OT: Zeppelin to Replace Plant???

by **RocknRoll** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:26 am

Not quite off-topic

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/ar ... in_1081118

edit: Here's another article.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sh ... 712616.ece

by **RossValoryRocks** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:30 am

RocknRoll wrote:http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/new%20frontman%20for%20led%20zeppelin_1081118

Not quite off-topic

Off to YouTube they go!!!!

by **brywool** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:40 am

Interesting. I half expected this. When Plant did the reunion and the reports were so good, I was like... "wait a sec, this is the same Robert Plant who really hasn't been able to access his Zep voice since the late 70s???"

I knew that he'd never do a full tour. I think he got lucky on that show, but to do that each night would be very tough for the guy.
If these guys were smart, they'd have DVD'd it and let THAT make them the money. Now, they're going to go out with someone else.

by **S2M** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:46 am

I'll tell you who would be perfect....

Keith St. John

He is the singer for Doug Aldrich's, 'Burning Rain'....especially the song 'Judgment Day' from their 2nd cd, 'Pleasure to Burn'....

Here is a clip of the song, sorry it is so short.....

http://www.dougaldrich.com/html/mp3/br_judgementday.mp3

by **lowdbrent** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:49 am

What a mistake. Even if RP can't hit the notes, I would rather see him up there.

Let the dead bones lay dead otherwise.

by **S2M** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:57 am

lowdbrent wrote:What a mistake. Even if RP can't hit the notes, I would rather see him up there.

Let the dead bones lay dead otherwise.

Ok, so Journey is OK without SMFP, but Zeppelin must quit? That's interesting..... :wink:

by **Just Mindy** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:57 am

lowdbrent wrote:What a mistake. Even if RP can't hit the notes, I would rather see him up there.

Let the dead bones lay dead otherwise.

I feel the same. Damnit.

by **Loneman1** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:08 am

Sounds like Neal may have gotten into Jimmy Page's head when he came to see them during their European tour. Thats crazy to think of Zeppelin without Plant, but who knows, similar things have happened and worked out. :lol:

by **RocknRoll** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:12 am

Is this another case where the music is stronger than any one band member?

by **S2M** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:14 am

Here is Keith St. John with MONTROSE.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmqWRY-OdA

by **T-Bone** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:15 am

Get Plant to reconsider: Have Jimmy Page announce that the replacement guy is David Coverdale :lol:

by **Rick** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:22 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:Here is Keith St. John with MONTROSE.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmqWRY-OdA

Damn. He is good.

by **Just Mindy** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:24 am

Daniel MacMaster, who sang for Jason Bonham's band on The Disregard of Timekeeping, would have made a nice fit as well.

I loved this guy's voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne066jStW_w

by **S2M** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:28 am

Then there is always LENNY WOLF from 'Kingdom Come'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKJiVPt-KRQ

by **conversationpc** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:30 am

The closest Plant imitation that I've ever heard is Jack Russell of Great White. The live album they did, "Great Zeppelin" sounds exactly like the real Zeppelin. If someone hadn't told me it was Great White, I'd have sworn it was the real deal.

by **Rick** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:33 am

Just Mindy wrote:Daniel MacMaster, who sang for Jason Bonham's band on The Disregard of Timekeeping, would have made a nice fit as well.

I loved this guy's voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne066jStW_w

Yeah, he even looked the part. Too sad.

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:55 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:Then there is always LENNY WOLF from 'Kingdom Come'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKJiVPt-KRQ

good call ,, (your post might light up NIG) , but that is just too close to home.. remember

ozzy's Led Clones referencing Kingdom Come?.. if this was 10 years ago

Coverdale would be pimping for this gig!!

by **scarygirl** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:52 am

conversationpc wrote:The closest Plant imitation that I've ever heard is Jack Russell of Great White. The live album they did, "Great Zeppelin" sounds exactly like the real Zeppelin. If someone hadn't told me it was Great White, I'd have sworn it was the real deal.

I love Jack Russell. Him and that band as a whole are underrated. Is that album still available?

by **Angiekay** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:57 am

Just Mindy wrote:
lowdbrent wrote:What a mistake. Even if RP can't hit the notes, I would rather see him up there.

Let the dead bones lay dead otherwise.

I feel the same. Damnit.

Ditto. ditto. DITTO!

by **squirt1** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:16 pm

Robert Plant has asthama. He was told by his doctor to do only 6 shows! The band takes the risk to do a tour. Don't these guys EVER get enough $$$$. Another band down the tubes !!!!

by **Rick** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:19 pm

squirt1 wrote:Robert Plant has asthama. He was told by his doctor to do only 6 shows! The band takes the risk to do a tour. Don't these guys EVER get enough $$$$. Another band down the tubes !!!!

I would imagine them seeing all of these other classic rock bands touring to sold out crowds and getting excellent reviews has to have some kind of effect on them mentally. Not sure they would be doing it for money alone.

by **DrFU** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:38 pm

Warning: Mile Long Post

This thread (how horrible would it be for Zep to replace Plant?) reminds me of an article in the Washington Post last year that suggested a formula for determining how bad it sucked for rock bands to sell the rights to their songs for commercials. For some bands, it's like, "who cares?"; for others it just seems wrong.

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How to Calculate Musical Sellouts
As Rockers Cash In, The Moby Quotient Helps to Determine The Shilling Effect

By Bill Wyman
Special to The Washington Post
Sunday, October 14, 2007; Page M01

A commercial during "The Colbert Report" recently featured a happy family shopping in Circuit City for back-to-school technology for their comely daughter. She's a big fan of the bubblegum punk group Fall Out Boy, and while the band's fabulous song "Thnks fr th Mmrs" plays, she imagines all the exciting Fall Out Boy-related things she could do with many different amazing Circuit City products.

As the happy family leaves the store, Dad hands her a new cellphone and says, smiling, "You can take a study break with Fall Out Boy!"

The kid is tickled pink.

Right after that came a Nissan commercial, which wanted consumers to understand that, if you owned an SUV, you could drive places. To underline the point, the commercial broke into the Ramones, who sang, "Hey! Ho! Let's go!" That's the famous break from the punk rockers' "Blitzkrieg Bop," a heartfelt ode to pogoing to the beat of a Nazi military assault.

Well, at least it wasn't a Volkswagen ad.

It seems as if every commercial these days has a rock band in it. What was once the mark of utter uncoolness, a veritable byword of selling out, has become the norm. More than a decade ago we became inured to the most unlikely parings. Led Zeppelin in a Cadillac ad. The Clash shilling for Jaguar. Bob Dylan warbling for an accounting firm, or Victoria's Secret. An Iggy Pop song about a heroin-soaked demimonde accompanying scenes of blissful vacationers on a Caribbean cruise ship.

There is no longer even a debate, let alone a stigma. "If you did an advert, you were a sellout," notes Billboard Executive Editor Tamara Conniff. "The Rolling Stones broke that when they allowed the use of 'Start Me Up' for the Windows campaign. Though there was an initial backlash, it suddenly made it okay for bands of integrity to do commercials. Now, it's almost as if as an artist you don't have a corporate partner [or] commercial, you've not really arrived."

Indeed, in the late 1990s, the techno artist Moby, as hip as they come, openly boasted of having sold every track of his breakthrough album "Play" to an advertiser, or to a film or TV soundtrack. The album should perhaps have been called "Pay."

So we submit: The battle has been lost. But that doesn't make it right. There are even some who disagree.

"People say making money is making money, but there's a difference," says Bill Brown, a onetime rock critic who now works in the New York publishing world. He examines the implications of this new age in rock commercialism at great length and no little erudition on his Web site, Notbored.org. "If you're in a band, you want to be paid, definitely, but the music is for people to use and enjoy. The problem with branding yourself and selling your songs to commercials is the music is no longer for the listener.

"Instead, the ad is signaling that, 'This company is cool, and we've gotten this band to sell us some of their music.' It's the difference between selling to me, and something else: Pete Townshend sold a song to Hummer!"

Clearly, what we need is an objective formula for determining just how offensive a particular rock-based advertisement is. I am proud to announce that this lack has been righted.
I recently enlisted the aid of Jim Anderson, a senior lecturer in mathematics at England's University of Southampton. An expert on hyperbolic geometry, he embarked on this task with tongue firmly in cheek, and developed a formula that can be used to process the ethical and aesthetic implications of any one instance of the pervasive blurring of the lines between rock and advertising.

The formula kicks out a number that could be used to determine just how much of a sellout is a particular artist.

We are pleased to call this number the Moby Quotient and to assign the Greek letter "mu," to designate it.

The equation is designed to put things in perspective. If Kelly Clarkson sings for Ford, where, in the end, is the harm? Negligible artists singing on subjects that can be of less-than-pressing social import advertising silly products. One does not look to Disney pop culture puppets or artists given an imprimatur by the viewers of a Fox TV show for artistic integrity. Ms. Clarkson can sing for her supper anywhere she wants, and the world sits solidly on its foundations.

However. If you are an artist who traffics in -- or has trafficked in -- your outsider status; if you were a punk or a rebel or a beast whose rude yawp emerged from the underground and you are now hawking your anthems of defiance as ear candy to further the sales of a crummy telecom company, a new line of SUVs or the marvelous things General Electric is doing, well then, sir or madam artiste, expect your Moby Quotient to be somewhat higher.

The formula sits proudly on this very page, along with a few examples of the sorts of Moby Quotients certain artists earn. We have to be realistic: This tide of greed will never slide back out. Indeed, it can only get worse, since new generations of rock fans have grown up with the practice and apparently see nothing wrong with it.

Our one hope is that what greed created, greed may eventually eliminate -- in other words, that younger artists will view Moby's career as a cautionary tale. The jut-jawed vegan still makes a good living touring and doing film soundtracks and the like. But it's also true that commercially and artistically, his recorded work since "Play" has been on a downward spiral. Let the sellouts beware.

Bill Wyman, the former arts editor of National Public Radio, writes the blog "Hitsville" athttp://hitsville.org.

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Here's the link to the actual equation and the examples (you may have to register to view it):

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2007/sellout-songs/

by **Saint John** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:09 pm

I hope they never play again...with or without Plant. Behind Dave Matthews and Bruce Sprinsteen, Plant probably has the 3rd most annoying voice I've ever heard. Though Bob Dylan, Geddy Lee and whoever the singer for boring ass Pink Floyd is are pretty fucking bad too.

by **journel** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:41 pm

RocknRoll wrote:Is this another case where the music is stronger than any one band member?

or should i say that the guitarist is stronger than the vocalist! :lol:

by **texafana** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:46 pm

squirt1 wrote:Robert Plant has asthama. He was told by his doctor to do only 6 shows! The band takes the risk to do a tour. Don't these guys EVER get enough $$$$. Another band down the tubes !!!!

It's a case similar to Journey. A couple of guys want to jam and make a buck, it's all they "know" what to do. There is ego and money at stake. They want to prove they can do it a few more years, and they realize there is some serious money to be made. What alot of peeps don't realize is, alot of these older rock musicians havn't made the millions and millions we all think they have. It's not like they're listed in the top 100 forbes list for instance. Drummers, guitar players, etc, can hit the road until the day they die. They can emulate their sound over and over, vocalists don't have the same luxory. The question is, when these older rockers get someone younger who can still bring it vocally, should they call themselves the same band name or change the name a bit?

by **Eric** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:21 pm

I'd love to see Zeppelin, and if they have to replace Plant to do it - so be it.

by **Eric** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:22 pm

Saint John wrote:I hope they never play again...with or without Plant. Behind Dave Matthews and Bruce Sprinsteen, Plant probably has the 3rd most annoying voice I've ever heard. Though Bob Dylan, Geddy Lee and whoever the singer for boring ass Pink Floyd is are pretty fucking bad too.

Pink Floyd couldn't be any more boring if they tried.

by **Liquid_Drummer** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:56 pm

Eric wrote:
Saint John wrote:I hope they never play again...with or without Plant. Behind Dave Matthews and Bruce Sprinsteen, Plant probably has the 3rd most annoying voice I've ever heard. Though Bob Dylan, Geddy Lee and whoever the singer for boring ass Pink Floyd is are pretty fucking bad too.

Pink Floyd couldn't be any more boring if they tried.

Are you guys fucking serious ? Boring ?? Floyd.... Wtf planet are you from ? Floyd has some of the most emotionally charged songs of any band ever... Dark side of the moon being on the charts for 25 years might allude to the fact that you guys are missing something... Too bad for you... Not to mention "The Wall" which is very emotional.

Maybe because its more about the dark side of emotion with none of that lovin touchin and squeezin stuff ? Matter of preference I guess but I cant understand how anyone could find them boring..

by **alesson** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:19 am

Liquid_Drummer wrote:
Eric wrote:
Saint John wrote:I hope they never play again...with or without Plant. Behind Dave Matthews and Bruce Sprinsteen, Plant probably has the 3rd most annoying voice I've ever heard. Though Bob Dylan, Geddy Lee and whoever the singer for boring ass Pink Floyd is are pretty fucking bad too.

Pink Floyd couldn't be any more boring if they tried.

Are you guys fucking serious ? Boring ?? Floyd.... Wtf planet are you from ? Floyd has some of the most emotionally charged songs of any band ever... Dark side of the moon being on the charts for 25 years might allude to the fact that you guys are missing something... Too bad for you... Not to mention "The Wall" which is very emotional.

Maybe because its more about the dark side of emotion with none of that lovin touchin and squeezin stuff ? Matter of preference I guess but I cant understand how anyone could find them boring..

Agree with you there, Floyd is about emotion and the darker side of melancholy but never boring. Hey You and Miss you were here definitely ranked as one of the best emotionally instrumented song of Floyd.

by **Arkansas** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:24 am

Wow. This is almost as bad as Queen without FM. :roll:

later~

MR

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