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Postby Memorex » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:15 am

Any Marillion fans out there. I'll warn you that while I do like a lot of the Fish-era stuff (especially the last two), I am a huge Hogarth fan. HUGE. To me, this music is another level. Unfortunately, it's spoiled me to the degree that I can't even listen to a lot of 80's stuff that I used to swear by. I've lots to discuss if anyone wants to join in my thread here.

Also, Deano looks like Fish to me, in some ways.
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Re: OT: Marillion

Postby larryfromnextdoor » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:24 am

Memorex wrote:Any Marillion fans out there. I'll warn you that while I do like a lot of the Fish-era stuff (especially the last two), I am a huge Hogarth fan. HUGE. To me, this music is another level. Unfortunately, it's spoiled me to the degree that I can't even listen to a lot of 80's stuff that I used to swear by. I've lots to discuss if anyone wants to join in my thread here.

Also, Deano looks like Fish to me, in some ways.


nope,, no marillion fans.. :wink:

i have a DEAD fan friend.. he has written 2 books about the DEAD.. im tired of them.. Fish, Marillion ,, and all that other stuff you guys listen too... 8) King Crimson.. etc.... :D
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:25 am

I'm a pretty big Marillion fan, but I'm going to be honest and say I've only listened to Fish-era so far. I've been meaning to try out Hogarth but haven't bought an album yet.

LOVE Misplaced Childhood and Clutching at Straws especially.... two of my favorite albums of all time.

Fish-era Marillion is the type of music that really connects to me on a whole different level, it takes me to a different place much in the way that a lot of Journey and Rush music does.
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Postby Memorex » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:26 am

I'm not a Dead fan. But Marillion still puts out new stuff. And it's put out the way it should be - 15 months or 2 years of writing and recording. It's not this 2 or 3 month stuff that's out now.
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Re: OT: Marillion

Postby ProgRocker53 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:26 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Memorex wrote:Any Marillion fans out there. I'll warn you that while I do like a lot of the Fish-era stuff (especially the last two), I am a huge Hogarth fan. HUGE. To me, this music is another level. Unfortunately, it's spoiled me to the degree that I can't even listen to a lot of 80's stuff that I used to swear by. I've lots to discuss if anyone wants to join in my thread here.

Also, Deano looks like Fish to me, in some ways.


nope,, no marillion fans.. :wink:

i have a DEAD fan friend.. he has written 2 books about the DEAD.. im tired of them.. Fish, Marillion ,, and all that other stuff you guys listen too... 8) King Crimson.. etc.... :D


You have insulted everything I stand for. :lol:
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Postby Memorex » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:28 am

If you decide to venture in to the Hogarth-era, just know you need to sample a wide variety of songs. There is a lot of slower moody stuff, some fast stuff. There is so much out there. When you are ready, contact me and I will hook you up.
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Re: OT: Marillion

Postby larryfromnextdoor » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:30 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Memorex wrote:Any Marillion fans out there. I'll warn you that while I do like a lot of the Fish-era stuff (especially the last two), I am a huge Hogarth fan. HUGE. To me, this music is another level. Unfortunately, it's spoiled me to the degree that I can't even listen to a lot of 80's stuff that I used to swear by. I've lots to discuss if anyone wants to join in my thread here.

Also, Deano looks like Fish to me, in some ways.


nope,, no marillion fans.. :wink:

i have a DEAD fan friend.. he has written 2 books about the DEAD.. im tired of them.. Fish, Marillion ,, and all that other stuff you guys listen too... 8) King Crimson.. etc.... :D


You have insulted everything I stand for. :lol:


:lol: sorry,, just joking man...i honestly dont see how you guys include Journey into your fold..

an ex-poser, ballad , radio heavy guitar driven band.. ......dont fit.. :wink:
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Postby Memorex » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:35 am

I think this is why I am more Hogarth-era oriented.

I like many, many types of music. Journey used to be my favorite band and then Marillion took that spot. You have to have patience for Marillion though. It's a process. But once you get hooked, you are hooked forever.
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Re: OT: Marillion

Postby ProgRocker53 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:37 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Memorex wrote:Any Marillion fans out there. I'll warn you that while I do like a lot of the Fish-era stuff (especially the last two), I am a huge Hogarth fan. HUGE. To me, this music is another level. Unfortunately, it's spoiled me to the degree that I can't even listen to a lot of 80's stuff that I used to swear by. I've lots to discuss if anyone wants to join in my thread here.

Also, Deano looks like Fish to me, in some ways.


nope,, no marillion fans.. :wink:

i have a DEAD fan friend.. he has written 2 books about the DEAD.. im tired of them.. Fish, Marillion ,, and all that other stuff you guys listen too... 8) King Crimson.. etc.... :D


You have insulted everything I stand for. :lol:


:lol: sorry,, just joking man...i honestly dont see how you guys include Journey into your fold..

an ex-poser, ballad , radio heavy guitar driven band.. ......dont fit.. :wink:


Journey was an experimental psych/prog band first and foremost, and have retained that influence throughout their career, in some songs and albums more than others.

Plus, c'mon, up until TBF they only had two ballads per album TOPS. And radio play/album sales doesn't take away legitimacy nor add to it, if a band kicks ass they kick ass, and Journey kicks ass my friend.
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Postby Memorex » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:41 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:I'm a pretty big Marillion fan, but I'm going to be honest and say I've only listened to Fish-era so far. I've been meaning to try out Hogarth but haven't bought an album yet.

LOVE Misplaced Childhood and Clutching at Straws especially.... two of my favorite albums of all time.

Fish-era Marillion is the type of music that really connects to me on a whole different level, it takes me to a different place much in the way that a lot of Journey and Rush music does.


Did you see this recent reunion? http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ffsQ0WzmXPE
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Postby Memorex » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:44 am

When you have time, drink a half-glass of wine, relax, and give yourself 6 or 7 minutes to listen to this song. Repeat as needed.

Afraid of Sunlight (Live) 1999

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nVPE6EOreFw
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Postby Memorex » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:49 am

When you are fully ready - and this may take a while, go to Hogarth's My Space page and listen to the song as he recently did it solo on tour.

http://www.myspace.com/hnatural
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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:11 pm

I like them. My dad is a friend of the original singer of the Marilion spin off "Arena"
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:44 pm

Memorex wrote:When you have time, drink a half-glass of wine, relax, and give yourself 6 or 7 minutes to listen to this song. Repeat as needed.

Afraid of Sunlight (Live) 1999

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nVPE6EOreFw


wow.. this was quite good!!.....
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Postby 7 Wishes » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:48 pm

Memorex wrote:I think this is why I am more Hogarth-era oriented.


This is the first time in the history of the English language that those exact words have been written out in that exact order. It's never EVER been said or written before.
But around town, it was well known...when they got home at night
Their fat and psychopathic wives
Would thrash them within inches of their lives!
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Postby Memorex » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:54 pm

7 Wishes wrote:
Memorex wrote:I think this is why I am more Hogarth-era oriented.


This is the first time in the history of the English language that those exact words have been written out in that exact order. It's never EVER been said or written before.


That's the kind of unique vocabulary listening to a band like Marillion will give you. I consider it a gift.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:09 pm

7 Wishes wrote:
Memorex wrote:I think this is why I am more Hogarth-era oriented.


This is the first time in the history of the English language that those exact words have been written out in that exact order. It's never EVER been said or written before.


You said the same thing when I said the following:

"I believe that Journey's debut album is their strongest overall release, and that Gregg Rolie's vocals on this record are every bit as emotive and powerful as any other singer Journey's ever had."
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Postby 7 Wishes » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:16 pm

At least I'm consistent in my system of disbelief! :wink:
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Postby finalfight » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:58 pm

Loved Marbles. Hogarth is so interesting to watch in a live environment.
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Postby Sundet » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:28 pm

Huge Marillion fan here, H-era primarily. Can't wait till the next album's out this Summer!!
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Postby Sundet » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:35 pm

By the way, here is the definition of fan devotion and perhaps even the future of the music industry - Marillion's been doing this since 2000!

http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2008/03/11 ... -new-album
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Postby FinnFreak » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:39 pm

I've been a fan of Marillion since the release of Fugazi (1984)

If pushed, I think I'd say Brave (1994) would be my favorite Marillion album...

...but, there really isn't anything in their catalog I dislike.

Seen them live about a dozen times, took part in the U.S. TSE Tour Fund Project,
been to the first 2 Marillion Weekends, had some beers with the guys numerous times,
done the pre-order thing now for the 3rd time...

...even got my ugly mugshot on the cover of Marillion.com (1999)

Yep, I consider myself a moderate fan of Marillion - with and without Fish.

h roools. And so does Fish - his latest release 13th Star (2007) is outstanding.

After Fish left, replacing him with Steve Hogarth, was one of the finest musical transitions
I've ever come to witness.

Here's an article from Sound On Sound Magazine - Marillion: Doing Business With Their Fans


A Better Way Of Life can be found at: www.marillion.com


RESPECT. Yep.

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Postby EME » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:43 am

I've saw them twice in the last 8 eight months...after not really bothering them for about 20 years!

I was a huge fan of everything up to and including the first album, then I thought they took a leftfield turn around the time of Fugazi.

Saw Fish's first solo tour; which was excellent; again I haven't really heard anything since.

'H' is a magnificant singer..love the 'Somewhere Else' and 'Marbles' albums and I've bought everything back to his first album with them.

As mid life crisis' go; joining a 'fan club' at 42 is pretty much up there methinks!

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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:20 am

"The Party" is a haunting song from the H-era, love it
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Re: OT: Marillion

Postby X factor » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:27 am

Memorex wrote:Any Marillion fans out there. I'll warn you that while I do like a lot of the Fish-era stuff (especially the last two), I am a huge Hogarth fan. HUGE. To me, this music is another level. Unfortunately, it's spoiled me to the degree that I can't even listen to a lot of 80's stuff that I used to swear by. I've lots to discuss if anyone wants to join in my thread here.

Also, Deano looks like Fish to me, in some ways.


Casual fan....I got into MISPLACED CHILDHOOD when they it was getting buzz back in the states. One of my best friends, though, is die hard. She and her hubby even sent money to them a few years back to help fund their tour of the states, and got a THANK YOU on the liner notes of their next release. Were you in on that?
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Re: OT: Marillion

Postby Memorex » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:01 am

X factor wrote:
Memorex wrote:Any Marillion fans out there. I'll warn you that while I do like a lot of the Fish-era stuff (especially the last two), I am a huge Hogarth fan. HUGE. To me, this music is another level. Unfortunately, it's spoiled me to the degree that I can't even listen to a lot of 80's stuff that I used to swear by. I've lots to discuss if anyone wants to join in my thread here.

Also, Deano looks like Fish to me, in some ways.


Casual fan....I got into MISPLACED CHILDHOOD when they it was getting buzz back in the states. One of my best friends, though, is die hard. She and her hubby even sent money to them a few years back to help fund their tour of the states, and got a THANK YOU on the liner notes of their next release. Were you in on that?


Yup. I helped with the tour fund as well. And have my name on some of the releases, including the next one. A little disappointed in this year's price though. over $60 USD. I've only been able to see them once as I live in So Cal. I saw them for the Marbles tour. Incredible. For the tour I helped fund, I was in Atlanta, so unable to attend.

Have any of you checked out the h-Natural stuff yet? http://www.h-tunes.com

Phenomenal. I've purchased all 10 shows he's offered so far. Been waiting for the next one for half a damn year. It's the first show he is releasing "Waiting to Happen". I'm curious how he does it. We dedicated that song to our daughter at our vow renewals.

Good to see some Marillion fans here. I'm jealous that some have seen them a lot more than I am able.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:04 am

I did some research on Marillion's post-Fish era last night, and some of the things I read about the fanbase, coupled with what I've seen on here, have made me retract my original statement.

I am not a "pretty big" Marillion fan after all. :lol:

I just happen to immensely dig a few albums' worth of tunes and play them all the time.
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Postby Silvio Rodrigues » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:06 am

I prefer the Fish-era, but Brave and Afraid of Sunlight are great albuns with Steve Hogarth.
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Re: OT: Marillion

Postby Rockindeano » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:51 am

Memorex wrote:Also, Deano looks like Fish to me, in some ways.


WTF? You say I look like a fuckin large mouth Bass or an Idaho trout? I am confused.
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Postby Memorex » Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:27 am

Early days Deano.... :)

Just got this:

NEWS!

We're just out of a meeting!

Marillion "Album 15" will be called Happiness Is The Road.
It will consist of 2 separate CDs (full details on www.marillion.com/preorder). Volume 1 is subtitled Essence and Volume 2 is subtitled The Hard Shoulder.
Essence (Volume 1) is evolving at the moment into a thematic journey, whilst Volume 2 is more a collection of discrete songs. Recording is still going brilliantly and the new songs we've written have "knocked out" the few people we've played them to.
More soon..
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