Revisiting Jeff's "Lost In The Translation" Album

[Carlitto H@kk]

Since I got "Lost In The Translation" from iTunes last year,
I had taken in the majority of listens while driving in my car or
while doing things at work. Because of that, I never really "listened"
to this album... until recently.

Lately I have been truly listening and absorbing this album thru my
Bose Triports while doing lawn work or at the gym and have discovered
a few things that I just thought I'd share. I'm curious as to what others might think.

First off, this album is more amazing than I originally thought. And it's not just
the songs or the production (all killer, no filler). It's even more amazing now
because I can almost hear where Journey has the potential to go.
I could hear songs like Find Our Way, If This Is The End and, of course, Believe In Me
on a future Journey release without losing any of their freshness and edge. Hell, anyone else
notice that you can pratically sing AWYWI to the chorus of High Time?
Anyone worried that Jeff can't write Journey-Style tunes take notice.

Secondly, the musicianship on this album is incredible. Now, since I got this album from iTunes,
I don't have the liner-notes to know who's playing guitar on each song. I know Neal is on BIM.
But how are the guitar duties/parts split up between Gary and Howie? There are some really amazing
riffs/solos throughout this album. And I guess I had no idea that Jeff was as talented on the Bass as he is.
You can hear many influences throughout this album as well; Journey, Queen... But one influence or
'comparison" I heard was actually a real treat. Some may not like this or agree with what I
think I heard but...

My third discovery was that alot of songs, melodies and guitar playing on this album
reminded me of one of my own favorite albums of the early 90's:
Extreme's "III-Sided Story". Some of you may take that as a diss to Jeff if you hated this band but
I mean it in the sincerest form of compliment. There is some riff-age and solo work on this
album that harkens back to some of Nuno's greatest playing. Anyone thinking that comparing some of
Howie and Garys' playing to Nuno's as a diss is out of their minds.
And the big vocal harmonies and lead vocal work; I could hear Cherone singing some of these tracks.
Again, I mean this in the sincerest for of a compliment.
I just wonder if Jeff, Gary and Howie were ever big fans of Extreme or this album?
Heck, Sacred Eyes is very remeniscent of Hole-Hearted.

Anyway, those are some of the things I've re-discovered about this
amazing album and just wanted to share with you all.

[MCC620]

Hey Carl! You may be the only one who cares, but I love this cd. I think it showcases JSS's talent. I think it falls more in line with Soul SirKus (which for the record I also loved) than Journey, however.

[Deb]

That was the first solo cd I got of his. And it's still my favorite, gets more airplay than Prism, Essential Ballads or any of the others. It's one of those cds you can just put on and let play without having to skip over songs. Agree with your take on Sacred Eyes too, it does. Actually had Dulce Lady and Soul Divine (a couple favorites) just blaring yesterday. His solo and the Journey sound is going to mix soooooooo well.....can't wait!

I noticed on the JSS site, he has a little bit about what each song on Talisman 7 is about, I like reading that kind of stuff. One of my favorite Perry interviews I heard was one where he talks about where each of the StreetTalk songs kind of came from. Hey Jeff, would love to hear about some of the songs on Lost in Translation, any where on the web to find that?

[Carlitto H@kk]

I noticed on the JSS site, he has a little bit about what each song on Talisman 7 is about, I like reading that kind of stuff. Hey Jeff, would love to hear about some of the songs on Lost in Translation, any where on the web to find that?

That would be pretty cool. I wonder if High Time's
AWYWI-sounding chorus was accidental or on purpose?

[brywool]

Thought you were talking about the bill murray movie. GOD what a waste that was...

[Carlitto H@kk]

Thought you were talking about the bill murray movie. GOD what a waste that was...

There, changed the thread title so that won't happen again

[conversationpc]

Thought you were talking about the bill murray movie. GOD what a waste that was...

There, changed the thread title so that won't happen again

I know it's nit-picking but it's actually "Lost in the Translation".

[Carlitto H@kk]

Thought you were talking about the bill murray movie. GOD what a waste that was...

There, changed the thread title so that won't happen again

I know it's nit-picking but it's actually "Lost in the Translation".

Ah, Fuck Me, Dave
Ok, changed the title AGAIN

I don't know why I bothered anyway.
Looks like not many people interested in my thoughts
or discussion anyway

[conversationpc]

Ah, Fuck Me, Dave

Not interested, thanks.

Ok, changed the title AGAIN

Thanks.

I don't know why I bothered anyway.
Looks like not many people interested in my thoughts
or discussion anyway

"Lost in THE Translation" is one of the better albums I've purchased in the last few years. I love it, especially the songs you mentioned in particular.

[conversationpc]

I like what one reviewer on amazon.com said about the album in their closing paragraph...

If you long for the days were musicians actually sang, played their own instruments, wrote catchy songs, and played in standard tuning; look no further then Jeff Scott Soto.

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

I like what one reviewer on amazon.com said about the album in their closing paragraph...

If you long for the days were musicians actually sang, played their own instruments, wrote catchy songs, and played in standard tuning; look no further then Jeff Scott Soto.

exactly.

I'm interested, Carl. not in the f*** me part. won't your wife get mad?

anywho, LITT is one of my top 5 album purchases of all time. I even like the ballads!!!! (top 5 cuz I change my mind about my favorite sometimes daily.)

I have to go to wirk-----I'll get to specifics later................

[Melissa]

Guitar duties--

Gary- High Time, Sacred Eyes

Howie- Soul Divine, Drowning, If This Is The End (Jeff also), Lost In The Translation, Doin Time, On My Own, Find Our Way, Dulce Lady

Beginning 2 End lists Jeff & Alex Llorens on guitar.

Love this cd

[Carlitto H@kk]

[
I'm interested, Carl. not in the f*** me part. won't your wife get mad?

Ok, for Deb and Dave...
The "Ah, F*** Me" comment was NOT to be taken literally
I should've just said "Dammit!" but got carried away!

Well, at least you grabbed my butt once, Deb

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

[
I'm interested, Carl. not in the f*** me part. won't your wife get mad?

Ok, for Deb and Dave...
The "Ah, F*** Me" comment was NOT to be taken literally
I should've just said "Dammit!" but got carried away!

Well, at least you grabbed my butt once, Deb

shhhhhhhh. what happens at Soul SirkUS stays at SS.

snapped immediately after said grab. Look how happy you are!!!



what was the thread topic??????????

DULCE LADY is far and away the best.

[Deb]

DULCE LADY is far and away the best.

Great taste, Deb.

[SunshineTwilight]

DULCE LADY is far and away the best.

Great taste, Deb.

I second that!

[*Laura]

First off, this album is more amazing than I originally thought. And it's not just
the songs or the production (all killer, no filler). It's even more amazing now
because I can almost hear where Journey has the potential to go.

LIIT is definitely one of the best albums out there,I was really impressed and it didn't have to grow on me or something - loved it since audition #1.
"Believe In Me" is the BGTY of this album!What a song!
If that's a proof of Jeff & Neal's writing chemistry,I can only expect a killer new Journey album!


Btw,you're right about Sacred Eyes,Carlitto..Extreme is what popped in my mind also and loved it (I also love Extreme,always did )

[Carlitto H@kk]

Btw,you're right about Sacred Eyes,Carlitto..Extreme is what popped in my mind also and loved it (I also love Extreme,always did )

So can you hear what I heard, in regards to alot of Nuno-esque guitar riff-age
and vocal melodies/harmonies reminiscent to the III-Sided Story album
throughout the entire LITT album??? Listening again today I even noticed
that Find Our Way has a little Color Me Blind feel to it...

[JSS]

I'll get back to this one, too much to discuss & I gotta get to the gym!!!

[Carlitto H@kk]

I'll get back to this one, too much to discuss & I gotta get to the gym!!!

Thanks Jeff. Just don't blast me for the Extreme comparison

[*Laura]

Btw,you're right about Sacred Eyes,Carlitto..Extreme is what popped in my mind also and loved it (I also love Extreme,always did )

So can you hear what I heard, in regards to alot of Nuno-esque guitar riff-age
and vocal melodies/harmonies reminiscent to the III-Sided Story album
throughout the entire LITT album??? Listening again today I even noticed
that Find Our Way has a little Color Me Blind feel to it...

You have good ears,Carlitto... "III Sides To Every Story" has a certain kind of feel to it and I can sure hear some elements from it on LITT.
However,truth to be said - and I'm not saying this because Jeff might read this - I like LIIT much more that Extreme's album.
"III Sides" has a few powerful songs that stick in one's mind,but otherwise is a mish-mash of ideas (love the all the solos and guitar work on it,tho,Nuno is genius ),while LIIT is a very well thought out album from the 1st song until the last.It has a great unity and there really are no fillers on it.

Yes,I hear the "Color Me Blind" feel on "Find Our Way",but just like the whole album,I like FOW much better - that chorus is just perfect!
Jeff's and Cherone's vocals are somewhat similar,I like both on those 2 songs,can't decide...

Like someone said sometime ago here,a "Hole Hearted" style song written for the new Journey CD would be great.
Jeff would do a great job on it and I'm sure it would sound Journey-esque enough but fresh at the same time.Just a thought.


p.s. I have to log out now,but I'll be back later to tell you if I can sing AWYWI to High Time... God have mercy on my neighbors.

[Deb]

Like someone said sometime ago here,a "Hole Hearted" style song written for the new Journey CD would be great.
Jeff would do a great job on it and I'm sure it would sound Journey-esque enough but fresh at the same time.Just a thought.

Agreed Shania. And thanks Jeff for thinking about getting back to this one, really interested on what your thoughts were behind a few of these LITT songs.

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

Like someone said sometime ago here,a "Hole Hearted" style song written for the new Journey CD would be great.
Jeff would do a great job on it and I'm sure it would sound Journey-esque enough but fresh at the same time.Just a thought.

Agreed Shania. And thanks Jeff for thinking about getting back to this one, really interested on what your thoughts were behind a few of these LITT songs.

well, we know for sure that DULCE LADY is secret code for Debbie. hehe Howie sez it is a Whitesnake nod.

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

.............. & I gotta get to the gym!!!

thank you so much for the reminder. I shoulda skipped the fried okra.....dang

[txfirefighter]

LITT is my fave of Jeff's solo work. I really like "High Time".......kind of an anthem like chorus....reminds me of the good old arena rock days! As much as I am chomping at the bit for a new Journey disc, I do hope sometime in the future we will still get to hear some of Jeff's solo stuff live. *ducking*

[Melissa]

LITT is my fave of Jeff's solo work. I really like "High Time".......kind of an anthem like chorus....reminds me of the good old arena rock days! As much as I am chomping at the bit for a new Journey disc, I do hope sometime in the future we will still get to hear some of Jeff's solo stuff live. *ducking*

I'm ducking with you because I want to too!

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

LITT is my fave of Jeff's solo work. I really like "High Time".......kind of an anthem like chorus....reminds me of the good old arena rock days! As much as I am chomping at the bit for a new Journey disc, I do hope sometime in the future we will still get to hear some of Jeff's solo stuff live. *ducking*

I'm ducking with you because I want to too!

<ducking likewise>

[chf34jmac]

I don't know why you guys are ducking. The Journey guys all do side projects. Why would the rule be different for JSS?

[Deb]

As much as I am chomping at the bit for a new Journey disc, I do hope sometime in the future we will still get to hear some of Jeff's solo stuff live. *ducking*

Don't duck you're not the only one.

Dulce Lady - Deb, you're hilarious!

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

I don't know why you guys are ducking. The Journey guys all do side projects. Why would the rule be different for JSS?

I guess cuz it is a Journey forum huh?