Who's The Best Front Man For Journey?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Jeremey was clearly in. MM was not in VH as far as what I can tell. Same goes for KC. Do you have any clips of KC singing with Journey that would clearify your position.

Do you have any clips of Jeremey singing with Journey that would clarify YOUR position, hypocrite? All three singers (MM, JH, and KC) were in their respective bands or as close as humanly possible.

[Aaron]

TCN,

Why are you being such a dick? Jeremey has demos of his time with Journey we've all heard and has described it in detail on the forum. I've seen the MM interview about VH but I've not heard any cuts or demos of MM singing with VH. The same goes with KC. I've not heard anything from Chalfant singing with Journey. I've heard the story only from KC and have not heard a lick of material of Kevin's time singing with Journey.

I seen Kevin as "Two FIres" at the IL state fair back in early 2000's. Journey was headlining the fair and Two Fires was a side show at the fair (Chalfant was WAY better than Journey that night). I seen The Storm show and there was no one from Journey there before, during or after the show. At the same time during Journey's show with Augeri fronting, there was no sign of Chalfant before, during or after the show. I would have thought if they had played together they would have least stopped in to see how each other was doing.

Jeremey's role has been well documented, the other two not so much. In my mind, if there's not any material available documenting where the singer worked with the band, then it's hard to say they were in the band.

Do you get at least wehre I'm coming from? Cut me a little slack and quit being such a dick. You remind me of me responding to Steveo a while ago.

I respect your opinion man.

And to answer your question, yes i do so don't call me a hypocrite:

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Jeremey was clearly in. MM was not in VH as far as what I can tell. Same goes for KC. Do you have any clips of KC singing with Journey that would clearify your position.

Do you have any clips of Jeremey singing with Journey that would clarify YOUR position, hypocrite? All three singers (MM, JH, and KC) were in their respective bands or as close as humanly possible.

[The_Noble_Cause]

TCN,
Why are you being such a dick? Jeremey has demos of his time with Journey we've all heard and has described it in detail on the forum.

And Chalfant has talked at length about his brief time in Journey and recently even recorded one of the tracks they wrote together. What is your point? If he was lying, don't you think Andrew, or Neal would've weighed in by now?

I've seen the MM interview about VH but I've not heard any cuts or demos of MM singing with VH. The same goes with KC. I've not heard anything from Chalfant singing with Journey. I've heard the story only from KC and have not heard a lick of material of Kevin's time singing with Journey.

What does it matter? You calling these guys liars?

At the same time during Journey's show with Augeri fronting, there was no sign of Chalfant before, during or after the show. I would have thought if they had played together they would have least stopped in to see how each other was doing.

Were you backstage that night? It has been documented that Kevin has visited the band several times.

Jeremey's role has been well documented, the other two not so much. In my mind, if there's not any material available documenting where the singer worked with the band, then it's hard to say they were in the band.

That's an imaginary standard in your own head. Kevin Chalfant's relationship with Herbie and the band goes back alot longer than Jeremey's. The idea that he made this all up is idiotic.

[Kor'n]

Steve Perry's been gone almost 14 years. If Neal & Jon wanted Herbie back so much, why isn't he back?

He's retired. He's addressed this in interviews.

Why are they still with Azoff? A Perry business decision.

Cuz he's one of the biggest names in the talent management business. Journey has toured steadily since re-grouping. Herbie was about more than that. He was about building a legacy and a brand. Since losing Herbie, the band has lost their guiding hand and their identity.

"Herbie was about" excessively building his bank account with "legacy" funds ("unabashed capitalist"/Herbie..BTM), and that is why he was so resentful of Steve Perry's decision to change management. "Since losing Herbie, the band has lost [that] guiding [thievery] hand and their identity" as the ones feeding that "hand." As I said before, they could easily find someone else to orchestrate loading equipment on vans and big wheelers, as Herbie did. Santana too got rid of him.

"Herbie you got to let us go." (Cain/BTM) My little "AA batteries" told me that, so maybe you should get some to guide you into getting a grip on reality, especially as far as that old useless bag of wind Herbie is concerned.

There's a quote somewhere about Columbia only wanting an "Escape/Frontiers" line up for the "Trial By Fire" reunion only it's way too late or too early for me to Sherlock Holmes it out right now.

And ultimately Sony ended up with a non-Escape/Frontiers lineup with Arrival. So what is your point exacltly?

Be careful who you're quoting never said that Bad English wrote "When I See You Smile". But it is their biggest hit.

Oh great. Another computer illiterate poster. I never mentioned Bad English or WISYSM. Be careful who YOU are quoting, buster.

But we got the same "illiterate" know it all who does not know anything.

The Greatest Hits 2 will debut in top 10 easily. (TNC 2011)

My little "AA batteries" and the BB 200 Chart told me you got that way way wrong.

Hope you can comprehend all of that. My little "AA batteries" told me to post familiarity to make life easy for the ranting confused grouch.

[Aaron]

I'm not calling anyone liars or anything else. I'd vote none of the three were really in the band based none of the three having done a documented record or live show. I love you bro but man, please try to see all sides of the fence. I don't understand why every comment is a battle with you. You are clearly a well educated person on Journey and music in general. I respect that a lot! Please just give me a little slack on the finite details that is all opinion based.

Did KC work with Journey, very likely. Did MM work with VH, based in MM's interview he clearly worked with the band. Did Jeremey work with Journey, I think that is clearly documented. Was Jeremey "a band memeber", I don't think so based on no recorded music released or live shows. My bad, I was wrong, none of the three were in the bands.

The point of the matter is brother work with me and let the opinion based details go. I like each singer we're talking about. Just cut me a little slack on the interpretations.

I'm looking forward to having a beer with you so we can talk in person ....

TCN,
Why are you being such a dick? Jeremey has demos of his time with Journey we've all heard and has described it in detail on the forum.

And Chalfant has talked at length about his brief time in Journey and recently even recorded one of the tracks they wrote together. What is your point? If he was lying, don't you think Andrew, or Neal would've weighed in by now?

I've seen the MM interview about VH but I've not heard any cuts or demos of MM singing with VH. The same goes with KC. I've not heard anything from Chalfant singing with Journey. I've heard the story only from KC and have not heard a lick of material of Kevin's time singing with Journey.

What does it matter? You calling these guys liars?

At the same time during Journey's show with Augeri fronting, there was no sign of Chalfant before, during or after the show. I would have thought if they had played together they would have least stopped in to see how each other was doing.

Were you backstage that night? It has been documented that Kevin has visited the band several times.

Jeremey's role has been well documented, the other two not so much. In my mind, if there's not any material available documenting where the singer worked with the band, then it's hard to say they were in the band.

That's an imaginary standard in your own head. Kevin Chalfant's relationship with Herbie and the band goes back alot longer than Jeremey's. The idea that he made this all up is idiotic.

[steveo777]

This poll assumed that some of them could still perform at their peak. Not likely, so let's focus on those who still can.

I understand that some have moved on, beyond Journey stuff, which is difficult as hell for an aging voice. I listen to Fleischman's latest stuff. It's different, to say the least, but he is creative and I like it.

[The_Noble_Cause]

As I said before, they could easily find someone else to orchestrate loading equipment on vans and big wheelers, as Herbie did.

Herbie was intimately involved in every minor detail from sequencing the tracks to overseeing cover art. You obviously don't know a damn thing.

"Herbie you got to let us go." (Cain/BTM) My little "AA batteries" told me that, so maybe you should get some to guide you into getting a grip on reality, especially as far as that old useless bag of wind Herbie is concerned.

Believe everything you see on TV, do you? I bet you also believe Perry's on-air claims of "thinking about touring alot." Perhaps you also believe Deen's wide-eyed exclamation that Augeri is Perry reincarnated "with a perm." Get a clue, naive gullible dipshit.

The Greatest Hits 2 will debut in top 10 easily. (TNC 2011)

My little "AA batteries" and the BB 200 Chart told me you got that way way wrong.

Yup. Guess the Perry era isn't nearly as popular as you (or I) give it credit for. Thanks for making the case AGAINST your seemingly infallible beak-nosed hero. Shmuck.

My little "AA batteries" told me to post familiarity to make life easy for the ranting confused grouch.

"Post familiarity" doesn't even make any sense. Clearly you are not from this country. So just who the fuck are YOU to set the record straight on the history of one of America's greatest rock bands? Change the AA batteries in your life-size Doc Johnson beaded butt plug, turn up "Missing You", and get outta my face already, faggot.

[Deb]

For me, if I can't have Perry or Soto, then Juan Del Castillo of DSB gets my vote. Love that this song is still being played live......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X2SQLV_HN4

LOL, man I'm picky when it comes to my music and vocalists. I traveled to California to see DSB (ok, they just happened to have a show the same weekend I was down for Mr Big's first live North American re-union concert in 15 years) and didn't even go to the actual Journey concert when they played right here in my own Canadian city.

[slucero]

I've always thought Juan was the closest to Perry... same timbre, range... very hard to tell the difference between the two.

[Final Frontiers]

I just saw Foreigner on The Tonight Show this week. So Kelly Hansen clearly has a job. I thought he did a great job, he was high energy, playing to the camera, the audience cheered for the medley.

Here he is doing a cover of "Wheel In The Sky".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMFXk5_pzd0

Separate Ways

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6FPAV-rNVU

[Kor'n]

As I said before, they could easily find someone else to orchestrate loading equipment on vans and big wheelers, as Herbie did.

Herbie was intimately involved in every minor detail from sequencing the tracks to overseeing cover art. You obviously don't know a damn thing.

Too "involved" and that's why Santana gave him his "walking papers" and then journey with "Herbie you got to let us go."

"Herbie you got to let us go." (Cain/BTM) My little "AA batteries" told me that, so maybe you should get some to guide you into getting a grip on reality, especially as far as that old useless bag of wind Herbie is concerned.

Believe everything you see on TV, do you? I bet you also believe Perry's on-air claims of "thinking about touring alot." Perhaps you also believe Deen's wide-eyed exclamation that Augeri is Perry reincarnated "with a perm." Get a clue, naive gullible dipshit.

Name calling, guess you're sensing "the agony of defeat." Keep it up if it makes you feel better, but I shall ignore and revel in the "thrill of victory."

The Greatest Hits 2 will debut in top 10 easily. (TNC 2011)

My little "AA batteries" and the BB 200 Chart told me you got that way way wrong.

Yup. Guess the Perry era isn't nearly as popular as you (or I) give it credit for. Thanks for making the case AGAINST your seemingly infallible beak-nosed hero. Shmuck.

Yep, those albums were issued with sales of about 13m+ then reissued/reissued/repackaged/repackaged.. to the tune of what, probably 20m+. "Thanks for making the case AGAINST your infallible" knowledge/lack thereof, so guess it's pretty idiotic to have thought "top ten."

My little "AA batteries" told me to post familiarity to make life easy for the ranting confused grouch.

"Post familiarity" doesn't even make any sense. Clearly you are not from this country. So just who the fuck are YOU to set the record straight on the history of one of America's greatest rock bands? Change the AA batteries in your life-size Doc Johnson beaded butt plug, turn up "Missing You", and get outta my face already, faggot.

Have to "post familarity" or you'll get all "bent out of shape" seeing things posted differently. They used to be "greatest" with Steve Perry, but now bonafide karaoke. "Change the AA batteries in your life' turn up' [Eclipse since no one else did/will and cannot] "get outta [a] face" that does not exist.

Let's see again how does you name calling affect me....Here we go.... Remember "stick and stones may break my bones, but words will NEVER harm me."

[The_Noble_Cause]

Name calling, guess you're sensing "the agony of defeat."

No ulterior agenda. Sorry. Why can't I clobber you over the head with facts, while also pointing out that you are the Baghdad Bob of idiotic Perry apologists. Too bad you're about a decade late, three lineups short, and preaching to an audience that is vastly more informed than your Street Talking-loving ass will ever be. Go coddle Perry's shriveled knob elsewhere.