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FamilyMan wrote:This review is indicative of why the band doesn't deviate from the dirty dozen. Whether it's the crowd getting up in droves for piss breaks, or the ink from writers like this one, the guys can't get a break. If they try to shake up the set, they get condemned for it.
Memorex wrote:Bands can go two directions. Play the latest music and serve smaller crowds, or play the hits and get more seats filled in the spring/summer/Christmas time.
I hate saying this - I do. But a true artist will play the smaller venue. The business-savvy group that wants to maximize dollars on their catalog will go the "Chicago" route. Journey is Chicago now.
Not saying either one is right or wrong, it's just the choice that has to be made at some point.
jrny84 wrote:“New” Journey singer Arnel Pineda sounded, if not exactly like original singer Steve Perry, then what Perry likely sounds like today.
George_g888 wrote:Memorex wrote:Bands can go two directions. Play the latest music and serve smaller crowds, or play the hits and get more seats filled in the spring/summer/Christmas time.
I hate saying this - I do. But a true artist will play the smaller venue. The business-savvy group that wants to maximize dollars on their catalog will go the "Chicago" route. Journey is Chicago now.
Not saying either one is right or wrong, it's just the choice that has to be made at some point.
Except when Chicago is the only one on the bill, they play like 34 songs... It makes it much more worth it to spend money when a band is playing a lot of material. Even when Journey does "evening with" shows they barely play more than they already do when there are 2 other acts on the bill.
tj wrote:George_g888 wrote:Memorex wrote:Bands can go two directions. Play the latest music and serve smaller crowds, or play the hits and get more seats filled in the spring/summer/Christmas time.
I hate saying this - I do. But a true artist will play the smaller venue. The business-savvy group that wants to maximize dollars on their catalog will go the "Chicago" route. Journey is Chicago now.
Not saying either one is right or wrong, it's just the choice that has to be made at some point.
Except when Chicago is the only one on the bill, they play like 34 songs... It makes it much more worth it to spend money when a band is playing a lot of material. Even when Journey does "evening with" shows they barely play more than they already do when there are 2 other acts on the bill.
Chicago was cranking out hits long before and after Journey. They have been at it nonstop for almost 50 years and at least 20+ albums of material. They share lead vocals on different songs and change up arrangements frequently, so you won't always hear the same songs the same way each time you hear them.
They were never really a stadium filling band the way Journey was either, though. Even after Peter Cetera left 30+ years ago, they have been successful touring. Cetera made his demands, the other guys kicked him to the curb, and they just moved on. According to Andrew's interview with Herbie, it's what Herbie thinks probably what Neal and the guys should have done with Perry in 84 or 85.
jrny84 wrote:Exactly. Chicago never quite had the large audiences and draw that Journey had, especially in their heyday. While Chicago still remains a successful touring act today, they are mostly touring smaller arenas, concert halls, and theaters. Journey consistently packs out large arenas and amphitheaters throughout the U.S. They seem to have more of an appeal across the board in today's music culture.
Memorex wrote:jrny84 wrote:Exactly. Chicago never quite had the large audiences and draw that Journey had, especially in their heyday. While Chicago still remains a successful touring act today, they are mostly touring smaller arenas, concert halls, and theaters. Journey consistently packs out large arenas and amphitheaters throughout the U.S. They seem to have more of an appeal across the board in today's music culture.
My point is if Chicago focused mostly on new music, they'd be playing less often and fewer places. Same with many bands. Regardless of size, many bands would be playing smaller places less often if focused on new music.
jrny84 wrote:Memorex wrote:jrny84 wrote:Exactly. Chicago never quite had the large audiences and draw that Journey had, especially in their heyday. While Chicago still remains a successful touring act today, they are mostly touring smaller arenas, concert halls, and theaters. Journey consistently packs out large arenas and amphitheaters throughout the U.S. They seem to have more of an appeal across the board in today's music culture.
My point is if Chicago focused mostly on new music, they'd be playing less often and fewer places. Same with many bands. Regardless of size, many bands would be playing smaller places less often if focused on new music.
Yup, I agree on that point. Maybe the exceptions being Rush and Springsteen. Rush has only a few radio hits, but a very loyal fanbase.
jrny84 wrote:Memorex wrote:jrny84 wrote:Exactly. Chicago never quite had the large audiences and draw that Journey had, especially in their heyday. While Chicago still remains a successful touring act today, they are mostly touring smaller arenas, concert halls, and theaters. Journey consistently packs out large arenas and amphitheaters throughout the U.S. They seem to have more of an appeal across the board in today's music culture.
My point is if Chicago focused mostly on new music, they'd be playing less often and fewer places. Same with many bands. Regardless of size, many bands would be playing smaller places less often if focused on new music.
Yup, I agree on that point. Maybe the exceptions being Rush and Springsteen. Rush has only a few radio hits, but a very loyal fanbase.
Archetype wrote:Just saw some YouTube videos of this gig. The biggest thing that stuck out to me is Steve Smith's drumming on Faith In The Heartland. Totally different feel and it sounds awesome.
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