Arnel Pineda to stay with Journey ‘as long as they want me’

[steveo777]

And, JSS was what, never "in" the band??? Pineda is a puppet... a puppet who can sing, but a puppet non the less ... what a freakin' joke this "band" has become...

If being a puppet can bring me the story and money Arnel has received in life, which where he is probably set for life compared to all of us here, then I'd be a puppet for somebody any day of the week. Arnel got the goods. He's been with the band for 5 years now (hard to believe, time fly's.) Journey got the goods. They are still making albums. They are still honoring their past. They are still in the storylines of today's music. It's all good. Journey is far from a joke. Journey is a business but yet, still one of the most popular rock bands out there that happens to remain nostalgia. They got things going for every fan to love. Past & Present.

Have such respect for Perry, a true artist so glad you are not speaking of him. Journey's classic music is "still in the storylines of today's music" with some popular Greatest Hits. Hopefully, Pineda is being frugal about the future. Take a look at the Eclipse's sales, think it's gone as far as the present.

Just to clarify, Pineda has said more than once that (unlike the norm) he gets paid up front for everything (tours, album releases and whatever). Whether Eclipse sells a hundred or a million copies makes no difference on that front.

Why do you suppose he gets paid up front, Don? I could understand them giving him a draw against future earnings, once the band decided he was a keeper, so he could shore up his finances and make sure his family was secure while he was on tour. Beyond that, what sense would it make? Also, what I wonder is if Arnel has to pay royalties to Bert De Leon in exchange for letting the band use Arnel's services, since he is apparently under some contractual obligation with his manager in the Philippines. I wonder if that contract is still in effect, or expired?

[Don]

And, JSS was what, never "in" the band??? Pineda is a puppet... a puppet who can sing, but a puppet non the less ... what a freakin' joke this "band" has become...

If being a puppet can bring me the story and money Arnel has received in life, which where he is probably set for life compared to all of us here, then I'd be a puppet for somebody any day of the week. Arnel got the goods. He's been with the band for 5 years now (hard to believe, time fly's.) Journey got the goods. They are still making albums. They are still honoring their past. They are still in the storylines of today's music. It's all good. Journey is far from a joke. Journey is a business but yet, still one of the most popular rock bands out there that happens to remain nostalgia. They got things going for every fan to love. Past & Present.

Have such respect for Perry, a true artist so glad you are not speaking of him. Journey's classic music is "still in the storylines of today's music" with some popular Greatest Hits. Hopefully, Pineda is being frugal about the future. Take a look at the Eclipse's sales, think it's gone as far as the present.

Just to clarify, Pineda has said more than once that (unlike the norm) he gets paid up front for everything (tours, album releases and whatever). Whether Eclipse sells a hundred or a million copies makes no difference on that front.

Why do you suppose he gets paid up front, Don? I could understand them giving him a draw against future earnings, once the band decided he was a keeper, so he could shore up his finances and make sure his family was secure while he was on tour. Beyond that, what sense would it make? Also, what I wonder is if Arnel has to pay royalties to Bert De Leon in exchange for letting the band use Arnel's services, since he is apparently under some contractual obligation with his manager in the Philippines. I wonder if that contract is still in effect, or expired?

Maybe that is how they do it in the Philippines and since Arnel has a Filipino manager he feels better having a fixed number rather than what the band might make in a year. As Arnel doesn't have the luxury of additional income generated from Sony's catalog or licensing agreements, maybe De Leon feels it's the safest bet.

When Arnel hurt himself last year, he could have just said screw the rest of tour under those terms, his money is already in the bank.

Since Pineda repeated it again last year, I can only assume that nothing his changed on that front even after Neal made the big stink about Arnel now being a full fledged member of the band a few years ago.
Like I said, it could just be a protective measure in case his voice goes out or he injures himself, I don't know.

[steveo777]

And, JSS was what, never "in" the band??? Pineda is a puppet... a puppet who can sing, but a puppet non the less ... what a freakin' joke this "band" has become...

If being a puppet can bring me the story and money Arnel has received in life, which where he is probably set for life compared to all of us here, then I'd be a puppet for somebody any day of the week. Arnel got the goods. He's been with the band for 5 years now (hard to believe, time fly's.) Journey got the goods. They are still making albums. They are still honoring their past. They are still in the storylines of today's music. It's all good. Journey is far from a joke. Journey is a business but yet, still one of the most popular rock bands out there that happens to remain nostalgia. They got things going for every fan to love. Past & Present.

Have such respect for Perry, a true artist so glad you are not speaking of him. Journey's classic music is "still in the storylines of today's music" with some popular Greatest Hits. Hopefully, Pineda is being frugal about the future. Take a look at the Eclipse's sales, think it's gone as far as the present.

Just to clarify, Pineda has said more than once that (unlike the norm) he gets paid up front for everything (tours, album releases and whatever). Whether Eclipse sells a hundred or a million copies makes no difference on that front.

Why do you suppose he gets paid up front, Don? I could understand them giving him a draw against future earnings, once the band decided he was a keeper, so he could shore up his finances and make sure his family was secure while he was on tour. Beyond that, what sense would it make? Also, what I wonder is if Arnel has to pay royalties to Bert De Leon in exchange for letting the band use Arnel's services, since he is apparently under some contractual obligation with his manager in the Philippines. I wonder if that contract is still in effect, or expired?

Maybe that is how they do it in the Philippines and since Arnel has a Filipino manager he feels better having a fixed number rather than what the band might make in a year. As Arnel doesn't have the luxury of additional income generated from Sony's catalog or licensing agreements, maybe De Leon feels it's the safest bet.

When Arnel hurt himself last year, he could have just said screw the rest of tour under those terms, his money is already in the bank.

Since Pineda repeated it again last year, I can only assume that nothing his changed on that front even after Neal made the big stink about Arnel now being a full fledged member of the band a few years ago.

Well, Arnel could take the money and run, but they must trust him. Still can't help but wonder how much they really pay him. I hope that they are paying him what he's worth because he is doing a great job. I feel they value him so they are probably paying him pretty well.

[Rip Rokken]

Just to clarify, Pineda has said more than once that (unlike the norm) he gets paid up front for everything (tours, album releases and whatever). Whether Eclipse sells a hundred or a million copies makes no difference on that front.

Yes, and "Everyman's Journey" also clears up the myth that he's just a "hired gun" - Arnel is a full member of the band, and gets an equal share of touring, etc.

[AR]

Arnel will stay with them as long as he never runs into the grim reaper for Journey singers.

[ttango1]

Gotta see this flick
The words nakatakot means when he first started performing in Chile, he was scared. Its non specific but it could be of stagefright or of letting the band down or of blowing this glorious opportunity. Thanks to Chile for supporting him his 1st big show and to Vegas, including many of us, for making the concert video experience fricken AMAZING!

[Eric]

Which will be the second he can't deliver and Schon will toss him aside like yesterday's garbage. I really hope Arnel ditches THEM one day and makes it on his own.

GREAT pics Rip!

Not that I agree with how they handled the termination, but Augeri DOES have more financial security because of Schon and Cain. Just a thought..not a rationale for treating people poorly or anything like that.