Neal Schon Promises Tour Behind ‘Santana IV,’ Doesn’t Expect

[SF-Dano]

Is it really appropriate to bag on a songwriter (Cain) if they feel like they legitimately don't have anything interesting to say musically?

I get the feeling that Cain simply believes if he doesn't have anything worthwhile to add to the existing legacy, there are better ways to spend his time at this stage in his career. As opposed to Schon, who has given the impression that he's at a creative zenith in his songwriting – arguably mistaking quantity for quality at this point.

It doesn't necessarily have to do with "money" – Cain has always been a champion of the "legacy," as much as Perry, whereas Neal Schon has been vocal in the past about Journey being a constantly evolving musical energy. The problem is "evolving" implies "improving," and Cain may be at a point where he just doesn't feel that he has anything to contribute to improve upon the past.

Plus he's obviously been through some pretty immense changes in his personal life over the past 3 years, through his divorce and new love interest and now new wife and future. It could be that he just needs some time to digest all this artistically before he sits down to write about it. These are the kinds of things that can spark timeless material but only if it's approached in due time.

As usual, Jeremey, you put a fair and objective perspective on the subject at hand. I think that Jonathan needs time to settle into his new life, and then get together with someone who can help him in his creative side, like Steve used to do. I'm sure he has lots of music left in him.....I just hope he saves it for Journey.[/quote]vc

I may be in the minority, but I don't believe he has any rock left in him, therefore I hope he doesn't save it for Journey. He talks about Eclipse as if that is Heavy Metal or something. Eclipse is far from Heavy Metal. Some of the tunes are just solid hard rock, and the rest is Journey sound from different points of the band's history. Also, as mentioned earlier, Cain wrote those lyrics.

[ebake02]

I'm honestly starting to think that Cain is just padding his retirement at this point. He's just going though the motions until his nest egg gets to where he wants it.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Is it really appropriate to bag on a songwriter (Cain) if they feel like they legitimately don't have anything interesting to say musically?

I get the feeling that Cain simply believes if he doesn't have anything worthwhile to add to the existing legacy, there are better ways to spend his time at this stage in his career. As opposed to Schon, who has given the impression that he's at a creative zenith in his songwriting – arguably mistaking quantity for quality at this point.

It doesn't necessarily have to do with "money" – Cain has always been a champion of the "legacy," as much as Perry, whereas Neal Schon has been vocal in the past about Journey being a constantly evolving musical energy. The problem is "evolving" implies "improving," and Cain may be at a point where he just doesn't feel that he has anything to contribute to improve upon the past.

Plus he's obviously been through some pretty immense changes in his personal life over the past 3 years, through his divorce and new love interest and now new wife and future. It could be that he just needs some time to digest all this artistically before he sits down to write about it. These are the kinds of things that can spark timeless material but only if it's approached in due time.

After "Arrival" flopped, I vividly remember Cain in interviews saying that the band was done with full length albums. I feel there has been a creative apathy and a reluctance on Cain's part to record new Journey material for sometime.

[JourneyHard]

If Journey cannot do a full length album, why not record a new single? Then do a full media blitz with the song. Put it in a new Adam Sandler movie and then people will love it, and it will become a hit and people will come to concerts wanting to hear this new song.

However, you must make the song rock, and make it faster than Anyway You Want It. Keep the lyrics simple. You have to dumb it down for mass consumption. And come up with a really wicked lick that is repeated over and over. Keep the Journey Legacy Sound though. And this would be a hit song.

Come on, people. Do this.

[Majestic]

Is it really appropriate to bag on a songwriter (Cain) if they feel like they legitimately don't have anything interesting to say musically?

I get the feeling that Cain simply believes if he doesn't have anything worthwhile to add to the existing legacy, there are better ways to spend his time at this stage in his career. As opposed to Schon, who has given the impression that he's at a creative zenith in his songwriting – arguably mistaking quantity for quality at this point.

It doesn't necessarily have to do with "money" – Cain has always been a champion of the "legacy," as much as Perry, whereas Neal Schon has been vocal in the past about Journey being a constantly evolving musical energy. The problem is "evolving" implies "improving," and Cain may be at a point where he just doesn't feel that he has anything to contribute to improve upon the past.

Plus he's obviously been through some pretty immense changes in his personal life over the past 3 years, through his divorce and new love interest and now new wife and future. It could be that he just needs some time to digest all this artistically before he sits down to write about it. These are the kinds of things that can spark timeless material but only if it's approached in due time.

After "Arrival" flopped, I vividly remember Cain in interviews saying that the band was done with full length albums. I feel there has been a creative apathy and a reluctance on Cain's part to record new Journey material for sometime.

Cain is a business man. I actually respect that. Everybody works for a living and needs to get paid. Nobody likes to work hard for nothing. On the other hand, Cain is also an artist, and a very good one at that. I wish he would remember this too, because I would hate to see the business man in him completely control the artist in him.

[JourneyHard]

Imagine if somehow we could get Cain and Perry in a hotel for a weekend. With the great love and heartache and heartbreak they both have had recently, I bet they would write the best Journey album ever.

[Journey/Survivor]

Imagine if somehow we could get Cain and Perry in a hotel for a weekend. With the great love and heartache and heartbreak they both have had recently, I bet they would write the best Journey album ever.

Right after Journey broke up after the ROR tour, I fully expected that Perry and Cain would work together on a non-Journey album of some kind. At that time I actually expected Cain to be working with Perry more so than with Schon. I had kind of thought that Schon was more likely to work with Rolie or Jan Hammer again. So, I was slightly surprised when I heard that Cain and Schon were going to be doing the Bad English thing together at that time.

[JohnH]

I've helped Gregg with that Motif when he got it and got a nice note back when I told him I saw him in Santa Cruz in 2011. Guy is a class act for sure.

[tater1977]

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[The_Noble_Cause]

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Cool. Thanks for the update.

[tater1977]

Neal Schon Says Recording Upcoming Santana Album with Old Band Mates "Was a Very Special Moment"

July 9, 2015

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Neal Schon has been an extremely busy man lately. Last month, the guitar whiz released a two-disc solo instrumental album titled Vortex, and he recently hit the road with Journey for a summer tour of Canada. If that weren’t enough, the 61-year-old rocker tells ABC Radio that the much-talked-about Santana reunion album featuring many of the band’s early members is expected out in early 2016, and plans are in the works for a special tour in support of it.

As many rock fans know, Schon joined Santana as a teenager and played on a couple of the band’s albums before he and original singer/keyboardist Greg Rolie exited the group and formed Journey. Schon says he recorded his parts for the new Santana album — which also features Rolie, as well as founding drummer Michael Shrieve and percussionist Michael Carabello — before Journey played its Las Vegas residency in April.

“For me to be able to do a full circle in time now and go back there and rejoin those guys was a very special moment,” declares Schon, who says he approached Carlos Santana with the idea for the reunion project.

“I just wanted to complete that whole cycle…And for me, it was going back and playing with him again, because I just admire the guy,” explains Neal. “I love him, and I love the break that they gave me as a young musician. I wanted to pay respect and also have fun.”

Schon also confirmed that the album will be called Santana 4, pointing out that Carlos chose the title because, in effect, it’s a sequel to the band’s 1971 release Santana 3.

“I think it’s appropriate,” Neal maintains. “It does sound like sort of where left off there, but now.” Schon says Santana 4 likely will be released in early 2016, possibly in the spring.

Meanwhile, Schon tells ABC Radio that in conjunction with the album, Santana and Journey are trying to arrange a unique co-headlining tour.

“[It] would actually be more of a conceptual tour where it’s Journey and Santana and we intermingle from both bands,” Neal reports. He says he envisions each band celebrating different eras of its career during the shows, pointing out that Rolie could hit the stage with Journey to play some songs from the group’s early years. Schon adds that the concerts also could feature a big finale with all the musicians performing together.

While the trek isn’t yet set in stone, Neal says that at least one concert has been lined up that will take place at Madison Square Garden in New York City.

“That will be the big show that I think that everybody will come to to check out to see what the whole thing is about,” he maintains. “And then I think we’re off and running…At that point, I have a lot of confidence with it, just knowing what both bands can bring, and also all of us collectively, together, and doing different things as an overall show. I think that people will love it.”

So far, the date of the Madison Square Garden show hasn’t been announced, but keep an eye on JourneyMusic.com and Santana.com for the latest details.