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Re: Let It Rain

Postby schonfan » Fri May 20, 2022 4:00 am

I’m glad that some of you like the new tunes, but honestly I could not be more disappointed. I was expecting a really polished soaring album with a studio quality like infinity or trial by fire. These first two songs just sound thin and lazy. Not hearing anything that makes me stop in my tracks and give it a few more plays… and this is my favorite band. Like somebody else said, these are Red13 quality releases. Surprised Narada would put his name on this. Hopefully the rest of the album shines
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Re: Let It Rain

Postby Journey/Survivor » Fri May 20, 2022 8:42 am

While I do agree that Red 13 is of lesser quality in terms of production than most of Journey's releases, I never considered the production to be as bad as a lot of people make it out to be. The same can be said but even more so about Generations. I've never considered it to be that badly produced.

I'll say this also. Lots of times when I'm listening to a new album for the first time, or even the first several times, I tend to think that the vocals are buried in the mix. But after I get to know the album well the vocals never seem to be buried in the mix to me anymore.
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Re: Let It Rain

Postby jrnyman28 » Fri May 20, 2022 10:37 am

2 things:

* I played Let It Rain for a friend at work today. 1st time I've played it on my computer speakers. Heard stuff I hadn't noticed previously. My friend was stunned by the song, said he never would've guessed it to be Journey if I hadn't told him....and he really liked it. Said he is now much more interested in the new album. AND he is not the biggest Journey fan. Knows the hits. Listens to much heavier music but still respects the band and Perry.

* I also listened to Let It Rain on my earbuds last night and it sounded OK. Definitely not the polished Journey of yore, but not terrible. So maybe this album is mixed for modern shitty technology. Not sure what that would mean for the vinyl release.
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Re: Let It Rain

Postby Monker » Fri May 20, 2022 10:41 am

Journey/Survivor wrote:While I do agree that Red 13 is of lesser quality in terms of production than most of Journey's releases, I never considered the production to be as bad as a lot of people make it out to be. The same can be said but even more so about Generations. I've never considered it to be that badly produced.


I agree about Red13 (and Arrival) not sounding that bad. The big complaint I have about Generations is Augeri's vocals sound like a cassette dubbed too many times to where you get that "shhhh" whenever he does an 's' sound. It's really annoying to me.

I'll say this also. Lots of times when I'm listening to a new album for the first time, or even the first several times, I tend to think that the vocals are buried in the mix. But after I get to know the album well the vocals never seem to be buried in the mix to me anymore.


I listened to "Rockin' Horse", just to compare...and John Waite's vocal is right there in the center of the mix, loud and easy to hear. That song really puts this one to shame, IMO.
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Re: Let It Rain

Postby Journey/Survivor » Fri May 20, 2022 12:09 pm

Monker wrote:
Journey/Survivor wrote:While I do agree that Red 13 is of lesser quality in terms of production than most of Journey's releases, I never considered the production to be as bad as a lot of people make it out to be. The same can be said but even more so about Generations. I've never considered it to be that badly produced.


I agree about Red13 (and Arrival) not sounding that bad. The big complaint I have about Generations is Augeri's vocals sound like a cassette dubbed too many times to where you get that "shhhh" whenever he does an 's' sound. It's really annoying to me.

I'll say this also. Lots of times when I'm listening to a new album for the first time, or even the first several times, I tend to think that the vocals are buried in the mix. But after I get to know the album well the vocals never seem to be buried in the mix to me anymore.


I listened to "Rockin' Horse", just to compare...and John Waite's vocal is right there in the center of the mix, loud and easy to hear. That song really puts this one to shame, IMO.


Interestingly, that recording of Rockin' Horse was recorded live and they removed the audience noise from the recording.
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Re: Let It Rain

Postby schonfan » Fri May 20, 2022 11:49 pm

Never knew that about rocking horse. Pretty cool
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Re: Let It Rain

Postby jestor92 » Sat May 21, 2022 3:03 am

I’ve heard all 3 singles and none of them sounds like a good song to my ears. They sound like album filler and has me wondering if I should purchase the album when it drops.
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Re: Let It Rain

Postby Arkansas » Thu May 26, 2022 6:18 am

Monker wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:I think Sammy Hagar would sound good singing this song. It would fit with his band Circle.

I agree with this, too. Hagar would sound good on this.


Yeah, +1 for Hagar. And, save it for Piranha Blues II.


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Re: Let It Rain

Postby brywool » Thu May 26, 2022 11:42 am

Dang, what's all the bitchin' about? While it does sound like Rocking Horse (that's.... BAD???? [English, yeah yeah...]), it also reminds me of 'Lady Luck' and it's a great vibe to me. My wife says from the kitchen "Dang, sounds sexy, that's JOURNEY??". It's cool to hear Journey rocking out like this and Arnel's killing on it to me. To each their own, I guess. The production... yeah, reverb heavy for me, but to me, this is the best of the 3 new tracks. Loved it.
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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Re: Let It Rain

Postby Journey/Survivor » Thu May 26, 2022 1:04 pm

brywool wrote:Dang, what's all the bitchin' about? While it does sound like Rocking Horse (that's.... BAD???? [English, yeah yeah...]), it also reminds me of 'Lady Luck' and it's a great vibe to me. My wife says from the kitchen "Dang, sounds sexy, that's JOURNEY??". It's cool to hear Journey rocking out like this and Arnel's killing on it to me. To each their own, I guess. The production... yeah, reverb heavy for me, but to me, this is the best of the 3 new tracks. Loved it.


Lady Luck is my favorite song on the Evolution album. It's Schon's favorite too based on what I've seen him say in at least one interview.

I love Lady Luck, I love Rockin' Horse, and I hope to love Let It Rain!
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Re: Let It Rain

Postby JourneyHard » Thu May 26, 2022 2:20 pm

I guess people want every new Journey song to sound like Don't Stop Believin'.

Let It Rain shows the band isn't dead. They are taking chances and it doesn't sound like anything else they have ever done. To me, I thought that is what people wanted, but it turns out they just want Journey to be safe and play the same type of material over and over again.

Let It Rains is the exact rocker I have been waiting for for almost 40 years. Remember, Edge of the Blade. It rocked and Perry sang it as a hard rocker, too. Perry didn't sing like a ballad while Neal and the band were rocking. Perry's vocals were hard rock and really dug down deep.

If that is Arnel singing lead vocals, I would have never been able to tell in a million years. He sang the song as a rocker and not as a ballad. I am very impressed.
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Re: Let It Rain

Postby danielb » Thu May 26, 2022 5:12 pm

I thought it was a good thing to have a singer who is instantly recognizable? Like Perry. Why would you want to have a vocal performance which leaves you wondering who the singer is?

Let it Rain has nothing to do with Edge of the Blade. The former is a throwaway track with a terrible production, the latter a minor masterpiece in its vocal execution by Perry and general build up / arrangement. No comparisons.
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Re: Let It Rain

Postby Monker » Thu May 26, 2022 11:36 pm

danielb wrote:I thought it was a good thing to have a singer who is instantly recognizable? Like Perry. Why would you want to have a vocal performance which leaves you wondering who the singer is?

Let it Rain has nothing to do with Edge of the Blade. The former is a throwaway track with a terrible production, the latter a minor masterpiece in its vocal execution by Perry and general build up / arrangement. No comparisons.


They are alike in one way: Neither one of them should have been a single.
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Re: Let It Rain

Postby Eric » Sat Jul 30, 2022 3:30 am

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Re: Let It Rain

Postby Journey/Survivor » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:30 pm

Musically, Let It Rain is a song that I could hear Schon and Rolie having done together.

I know that I'm in the minority on this, but LIR is one of my favorite songs on Freedom.
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