Cain vs. Schon (again)

[kmjrr]

I hope Cain sees the lawsuit through. I went to see Journey earlier this year for Arnel and Deen but I'm done now. Both of them I think feel a debt to Neal so it would take a lot for them to leave this mess.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I would consider that infighting since Smith/Valory were both part of the band when Nightmare made their trademark complaint against JTT....

I meant the legal fighting between Jonathan and Neal. If those two were already directly at odds, Freedom never would have been created.

[Arkansas]

... If those two were already directly at odds, Freedom never would have been created.

And since they are at odds now, we'll likely never see the new single that JC mentioned.


later~

[JourneyHard]

I am NOT a lawyer, but the judge needs to order a neutral party takes control over Journey's money. The neutral party can make sure the crew and everybody is paid. Neal should be ordered to repay all the money he spent from the Journey account. This isn't his money. Neal would have to give all the money he earns from future tours back to the Journey account until he repays every cent. This means his wife Michelle will probably leave him because he won't have any money for awhile. She wants to live at an unrealistic lifestyle. So, she's gone and then we will see if Neal loves touring so much that he will do it for free for years or however long it takes to repay the money he spent. But if he doesn't tour, Neal goes to jail. This is a soap opera.

[Monker]

I am NOT a lawyer, but the judge needs to order a neutral party takes control over Journey's money. The neutral party can make sure the crew and everybody is paid. Neal should be ordered to repay all the money he spent from the Journey account. This isn't his money. Neal would have to give all the money he earns from future tours back to the Journey account until he repays every cent. This means his wife Michelle will probably leave him because he won't have any money for awhile. She wants to live at an unrealistic lifestyle. So, she's gone and then we will see if Neal loves touring so much that he will do it for free for years or however long it takes to repay the money he spent. But if he doesn't tour, Neal goes to jail. This is a soap opera.

Putting things into the hands of a judge is always a bad idea. If any dispute can be settled then that is the way to go. Even if it seems obvious what the outcome should be here...there is nothing to stop the judge from deciding something completely different. For example, he could say this is a frivolous lawsuit from Jonathan and give Neal complete control of Journey's finances. People may say that the "evidence", or whatever, does not support that...but it is not up to your opinion, or Neal's, or Jonathan's...they left it up to the judge to decide. Or, he could do it the exact opposite and give financial control to Jonathan. You just never know - because it is left up to the judge.

Neal and Jonathan would be smart to settle this...because either, or both, could be disappointed in what the judge does.

[ebake02]

New social media response from Neal. Countersuit drops at 5pm today. The revisionist history (Neal hired Jon? Lol) and the use of titles (founder, lead, manager, president, secretary, co-treasurer, etc.) speaks to some really deep rooted insecurities.

"I find Cain's slanderous allegations are very disruptive and damaging with intent to try to harm me , the band , crew , promoter, and the door. Truly disturbing to hear of Mr. Cains filing in the middle of Journey's very successful Stadium Tour with our good friends Def Leppard. Journey has a great life, and I thank the fans for that.

Jonathan Cain has created a very hostile work environment for not only myself, but other band members and crew-members. The allegations are false, and I intend to prove it in court. My answers to Mr. Cain's false allegations and filing will be submitted by 5 PM ET Monday for all to read. My focus is , as it always has been , and will be , the music and fan since when I began Journey in 1972. 51 years now for me , I will continue to always do what’s right for Journey in protecting and making good decisions for the band , crew, music and fans, All journey band members you see on the stage with me I personally hired, including Jonathan Cain. I will let the music do the talking."

- Neal Schon Journey Founder Lead Guitarist of Journey - Manager - President - Secretary - managing member and co-Treasurer.

This seems like a typical dispute, Jon is arguing this, Neal is arguing that, the truth is somewhere in the middle and Michaele's high class lifestyle expectation is the driving force behind all of it. What surprises me though is that a third party wasn't added to their freedom 2020 LLC after the first round of lawsuits, any smart lawyer would have insisted on that.

[The_Noble_Cause]

What surprises me though is that a third party wasn't added to their freedom 2020 LLC after the first round of lawsuits, any smart lawyer would have insisted on that.

The lawsuit was withdrawn and Neal kept spending (apparently).

[Eric]

https://x.com/NealSchonMusic/status/1826708619313988092

Dear Friends,

Anyone who follows Journey will know that Jon Cain and I don't always see eye-to-eye on everything Or, sometimes, on pretty much anything. Recently, Jon Cain made a number of claims and slanderous accusations about me and my wife – and I can't stress enough how much it upset me and how wrong they are. I am determined to take the high road and push all this aside for the moment to focus on our fans, the tour and all who give so much to make things happen. That’s why I'm so glad that Jon now agrees with me that the current dynamic can't continue and it’s also why I'm pleased that we're going to bring in someone impartial to help us resolve our disputes, bring clarity to what we're doing and allow us, as a band, to get back to what we should all focus on – making music and performing for our fans.

Thank you all for your support and see you out there soon.

Neal Schon Journey Founder

[The_Noble_Cause]

https://x.com/NealSchonMusic/status/1826708619313988092

Dear Friends,

Anyone who follows Journey will know that Jon Cain and I don't always see eye-to-eye on everything Or, sometimes, on pretty much anything. Recently, Jon Cain made a number of claims and slanderous accusations about me and my wife – and I can't stress enough how much it upset me and how wrong they are. I am determined to take the high road and push all this aside for the moment to focus on our fans, the tour and all who give so much to make things happen. That’s why I'm so glad that Jon now agrees with me that the current dynamic can't continue and it’s also why I'm pleased that we're going to bring in someone impartial to help us resolve our disputes, bring clarity to what we're doing and allow us, as a band, to get back to what we should all focus on – making music and performing for our fans.

Thank you all for your support and see you out there soon.

Neal Schon Journey Founder

Jon's lawsuit asked for an impartial party to begin with.
Reading this, you would think it was Schon's idea.

[Onestepper]

Maybe Schon's lawyer finally convinced him to just knock it off and go with what was probably going to be mandated by the court and bring in a third party. Save yourself a ton of money in lawyer fees as well.

I laughed at how he signed the letter. We get it, you founded the band. No one cares.

[jrnyman28]

It was all “all PR is good PR”