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RPM wrote:Its his fault that his voice changed as he grew older? or that he dont need the money like the others?
your a moron.
Ray
bradwjensen wrote:RPM wrote:Its his fault that his voice changed as he grew older? or that he dont need the money like the others?
your a moron.
Ray
He's not singing cause his voice sucks! why the hell? He's just lazy.
His voice is as good as it ever was when it comes down to the majority of listeners - no one would even notice a difference.
I never said crap about his voice changing in my first post anyways? so u obviously just want to start shit or something here for bringing that up cause anyone in their right mind would know just cause his voice wasn't at his top level (which it never always was) wouldn't make him up and quit all together.{/quote]
Ok..... let me see. If you know your Perry history.......... Perry is a perfectionist. If his voice, etc, isn't to his liking, he won't put out a product. He is his own worst critic if you will. Perry quit because of 1), a hip injury, and 2), which is my own opinion, is that it might be possible that Perry didn't want to tour extensively. It isn't all Perry's fault that he isn't in Journey anymore. You have to realize that there were inner tensions, clashes of ego, etc, within the band that could of played a part of his decision to leave, or 3), Neal and Jon made it clear to Perry to shit or get off the pot. Neal and Jon wanted to tour, and after the last time Perry stopped Journey ( for about 10 years), they didn't want to wait too much longer.It's not like he never sang when his voice wasn't at his TOP level, oh god.
In my opinion he deserves some money for the fact of all his writing and commitment in the PAST! but since he doesn't do shit anymore why should he still get paid much anymore? Thats like you working a job for a few years then up and quitting and still getting paid forever for the work you ONCE did for the company..
Also, You calling me a moron is just childish.
Clasicrockldy wrote:bradwjensen wrote:RPM wrote:Its his fault that his voice changed as he grew older? or that he dont need the money like the others?
your a moron.
Ray
He's not singing cause his voice sucks! why the hell? He's just lazy.
His voice is as good as it ever was when it comes down to the majority of listeners - no one would even notice a difference.
Make up your mind about Perry's voice. Does it suck or is it as good as ever? I think you need a class in constructing sentences to say what you really mean.I never said crap about his voice changing in my first post anyways? so u obviously just want to start shit or something here for bringing that up cause anyone in their right mind would know just cause his voice wasn't at his top level (which it never always was) wouldn't make him up and quit all together.{/quote]
Ok..... let me see. If you know your Perry history.......... Perry is a perfectionist. If his voice, etc, isn't to his liking, he won't put out a product. He is his own worst critic if you will. Perry quit because of 1), a hip injury, and 2), which is my own opinion, is that it might be possible that Perry didn't want to tour extensively. It isn't all Perry's fault that he isn't in Journey anymore. You have to realize that there were inner tensions, clashes of ego, etc, within the band that could of played a part of his decision to leave, or 3), Neal and Jon made it clear to Perry to shit or get off the pot. Neal and Jon wanted to tour, and after the last time Perry stopped Journey ( for about 10 years), they didn't want to wait too much longer.It's not like he never sang when his voice wasn't at his TOP level, oh god.
In my opinion he deserves some money for the fact of all his writing and commitment in the PAST! but since he doesn't do shit anymore why should he still get paid much anymore? Thats like you working a job for a few years then up and quitting and still getting paid forever for the work you ONCE did for the company..
Also, You calling me a moron is just childish.
He still gets paid for the songs performed at the concerts, on the radio airplay, and cd/dvd sales. Perry got Journey into a contract where he will get paid as long as Journey tours.
I see from your avatar, you are a very young man/boy. If I were you........and this is friendly advice........ I wouldn't come out the gate with possible "baiting" tactics , or misconstrue a post made in answer to your post by another person. Acutally, what I am saying is, know your info and think before you post.![]()
bradwjensen wrote:Clasicrockldy wrote:bradwjensen wrote:RPM wrote:Its his fault that his voice changed as he grew older? or that he dont need the money like the others?
your a moron.
Ray
He's not singing cause his voice sucks! why the hell? He's just lazy.
His voice is as good as it ever was when it comes down to the majority of listeners - no one would even notice a difference.
Make up your mind about Perry's voice. Does it suck or is it as good as ever? I think you need a class in constructing sentences to say what you really mean.I never said crap about his voice changing in my first post anyways? so u obviously just want to start shit or something here for bringing that up cause anyone in their right mind would know just cause his voice wasn't at his top level (which it never always was) wouldn't make him up and quit all together.{/quote]
Ok..... let me see. If you know your Perry history.......... Perry is a perfectionist. If his voice, etc, isn't to his liking, he won't put out a product. He is his own worst critic if you will. Perry quit because of 1), a hip injury, and 2), which is my own opinion, is that it might be possible that Perry didn't want to tour extensively. It isn't all Perry's fault that he isn't in Journey anymore. You have to realize that there were inner tensions, clashes of ego, etc, within the band that could of played a part of his decision to leave, or 3), Neal and Jon made it clear to Perry to shit or get off the pot. Neal and Jon wanted to tour, and after the last time Perry stopped Journey ( for about 10 years), they didn't want to wait too much longer.It's not like he never sang when his voice wasn't at his TOP level, oh god.
In my opinion he deserves some money for the fact of all his writing and commitment in the PAST! but since he doesn't do shit anymore why should he still get paid much anymore? Thats like you working a job for a few years then up and quitting and still getting paid forever for the work you ONCE did for the company..
Also, You calling me a moron is just childish.
He still gets paid for the songs performed at the concerts, on the radio airplay, and cd/dvd sales. Perry got Journey into a contract where he will get paid as long as Journey tours.
I see from your avatar, you are a very young man/boy. If I were you........and this is friendly advice........ I wouldn't come out the gate with possible "baiting" tactics , or misconstrue a post made in answer to your post by another person. Acutally, what I am saying is, know your info and think before you post.![]()
Well, just to say i have read all that info u told me in those posts before about him being a perfectionist and how he says on fanasylum that he is his biggest critic.. I also know he stated he needed hip surgery before the TBF tour, and ive read also Herbie Herbert's interview too. It's just my opinion though that the man is lazy these days.. just cause he doesn't want to tour doesn't mean he cant make music, and i also think that if he thinks he has to sing the best he's ever been to be able to sing once more, rather than close to it - even solo, then he has problems. im kool with him doing what he wants and not singing anymore, power to him i guess.. or not..? what my 1st post was trying to say was Perry's gone, the band Journey (as in current band members) need to move from Perry and make new music with someone else, theres more people with good voices, and Journeys music has almost always been awesome itself. I think Journey should move on. Thats what my original post was stating. whether they call it Journey or something else IDC, they just need to move on and make some rocking new music!! If people want to hear the Perry songs they can buy the CD's and listen to them everyday like i do..
bradwjensen wrote:You guys - i'm not stupid, but with the way everyone here talking to me seems to think someones dumb just cause they don't post much or state everything about Journeys past to prove they've also spent countless hours reading interviews, and watching videos on youtube with interviews and all that stuff doesn't mean they haven't. I like reading this site and all the interesting things that come up and funny comments, but it's really starting to bug me how you people talking to me so far think you know more than someone else who's (with little posting here) spend just as much effort in a period of time as you have to learn and love the band..
Journey is my Favorite band, Steve Perry is my favorite singer and songwritter (the stuff touches my heart), i listen to all their songs EVERYDAY which i have all the remastered cds that i payed for including all of Perry's too and ive spent countless hours (probably days by now) for the love of it reading articles and learning as much as possible about the bands history and present (thats why i'm here).. but u people just shit on me because you seem to think you know more, and/or you don't give a damn what others think, only what you think..
I was trying to join in on this kool forum and bring in my ideas one step at a time but whatever, guess im just not wanted here cause i've got different ideas.
Peace!
I'll just read every now and then to see if something kool comes up with the band or not.
bradwjensen wrote:You guys - i'm not stupid, but with the way everyone here talking to me seems to think someones dumb just cause they don't post much or state everything about Journeys past to prove they've also spent countless hours reading interviews, and watching videos on youtube with interviews and all that stuff doesn't mean they haven't. I like reading this site and all the interesting things that come up and funny comments, but it's really starting to bug me how you people talking to me so far think you know more than someone else who's (with little posting here) spend just as much effort in a period of time as you have to learn and love the band..
Journey is my Favorite band, Steve Perry is my favorite singer and songwritter (the stuff touches my heart), i listen to all their songs EVERYDAY which i have all the remastered cds that i payed for including all of Perry's too and ive spent countless hours (probably days by now) for the love of it reading articles and learning as much as possible about the bands history and present (thats why i'm here).. but u people just shit on me because you seem to think you know more, and/or you don't give a damn what others think, only what you think..
I was trying to join in on this kool forum and bring in my ideas one step at a time but whatever, guess im just not wanted here cause i've got different ideas.
Peace!
I'll just read every now and then to see if something kool comes up with the band or not.
squirt1 wrote:Brad-I think of Journey as a rollercoaster. I did not realize that you were catching up. Sorry. I look at the bottom begining as earlier than 78, then it started to take off with Perry. By 81 stadiums, hits radio,albums to '83. Then Perry took a break till ROR '86. Again huge and he took years off. But this band has always been about Perry's voice and writing abilities w jon & Neal but Jeff had a real chance to ease our pain. So he was let go,probably because he could have been somewhat like Perry as far as huge popularity. And Herbie, he was really great, but later on very embittered. If Perry was to walk on that stage again, the prices would be like the Stones. Remember all those millions of records were generated 77-83-then '86 & '96. So ,Perry worked 8yrs over 20 yrs and they sold 80 mil last I read. If you want to find out from an oldie ,I can help some. You will love Andrew's site.
Soto All The Way wrote:People here do know a bit more about certain things about the band here. Definately more than you from you comments. I would sit back and read and not jump and say this is and that is that. Bottom line, many of us have talked to band members, band associates and so forth and have shared that information with each other. It's a prevy that we all cherish and keep to our selves. You came here stating what you thought you knew and it just isn't that way brother.....Sorry. Read and chill.
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squirt1 wrote:Brad ,on a complete different tangent- this is info I need to know. What bands of the 90's could fill stadiums? 80's Journey 5 x in the Rose Bowl& I think BonJovi, Queen and Aerosmith .To this day, around the world Aerosmith and BonJovi still compete in South America and Eurpope and if Freddie was still here look out. Yes, I know about Springstein & the Rolling Stones. I just want to compare the 80's with the 90's to now. I am always learning.
squirt1 wrote:Rick- How much would you pay? To relive the 80's Journey $300.00 to sit in the last seat in the stadium, for me. I know many any would pay more.
bradwjensen wrote:
It's ok, and thanks for caring but i think ill just keep my mouth shut most of the time.. All i was saying is i wish Neal and them would get their shit together and realize Perry is gone, they don't need a dude sounding like him to make money and fans.. they need to make some more music a little different than before, more on a Def Leppard / Danger Danger route for sound. I think they'd then be huge with the kids of today - along with the older guys. They'd rock with Neal's amazing guitar skills.. idk how the rest of the band would be with it, but i know Neal would rip and they'd come out of this hole over time with something completely new like that.. no doubt! I loved "Believe In Me" soo much when i found a link to it on this site! i was actually psyched to get the next Journey CD that came out, i wasn't really a fan of the other steve cause he sounded a little crispy in a bad way.. His voice just kind of turned me off. JSS was great after awhile - at first i was like idk... then as he did more he got great, and he worked perfectly with the "Believe In Me" sound with Neal. They were on their way.. eh ill shut up now.
Lata!
Rick wrote:squirt1 wrote:Rick- How much would you pay? To relive the 80's Journey $300.00 to sit in the last seat in the stadium, for me. I know many any would pay more.
If I could see the Escape concert again, as it was, I'd pay a lot, a whole lot. That was the best concert I've ever been to.
NoMoJo wrote:Rick wrote:squirt1 wrote:Rick- How much would you pay? To relive the 80's Journey $300.00 to sit in the last seat in the stadium, for me. I know many any would pay more.
If I could see the Escape concert again, as it was, I'd pay a lot, a whole lot. That was the best concert I've ever been to.
I would rather get a PPV or DVD of any show. My home digital theatre system is way better than a live show, anyways. Yeah.. the keg is close by and the bathroom is just down the hall. The best part is there isn't some tone deaf sweaty and smelly fat ass right behind me screaming in my ear, either. I can do without that.
Rick wrote:NoMoJo wrote:Rick wrote:squirt1 wrote:Rick- How much would you pay? To relive the 80's Journey $300.00 to sit in the last seat in the stadium, for me. I know many any would pay more.
If I could see the Escape concert again, as it was, I'd pay a lot, a whole lot. That was the best concert I've ever been to.
I would rather get a PPV or DVD of any show. My home digital theatre system is way better than a live show, anyways. Yeah.. the keg is close by and the bathroom is just down the hall. The best part is there isn't some tone deaf sweaty and smelly fat ass right behind me screaming in my ear, either. I can do without that.
That's ok for you, but the live experience is a whole other aspect. You can't get the energy of the crowd in your living room. It all adds up to the complete package.
Rick wrote:I think if Perry is fronting Journey, they could fill any venue.
fredinator wrote:Brad, I really enjoyed your posts!! Pretty refreshing actually. You left Prince out of your lengthy list--what do you think about him? How about Amy Winehouse? Have you heard any of her songs? Is anyone lurking/posting from the UK going to any of those Prince concerts he is going to have at the Millenium Dome(??) ? If so, would love to hear how they are; I think Amy Winehouse is going to do some of his shows, too...
(I am a Prince Loon; there are a couple of others on this board that are PL's, too.)
Nancy
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