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Postby perryfaithful » Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:25 pm

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As far as thanking Augeri for his Red 13 dedication.............Would your mother-in-law thank you if you named your pet frog after her? :wink:



You were on a roll today HOTS! :lol:
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:27 pm

perryfaithful wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:
As far as thanking Augeri for his Red 13 dedication.............Would your mother-in-law thank you if you named your pet frog after her? :wink:



You were on a roll today HOTS! :lol:


That's right.....
Continue obliviously on your path of hyprocrisy.
Fervently scold Yakov for saying something unflattering about Perry and then compliment your buddies when their jokes happen to be about Augeri or the new line up.


Pssst..hey Perryfaithful.
As usual, your alleged non-existent bias is showing.
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Postby perryfaithful » Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:41 pm

A little sense of humor wouldn't hurt you buddy! Lighten up
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Postby Monker » Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:48 am

heardonthestreet wrote:You had me with "what a great Q&A it was." I would have been suprised but than you had to ruin it with your whineing as usual..


I'm not here to please you, am I?

You choose to read and reply to whatever posts for your own selfish reasons. But, don't try to put feelings and opinions in me that aren't there.
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Postby Monker » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:11 am

A complement isn't a complement unless the recipient sees it as such.


If you can't see that what Augeri said is a compliment, then you are eyes are more blind then mine. If Perry didn't see it, then he should have had his eyeballs replaced instead of his hip.

Now if a child named a pet frog that he loved after me that could be taken as a sincere compliment, however, if an adult named an animal that I found repulsive after me, regardless of how he felt about said animal, I wouldn't be the least bit flattered.


That is such a lame comparison.

If somebody told me that my work, or art, or whatever, was an inspiration to them and they dedicated a piece of their own work to me, it would be an honor...no matter what the quality of that art is.

I can see how the Augeri fans might be affronted by the way Steve answered that question, I can also see why so many of us who are faithful to Steve Perry are pleased with it.


You are only 'pleased' with it because it validates your own divisive tendencies...which is another reason I feel Perry should not have answered the question.

Some of them seem to have a need for Steve to accept Augeri and/or endorse the band as it is


At this point, Perry's 'opinion' of Augeri is irrelevent. It would have been worth something back when the BTM was filmed...but, it's much too late for his words to mean much.

But, that does not mean that Perry could not have had the ability to accept a compliment with a bit of grace.

some of us want him to stick to his guns and retain his integrity, of course we're going to see it differently.


When Perry continues to add fuel the division his fans are feeling, he has LESS integrity, not more.

I was wondering when you'd get around to being THAT "rude and crude".


why shouldn't I? Your post dug a lot deeper hole then mine. I'm just following your lead. In fact, I didn't even go as far down that hole as you did. Before you start preaching to me, look at yourself.

As far as the divisiveness that you say I've generated over Steve's answer, there was no divisiveness between PF and I when I responded to her post.


Why would there be any 'division' between another Perry fan and yourself?

It only happened when the Augeri fans chimed in with their negativity towards Steve in defense of Augeri.


Which was in reply to your "Go Steve" crap, which was in response to Perry expressing his feelings of keeping only the memories of Journey when he was in the band.

I don't think Steve intended to slight Augeri in what he said. I think he just answered the question truthfully.


I didn't say he did it in some kinda premeditated, intentional, planned out thing. I'm just saying when somebody pays an artist a compliment as Augeri did, as that question reflected, that the artist should at least say 'thank you'. To ignore it is insulting.

Why would he thank his fans for a statement that was attributed to Augeri?


Why would he thank his fans for that question? That makes no sense at all.

He should thank Augeri, as he did other people in the Q/A when questions contained comments from other people who complimented him.

He answered THE QUESTION that he was asked.


Yep, and he did that in a way to add more fuel to your divisive behavior. Go Steve, go.

Neither PF nor I knew that anything more than that question had been in the email until you pointed it out.


Funny, I can read and understand a Perry interview better then some Perry fans.

Now why would you want to go and instigate such a divisive discussion?


I didn't. I commented on this question...a conversation that was ALREADY instigated by you two. If you wanted a private discussion between the two of you that nobody else could comment on, there is this thing called Email.
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Postby perryfaithful » Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:03 am

I see that Steve A made a birthday speech at Back Talk. Did anyone read ALL of it and see if he commented on his meeting with Steve Perry?
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Postby yak » Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:47 am

perryfaithful wrote:.....and if there is a "thank you" owed, it is to Steve Augeri PERSONALLY, not to us! Perhaps this happened in their brief meeting? We don't know, but to demand that Perry publicly respond to this information ( which presents as here say) seems like a plea for the fans egos, not Augeri's!


And if Perry had responded to this in a most positive way, you would be gushing your saliva about it all over this forum.



I see that Steve A made a birthday speech at Back Talk. Did anyone read ALL of it and see if he commented on his meeting with Steve Perry?


Fishing again to start another fight, are we? You know you can read it yourself if you want to.

Your agenda is showing.
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Postby perryfaithful » Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:12 am

yak wrote:
perryfaithful wrote:.....and if there is a "thank you" owed, it is to Steve Augeri PERSONALLY, not to us! Perhaps this happened in their brief meeting? We don't know, but to demand that Perry publicly respond to this information ( which presents as here say) seems like a plea for the fans egos, not Augeri's!


And if Perry had responded to this in a most positive way, you would be gushing your saliva about it all over this forum.



I see that Steve A made a birthday speech at Back Talk. Did anyone read ALL of it and see if he commented on his meeting with Steve Perry?


Fishing again to start another fight, are we? You know you can read it yourself if you want to.

Your agenda is showing.



This idea that Steve Perry "needs" to acknowledge Augeri's dedication on that Red13 thing did NOT come from me. It was and continues to be of NO concern to me, one way or the other.

As a follow up to the lengthy conversation re this issue (for some of you) I thought perhaps some info right from the horses mouth might help.....or not...and wondered if someone who was actually interested in reading thru birthday greetings (cause I ain't) might share!

very simple Yak! Don't know what to do when their isn't controversy? Not fun to be here then? You try WAY TOO HARD. Folks here can think and speak for themselves

Thank You!
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Postby LAWoman » Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:32 am

Everybody needs to just get over this stupid fight about Perry vs Stevie A. At the WOF ceremony when one of the Mark & Brian guys was saying how Stevie had stepped in to fill some very big shoes and was doing a great job, Perry was clapping and nodding his head yes. He could have just stood there. Perry didn't mind saying that Mark & Brian were dicks for invading his privacy so if he really had something negative to say about Stevie A, I think he'd just say it and make it clear. The boys could all stand up there and share some time together without fighting. Maybe the fans could do the same?
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Postby heardonthestreet » Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:44 am

So you have no problem with the way Perry answered the Q&A concerning Augeri Barb? I'm with you. I think he made a lot of fans happy there.
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Postby perryfaithful » Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:29 am

LAWoman wrote:Everybody needs to just get over this stupid fight about Perry vs Stevie A. At the WOF ceremony when one of the Mark & Brian guys was saying how Stevie had stepped in to fill some very big shoes and was doing a great job, Perry was clapping and nodding his head yes. He could have just stood there. Perry didn't mind saying that Mark & Brian were dicks for invading his privacy so if he really had something negative to say about Stevie A, I think he'd just say it and make it clear. The boys could all stand up there and share some time together without fighting. Maybe the fans could do the same?


Thanks for the "on site" report Barb! What else can you tell us poor folk who missed that exciting day?? Did Perry really call Mark and Brian "dicks" in public? Or is that your word?? Hey, it's one of my favorites. Seems to me that the boys TRIED to invade his privacy, but did not actually succeed? Or did I miss a part of this story?
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Postby arden » Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:09 am

Well said. Thanks.


LAWoman wrote:Everybody needs to just get over this stupid fight about Perry vs Stevie A. At the WOF ceremony when one of the Mark & Brian guys was saying how Stevie had stepped in to fill some very big shoes and was doing a great job, Perry was clapping and nodding his head yes. He could have just stood there. Perry didn't mind saying that Mark & Brian were dicks for invading his privacy so if he really had something negative to say about Stevie A, I think he'd just say it and make it clear. The boys could all stand up there and share some time together without fighting. Maybe the fans could do the same?
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Postby perryfaithful » Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:30 am

As the person who started this thread, let me remind all that it was STARTED as Steve Augeri and Steve Perry TOGETHER at the WOF.......not "vs" each other.
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Postby ohsherrie » Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:01 am

Monker wrote: If you wanted a private discussion between the two of you that nobody else could comment on, there is this thing called Email.



I never said I didn't want anyone else to comment on the subject. I said there was no "divisiveness" until they did. You're the one who is making a fuss about the "divisiveness" that's been generated. Maybe you should have restricted your inflamatory remarks to emails.

LAWoman and PF are right. There was no apparent acrimony between Steve and Augeri on the occasion. There was none intended in Steve's reply to the question that's the subject of this thread. There was none intended in PF's original post or my reply to it. It was created here because some of you chose to read some sort of "nya nya" into my initial response to PF. She asked what people thought they may have talked about, I replied that I doubted, based on his answer to the question, that there was any "frontman to frontman" chit chat, meaning shoptalk. Of course I like the idea of Steve's memories of Journey being of the time he was with them because that's the Journey that I love, hence my Go Stevies.

My apologies to PF for saying wrongly that we didn't know about the question. What I should have said is that we didn't bring that part of the question into the discussion. You did because you wanted to create a controversy for which to blame the Perry fans.
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Postby perryfaithful » Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:22 am

Thank You ohsherrie! :D
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Postby jrnyman28 » Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:53 am

perryfaithful wrote:Thanks for the "on site" report Barb! What else can you tell us poor folk who missed that exciting day?? Did Perry really call Mark and Brian "dicks" in public? Or is that your word?? Hey, it's one of my favorites. Seems to me that the boys TRIED to invade his privacy, but did not actually succeed? Or did I miss a part of this story?


I don't think he said anything like that. He mentioned that he almost didn't come because of what Mark & Brian were doing. He didn't like it.
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Postby yak » Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:25 pm

ohsherrie wrote:LAWoman and PF are right. There was no apparent acrimony between Steve and Augeri on the occasion.


The difference between LAWoman and PF is this:

Perryfaithful wrote:

Did Perry really call Mark and Brian "dicks" in public? Or is that your word?? Hey, it's one of my favorites.


LAWoman doesn't ever try to stir the pot with a "hidden" agenda. She comes here with facts, and gets called ambulance chaser. People pretend to want her take on things so they can take what she says and make a mockery of it.

So, PF, your favorite word is "dicks"? :lol: If somebody from Journey or somebody else had called Perry a dick, a prick, or whatever, you would be crying holy-hell.


You did because you wanted to create a controversy for which to blame the Perry fans.


RRRIIIGHTTTTT......

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Postby LAWoman » Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:35 pm

jrnyman28 wrote:
perryfaithful wrote:Thanks for the "on site" report Barb! What else can you tell us poor folk who missed that exciting day?? Did Perry really call Mark and Brian "dicks" in public? Or is that your word?? Hey, it's one of my favorites. Seems to me that the boys TRIED to invade his privacy, but did not actually succeed? Or did I miss a part of this story?


I don't think he said anything like that. He mentioned that he almost didn't come because of what Mark & Brian were doing. He didn't like it.


Actually Mark (or Brian--I can't keep them straight) was saying during the little introduction something about Perry thinking they were dicks for that whole business on their show for two days and Perry (not on mike but clearly you could hear his words) said "you still are". So no, the word "dicks" didn't come out of his mouth--but, that's what he said. I actually thought the Mark & Brian skit was kind of funny, but obviously Perry was not amused and had no problem letting everyone know it.
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Postby perryfaithful » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:21 pm

Thanks Barb for clarifying that! I thought the whole thing was funny too!
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Postby Monker » Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:22 am

What I should have said is that we didn't bring that part of the question into the discussion. You did because you wanted to create a controversy for which to blame the Perry fans.


I did because that is the ONE QUESTION that Perry answered that I did not like. When an artist is given a compliment like that I think they should reply to it...and the rest of his answer was divisive. No amount of argument from you is going to make me feel differenlty...in fact, it proves the point.

You went all nutso on the above point, and you continue to do so, probably because you know I am right and you don't like the fact that Perry screwed up. The only 'agenda' I had was to speak my mind about the question that was posted.

YOU are the one who went off on the Perry vs. Augeri thing, insulting Red 13, and fans, which had nothing to do with the posts prior to it.

And, even if I did try to create a 'controversy', which I was not, don't blame me for your own inept behavior and general lack of self-control.
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