Will 'REVELATION' Hit Gold Status with 500,000 Sold?

by **mikemarrs** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:42 am

by **Barb** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:43 am

With no hesitation, I say YES!

by **Since 78** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:49 am

Yes !!!!

by **StoneCold** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:58 am

It's a Walmart promotion and they were featured on Ellen.

Hells yeah.

by **Sarah** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:24 am

Doesn't it only have to sell 250k for gold because of the dual disc?

Stupid rule, btw.

by **Rhiannon** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:27 am

Sure, especially with all this publicity. The question here really is... how long will it take?

by **stevew2** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:34 am

Since 78 wrote:Yes !!!!

I sure as hell hope not!!

by **stevew2** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:35 am

Sarah wrote:Doesn't it only have to sell 250k for gold because of the dual disc?

Stupid rule, btw.

dosent count far as Im concerned

by **fightingilliniJRNY** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:37 am

stevew2 wrote:
Sarah wrote:Doesn't it only have to sell 250k for gold because of the dual disc?
dosent count far as Im concerned

Good to know. :roll:

by **Rick** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:39 am

stevew2 wrote:
Since 78 wrote:Yes !!!!
I sure as hell hope not!!

Why would you wish for their record to flop?

by **youkeepmewaiting** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:40 am

Rick wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Since 78 wrote:Yes !!!!
I sure as hell hope not!!

Why would you wish for their record to flop?

I could take a wild guess :roll:

by **fightingilliniJRNY** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:42 am

Rick wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Since 78 wrote:Yes !!!!
I sure as hell hope not!!

Why would you wish for their record to flop?

Yeah, I want to hear the straight answer to this, too. You can dislike what they has gone on in the last two years, and you can dislike the direction that they took...but seriously? You are really wishing that it fails?

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:43 am

i would think that it will be shipped gold.... 3700 walmart's'

around the US alone.. might not actually sell that many at first.. but..

..walmart's' thinks BIG!

by **AlteredDNA** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:44 am

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
Rick wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Since 78 wrote:Yes !!!!
I sure as hell hope not!!

Why would you wish for their record to flop?

Yeah, I want to hear the straight answer to this, too. You can dislike what they has gone on in the last two years, and you can dislike the direction that they took...but seriously? You are really wishing that it fails?

Schadenfreude...

by **stevew2** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:47 am

Rick wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Since 78 wrote:Yes !!!!
I sure as hell hope not!!

Why would you wish for their record to flop?

If you forgot why, Im cool with that

by **fightingilliniJRNY** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:52 am

stevew2 wrote:
Rick wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Since 78 wrote:Yes !!!!
I sure as hell hope not!!

Why would you wish for their record to flop?
If you forgot why, Im cool with that

Your boy Augeri got dumped? That's all I got...

by **Monker** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:57 am

Not all Wal-Mart exclusives sell big. REO's last album was a Wal-Mart exclusive and it didn't even chart. I even heard a couple of the new songs on the radio and it didnt' help that much.

Journey's will do better, but not THAT much better. It may eventualy go gold, in five years or so...but not by the end of this year. Not a chance.

You guys are WAY over-estimating the number of people who give a damn about new music by these bands nowadays.

by **Rick** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:02 am

stevew2 wrote:
Rick wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Since 78 wrote:Yes !!!!
I sure as hell hope not!!

Why would you wish for their record to flop?
If you forgot why, Im cool with that

Dude I drink a lot, can't remember shit, feel free to refresh my memory. :lol:

by **Glenn** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:11 am

Sarah wrote:Doesn't it only have to sell 250k for gold because of the dual disc?

Stupid rule, btw.

you are correct.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:14 am

I saw waaaay more promotion for "Arrival" and that flopped.
So I am going to have to say no for now.

by **Eric** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:25 am

Monker wrote:Not all Wal-Mart exclusives sell big. REO's last album was a Wal-Mart exclusive and it didn't even chart. I even heard a couple of the new songs on the radio and it didnt' help that much.

Journey's will do better, but not THAT much better. It may eventualy go gold, in five years or so...but not by the end of this year. Not a chance.

You guys are WAY over-estimating the number of people who give a damn about new music by these bands nowadays.

1) That was REO. This is Journey.
2) The songs are better on Revelation.
3) It comes with more stuff.

It won't sell big, but I'm not gonna compare to REO Speedwagon either...

by **fightingilliniJRNY** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:27 am

Eric wrote:
Monker wrote:Not all Wal-Mart exclusives sell big. REO's last album was a Wal-Mart exclusive and it didn't even chart. I even heard a couple of the new songs on the radio and it didnt' help that much.

Journey's will do better, but not THAT much better. It may eventualy go gold, in five years or so...but not by the end of this year. Not a chance.

You guys are WAY over-estimating the number of people who give a damn about new music by these bands nowadays.

1) That was REO. This is Journey.
2) The songs are better on Revelation.
3) It comes with more stuff.

It won't sell big, but I'm not gonna compare to REO Speedwagon either...

Actually, as far as #3 is concerned...REO's package was also a three-disc set. The new album, a CD of Hi Infidelity re-done, and a DVD of a live in-studio performance for XM Radio.

by **AlteredDNA** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:34 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:I saw waaaay more promotion for "Arrival" and that flopped.
So I am going to have to say no for now.

However, many people had the songs from Arrival waaaay before it was actually released... :wink:

by **Saint John** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:35 am

I think it's going to be extremely difficult for this album to go Gold. Say it sells 55,000 packages (110,000 in sales counted) in its first week like Def Leppard did. That still leaves almost 200,000 packages to be sold. Going Gold is a tall order, folks. A very tall order.

by **Jeremey** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:35 am

The Wal Mart deal, as I understand it, is for a one time purchase of somewhere above 250,000 and less than 500,000 units. However the math works out, I am not sure, with the dual disc and all. May be more than 500,000 units sold world wide, but not, I don't think, through the Wal Mart deal. Unless they move several hundred thousand units in the first few weeks, which, with all due respect, does not seem likely, I can't see any further purchases being made from Nomota by WM. While I don't want to underestimate the interest in Arnel in the Phillipines and abroad, I also know that far more CDRs are sold on the streets of Manilla for $2 each than are sold at legitimate stores. With interest in Arnel being so high in that part of the world, I can see profiteering and bootlegging being a big part of moving the CD.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:36 am

AlteredDNA wrote:However, many people had the songs from Arrival waaaay before it was actually released...

Yeah, I forgot about that.
Wait and see then.

by **fightingilliniJRNY** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:42 am

Saint John wrote:I think it's going to be extremely difficult for this album to go Gold. Say it sells 55,000 packages (110,000 in sales counted) in its first week like Def Leppard did. That still leaves almost 200,000 packages to be sold. Going Gold is a tall order, folks. A very tall order.

Definitely true. I think Gold would be quite an accomplishment, and hopefully the band isn't counting on something more to determine whether or not to make more new music in the future.

I do think that Revelation will move more than Songs From The Sparkle Lounge did in its first week, though.

by **Monker** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:52 am

Eric wrote:
Monker wrote:Not all Wal-Mart exclusives sell big. REO's last album was a Wal-Mart exclusive and it didn't even chart. I even heard a couple of the new songs on the radio and it didnt' help that much.

Journey's will do better, but not THAT much better. It may eventualy go gold, in five years or so...but not by the end of this year. Not a chance.

You guys are WAY over-estimating the number of people who give a damn about new music by these bands nowadays.

1) That was REO. This is Journey.

Which is why I said Journey would sell more.

2) The songs are better on Revelation.

That is a matter of opinion. It's irrelevant anyway because most people will only hear the samples before purchase.

3) It comes with more stuff.

Not true.

It won't sell big, but I'm not gonna compare to REO Speedwagon either...

Then you are very foolish...since they are similar bands promoting to the same demographics, from the same era musicaly, and have similar deals from Wal-Mart.

by **StoneCold** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:52 am

Also, youtube wasn't around at the release of Arrival. SA isn't Filipino.

This cd will do better out the gate than Arrival.

by **Sarah** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:55 am

Monker wrote:Journey's will do better, but not THAT much better. It may eventualy go gold, in five years or so...but not by the end of this year. Not a chance.

You guys are WAY over-estimating the number of people who give a damn about new music by these bands nowadays.

I'm saying yes due to the ton of Filipinos who are buying it for Arnel. Or maybe it just seems like a lot of them...

MR