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Postby JourneyHard » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:42 pm

Nasty Nine
1. Separate Ways
2. Don't Stop Believin'
3. Stone In Love
4. Lights
5. Open Arms
6. Any Way You Want It
7. Faithfully
8. Wheel In The Sky
9. Who's Cryin' Now

Journey should do these songs and then do non-dirty dozen songs for the remainder of the concert. They have so much material from their catalogue that they can keep the concerts fresh and exciting.
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Re: Nasty Nine

Postby Journey/Survivor » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:12 pm

JourneyHard wrote:Nasty Nine
1. Separate Ways
2. Don't Stop Believin'
3. Stone In Love
4. Lights
5. Open Arms
6. Any Way You Want It
7. Faithfully
8. Wheel In The Sky
9. Who's Cryin' Now

Journey should do these songs and then do non-dirty dozen songs for the remainder of the concert. They have so much material from their catalogue that they can keep the concerts fresh and exciting.


If it was up to me it would be the Fantastic five....
Wheel In The Sky
Any Way You Want It
Don't Stop Believin'
Separate Ways
Be Good To Yourself

I would also definitely want Stone In Love in each show. But SIL wasn't really a hit to the extent of the other 8 songs that you named.

I would want all of the rest of the songs that they play each night to be non-hits.
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Re: Nasty Nine

Postby Yoda » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:54 am

The Frontiers record is what really got me into Journey, so my set list would look more like this:

Separate Ways
Ask The Lonely
New Frontiers
Edge of the Blade
Only The Young
Only Solutions
Faithfully
Send Her My Love
Troubled child

Encore
Don't Stop Believing
Be Good To Yourself
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Re: Nasty Nine

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:32 am

Of the "dozen", they should drop BGTY and Escape. Both of these songs are very challenging to pull off vocally and have little in the way of rotation on classic rock radio.
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Re: Nasty Nine

Postby Majestic » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:48 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Of the "dozen", they should drop BGTY and Escape. Both of these songs are very challenging to pull off vocally and have little in the way of rotation on classic rock radio.


I agree with this. Also, neither of these translate well live. Escape has a killer riffing guitar sound on the album, but anytime I hear it live it sounds muddy and washed up. Be Good to Yourself is only good in my book because of the awesome solo Neal laid down on the recording. Live he never comes close to matching that performance and plays it completely differently so much so that the song becomes very disappointing for me.
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Re: Nasty Nine

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:29 pm

The Journey meat grinder is getting to Arnel. At times he is pretty much shouting the highs in this song. Watching other clips, it also seems that the band is also using more reverb on his voice than ever before. Still sounds very good for the most part, but 3:45-4:00 is brutal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xtr26wLWwE
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Re: Nasty Nine

Postby FamilyMan » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:41 pm

Lest we all forget, "Escape" was the opener of the '81 tour. And it rocked as a first song in the set. It bothers me where they play it now (usually middle to late in their act - after a string of ballads). Feels out of place. I'd like to see them open with it again; break into "Line of Fire," as they had on that tour... and then we're off and running. Separate Ways has overstayed its welcome in that first slot.
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Re: Nasty Nine

Postby Eric » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:45 pm

FamilyMan wrote:Lest we all forget, "Escape" was the opener of the '81 tour. And it rocked as a first song in the set. It bothers me where they play it now (usually middle to late in their act - after a string of ballads). Feels out of place. I'd like to see them open with it again; break into "Line of Fire," as they had on that tour... and then we're off and running. Separate Ways has overstayed its welcome in that first slot.


Escape has all kinds of live energy.....

Their best opener in my opinion was Anyway You Want it...briefly at the end of an Augeri era tour. The lights came on just as the song began. It worked for me.
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Re: Nasty Nine

Postby MysteryMountain » Fri Apr 22, 2016 2:49 am

I won't argue best opener all time, but I always preferred Where Were You compared to the over played AWYWI, especially as an opener, & from that time period. If you listen to the Houston Boots, the Japan one, or any live Journey from that era, the drums during the opening is so fitting for that particular song as a lead in, as opposed to the abrupt beginning of AWYWI - IMHO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfbsLghzzTQ

Escape was similar for that tour - great song they added that extended intro for

https://youtu.be/GqI3dB5tgLo?list=PL-HX ... rd58Lfv_X0
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Re: Nasty Nine

Postby Eric » Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:30 am

MysteryMountain wrote:I won't argue best opener all time, but I always preferred Where Were You compared to the over played AWYWI, especially as an opener, & from that time period. If you listen to the Houston Boots, the Japan one, or any live Journey from that era, the drums during the opening is so fitting for that particular song as a lead in, as opposed to the abrupt beginning of AWYWI - IMHO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfbsLghzzTQ

Escape was similar for that tour - great song they added that extended intro for

https://youtu.be/GqI3dB5tgLo?list=PL-HX ... rd58Lfv_X0


These are awesome. I should have clarified (since '98) for my picks.
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Re: Nasty Nine

Postby FamilyMan » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:54 pm

I recently chatted w/ Smitty in New York at his art exhibit. He admitted he could not remember ANY of the songs or how he played them. Had to learn them all - all over again. It's part of the reason the set list will be limited this year, because they've only rehearsed a select few. But I too hope the "Where Were You" intro tour-de-force sees the light of day somewhere along the line.
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Re: Nasty Nine

Postby Art Vandelay » Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:40 pm

FamilyMan wrote:I recently chatted w/ Smitty in New York at his art exhibit. He admitted he could not remember ANY of the songs or how he played them. Had to learn them all - all over again. It's part of the reason the set list will be limited this year, because they've only rehearsed a select few. But I too hope the "Where Were You" intro tour-de-force sees the light of day somewhere along the line.


I like what I've seen Smith do in the videos posted so far. He is playing the songs from a different approach, but it's a fresh approach and it highlights his capabilities. Plus, it probably keeps it fun for him as well. I guess time will tell if the band and the fans appreciate his new approach to the songs.
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Re: Nasty Nine

Postby tater1977 » Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:16 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:The Journey meat grinder is getting to Arnel. At times he is pretty much shouting the highs in this song. Watching other clips, it also seems that the band is also using more reverb on his voice than ever before. Still sounds very good for the most part, but 3:45-4:00 is brutal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xtr26wLWwE


At 3.58 , AP seems like that thing you do when your on a bike ride
and you swallow a bug and your gag reflex kicks in ....

https://youtu.be/AYv4dH0w16A
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Re: Nasty Nine

Postby lparn » Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:54 am

Would love to see them add never walk away and after all these years
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