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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Eric » Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:36 am

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Other than Herbie saying Valory didn’t improve his playing temporarily, I’ve never read/heard anyone from Journey say anything negative about each other’s abilities… at least there’s that.


1) I thought there was a bit of a blowup about Marco where Neal said he was playing over him and could not play the songs right in concert, or whatever...and eventually fired him.

2) Then there were Perry complaints that Steve Smith could not play like a drum machine, or whatever, and fired him for ROR. The same with Ross. Steve Smith felt insulted by those comments for years but found he had to learn to play like that to be a good studio musician...and took that approach for TBF.

3) Herbie also talked at length about Perry's voice changing after Escape...with a huge complaint about Perry's list of changes for the Bill Graham tribute, dropping everything by two full steps and Neal and Jonathan having to rewrite the music. And, Perry required somebody to get him the lyrics to Faithfully and Lights because he was not sure of what they were.

Also, Herbie did not just say Ross didn't improve temporarily but something like, "You have been in this band for five years but your skills have not changed since day one. You would think a professional musician would seek to improve himself." What I read was more insulting like that, not a casual comment like you said.


1) You're right, but he played 2 shows and Schon also prefaced it with he was a great player BUT....

2) That is a good point.

3) I do recall that, but a 3 song set in the middle of the Journey abyss wasn't representative of his feelings about Perry's voice.

4) Yeah, it was insulting, but he followed it up with something about him improving over time and was a better bass player at that current time.

I was more coming from a POV where even with all the personal negativity and drama I've never heard Perry, Cain or Schon be anything but complimentary of their musicianship. And while either Augeri or Schon revealed how Schon wanted him to sing harder, I've never heard anything negative about Arnel?
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:43 am

In a new legal declaration, Journey's co-business manager says Schon had access to the American Express records for a while. This is shaping up to be another frivolous junk lawsuit by The Schons. One of the names referenced in the legal document, Jeff Elmore, is identified as Neal's personal assistant. His name should be familiar to some fans. He's been on social media routinely attacking Arnel, Jon etc.


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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:58 am

Another legal declaration - this one from Cain, including itemized American Express charges Neal is racking up. Alot of this (hair salon, florist) seems like his wife's expenses. If Paula is doing the same on the band account (as they claim), they better prove it. Cain is bringing the receipts and the heat! Right now this looks very bad. And what's with all the ubers?

The Nomota AMEX card is used to charge the expenses related to Journey’s
touring activities, including but not limited to, airfare, hotels, and other vendors, that the band
relies on to go on tour. Schon first obtained an AMEX platinum card on the Nomota account in or about
May of 2021. Prior to that time, he had never expressed any interest in having such a card.
Shortly after Schon obtained an AMEX platinum card on the Nomota account, the
problems began. Specifically, Schon started using the Nomota AMEX platinum card, the one on
which I am the personal guarantor, to charge his personal expenses.........

For the one-month billing period ending March 16, 2022, Schon astonishingly
charged more than $400,000 of his personal expenses on the Nomota AMEX platinum card.
[Exhibit A, pages 5-21.] I had never seen anything like it. The charges include more than
$42,000 to various PayPal accounts, more than $104,000 to Chrome Hearts (jewelry and
apparel), more than $31,000 to Bergdorf Goodman (department store in New York City), and
$54,356.25 for his personal insurance premiums. [Exhibit A, pages 5-21.]


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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Memorex » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:54 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Another legal declaration - this one from Cain, including itemized American Express charges Neal is racking up. Alot of this (hair salon, florist) seems like his wife's expenses. If Paula is doing the same on the band account (as they claim), they better prove it. Cain is bringing the receipts and the heat! Right now this looks very bad. And what's with all the ubers?


Hopefully for all involved the personal expenses were shown as draws from Neal and not shown as company expenses.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:44 pm

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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby jestor92 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:54 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Neal declaration out. Pretty weak.


https://odyportal.cc-courts.org/Portal/ ... onId=False

I’m assuming the SP Share is the amount Steve Perry still gets?
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Memorex » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:49 pm

jestor92 wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Neal declaration out. Pretty weak.


https://odyportal.cc-courts.org/Portal/ ... onId=False

I’m assuming the SP Share is the amount Steve Perry still gets?


Not the reported 12%. Depending on how they calculate it looks like anywhere between 1.5% and 8-9%.

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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:19 am

Jonathan's motion to dismiss Neal's attorney based on conflict of interest was granted today. Skip Miller, who represented both Jonathan & Neal during the Smith/Ross suit, is gone. Neal has to find a new lawyer.

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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby ebake02 » Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:51 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Neal declaration out. Pretty weak.


https://odyportal.cc-courts.org/Portal/ ... onId=False


I wouldn’t put it past Cain at all to add his wife to that credit card but I doubt it happened. They don’t need to run up the band’s card when they’re living off what she bilks out of her congregation.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed May 17, 2023 1:02 pm

Latest update.....

Neal's attempt to demure Cain's cross-complaint has been overruled. In other words, Neal lost again.

Nobody - from either Schon or Cain's legal camp - appeared. Perhaps the Journey war is over?


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