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Re: VIP Packages

Postby Monker » Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:01 pm

Vinnie wrote:Do you think I like paying this kinda money for a concert these days. No I don't!! I'm making less per/hr than I was 5 years ago dude, and going to concerts, or any event today, is a major deal for me and probably most of us.
I wasn't able to see Journey last year cause the wife was ready to delivery, so I want to make up for lost time I guess. Plus knowing that this tour well include some their earlier stuff that I never heard before live, makes this even more exciting.

Dude, I remember thinking $25 was to much for what I paid a scalper during the Departure tour. So, I guess I rather see my favorite band for X amount of dollars, instead of it going through my exhaust pipe. Over and out.


That's your decision. Personaly, I can think of a LOT of other things I would rather do with $150 then spending three hours at a rock concert. If you think it's a doable thing, then go...I don't, and I won't.
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Re: VIP Packages

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:09 pm

Monker wrote: If you think it's a doable thing, then go...I don't, and I won't.


I'm gonna go, I just won't be paying that amount nor aquiring my tickets in that VIP all-access.com scam. I think on Back Talk, one of the mods has posted that the VIP price has now been reduced to 75 bucks or something. Still too much for me.
And to think just the other week I was mulling over the decision to wether or not part with 25 measly bucks to see SoulSirkus.
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Re: VIP Packages

Postby Vinnie » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:24 pm

Monker wrote:


That's your decision. Personaly, I can think of a LOT of other things I would rather do with $150 then spending three hours at a rock concert. If you think it's a doable thing, then go...I don't, and I won't.[/quote]

I won't be able to do the 5-Star, way to much money for what you get. But I would consider the 4-Star. Just waiting to see if my Clear Channel contact comes through first.
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Re: VIP Packages

Postby jrnyjetster » Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:47 am

Monker wrote: Personaly, I can think of a LOT of other things I would rather do with $150 then spending three hours at a rock concert.


OH Monker...come on...don't be such a cheap fuck! :P I've spent more than that from ticket brokers, reluctantly. It's the overall package you have to look at and I think it's actually a pretty good deal, if you think about it. You have to TREAT yourself once in awhile..buddy, live for TODAY! :wink: ENJOY! HAVE FUN!
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Re: VIP Packages

Postby Monker » Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:57 am

jrnyjetster wrote:
Monker wrote: Personaly, I can think of a LOT of other things I would rather do with $150 then spending three hours at a rock concert.


OH Monker...come on...don't be such a cheap fuck! :P I've spent more than that from ticket brokers, reluctantly. It's the overall package you have to look at and I think it's actually a pretty good deal, if you think about it. You have to TREAT yourself once in awhile..buddy, live for TODAY! :wink: ENJOY! HAVE FUN!


For $150, i can treat myself to a LOT more things that will last a LOT longer then a three hour rock concert.
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Postby yak » Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:47 am

Monker wrote:It's not resentment, I'm just not going to pay $150 for two tickets to see Journey, or any other band.


So...Monker...What? Does that mean the Mrs. has to get her girlfriends together now, and go with them? :wink:
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Postby mnmsjrny » Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:27 am

LAWoman wrote:Except if the U2 shows in Boston are anything like the U2 shows in the LA area--they sold out immediately so people were left with inflated ebay or thousand dollar broker tix. BTW, I notice the best ticket price for actual seats at the U2 Boston shows is $165. GA is great for a smallish venue, but sucks for large venues. You have to spend a lot of time waiting in line if you want to be able to see anything except the video screens. If I'm watching a vid screen I may as well be in a balcony seat. Have fun at the U2 show, but once again--stop comparing U2 to Journey. They obviously have different status in the market.


Well Barb, having *just* seen U2 in San Jose with GA tickets -- that I got thru Ticketmaster within 10 minutes after they went on sale (admittedly, the gods were smiling) -- the way they set it up, it's a good deal. Now, of course, I also got incredibly lucky and was randomly selected for inside the ellipse, thus was right at the foot of the main stage, but those people who were outside the ellipse were pretty close to Bono & The Edge when they went out there -- which was often. Plus I only had to wait in line for 2 hours -- got to the arena around 4, line started heading in around 6:15. I probably could have arrived later and had the same results.

That said, as to the VIP packages for Journey, if you do a little math, the prices are fairly reasonable. A concert ticket averages around $60, t-shirts are $35, CDs $18. That's $113. If the Wolf Trap prices hold more or less true for other venues, the extra $40 or so gets you in the first 10 rows. For some people it will be worth it, for others it won't. I haven't decided yet whether or not I'll take the packages. I'll likely buy one 4-star show, but like any ticket I buy, a lot will depend on where and when the show is.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:28 am

Here is the Ad for the 5 star package of the Stevie Nicks/Don Henley show:

"Once before they came together and brought you "Leather and Lace." Experience the magic again as Fleetwood Mac's mystical chanteuse Stevie Nicks, and Eagles founding member Don Henley join forces for a memorable evening of music - performing solo, and together!

Start your evening with VIP parking, enter the VIP entrance and join fellow fans at a pre-show party with food and drinks!** Pick up your gift bag with exclusive tour merchandise! Then off to a guaranteed seat in the first 10 rows to enjoy the show from the superstars who brought you "The Boys of Summer", "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around", "Dirty Laundry", "Stand Back", "The End of the Innocence", "Talk to Me" and so many, many more.

Each 5 Star package includes:


A Ticket in the First Ten (10) Rows*
5 Star Laminate
Gift bag with exclusive Stevie Nicks & Don Henley merchandise
VIP parking**
VIP entrance**
On-site concierge
Pre-show hospitality
Crowd-free merchandise shopping experience**

5 Star Package Price: 395.00 [Prices are in U.S. dollars]


*Exact seat locations available day of show only.
**where available


Gifts subject to change without notice. "
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Postby JourneyTroll » Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:25 pm

jrnyman28 wrote:Here is the Ad for the 5 star package of the Stevie Nicks/Don Henley show:

"Once before they came together and brought you "Leather and Lace." Experience the magic again as Fleetwood Mac's mystical chanteuse Stevie Nicks, and Eagles founding member Don Henley join forces for a memorable evening of music - performing solo, and together!

Start your evening with VIP parking, enter the VIP entrance and join fellow fans at a pre-show party with food and drinks!** Pick up your gift bag with exclusive tour merchandise! Then off to a guaranteed seat in the first 10 rows to enjoy the show from the superstars who brought you "The Boys of Summer", "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around", "Dirty Laundry", "Stand Back", "The End of the Innocence", "Talk to Me" and so many, many more.

Each 5 Star package includes:


A Ticket in the First Ten (10) Rows*
5 Star Laminate
Gift bag with exclusive Stevie Nicks & Don Henley merchandise
VIP parking**
VIP entrance**
On-site concierge
Pre-show hospitality
Crowd-free merchandise shopping experience**

5 Star Package Price: 395.00 [Prices are in U.S. dollars]


*Exact seat locations available day of show only.
**where available


Gifts subject to change without notice. "


Greedy Stevie and Henley aren't getting my money. I had a chance at two dead center seats in the fifteenth row for $250, and I passed.

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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun Apr 24, 2005 2:43 am

It's fine that you choose not to go. It is fine that you choose not to go to Journey. But you are not basing that decision on money apparantly.

The point is that these packages can be ridiculously expensive! Van Halen's were almost or over $400!

Henley/Nicks is near that as well!

Journey's are much less.

To some people it IS worth it. To others it is not! No big deal...it is not worth it to me. But I know Journey will do fine with it. And I know it could be worse!
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:03 am

From Back Talk:

"Each VIP Ticket Package will be priced according to many factors including local costs etc.

The VIP Ticket package is another option for you to get tickets. It guarantees tickets in the first 10 or 20 rows depending on which package you purchase.

Tickets will be available in the first 20 rows through the box office or ticketmaster as usual. Venue donors/season ticket holders will get their prime seats."
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Postby JourneyTroll » Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:57 am

jrnyman28 wrote:It's fine that you choose not to go. It is fine that you choose not to go to Journey. But you are not basing that decision on money apparantly.

The point is that these packages can be ridiculously expensive! Van Halen's were almost or over $400!

Henley/Nicks is near that as well!

Journey's are much less.

To some people it IS worth it. To others it is not! No big deal...it is not worth it to me. But I know Journey will do fine with it. And I know it could be worse!


I would never pay $400 to see Henley/Nicks, Van Hagar, Perry/Augeri, or anyone else.

I was on the Ticketsdotcom for Wolf Trap, and I could have had Front Center Orchestra, Row B, Seats for Wolf Trap. I passed.

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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:24 am

journeytroll wrote
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would never pay $400 to see Henley/Nicks, Van Hagar, Perry/Augeri, or anyone else.

I was on the Ticketsdotcom for Wolf Trap, and I could have had Front Center Orchestra, Row B, Seats for Wolf Trap. I passed.

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Ok, fine, and I KNOW you would pay 1000 bucks to see your precious U2 and your boyfriend, Bono.

And by the way, I know I have been harsh on Steve perry lately, but NEVER on his ability. That dude was worth 400 bones in the 80's...trust me. Perry was IMO, as good as front man ever..yes, including Mick, DLR and Elvis. Oh and another thing troll, I believe Perry was a level higher than Bono....You had to see Perry in his prime..before he turned into stone and went away..
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Postby yak » Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:33 am

JourneyTroll wrote: I could have had Front Center Orchestra, Row B, Seats for Wolf Trap. I passed.

Journeytroll


And your point is WHAT, Reardon???

So you passed...So what?

Use your money as toilet paper if you wish.


As for U2, they can't hold a candle to Journey. Personally, I'm sick of these foreign bands coming here...specifically for more money...and tax breaks...then shooting off their mouths about political issues, whatever they may be. They don't choose to live here, just come for the money, so they should Shut Up! Come here to do what you do, which is sing, and then be gone.

:roll: Somebody complained about sngrchk once for putting her wedding photo here, now you have this ridiculous U2 photo taking up space on a Journey board?
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Postby JourneyTroll » Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:42 am

yak wrote:
JourneyTroll wrote: I could have had Front Center Orchestra, Row B, Seats for Wolf Trap. I passed.

Journeytroll


And your point is WHAT, Reardon???

So you passed...So what?

Use your money as toilet paper if you wish.


As for U2, they can't hold a candle to Journey. Personally, I'm sick of these foreign bands coming here...specifically for more money...and tax breaks...then shooting off their mouths about political issues, whatever they may be. They don't choose to live here, just come for the money, so they should Shut Up! Come here to do what you do, which is sing, and then be gone.

:roll: Somebody complained about sngrchk once for putting her wedding photo here, now you have this ridiculous U2 photo taking up space on a Journey board?
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I'm not Reardon. I'm not Joe.

U2 is the better band. Here's the proof.

1. U2 songs get played on the radio more worldwide.
2. U2 tours the world. Journey tours Casinos, fairs, camp grounds, and redemption centers.
3. U2's current material gets played on the radio. Journey has no current material.
4. Since U2 aren't from the United States, they shouldn't be allowed to tour here?

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Postby yak » Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:48 am

JourneyTroll wrote:4. Since U2 aren't from the United States, they shouldn't be allowed to tour here?

Journeytroll


:roll: NOT what I said, Reardon! You need to go back and re-read what I DID say! :roll:

The only spinning allowed here is on a bicycle!

Talk about a fruit loop!
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Postby jrnyman28 » Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:09 am

JourneyTroll wrote:U2 is the better band. Here's the proof.

1. U2 songs get played on the radio more worldwide.
2. U2 tours the world. Journey tours Casinos, fairs, camp grounds, and redemption centers.
3. U2's current material gets played on the radio. Journey has no current material.
Journeytroll


All that adds up to "U2 is a more popular band." None of that equates to talent musically. It does point to talent promotionally however. And you will get no argument from me that Journey does not know how to really promote themselves.
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Postby JourneyTroll » Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:37 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:journeytroll wrote
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would never pay $400 to see Henley/Nicks, Van Hagar, Perry/Augeri, or anyone else.

I was on the Ticketsdotcom for Wolf Trap, and I could have had Front Center Orchestra, Row B, Seats for Wolf Trap. I passed.

Journeytroll



Ok, fine, and I KNOW you would pay 1000 bucks to see your precious U2 and your boyfriend, Bono.

And by the way, I know I have been harsh on Steve perry lately, but NEVER on his ability. That dude was worth 400 bones in the 80's...trust me. Perry was IMO, as good as front man ever..yes, including Mick, DLR and Elvis. Oh and another thing troll, I believe Perry was a level higher than Bono....You had to see Perry in his prime..before he turned into stone and went away..[/quote]

More personal attacks from Rock 'n Deano. I paid face value to see U2.

The VIP price for Journey might be fine for one concert if you really like them. However, if you plan on attending more than one concert, you will be getting the same extras.

I go to a concert just to see the band. No shirt. No meetings. No autographs. People had the chance of getting great seats at Wolftrap at face value instead of $150 per ticket.

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Postby JourneyTroll » Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:41 pm

yak wrote:
JourneyTroll wrote:4. Since U2 aren't from the United States, they shouldn't be allowed to tour here?

Journeytroll


:roll: NOT what I said, Reardon! You need to go back and re-read what I DID say! :roll:

The only spinning allowed here is on a bicycle!

Talk about a fruit loop!


Why do you continue calling me Reardon? Why do you have to resort to personal attacks by calling me a fruit loop? You aren't supposed to personally attack a poster on this board, and I know you would never do that on the other board.

Is it my fault that Journey's VIP package doesn't impress me?

U2 pays more taxes than Journey since their income is much higher.
U2 is in the rock 'n roll hall of fame, while the decision makers and not me have decided an emphatic no to Journey being nominated.

Have a great day,
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Postby JourneyTroll » Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:46 pm

jrnyman28 wrote:
JourneyTroll wrote:U2 is the better band. Here's the proof.

1. U2 songs get played on the radio more worldwide.
2. U2 tours the world. Journey tours Casinos, fairs, camp grounds, and redemption centers.
3. U2's current material gets played on the radio. Journey has no current material.
Journeytroll


All that adds up to "U2 is a more popular band." None of that equates to talent musically. It does point to talent promotionally however. And you will get no argument from me that Journey does not know how to really promote themselves.


4. Dave, U2 is the rock 'n roll hall of fame. Journey isn't. Are you saying there is a "Journey Conspiracy" for them not being in the hall of fame? U2's musical talent is evident since their sound or style changes. Whether U2 plays a ballad or rocker, the music critics and music lovers apprecriate U2's efforts. Meanwhile, Journey has to play a "nostalgic angle" to draw people to their concerts.

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Postby jrnyman28 » Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:04 am

JourneyTroll wrote:4. Dave, U2 is the rock 'n roll hall of fame. Journey isn't. Are you saying there is a "Journey Conspiracy" for them not being in the hall of fame? U2's musical talent is evident since their sound or style changes. Whether U2 plays a ballad or rocker, the music critics and music lovers apprecriate U2's efforts. Meanwhile, Journey has to play a "nostalgic angle" to draw people to their concerts.

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I do not believe there is any "Journey conspiracy" concerning the RNRHOF.
It is simple, the artists that get elected to the HOF are usually on one or two specific record companies. Those companies politic the music world. This is not really about music, sales, tours or popularity anymore...it is politics and promotion. Only the groups that no longer exist, or are truly considered forefathers to something, get in based on accomplishments. Journey was never about music politics...it is about music. Sadly, the only way I see Journey getting in is if the reunite for a farewell tour with Perry. As long as Journey keeps touring and putting out music, they will not get in. IMO.

But to clarify, the RNRHOF still does not mean "better". The RNRHOF is not much different than the Grammy's.......
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Postby JourneyTroll » Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:21 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
JourneyTroll wrote:4. Dave, U2 is the rock 'n roll hall of fame. Journey isn't. Are you saying there is a "Journey Conspiracy" for them not being in the hall of fame? U2's musical talent is evident since their sound or style changes. Whether U2 plays a ballad or rocker, the music critics and music lovers apprecriate U2's efforts. Meanwhile, Journey has to play a "nostalgic angle" to draw people to their concerts.

Journeytroll


I do not believe there is any "Journey conspiracy" concerning the RNRHOF.
It is simple, the artists that get elected to the HOF are usually on one or two specific record companies. Those companies politic the music world. This is not really about music, sales, tours or popularity anymore...it is politics and promotion. Only the groups that no longer exist, or are truly considered forefathers to something, get in based on accomplishments. Journey was never about music politics...it is about music. Sadly, the only way I see Journey getting in is if the reunite for a farewell tour with Perry. As long as Journey keeps touring and putting out music, they will not get in. IMO.

But to clarify, the RNRHOF still does not mean "better". The RNRHOF is not much different than the Grammy's.......


Nice try. Journey belonged to SONY at one time. It's not politics getting into the rock hall of fame. Instead, the committee selects the bands that belong into it each year.

Journey was a great band many, many years ago, but they are not hall of fame worthy. Remember this is only my opinion, yet the hall of fame feels the same way.

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Postby jrnyman28 » Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:14 am

JourneyTroll wrote:Journey belonged to SONY at one time.


But they do not anymore. Therefore, Sony will not campaign to have Journey nominated to the RNRHOF. It is that simple.

JourneyTroll wrote:It's not politics getting into the rock hall of fame. Instead, the committee selects the bands that belong into it each year.


But it takes campaigning by the record companies to create the list and the inductions.
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Postby JourneyTroll » Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:23 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
JourneyTroll wrote:Journey belonged to SONY at one time.


But they do not anymore. Therefore, Sony will not campaign to have Journey nominated to the RNRHOF. It is that simple.

JourneyTroll wrote:It's not politics getting into the rock hall of fame. Instead, the committee selects the bands that belong into it each year.


But it takes campaigning by the record companies to create the list and the inductions.


So it a "Sony conspiracy" that Journey is not in the Hall of Fame. When the Rolling Stones changed record labels, they were a first year choice in the HOF.

The HOF has done a great job of selecting the worthy performers/bands into the HOF, while weeding out the undesirables like Journey.

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