Jason Derlatka

[PMA]

Hi everyone, I came across this multi-instrumentalist and singer in YouTube covering some great songs and then found out a few weeks later that Journey has hired him for their touring band when that can eventually resume. Here's a link to one of those songs. The other musicians in this video are Trevor Lukather (Steve Lukather from Toto's son) and Sam Porcaro (Mike Porcaro from Toto's son). Really well done. Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBck1c5aiHc

[The_Noble_Cause]

Yes, Jason replaced Travis on background keys and vox.

So far, he's made an appearance with Journey Through Time (I believe it's on YT).

He also sang lead for Cain/Schon when they appeared as Journey at Scott Hamilton's cancer benefit.

If the band ever tours again, Jason will prolly have a more prominent role than Travis. I can imagine him even filling in for Cain while he's off proselytizing in Zimbabwe or something.

[Onestepper]

Jason's also been posting a decent amount on his Instagram that he's in the studio working on his own material, and seems pretty excited to get it out there. Doesn't talk about Journey too much, but that's probably just because there aren't tour plans developed yet.

Looking forward to seeing him live.

[PMA]

I'll be very interested in any music he releases given his talent but since all I've heard are covers, I have no idea what his own material will sound like. I suppose if it is similar to the genres he's covered which I would expect, it could be very good. Hoping for that.

[Moonglow]

He also sang lead for Cain/Schon when they appeared as Journey at Scott Hamilton's cancer benefit.

Here's a video of that performance, albeit more skating than band. I apologize if this has previously been posted in this forum, but thought it would be enjoyable here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oatjaoCTco

[trekman]

Anyone that has seen Journey in 2021/22 know if Jason Derlatka is still with the band? The band website only mentions Neal, Jonathan and Arnel being in the band.

[danielb]

The only members currently listed on the website: Cain, Schon and Pineda. Nice way to treat Deen.

[Onestepper]

The only members currently listed on the website: Cain, Schon and Pineda. Nice way to treat Deen.

Deen is a hired hand that is not a full member of the band. He's lucky he is even allowed to play with them again. And don't get me wrong, I'm glad he's there. Jason is also a hired hand. I don't know why people are that worked up over the three longest standing members being showcased. They've had significant turnover in the other areas, so it make sense not to include them in publicity photos.

[danielb]

Arnel is also a hired hand? And Deen was in the band before him, so...

[Onestepper]

Arnel is also a hired hand? And Deen was in the band before him, so...

And he's the lead singer who sounds like their legacy. The rest shouldn't have to be explained.

Like I said, Deen is lucky to even be in the band. Everything I've seen from him, he's doing just fine being back and not really worried about what photo he is in.

[danielb]

Arnel has his own voice and can channel Perry respectably but is obviously not as original, strong or nuanced as Perry was in his heyday. Perry had a Sam Cooke vibe. I don't get that from Arnel at all, so that's just one very major difference. Listen to "Don't Fight It" (Perry/Loggins) for a taste of the real thing. The outro. Pure gold.

Another disadvantage for Arnel is that English his not his native language. Therefore, when he is singing the the songs, I don't really get the sense he's feeling them. They are just words from a page. This is another reason why he falls short compared to Perry, Augeri and JSS.

[Monker]

I don't know why people are that worked up over the three longest standing members being showcased. They've had significant turnover in the other areas, so it make sense not to include them in publicity photos.

No, they are not being "showcased". THAT is Journey. Well, actually, just Neal and Jonathan are Journey. Everybody else are just employees of the band, including Arnel.

Why does it matter? Well....After the Bill Graham tribute concert, Neal did an interview. He said that even though that was the last incarnation of Journey; Steve, Jonathan, and Neal, that he did not want it called Journey (for the Bill Graham concert). That Journey had always been; Steve Perry, Neal Schon, Jonathan Cain, AND Steve Smith, AND Ross Valory. The emphasis in the "AND" was in the article.

Funny how that emphasis has died and been replaced by an attitude that Journey is whatever Neal decides it is.

[Onestepper]

I don't know why people are that worked up over the three longest standing members being showcased. They've had significant turnover in the other areas, so it make sense not to include them in publicity photos.

No, they are not being "showcased". THAT is Journey. Well, actually, just Neal and Jonathan are Journey. Everybody else are just employees of the band, including Arnel.

Why does it matter? Well....After the Bill Graham tribute concert, Neal did an interview. He said that even though that was the last incarnation of Journey; Steve, Jonathan, and Neal, that he did not want it called Journey (for the Bill Graham concert). That Journey had always been; Steve Perry, Neal Schon, Jonathan Cain, AND Steve Smith, AND Ross Valory. The emphasis in the "AND" was in the article.

Funny how that emphasis has died and been replaced by an attitude that Journey is whatever Neal decides it is.

You obviously don't read very well. You just repeated what I said. Good grief, this isn't that difficult to figure out.

[Monker]

You obviously don't read very well. You just repeated what I said. Good grief, this isn't that difficult to figure out.

That's bullshit. You mentioned NOTHING about Neal's attitude towards what was "Journey" back in the early 90's after the Bill Graham tribute. You did not point out how that attitude has now changed into Journey being whatever Neal says it is. THAT is an answer to YOUR QUESTION about why it is upsetting that Journey is now reduced to a duo with rotating members, like some classic rock version of Menudo.

And, to further expand on my answer, Jon did a Force interview about Bad English after they broke up. In part of it, he said that all John Waite wanted was to be a rock star. Go look at the bullshit that is the new profiles on the Journey website and tell me that Neal isn't afflicted with the same bloated ego that John Waite had.

Jon also said that he knew what it took to be in a BAND, that a band has a fate, a life, an existence...and in the end, IT died (BE's life and existence). It seems to me that is EXACTLY what is happening to Journey. Journey has been diluted down to making one man happy and everybody else hanging on for the pay checks.

Finally, Neal has said since Herbie's death how much he learned from him. Bullshit. Herbie wanted a close knit band that treated each other like family, modeled after the Grateful Dead. Journey is a cut-throat enterprise that fires players, sues players. After firing Ross and Steve Smith for ROR, Herbie said he made sure they got paid. While firing Ross and Steve Smith, Neal SUED THEM at the same time because he did NOT WANT TO PAY THEM...and then insulted their time in the band by saying they contributed nothing of significance. Journey is far away NOT what Herbie wanted them to be. Journey is NOT being run like Herbie did in the 70's and 80's.

THAT is what is frustrating to me.

[Onestepper]

You obviously don't read very well. You just repeated what I said. Good grief, this isn't that difficult to figure out.

That's bullshit. You mentioned NOTHING about Neal's attitude towards what was "Journey" back in the early 90's after the Bill Graham tribute. You did not point out how that attitude has now changed into Journey being whatever Neal says it is. THAT is an answer to YOUR QUESTION about why it is upsetting that Journey is now reduced to a duo with rotating members, like some classic rock version of Menudo.

And, to further expand on my answer, Jon did a Force interview about Bad English after they broke up. In part of it, he said that all John Waite wanted was to be a rock star. Go look at the bullshit that is the new profiles on the Journey website and tell me that Neal isn't afflicted with the same bloated ego that John Waite had.

Jon also said that he knew what it took to be in a BAND, that a band has a fate, a life, an existence...and in the end, IT died (BE's life and existence). It seems to me that is EXACTLY what is happening to Journey. Journey has been diluted down to making one man happy and everybody else hanging on for the pay checks.

Finally, Neal has said since Herbie's death how much he learned from him. Bullshit. Herbie wanted a close knit band that treated each other like family, modeled after the Grateful Dead. Journey is a cut-throat enterprise that fires players, sues players. After firing Ross and Steve Smith for ROR, Herbie said he made sure they got paid. While firing Ross and Steve Smith, Neal SUED THEM at the same time because he did NOT WANT TO PAY THEM...and then insulted their time in the band by saying they contributed nothing of significance. Journey is far away NOT what Herbie wanted them to be. Journey is NOT being run like Herbie did in the 70's and 80's.

THAT is what is frustrating to me.

Trust me, I'm not the one full of shit. You're obviously a pretty bitter guy. Sorry your favorite band didn't do business the way you wanted them to do business. I don't know what else to tell ya.

[Monker]

Trust me, I'm not the one full of shit.

You wrote a note and I answered it. You reply saying I can't read. So, I say that's bullshit and further expand on my points. Now you say I am bitter and full of shit.

Perhaps you should not ask questions you don't really want to know the answer to. Just because you can accept what Neal has turned Journey into doesn't mean that everybody does.

[JourneyHard]

Trust me, I'm not the one full of shit.

You wrote a note and I answered it. You reply saying I can't read. So, I say that's bullshit and further expand on my points. Now you say I am bitter and full of shit.

Perhaps you should not ask questions you don't really want to know the answer to. Just because you can accept what Neal has turned Journey into doesn't mean that everybody does.

Here is where the rubber hits the road! In the upcoming tour, Journey must do a real tribute to Herbie. They CANNOT just say, "And now we dedicate this to Herbie because he never stopped believin' " and then launch into Don't Stop Believin'. That is lame and NOT a true tribute. If they ever really cared about him, they have do something real in his honor at every show on the upcoming tour. One idea would be "Livin' To Do." I think that song would be perfect, but if they have a better idea, go for it.

[jrnyman28]

Realistically, I doubt there will be any real tribute to HH. The world we live in is so Short-term that most people have already moved on from his passing.

[Onestepper]

Trust me, I'm not the one full of shit.

You wrote a note and I answered it. You reply saying I can't read. So, I say that's bullshit and further expand on my points. Now you say I am bitter and full of shit.

Perhaps you should not ask questions you don't really want to know the answer to. Just because you can accept what Neal has turned Journey into doesn't mean that everybody does.

I didn't ask you any question. So stop acting like the world revolves around you. It doesn't.

[Onestepper]

Trust me, I'm not the one full of shit.

You wrote a note and I answered it. You reply saying I can't read. So, I say that's bullshit and further expand on my points. Now you say I am bitter and full of shit.

Perhaps you should not ask questions you don't really want to know the answer to. Just because you can accept what Neal has turned Journey into doesn't mean that everybody does.

Here is where the rubber hits the road! In the upcoming tour, Journey must do a real tribute to Herbie. They CANNOT just say, "And now we dedicate this to Herbie because he never stopped believin' " and then launch into Don't Stop Believin'. That is lame and NOT a true tribute. If they ever really cared about him, they have do something real in his honor at every show on the upcoming tour. One idea would be "Livin' To Do." I think that song would be perfect, but if they have a better idea, go for it.

No problem with them doing so, but why do they have to? You really think the majority of the audience even knows who HH was and what he represented to the band? Come on. Also, I'm not quite sure why they would pick a song that has zero connection to him, versus one from all of the albums he played a part to make happen.

Having said that, I'm sure they will honor him in the manner they see fit.

[Monker]

Trust me, I'm not the one full of shit.

You wrote a note and I answered it. You reply saying I can't read. So, I say that's bullshit and further expand on my points. Now you say I am bitter and full of shit.

Perhaps you should not ask questions you don't really want to know the answer to. Just because you can accept what Neal has turned Journey into doesn't mean that everybody does.

I didn't ask you any question. So stop acting like the world revolves around you. It doesn't.

I'm not going to argue such minutia with you. You know exactly what I'm talking about.

You have absolutely no authority to tell anybody how to act, or not act. You are just a peon like everybody else. I'll do what I please, until Andrew says I crossed a line.

[Monker]

Realistically, I doubt there will be any real tribute to HH. The world we live in is so Short-term that most people have already moved on from his passing.

I agree, if there was going to be any kinda tribute, it would have happened already....or at least been announced. The most we can hope for is some type of new song...like Neal did for Bill Graham on the Hardline album.

[Onestepper]

I'm not going to argue such minutia with you. You know exactly what I'm talking about.

You have absolutely no authority to tell anybody how to act, or not act. You are just a peon like everybody else. I'll do what I please, until Andrew says I crossed a line.

Telling someone that you answered a question that they never asked is not "minutia". There's another word for it.

But I'll leave it there. I hope you come to grips with things not going your way.

[koberry]

Realistically, I doubt there will be any real tribute to HH. The world we live in is so Short-term that most people have already moved on from his passing.

I agree, if there was going to be any kinda tribute, it would have happened already....or at least been announced. The most we can hope for is some type of new song...like Neal did for Bill Graham on the Hardline album.

Which song on the Hardline album was about or dedicated to Bill Graham? That’s a desert island album for me. Others might be Dawn Patrol, Infinity and Live in the Cook County Jail by BB King, for what that’s worth. That’s probably another thread

[Journey/Survivor]

Realistically, I doubt there will be any real tribute to HH. The world we live in is so Short-term that most people have already moved on from his passing.

I agree, if there was going to be any kinda tribute, it would have happened already....or at least been announced. The most we can hope for is some type of new song...like Neal did for Bill Graham on the Hardline album.

Which song on the Hardline album was about or dedicated to Bill Graham? That’s a desert island album for me. Others might be Dawn Patrol, Infinity and Live in the Cook County Jail by BB King, for what that’s worth. That’s probably another thread

The Hardline song is an instrumental called "31-91."