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WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:48 pm

"Why Can't This Night Go On Forever" was played at the band's Seattle show on Wednesday. Link below. I recall Arnel doing this in the early years when he joined. While it was a good effort, the years are starting to take their toll. Pitch is all over the place and at 1:22, you can distinctly hear auto-tune or pro-tools type sound. Discuss.

https://youtu.be/tj18KrmQSrI?si=9DJ8Y5MtsZcIUf3F
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby Art Vandelay » Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:18 pm

Rough one. I had to stop it at 30 seconds. I appreciate Arnel wanting to sing this for the fans, as it was never performed with Perry.
Perry put all of his blood, sweat and tears into that recording. His performance was at another level. I don't know how he would have handled it live.
It's a song I wish would have been left alone, to be honest.
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby Pelata » Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:36 pm

For my money, that's the best ballad Journey ever did and Perry's performance on ROR is monumental.

I am not even going to bother listening to Arnel do it.
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby Eric » Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:03 am

He's battling and his heart and soul are still solidly present in this clip. It's a million times better than all of these tribute/cover clips that many on here seem to adore.

The best its ever been done live... and ever will be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N88cW0zfDrk

That looks, sounds and feels like two lifetimes ago.
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby kmjrr » Fri Sep 06, 2024 3:52 am

10 or 15 years ago Arnel would have nailed it, probably a full song performance.
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby Monker » Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:31 am

Not sure if that warbly sound is auto-tune or just some type of vocal affect he is using. It happened earlier in the song too, just not as noticible.
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby danielb » Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:41 am

That was brutal.
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Sep 06, 2024 5:00 am

Monker wrote:Not sure if that warbly sound is auto-tune or just some type of vocal affect he is using. It happened earlier in the song too, just not as noticible.


Yeah, I noticed that too. Hopefully somebody with more tech expertise weighs in.
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby jrnyman28 » Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:51 am

Eric wrote:
The best its ever been done live... and ever will be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N88cW0zfDrk

That looks, sounds and feels like two lifetimes ago.


Wow! That really is a great performance. And Neal is still playing for the song instead of the ego!
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby jrnyman28 » Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:55 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:"Why Can't This Night Go On Forever" was played at the band's Seattle show on Wednesday. Link below. I recall Arnel doing this in the early years when he joined. While it was a good effort, the years are starting to take their toll. Pitch is all over the place and at 1:22, you can distinctly hear auto-tune or pro-tools type sound. Discuss.

https://youtu.be/tj18KrmQSrI?si=9DJ8Y5MtsZcIUf3F



He hits one REALLY harsh note but I thought the rest was ok. My big problem is his choice of phrasing. Also, I sorta feel like Arnel has entered his Frontiers voice era. A little lower, maybe a little warmer timbre.
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby danielb » Fri Sep 06, 2024 2:29 pm

This shows what a monumental singer Perry once was.
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby jestor92 » Fri Sep 06, 2024 2:44 pm

That was brutal
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby Art Vandelay » Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:27 pm



Wow, I enjoyed that. And the original performance from Arnel was really cool too.
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby Pelata » Sat Sep 07, 2024 1:22 am

danielb wrote:This shows what a monumental singer Perry once was.


Perry's performance on ROR, and on WCTNGOF in particular, is absolutely stunning and monumental. The tone, the dynamics, the overall delivery is just brilliant.
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Sep 07, 2024 3:53 am



I had seen it before, but I watched it a few times after you posted. Just phenomenal. I hope JH sees this and is well!
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby danielb » Sat Sep 07, 2024 4:05 am

Pelata wrote:Perry's performance on ROR, and on WCTNGOF in particular, is absolutely stunning and monumental. The tone, the dynamics, the overall delivery is just brilliant.


Yep, his finest hour.
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby danielb » Sat Sep 07, 2024 6:10 pm

JH does it better than Arnel even when Arnel was in peak condition. JH's tone is just closer to Perry.
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby Loneman1 » Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:27 am

I wouldn't mind at all hearing Deeno take a stab at this someday. It'll probably never happen, but history has shown he was their go-to guy for deep cuts from ROR for years and he does a damn fine job doing them as well!
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby Deb » Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:40 pm

Loneman1 wrote:I wouldn't mind at all hearing Deeno take a stab at this someday. It'll probably never happen, but history has shown he was their go-to guy for deep cuts from ROR for years and he does a damn fine job doing them as well!


Ditto. Was just coming on to post the exact same thing. I would like to hear his version too. I recall posting about my all time favorite song being Still They Ride and saying I never hear of that being played, probably as Perry’s vocal tone is just magic on that one. Somebody on here posted a clip of Deen singing STR. Blew me away, it was really good! Can’t seem to find it now.
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby Loneman1 » Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:00 am

Deb wrote:
Loneman1 wrote:I wouldn't mind at all hearing Deeno take a stab at this someday. It'll probably never happen, but history has shown he was their go-to guy for deep cuts from ROR for years and he does a damn fine job doing them as well!


Ditto. Was just coming on to post the exact same thing. I would like to hear his version too. I recall posting about my all time favorite song being Still They Ride and saying I never hear of that being played, probably as Perry’s vocal tone is just magic on that one. Somebody on here posted a clip of Deen singing STR. Blew me away, it was really good! Can’t seem to find it now.


Yup, I know theres a clip or two of him singing Still They Ride with Journey proper, but the version I usually repeat a few times when listening to it is on the Journey Through Time album. Dude NAILS that song!
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby Eric » Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:27 am

Saw this great clip of Stay Awhile today on YT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0uQk5VvLkc&start=3341
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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby Deb » Wed Sep 11, 2024 2:22 pm

Loneman1 wrote:
Deb wrote:
Loneman1 wrote:I wouldn't mind at all hearing Deeno take a stab at this someday. It'll probably never happen, but history has shown he was their go-to guy for deep cuts from ROR for years and he does a damn fine job doing them as well!


Ditto. Was just coming on to post the exact same thing. I would like to hear his version too. I recall posting about my all time favorite song being Still They Ride and saying I never hear of that being played, probably as Perry’s vocal tone is just magic on that one. Somebody on here posted a clip of Deen singing STR. Blew me away, it was really good! Can’t seem to find it now.


Yup, I know theres a clip or two of him singing Still They Ride with Journey proper, but the version I usually repeat a few times when listening to it is on the Journey Through Time album. Dude NAILS that song!


Found it. Love this version. The reason it’s my favorite song is Perry’s inflections/tone and the way he would elongate a word. Especially in the chorus. I’ve never heard a version of STR come close. But Deen’s comes very close (all while multi-tasking behind the kit). I was VERY impressed. Lol and that is saying a lot, the bar for me is set very high on that song.

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Re: WCTNGOF - 09/04/24

Postby kmjrr » Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:46 pm

Eric wrote:Saw this great clip of Stay Awhile today on YT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0uQk5VvLkc&start=3341


Nice! I'll have to watch that whole show
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