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Postby annie89509 » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:08 pm

Re Madison's video and performance...Don made a very valid critique. She does have a very pleasant voice, well suited for country. But she is still relatively inexperienced. Age is on her side to develop into a greater talent. Perhaps, more exposure...get on the various talent shows...and let people see/hear what she's got.
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:07 pm

Something about her reminds me of Joss Stone, when she matures a bit. This girl has something.
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Postby artist4perry » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:18 pm

slucero wrote:Gid... shut the fuck up. No one is talking to you.


A4P.. sorry I don't smoke... my butt is fine.. just have issue when people are wishy-washy with their posts... if you can't see how what you posted considered nothing of what Don posted.. and was outright rude.. then you are beyond help.



Slucero, you don't know me and your assuming a great deal. I don't know Don that well, especially well enough to be angry at him. You dissected my post and twisted my meanings to sound evil. When I say the words "Maybe I am wrong", I mean....I might be out in left field, I might be getting this whole thing wrong...I might be misunderstanding you completely.

Your acting paranoid. You don't know me very well if you think I am "out to get Don". I am a peaceful person and I don't want to start anything with anyone. Don is fine in my book.

Do you have a man crush on him or something? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink: :wink:
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Postby artist4perry » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:45 pm

Gid... shut the fuck up. No one is talking to you.


By the way, you were rude to Giddy...you owe him an apology. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted:

For the record...that was sarcastic. :wink: :P
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Postby Gideon » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:29 am

slucero wrote:Gid... shut the fuck up. No one is talking to you.


:lol:

Someone's getting sensitive in his old age... artist4perry wasn't talking to you either... unless you happen to be one of Don's alter egos... but that didn't stop you from butting in and giving her your unsolicited two cents... this is a public message board... and I can speak to whomever I please... about whatever I please... and since you addressed me... this means you're either overwhelmingly stupid... or you consider yourself "no one"... you pick...

Better raise your game...

Ellipses are cool...
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:32 am

annie89509 wrote:Re Madison's video and performance...Don made a very valid critique. She does have a very pleasant voice, well suited for country. But she is still relatively inexperienced. Age is on her side to develop into a greater talent. Perhaps, more exposure...get on the various talent shows...and let people see/hear what she's got.


I agree ...furthermore, when G~boy/Don speaks, I listen, whether I agree w/him or not ...he's just good like that!!

We had this conversation about Madison's vid some time ago (I believe it's the same vid), some of us just
don't care for it ...I think she has time on her side and plenty of promise, noone said she oughta give it up.

G~boy~ looks like you're gonna have to get more Paula Abgooey to please some folks, but
please don't!! :wink:
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Postby Don » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:40 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
annie89509 wrote:Re Madison's video and performance...Don made a very valid critique. She does have a very pleasant voice, well suited for country. But she is still relatively inexperienced. Age is on her side to develop into a greater talent. Perhaps, more exposure...get on the various talent shows...and let people see/hear what she's got.


I agree ...furthermore, when G~boy/Don speaks, I listen, whether I agree w/him or not ...he's just good like that!!

We had this conversation about Madison's vid some time ago (I believe it's the same vid), some of us just
don't care for it ...I think she has time on her side and plenty of promise, noone said she oughta give it up.

G~boy~ looks like you're gonna have to get more Paula Abgooey to please some folks, but
please don't!! :wink:


If I see the talent there, I'll say so.
Madison just isn't making the grade (yet). When we first saw her perform, I put it down to inexperience and shyness. It's been well over a year now and the improvements I thought might happen just don't seem to be there.
Strange to see her first professional video performance being a cover when we all know how talented her father is as a songwriter.

On the flipside, very impressed with Miles Schon since I first became aware of him and have stated as such. He's a natural performer from what I've seen on the net and live in person.
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Postby Onestepper » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:10 am

I could care less who's daughter she is. They need to get her some help with her movements, and her overall presentation. Her voice is good, and probably will get stronger. But her stage presence is lacking. She's 18. If she had a voice like Adele, stage presence isn't as important. She doesn't. So it matters.

I wish her well.
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Postby Gideon » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:15 am

Honestly, I'm not sure to what extent we can say her voice is 'good'. Can't protools and autotune compensate for a lackluster voice?
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:18 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
annie89509 wrote:Re Madison's video and performance...Don made a very valid critique. She does have a very pleasant voice, well suited for country. But she is still relatively inexperienced. Age is on her side to develop into a greater talent. Perhaps, more exposure...get on the various talent shows...and let people see/hear what she's got.


I agree ...furthermore, when G~boy/Don speaks, I listen, whether I agree w/him or not ...he's just good like that!!

We had this conversation about Madison's vid some time ago (I believe it's the same vid), some of us just
don't care for it ...I think she has time on her side and plenty of promise, noone said she oughta give it up.

G~boy~ looks like you're gonna have to get more Paula Abgooey to please some folks, but
please don't!! :wink:


Don wrote:If I see the talent there, I'll say so.

I know this, that's why I respect your opinion!!

Don wrote:Madison just isn't making the grade (yet). When we first saw her perform, I put it down to inexperience and shyness. It's been well over a year now and the improvements I thought might happen just don't seem to be there.
Strange to see her first professional video performance being a cover when we all know how talented her father is as a songwriter.

OH ...I thought this might be the same vid we discussed a year ago.

Don wrote:[On the flipside, very impressed with Miles Schon since I first became aware of him and have stated as such. He's a natural performer from what I've seen on the net and live in person.

I've only seen vids, but I am too!!
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:20 am

Onestepper wrote:I could care less who's daughter she is. They need to get her some help with her movements, and her overall presentation. Her voice is good, and probably will get stronger. But her stage presence is lacking. She's 18. If she had a voice like Adele, stage presence isn't as important. She doesn't. So it matters.

I wish her well.
NICE!! :wink:
Couldn't have said it better myself!!
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Postby Don » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:22 am

Gideon wrote:Honestly, I'm not sure to what extent we can say her voice is 'good'. Can't protools and autotune compensate for a lackluster voice?


I think "pleasant" is a fair description. Good enough for a night at the Prancing Pony but beyond that?
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Postby SF-Dano » Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:39 pm

Just curious how the cover thing works on a produced video like this.

Don you probably know. Did she have to get permission from The Black Crowes/Robinson boys? Is the copywright out of date so anyone can do it? Just curious as to how that works in the music biz.

It would be interesting to hear Chris Robinson's critique of this.
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Postby Don » Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:50 pm

SF-Dano wrote:Just curious how the cover thing works on a produced video like this works.

Don you probably know. Did she have to get permission from The Black Crowes/Robinson boys? Is the copywright out of date so anyone can do it? Just curious as to how that works in the music biz.

It would be interesting to hear Chris Robinson's critique of this.


Under Section 115A of the Copyright Act, a music publisher must permit you to record any song that has previously been recorded and released to the public if you file a compulsory license. Now,, if the songwriters never recorded their song, or if it was played on TV or in a movie but never released on a sound recording or sold as an authorized download, you cannot use the compulsory license unless granted permission from ALL the writers and publishers.
You also cannot use the compulsory license if you change the basic melody or fundamental character of the song. For example, a singer cannot alter a song’s lyrics without permission. Also, you can not sync the song to a video without permission.
Under all of the circumstances, you do have to pay royalties to the writers and publishers of the song you cover regardless.
Copyright lasts as long as the author's life plus an additional 70 years after the author's death.
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Postby SF-Dano » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:56 pm

Don wrote:
SF-Dano wrote:Just curious how the cover thing works on a produced video like this works.

Don you probably know. Did she have to get permission from The Black Crowes/Robinson boys? Is the copywright out of date so anyone can do it? Just curious as to how that works in the music biz.

It would be interesting to hear Chris Robinson's critique of this.


Under Section 115A of the Copyright Act, a music publisher must permit you to record any song that has previously been recorded and released to the public if you file a compulsory license. Now,, if the songwriters never recorded their song, or if it was played on TV or in a movie but never released on a sound recording or sold as an authorized download, you cannot use the compulsory license unless granted permission from ALL the writers and publishers.
You also cannot use the compulsory license if you change the basic melody or fundamental character of the song. For example, a singer cannot alter a song’s lyrics without permission. Also, you can not sync the song to a video without permission.
Under all of the circumstances, you do have to pay royalties to the writers and publishers of the song you cover regardless.
Copyright lasts as long as the author's life plus an additional 70 years after the author's death.

Thank you sir. :)
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Postby artist4perry » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:05 pm

Don wrote:
SF-Dano wrote:Just curious how the cover thing works on a produced video like this works.

Don you probably know. Did she have to get permission from The Black Crowes/Robinson boys? Is the copywright out of date so anyone can do it? Just curious as to how that works in the music biz.

It would be interesting to hear Chris Robinson's critique of this.


Under Section 115A of the Copyright Act, a music publisher must permit you to record any song that has previously been recorded and released to the public if you file a compulsory license. Now,, if the songwriters never recorded their song, or if it was played on TV or in a movie but never released on a sound recording or sold as an authorized download, you cannot use the compulsory license unless granted permission from ALL the writers and publishers.
You also cannot use the compulsory license if you change the basic melody or fundamental character of the song. For example, a singer cannot alter a song’s lyrics without permission. Also, you can not sync the song to a video without permission.
Under all of the circumstances, you do have to pay royalties to the writers and publishers of the song you cover regardless.
Copyright lasts as long as the author's life plus an additional 70 years after the author's death.


Don, I don't know you very well, and I was curious what you did in the music business? Lawyer? Promoter? Studio Engineer? Seems a lot of people value your opinion in the music realm. So just wondering. :D
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Postby Jana » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:04 am

When you put her up against someone like this who was two years younger at the time, you see the glaring difference in talent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oglueOxXTSQ
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Postby Tito » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:25 am

She's a good person too...just like Journey.
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Postby parfait » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:36 am

Meh... She'd get it.
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