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AR wrote:The performance that should prove to the Portuguese Sausage Lovers Society of fat chicks that Nostraldamus was toast over 20 years ago.
Kor'n wrote:AR wrote:The performance that should prove to the Portuguese Sausage Lovers Society of fat chicks that Nostraldamus was toast over 20 years ago.
Not in that "Society" but he sounds just fine to me. You don't have to hit every note, just put your soul and heart into it. Would have paid big money to see that if had been around then. As one would say "Faithfully was not his best technically, but the heart and soul he put into it. Steve A. and AP are great singers, but Steve P. is the Master."
AR wrote:Kor'n wrote:AR wrote:The performance that should prove to the Portuguese Sausage Lovers Society of fat chicks that Nostraldamus was toast over 20 years ago.
Not in that "Society" but he sounds just fine to me. You don't have to hit every note, just put your soul and heart into it. Would have paid big money to see that if had been around then. As one would say "Faithfully was not his best technically, but the heart and soul he put into it. Steve A. and AP are great singers, but Steve P. is the Master."
All respect to Perry, he got out at the right time.
I'm just amused by the Loons that still pine for a 60 something year old Perry to do a Journey tour now, much less back when they brought Augeri in.
AR wrote:Kor'n wrote:AR wrote:The performance that should prove to the Portuguese Sausage Lovers Society of fat chicks that Nostraldamus was toast over 20 years ago.
Not in that "Society" but he sounds just fine to me. You don't have to hit every note, just put your soul and heart into it. Would have paid big money to see that if had been around then. As one would say "Faithfully was not his best technically, but the heart and soul he put into it. Steve A. and AP are great singers, but Steve P. is the Master."
All respect to Perry, he got out at the right time.
I'm just amused by the Loons that still pine for a 60 something year old Perry to do a Journey tour now, much less back when they brought Augeri in.
Kor'n wrote: mean do a tour like these over "60" guys?
2013 Mid Year
2. 103.9 million - Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band / 31 shows
3. 87.7 million - The Rolling Stones / 18 shows
9. 58.1 million - Fleetwood Mac / 42 shows
16. 43.5 million - Paul McCarthy / 15 shows
17. 42.6 million - George Strait / 21 shows
Memorex wrote:Kor'n wrote: mean do a tour like these over "60" guys?
2013 Mid Year
2. 103.9 million - Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band / 31 shows
3. 87.7 million - The Rolling Stones / 18 shows
9. 58.1 million - Fleetwood Mac / 42 shows
16. 43.5 million - Paul McCarthy / 15 shows
17. 42.6 million - George Strait / 21 shows
Not one of them has to sing the way Perry would have to. It's a whole other class of singer.
FamilyMan wrote:Memorex wrote:Kor'n wrote: mean do a tour like these over "60" guys?
2013 Mid Year
2. 103.9 million - Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band / 31 shows
3. 87.7 million - The Rolling Stones / 18 shows
9. 58.1 million - Fleetwood Mac / 42 shows
16. 43.5 million - Paul McCarthy / 15 shows
17. 42.6 million - George Strait / 21 shows
Not one of them has to sing the way Perry would have to. It's a whole other class of singer.
I agree he doesn't belong in Perry's class, but I would argue that a typical Springsteen performance is way more grueling physically and he puts both his body and his voice through much more strain through a 3+ hour show. Furthermore, he never had the fear of the road or the stage the way Perry clearly does. These guys -- Bruce, Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney -- were/are waayyyy bigger stars than Steve Perry ever was. And if anybody had reasons to isolate themselves and withdraw from their fame, it would be them. Perry's demons were of his own making. I don't think it had anything to do with how strenuous it was to tour the Journey catalog.
Kor'n wrote:
You mean do a tour like these over "60" guys?
2013 Mid Year
2. 103.9 million - Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band / 31 shows
3. 87.7 million - The Rolling Stones / 18 shows
9. 58.1 million - Fleetwood Mac / 42 shows
16. 43.5 million - Paul McCarthy / 15 shows
17. 42.6 million - George Strait / 21 shows
JohnH wrote:"And Perry has no interest in gigs". Kind of like Mario Andretti doesn't have interest in racing in F1 next year? When your body can't do it anymore its no longer up to you and your desire .
Archetype wrote:Each artist you mentioned sings songs that nearly any drunk asshole in a karaoke bar can pull off almost perfectly. The vocal demands of Journey's music are in an entire different universe, and being 60+ is a huge factor that can't be ignored.
Kor'n wrote: Strangely now, Cain is speaking of Perry's "chronic condition" when questioned or did not believe Perry back in 1996 when he hurt himself going sloping to get ready for the tour, group bashed him as it would be now if "Eclipse" had succeeded.
Archetype wrote:Each artist you mentioned sings songs that nearly any drunk asshole in a karaoke bar can pull off almost perfectly.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Kor'n wrote: Strangely now, Cain is speaking of Perry's "chronic condition" when questioned or did not believe Perry back in 1996 when he hurt himself going sloping to get ready for the tour, group bashed him as it would be now if "Eclipse" had succeeded.
Cain's exact quote was: "He has some health issues, and he’s come forward on the internet and actually said what it was, so we don’t need to go into that. He has a real chronic condition that prevents him from being effective on the road. It’ll come and go."
Among his alleged hip problems, I think Cain is also referencing Perry's recent bout of skin cancer. But look, this is all moot. Perry cancelled the ROR tour short and cancelled the FTLOSM tour short. Cancelling the TBF tour was just par for the course. What does it matter? They had two choices - replace Perry or cease to exist.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Kor'n wrote: Strangely now, Cain is speaking of Perry's "chronic condition" when questioned or did not believe Perry back in 1996 when he hurt himself going sloping to get ready for the tour, group bashed him as it would be now if "Eclipse" had succeeded.
Cain's exact quote was: "He has some health issues, and he’s come forward on the internet and actually said what it was, so we don’t need to go into that. He has a real chronic condition that prevents him from being effective on the road. It’ll come and go."
Among his alleged hip problems, I think Cain is also referencing Perry's recent bout of skin cancer. But look, this is all moot. Perry cancelled the ROR tour short and cancelled the FTLOSM tour short. Cancelling the TBF tour was just par for the course. What does it matter? They had two choices - replace Perry or cease to exist.
Majestic wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:Kor'n wrote: Strangely now, Cain is speaking of Perry's "chronic condition" when questioned or did not believe Perry back in 1996 when he hurt himself going sloping to get ready for the tour, group bashed him as it would be now if "Eclipse" had succeeded.
Cain's exact quote was: "He has some health issues, and he’s come forward on the internet and actually said what it was, so we don’t need to go into that. He has a real chronic condition that prevents him from being effective on the road. It’ll come and go."
Among his alleged hip problems, I think Cain is also referencing Perry's recent bout of skin cancer. But look, this is all moot. Perry cancelled the ROR tour short and cancelled the FTLOSM tour short. Cancelling the TBF tour was just par for the course. What does it matter? They had two choices - replace Perry or cease to exist.
They could have kept Perry as the recording vocalist and part of the song writing team, and then if the band still wanted to go out and Perry didn't, have another singer for the live shows. Didn't Beach Boys do this? I think Glen Campbell did live shows but Wilson continued writing and recording.
FamilyMan wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:Kor'n wrote: Strangely now, Cain is speaking of Perry's "chronic condition" when questioned or did not believe Perry back in 1996 when he hurt himself going sloping to get ready for the tour, group bashed him as it would be now if "Eclipse" had succeeded.
Cain's exact quote was: "He has some health issues, and he’s come forward on the internet and actually said what it was, so we don’t need to go into that. He has a real chronic condition that prevents him from being effective on the road. It’ll come and go."
Among his alleged hip problems, I think Cain is also referencing Perry's recent bout of skin cancer. But look, this is all moot. Perry cancelled the ROR tour short and cancelled the FTLOSM tour short. Cancelling the TBF tour was just par for the course. What does it matter? They had two choices - replace Perry or cease to exist.
The hip was replaced. And how does skin cancer keep you from being effective on the road? I don't think SPs problems were medical in nature.
chron·ic
adjective \ˈkrä-nik\
medical : continuing or occurring again and again for a long time
: happening or existing frequently or most of the time
: always or often doing something specified
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