What happened on the 1994 Steve Perry tour?

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Re: What happened on the 1994 Steve Perry tour?

Postby Gideon » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:52 pm

WykkedSensation wrote:His voice was pretty good on this tour no matter what a lot of people say.


Live vs. recording, I'd be inclined to agree. As with Augeri, Soto, Arnel, etc., the flaws and shortcomings that seem so obvious on recording aren't as obvious when one's actually there. Arnel sounded damn near identical to studio!Perry when I saw him in Nashville '08; he floored my father and stepmother (the latter who had even saw Journey in '81). Soto ('06) and Augeri ('05) sounded excellent as well, despite the latter's serious vocal degradation.

WyykedSensation wrote:Most of the boots are pretty darned good, especially Atlanta, New Jersey, Philly and Kansas City. The Frontiers (voice changing tour) tour was some 11 years previously and that was a very different Perry.
Imo Perry was a lot better on the FTLOSM tour in 94 than he was in 86 (ROR tour), which was without a doubt the worst Journey (Perry era) tour.
No one, and i say again No one knows if his voice is destroyed, as no one (certainly on this board) has heard it apart from the baseball shit. The last thing i heard (full vocal) from 2000/01 (demo) he sounded stunning.


That was a full 10 years ago. Anyone who thinks his voice has somehow improved is acting solely on blind faith when all evidence points to the contrary. Which is all well and good, but that's all there is.
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Re: What happened on the 1994 Steve Perry tour?

Postby kgdjpubs » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:02 pm

WykkedSensation wrote:The last thing i heard (full vocal) from 2000/01 (demo) he sounded stunning.


Which demo is this that you speak of? Is it in circulation? Curious minds want to know...
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Re: What happened on the 1994 Steve Perry tour?

Postby WykkedSensation » Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:37 pm

conversationpc wrote:
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TotoFan77 wrote:Saw some bootlegs and he sounds like he's having a hard time. Was this the tour that destroyed his voice? And was there anyway to prevent it?



His voice was pretty good on this tour no matter what a lot of people say. Most of the boots are pretty darned good, especially Atlanta, New Jersey, Philly and Kansas City. The Frontiers (voice changing tour) tour was some 11 years previously and that was a very different Perry.
Imo Perry was a lot better on the FTLOSM tour in 94 than he was in 86 (ROR tour), which was without a doubt the worst Journey (Perry era) tour.
No one, and i say again No one knows if his voice is destroyed, as no one (certainly on this board) has heard it apart from the baseball shit. The last thing i heard (full vocal) from 2000/01 (demo) he sounded stunning.


That's what I was going to say. I have a number of boots from that tour and like most of them. He obviously didn't have the range but definitely more control over what he was doing.



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Re: What happened on the 1994 Steve Perry tour?

Postby WykkedSensation » Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:38 pm

kgdjpubs wrote:
WykkedSensation wrote:The last thing i heard (full vocal) from 2000/01 (demo) he sounded stunning.


Which demo is this that you speak of? Is it in circulation? Curious minds want to know...



NOT in circulation at all. I bet curious minds want to know.
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Re: What happened on the 1994 Steve Perry tour?

Postby WykkedSensation » Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:43 pm

brywool wrote:
WykkedSensation wrote:
TotoFan77 wrote:Saw some bootlegs and he sounds like he's having a hard time. Was this the tour that destroyed his voice? And was there anyway to prevent it?



His voice was pretty good on this tour no matter what a lot of people say. Most of the boots are pretty darned good, especially Atlanta, New Jersey, Philly and Kansas City. The Frontiers (voice changing tour) tour was some 11 years previously and that was a very different Perry.
Imo Perry was a lot better on the FTLOSM tour in 94 than he was in 86 (ROR tour), which was without a doubt the worst Journey (Perry era) tour.
No one, and i say again No one knows if his voice is destroyed, as no one (certainly on this board) has heard it apart from the baseball shit. The last thing i heard (full vocal) from 2000/01 (demo) he sounded stunning.



On the 94/95 tour things were tuned WAY down. Not just a half step. In some cases it was more than that. He still sang his butt off, but it was in much lower keys and he had issues even though the keys were lowered. Nobody said his voice was destroyed, did they? His voice was damaged during his touring years. I think Herbie has said there's nothing left there and TBF seemed to indicate that his voice had gotten worse than the FLOTSM stuff. AND if you listened to him SPEAK on Behind the Music- oh my god. There's something wrong there AT THAT TIME.



Quote....Totofan77...''Was this the tour that destroyed his voice?''

Quote....Brywool...''Nobody said his voice was destroyed, did they?''



I Was quoting what the original poster stated.
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Postby RSParker » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:44 pm

I saw him in Memphis , and he was perfect. Everyone has bad night, the man sang better than any rock singer in the world for a long time. If he doesn't want to sing, except " take me out to the ball game"' he's earned it.
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Postby escapefan » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:37 am

Maybe it is a combination of physical and psychological. A lot of vocal sites stress it can be as much psychological as physical. Lord knows ROR he had enough losses in his life to create some stress.
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Postby BobbyinTN » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:13 am

For me, EVOLUTION, INFINITY and FRONTIERS are the best Perry ever sounded. I didn't care for the huskier sound and to hear him soar on notes that not many male singers could hit during those early albums was perfection.
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