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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:11 am

yulog wrote:Sounds like your trying to put down Generations to elevate Eclipse.


No need. There's not a bad track to be found on Eclipse. Can't say the same for Generations, where the clunkers outweigh the classics. Anyone who says that Eclipse is the weakest Journey effort ever (worse than ROR? Worse than Generations? Worse than the jam band pre-Perry era? ) is not serious imo. :roll:
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Postby Saint John » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:37 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:All that Revelation promo did not coincide with Revelation's release. The CBS show did, but the other programs/coverage (Ellen,Oprah, etc) happened later.


Exactly. Which is why the Revelation was able to hang around and stay strong on the charts while Eclipse has faded. Well, that and the fact that sales in general have plummeted.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:As I said, the top ten debut was based on the strength of DSB and little else.


Arnel's story and how they found him gained tons of traction and exposure for the band, and while DSB certainly brought the band a lot of new found popularity, its re-record on Revelation wasn't worth $11.88 ... so I'm going to assume that the overwhelming majority of people just downloaded it (the original version), just like the iTunes stats suggest.


The_Noble_Cause wrote: Not sure how any current lineup fan can deny this.


Current, past or future ... I'm failing to see the relevance.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Eclipse debuted decently, but ensuing promo (CBS Sunday Morning, NBC Today Show) did not help it all. Why? No Perry hits = nobody cares.


And exactly how many new songs were played on those shows? This just isn't Revelation, with its infinite promo, proper packaging and price, strong AC rotation and more favorably environment of several years ago. Everyone knew Revelation was out and it was a great package. Can you say the same about Eclipse? If you can you're just lying to yourself.
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Postby yulog » Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:49 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
yulog wrote:Sounds like your trying to put down Generations to elevate Eclipse.


No need. There's not a bad track to be found on Eclipse. Image Can't say the same for Generations, where the clunkers outweigh the classics. Anyone who says that Eclipse is the weakest Journey effort ever (worse than ROR? Worse than Generations? Worse than the jam band pre-Perry era? ) is not serious imo. :roll:


Anyone who doesn't think there's a bad track to be found on Eclipse needs to take their fan boy cape off, come down off of that ledge and get a healthy dose of reality.....imo

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