Why it's not working with Arnel

[ebake02]

1. Very little stage presence
2. The accent problems
3. The harshness of the vocals
4. The "reading from a monitor" feeling when singing the songs
5. No connection whatsoever with the rest of the band onstage
6. No connection between the others; Ross making faces and no one in the band taking notice etc

It's evident JRNY's just a way to pay the bills nowadays, not a real band like they were with Perry, Augeri and JSS.

20,000 people a show isn't working? His stage presence at the Darien Lake show was unbelievable. He had the crowd wrapped around his finger.

[mikemarrs]

I haven't been to a concert in literally fifteen years since the KISS reunion.There are two live shows i'd go see if they came to pass and they are....


A Guns N Roses reunion with the Appetite or Illusions era lineup.As long as Axl,Slash,Izzy and Duff are there i don't care if its Matt or Steven on drums.


A Journey reunion either with the Infinity-Departure era or the Escape/Frontiers era of the band.Pretty much would go see 'em if Perry was back in but i'd like to see Smitty on drums too.

[Monker]

1. Very little stage presence

when I saw them a few years ago, all he did was cater to the first few rows. Maybe that's changed, but I doubt it.

2. The accent problems

Again, when I saw them, this was a major problem....not in the singing, but communicating with the audience. You couldn't understand a damn word he was saying. It was pointless.

3. The harshness of the vocals

I disagree here...the guy can sing.

4. The "reading from a monitor" feeling when singing the songs

It just felt routine...hard to describe. Almost like it was on tape

I'm just kidding...I really don't hear any issues with how he sings most of the songs...he has his high points and lows, but I don't think he is any worse, or better, then any other lead singer Journey has ever had.

5. No connection whatsoever with the rest of the band onstage

I would agree with that...but he seems to focus on the first few rows and interacts with them...ignore the band, and ignore the audience from 20rows back or more. That is where his focus is. The rest of the band, well, I think their focus is the $'s anyway.

6. No connection between the others; Ross making faces and no one in the band taking notice etc

I agree.

It's evident JRNY's just a way to pay the bills nowadays, not a real band like they were with Perry, Augeri and JSS.

It's been that way for a long time...even back to the last couple of the Augeri years.

[Monker]

1. Very little stage presence
2. The accent problems
3. The harshness of the vocals
4. The "reading from a monitor" feeling when singing the songs
5. No connection whatsoever with the rest of the band onstage
6. No connection between the others; Ross making faces and no one in the band taking notice etc

It's evident JRNY's just a way to pay the bills nowadays, not a real band like they were with Perry, Augeri and JSS.

This thread was done as a joke to envoke argumentative conversation, right?

Has to be. Nobody in their right mind is so much in denial of the current success of the band, which is the best since the ROR tour.

The problem is the current success has little to do with Arnel, and everything to do with the 1980's band being nostalgically popular right now. Anybody could be singing for Journey and they would still be popular.

[steveo777]

1. Very little stage presence
2. The accent problems
3. The harshness of the vocals
4. The "reading from a monitor" feeling when singing the songs
5. No connection whatsoever with the rest of the band onstage
6. No connection between the others; Ross making faces and no one in the band taking notice etc

It's evident JRNY's just a way to pay the bills nowadays, not a real band like they were with Perry, Augeri and JSS.

This thread was done as a joke to envoke argumentative conversation, right?

Has to be. Nobody in their right mind is so much in denial of the current success of the band, which is the best since the ROR tour.

The problem is the current success has little to do with Arnel, and everything to do with the 1980's band being nostalgically popular right now. Anybody could be singing for Journey and they would still be popular.

There is a debatable subject. I'll leave others to this task, but Arnel brings something nobody could bring since Perry, in my opinion. If not him, who else? Before you answer that, with choices, please remember what this catalog does to vocal chords and measure your player up to determine if they could handle it, on the typical Journey tour.

[Andrew]

1. Very little stage presence
2. The accent problems
3. The harshness of the vocals
4. The "reading from a monitor" feeling when singing the songs
5. No connection whatsoever with the rest of the band onstage
6. No connection between the others; Ross making faces and no one in the band taking notice etc

It's evident JRNY's just a way to pay the bills nowadays, not a real band like they were with Perry, Augeri and JSS.

This thread was done as a joke to envoke argumentative conversation, right?

Has to be. Nobody in their right mind is so much in denial of the current success of the band, which is the best since the ROR tour.

The problem is the current success has little to do with Arnel, and everything to do with the 1980's band being nostalgically popular right now. Anybody could be singing for Journey and they would still be popular.

No, I think that;'s only half the story. The Arnel story propelled the success of Revelation without question. That and some well palced DSB plugs...