Mar. 16, 1995 San Francisco, CA
Mar. 18, 1995 Warnors Theater. Fresno, CA
Mar.1 22, 1995 San Juan, Puerto Rico

He didn't play the nov 25th date at sunrise, it was cancelled.

I believe alot of these dates were cancelled, weren't they?

I think everything after the november 25th show was cancelled (I know the sunrise was cancelled because i went to visit a friend who had tickets and we drove an hour to this show) . When we arrived the place was sealed up like a foreclosure

I know the 12/7/1994 date in Vegas was played as I was there. It was awesome.

As were Jan 22 (his b-day) in Columbus…San Fran…Irvine....P.R…I have the boots.
Yes, he canceled some dates, but most of the above was played.
It was after the P.R. show, I believe, when he cut the tour short due to bronchitis.

[Don]

Man. Why is Arnel singing so far behind the beat so often in the cinci boot.?? WTF ?? ALSO. When he stops singing I hear another vocal almost supporting him (maybe Deen low in the mix singing the same parts as Arnel at times). This raw mix is revealing and not flattering at all for Arnel. His voice sounds like it is thickening just like Perrys voice did and probably from road attrition.. Arnel was close to a Perry late 82-83 type sound with a bit less rasp when he joined. Now he is a half step down and sounding like he is having to force his higher notes out like Perry had to start doing around 86 and again, Arnel is one half step down. Not good.. He may not last as long as Augeri. He is just singing too damn forcefully. I like what he does at times but it is pedal to the metal for him too much and I just hear a lack of dynamic that I can not ignore. I am not trying to hold him to Perry. I am only voicing what I hear to be bad technique that is going to have him in a bad mess. It could just be his voice can only hit these required notes by using the amount of force he is using. He may have no choice as his anatomy may only allow that approach.

Why didnt they just find somone that was 25 if they wanted it to last ? I am happy for Arnels wealth considering where he came from and what he is doing with it but this aint gonna last much longer. Someone taking on the catalog starting at what 38 ? Obviously the lounge act he had before had enough songs in it that gave him good rest or he is going through the same vocal change most males have between 35 and 45 that turns A LOT of tenors in to baritones.. They are gonna run him till the tread is gone. At least he is helping out a lot of people with his wealth.

They'll take a four month break and be right back out on the road again in spring 2012.

They might need to load up on the BGV and help the guy out.

[ebake02]

Man. Why is Arnel singing so far behind the beat so often in the cinci boot.?? WTF ?? ALSO. When he stops singing I hear another vocal almost supporting him (maybe Deen low in the mix singing the same parts as Arnel at times). This raw mix is revealing and not flattering at all for Arnel. His voice sounds like it is thickening just like Perrys voice did and probably from road attrition.. Arnel was close to a Perry late 82-83 type sound with a bit less rasp when he joined. Now he is a half step down and sounding like he is having to force his higher notes out like Perry had to start doing around 86 and again, Arnel is one half step down. Not good.. He may not last as long as Augeri. He is just singing too damn forcefully. I like what he does at times but it is pedal to the metal for him too much and I just hear a lack of dynamic that I can not ignore. I am not trying to hold him to Perry. I am only voicing what I hear to be bad technique that is going to have him in a bad mess. It could just be his voice can only hit these required notes by using the amount of force he is using. He may have no choice as his anatomy may only allow that approach.

Why didnt they just find somone that was 25 if they wanted it to last ? I am happy for Arnels wealth considering where he came from and what he is doing with it but this aint gonna last much longer. Someone taking on the catalog starting at what 38 ? Obviously the lounge act he had before had enough songs in it that gave him good rest or he is going through the same vocal change most males have between 35 and 45 that turns A LOT of tenors in to baritones.. They are gonna run him till the tread is gone. At least he is helping out a lot of people with his wealth.

I think the lounge act did more harm than good. He jumped from singing an hour at the most a few times a week to singing 2+ hours 5-6 times a week literally overnight, singing is bars didn't really give him the training he needed. He is pedal to the metal quite a bit but you have to be that way to pull off Journey's catalog with any kind of success.