OT-MLB to start using instant replay

[Angiekay]

Bout time they catch up with everyone else

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/b ... index.html

[Saint John]

Ang, can you copy and paste the article, please? The filter at work won't allow me to open it...something about "inappropriate swimsuit apparel."

[Angiekay]

Ang, can you copy and paste the article, please? The filter at work won't allow me to open it...something about "inappropriate swimsuit apparel."

Damn, you're lazy!


NEW YORK (AP) -- Instant replay might be coming to Major League Baseball in an instant.

Moving faster than expected and coming after a rash of blown calls, baseball wants to put replay into effect by August for home run disputes in hopes of fine-tuning the system by the playoffs.

MLB and the umpires' union need to reach agreement before replay can be tried, and the sides have started talking. Previously, it was thought replay would get its first look in the Arizona Fall League and then the 2009 World Baseball Classic.

"The game needs it and I think it does need it soon," Chicago Cubs pitcher Jon Lieber said Friday before a game at Toronto. "With technology the way it is today, there's no reason why it shouldn't be a part of the game."

Jimmie Lee Solomon, MLB's executive vice president for baseball operations, is pushing for replay by Aug. 1; Rob Manfred, MLB's executive vice president of labor relations, suggested Aug. 15.

"It's all still premature," MLB spokesman Rich Levin said Friday. "A final decision has not been made."

USA Today first reported on its Web site Friday that baseball planned to use replay this season, saying MLB wanted it by Aug. 1.

"I don't think it's needed at all, to be honest," Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Friday. "How many times do you see players make errors? Baseball has talked about speeding up the game. It's all you hear. All of a sudden, they want instant replay? You're going to have slower games and more restless people in the stands."

Commissioner Bud Selig will ultimately decide when MLB wants to put replay in place. A staunch opponent in the past, a spate of missed boundary calls -- fair or foul, over the fence or not -- last month left Selig leaning toward its limited use.

The NFL, NBA, NHL, some NCAA sports and major tennis tournaments all employ replay in various forms.

A person briefed on MLB's preliminary plan told The Associated Press that baseball wants to create an NHL-style "war room" in New York where video feeds would be reviewed by a supervisor. The umpire crew chief wouldn't see replays -- instead, the supervisor would describe what he saw, but leave it up to the umpire to make the final call.

It was not certain whether managers, umpires or the video supervisor would ask for a replay, said the person, who spoke on condition of anonymity because negotiations were in progress.

Last month, after Carlos Delgado of the New York Mets and Alex Rodriguez of the New York lost home runs because of missed calls, umpires said they were open for discussion.

"We'd be all in favor of listening to whatever proposals they might have," veteran ump John Hirschbeck, president of the World Umpires Association, said then.

Umpires, however, remain adamant that they do not want replay used to review close plays on the bases or ball-and-strike calls.

"I think the umpires do a good job on it. If they would like some additional help, I would find nothing wrong with it," Baltimore hitting coach Terry Crowley said Friday night before the Orioles played Pittsburgh. "Every once in a while they get one wrong, but I would bet they get 99 out of 100 right, probably more."

Last November, general managers voted 25-5 to try replay on boundary calls. At the time, Selig took the recommendation under advisement.

Selig, like many of the game's traditionalists, always liked the human element of baseball, and that meant tolerating an occasional wrong call by an umpire. He also worried about further bogging down a sport that has been criticized for its slow pace.

Count Pittsburgh outfielder Jason Michaels in that corner.

"Here's the thing: I guess I'm old school, but I think human error is part of the game," he said. "It's always been that way. I would think I'd be against it."

In recent years, the new and cozy ballparks have made it more difficult for umpires with their quirky dimensions, odd angles and yellow lines that denote home runs.

"As I've said before, tradition is a wonderful thing, but it can also be an ump killer," Colorado manager Clint Hurdle said before the Rockies played at the Chicago White Sox.

"We're putting these umps in a very difficult position making a call that is already challenging just because of the dynamic of the play. We live in a technological society right now that we can get it right. The guy at home sees it right. That for me is where it really gets confusing. You can sit in your chair at home and make the right call, but the man getting paid who's the expert is put in a box where you don't know."

Copyright 2008 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

[NealIsGod]

Yeah, they need to make the games take even longer.

[Michigan Girl]

Bout time they catch up with everyone else

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/b ... index.html

Totally agree, AK, BTW....the barely there bikins were to die for!!!!
Too bad SJ can't see them!!!

[Angiekay]

Yeah, they need to make the games take even longer.

Most televised games already SHOW an instant replay, why not actually use it?!

[NealIsGod]

Yeah, they need to make the games take even longer.

Most televised games already SHOW an instant replay, why not actually use it?!

So does football, but when the officials review a play, as you know being a Vikes fan, it takes 3 or 4 minutes and disrupts the flow of the game. I don't mind it in football, but I could live without it.

[Saint John]

Yeah, they need to make the games take even longer.

This will shorten games, NIG. Instead of the umpires huddled up for usually around 4-5 minutes, followed by the manager that didn't get the call arguing, going ballistic and being ejected, you'll have the replay guys take 30 seconds to a minute and get the call right. For homeruns and other "boundary" calls this will speed up games. I've always wondered why the fucking "fair poles" were so damn skinny in the first place. Make the fucking thing a see-through mesh about 5 feet wide all the way up and it would be much easier to see if the ball is fair or foul. The people sitting in those shitty seats obviously don't care about a good view anyway!!!

[Saint John]

PS Thank you, Angie, for copy nad pasting the article.

[NealIsGod]

This will shorten games, NIG. Instead of the umpires huddled up for usually around 4-5 minutes, followed by the manager that didn't get the call arguing, going ballistic and being ejected, you'll have the replay guys take 30 seconds to a minute and get the call right.

That would be like removing the fights from hockey games. Glad they didn't have replay when Earl Weaver was managing.

[Behshad]

This just helps a boring sport become even more boring,,,, if possible

[Saint John]

This will shorten games, NIG. Instead of the umpires huddled up for usually around 4-5 minutes, followed by the manager that didn't get the call arguing, going ballistic and being ejected, you'll have the replay guys take 30 seconds to a minute and get the call right.

That would be like removing the fights from hockey games. Glad they didn't have replay when Earl Weaver was managing.

When I saw Terry Crowley's name in the article I laughed out loud. He BLASTED Crowley in his classic tirade.

[Saint John]

This just helps a boring sport become even more boring,,,, if possible

And soccer and its 3 shots on goal and 1-0 scores is just riveting.

[Behshad]

This just helps a boring sport become even more boring,,,, if possible

And soccer and its 3 shots on goal and 1-0 scores is just riveting.

Yep...another boring sport. Thanks for reminding me Saint John.

You want action,,, stick with HOCKEY .....

[Saint John]

This just helps a boring sport become even more boring,,,, if possible

And soccer and it's 3 shots on goal and 1-0 scores is just riveting.

Yep...another boring sport. Thanks for reminding me Saint John.

You want action,,, stick with HOCKEY .....

Hey B, please edit the " ' " out of the word "it's" in my post. It's incorrect and driving me fucking nuts.

[strangegrey]

I think replay to solve disputed home run calls is fantasti...and it will stop the huddled up umps trying to deliberate over these types of calls.


However, wtf cares....until they solve the steroid problem in this sport, it's not a sport at all, but a circus. Moreover, until they do something about the 10+ years of falsified records (and counting) brought about by steroid abuse, the sport doesn't have a shred worth of credibility and is not worth watching at all.

[Behshad]

This just helps a boring sport become even more boring,,,, if possible

And soccer and it's 3 shots on goal and 1-0 scores is just riveting.

Yep...another boring sport. Thanks for reminding me Saint John.

You want action,,, stick with HOCKEY .....

Hey B, please edit the " ' " out of the word "it's" in my post. It's incorrect and driving me fucking nuts.

ok I did it on the 1st one, but NO MORE !

[Saint John]

You want action,,, stick with HOCKEY .....

Grown men prancing around on frozen water wearing ice skates is boring as well...not to mention borderline homosexual.

[Angiekay]

You want action,,, stick with HOCKEY .....

Grown men prancing around on frozen water wearing ice skates is boring as well...not to mention borderline homosexual.

What? You don't like a sport where how good of a player you are is judged by how few teeth you have? I've never had time for hockey either. It's....cold.

[Tito]

This will shorten games, NIG. Instead of the umpires huddled up for usually around 4-5 minutes, followed by the manager that didn't get the call arguing, going ballistic and being ejected, you'll have the replay guys take 30 seconds to a minute and get the call right.

That would be like removing the fights from hockey games. Glad they didn't have replay when Earl Weaver was managing.

When I saw Terry Crowley's name in the article I laughed out loud. He BLASTED Crowley in his classic tirade.

Terry Crowley is lucky he's in the league for christ sakes.

[7 Wishes]

Yeah, it was that Mariners-Angels game that finally convinced me they needed replays:

[Behshad]

You want action,,, stick with HOCKEY .....

Grown men prancing around on frozen water wearing ice skates is boring as well...not to mention borderline homosexual.

I bet you if one of them would prance around one of the baseball players, the baseball player would be knocked out for life.
And how do you figure out the homo from hockey? And should this be the case, wouldnt it make the sport MORE attractive to You !?

[Tito]

This is stupid. First of all, if they're going to do it wait until next year. Do not do it mid season. If anything it is unfair to the teams that got screwed earlier in the year.

Second, it IS going to slow the game down. Those things are never quick and the few times the umps huddle usually doesn't take that long. It also takes the human element out of the game both with the umpires making the call and the managers not going nuts anymore. I'm going to miss Lou Pinella's base throwing episodes.

Third, why just review homeruns? Review all close calls: outs at bases and I would go for as far to say close balls/strikes calls. Those happen more often and are just as important. What if a guys safe at first but is called out. A runner at first is better than no one on and an out. Especially if ends an inning with a rally. Same thing with balls/strikes. What if the count is full in the bottom of the 9th with bases loaded with two outs in a one run game. What if the ump makes a brutal call and calls what should be ball four, strike three ending the game. If they replay it, tying run scores and bases are still loaded with two outs. Does that run not count as much as a solo homer in the middle of the game?

Typical, liberal knee jerk reaction. A couple of missed calls in a short period of time and it's "We have to do something drastic." Bullsh-t! The games been fine for over 100 years. Plus controversy is good - right Cardinal fans?

[lights1961]

if they put in instant replay then the National League also needs to get its ass out of the sand and insert the DH.
The umps are more right in baseball than the refs are in football.


Rick

[Tito]

if they put in instant replay then the National League also needs to get its ass out of the sand and insert the DH.
The umps are more right in baseball than the refs are in football.


Rick

That's a good point about the DH. But, I do like the rules as is.

[Tito]

Be careful there is "language" on this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9YKxf3OkpJc

[Saint John]

You want action,,, stick with HOCKEY .....

Grown men prancing around on frozen water wearing ice skates is boring as well...not to mention borderline homosexual.

I bet you if one of them would prance around one of the baseball players, the baseball player would be knocked out for life.
And how do you figure out the homo from hockey? And should this be the case, wouldnt it make the sport MORE attractive to You !?

The barbaric side show that is hockey fighting is neither part of the official rules nor impressive. Besides, there isn't a fucking hockey player in the history of the game that could measure up to Nolan Ryan, Mike Schmidt or Albert Belle (just to name a few) in a fist fight. Hockey...lol. Great sport for people that enjoy the outdoors and don't live in fucking Antarctica. "C'mon Sven, it's 39 degrees below zero today!!! Let's go play hockey!!!"

As for the gay reference...I get more (female) ass than a fucking toilet seat, pal.

[Behshad]

You want action,,, stick with HOCKEY .....

Grown men prancing around on frozen water wearing ice skates is boring as well...not to mention borderline homosexual.

I bet you if one of them would prance around one of the baseball players, the baseball player would be knocked out for life.
And how do you figure out the homo from hockey? And should this be the case, wouldnt it make the sport MORE attractive to You !?

The barbaric side show that is hockey fighting is neither part of the official rules nor impressive. Besides, there isn't a fucking hockey player in the history of the game that could measure up to Nolan Ryan, Mike Schmidt or Albert Belle (just to name a few) in a fist fight. Hockey...lol. Great sport for people that enjoy the outdoors and don't live in fucking Antarctica. "C'mon Sven, it's 39 degrees below zero today!!! Let's go play hockey!!!"

As for the gay reference...I get more (male) ass than a fucking toilet seat, pal.

There. I corrected it for ya.

[Saint John]

You want action,,, stick with HOCKEY .....

Grown men prancing around on frozen water wearing ice skates is boring as well...not to mention borderline homosexual.

I bet you if one of them would prance around one of the baseball players, the baseball player would be knocked out for life.
And how do you figure out the homo from hockey? And should this be the case, wouldnt it make the sport MORE attractive to You !?

The barbaric side show that is hockey fighting is neither part of the official rules nor impressive. Besides, there isn't a fucking hockey player in the history of the game that could measure up to Nolan Ryan, Mike Schmidt or Albert Belle (just to name a few) in a fist fight. Hockey...lol. Great sport for people that enjoy the outdoors and don't live in fucking Antarctica. "C'mon Sven, it's 39 degrees below zero today!!! Let's go play hockey!!!"

As for the gay reference...I get more (male) ass than a fucking toilet seat, pal.

There. I corrected it for ya.

Figures...you're great at disinformation.

[Luvsaugeri]

I think replay to solve disputed home run calls is fantasti...and it will stop the huddled up umps trying to deliberate over these types of calls.


However, wtf cares....until they solve the steroid problem in this sport, it's not a sport at all, but a circus. Moreover, until they do something about the 10+ years of falsified records (and counting) brought about by steroid abuse, the sport doesn't have a shred worth of credibility and is not worth watching at all.

Can we throw in salary caps too?? I'm tired of the same few teams always being at the top of the standings!