November 6, On this day in history . . .

[Michigan Girl]

And I was at the Dallas show the next night, I believe....RICK? Is that right?

[Don]

And I was at the Dallas show the next night, I believe....RICK? Is that right?

Do you really think Rick is going to want to remember the night he crashed at your place?

[Michigan Girl]

And I was at the Dallas show the next night, I believe....RICK? Is that right?

Do you really think Rick is going to want to remember the night he crashed at your place?

We didn't know each other.........

[Don]

And I was at the Dallas show the next night, I believe....RICK? Is that right?

Do you really think Rick is going to want to remember the night he crashed at your place?

We didn't know each other.........

I bet you didn't after that.

[Rick]

And I was at the Dallas show the next night, I believe....RICK? Is that right?

Yep, the 7th. Thank you for one of the best nights of my life.

[Rick]

And I was at the Dallas show the next night, I believe....RICK? Is that right?

Was the Dallas show at Reunion Arena? That place was almost brand new in '81 and state of the art for its day. I went to a couple of different concerts there in the '80s. Now its closed and the Summit in Houston is a church. Man I am just getting too old!

Yep, Reunion. Saw many great shows there.

[Michigan Girl]

And I was at the Dallas show the next night, I believe....RICK? Is that right?

Yep, the 7th. Thank you for one of the best nights of my life.

LMAO................

[S2M]

And I was at the Dallas show the next night, I believe....RICK? Is that right?

Yep, the 7th. Thank you for one of the best nights of my life.

LMAO................

Thought so.....Rick from TX, and you being a Dallas fan.....

[Don]

And I was at the Dallas show the next night, I believe....RICK? Is that right?

Yep, the 7th. Thank you for one of the best nights of my life.

Gatorboy is gonna be miffed at you.

[Lula]

november 6, this day in history i was born

welcome aboard

[Deb]

november 6, this day in history i was born

welcome aboard

A big Happy Birthday Lulabell! Hope Dean's spoiling ya rotten today!

[stevew2]

And I was at the Dallas show the next night, I believe....RICK? Is that right?

Did you sleep with Rick?? i got to know

[Michigan Girl]

And I was at the Dallas show the next night, I believe....RICK? Is that right?

Did you sleep with Rick?? i got to know

lol
I'm not that kind of girl........

This thread is awful.............................

[annpea]

27 years ago today, Journey on their Escape Tour appeared at the Summit in Houston. A classic time, a classic concert forever immortalized now on DVD.

As my sig states, I was lucky enough to be at that show, not knowing it would become a moment in history for Journey. It was however a moment in history for me - - it was me and my husband's FIRST date. And while Steve and the guys eventually went their separate ways, me and my husband are still together. This night also sparked the beginning of our longest running argument - was SP gay or straight. My husband insisted way back then at the concert that SP was gay and this was long before SP's years of being unmarried and before pictures of him with cats appeared on the internet. Despite my husbands extremely flawed view of SP's sexual orientation, I married him anyway and we recently celebrated our 23rd anniversary.

After all these years it is so special that we have an awesome DVD of where we went on our first date. Now the only way to top that for me is if Steve would come out of retirement to sing at our 25th anniversary in two years . . . and while he is here he can kick my husband's ass for calling him gay!

LLL, I swear I don't know why some men say that, my son ( he's 29 ) walked into my bedroom one day while i was watching the DVD and flat out said after less than ten seconds " He's gay" I said " son are you out of your mind what would make you think that?'' He just laughed gave me a my poor mom look and shook his head.Maybe it's something men can see that we women can't but I know this much Gay straight. purple or polka dot he will always be the greatest singer that ever fronted Journey past or present in my opinion.

[tammy]

Welcome aboard, LLL...that's a neat story about your first date and having the DVD. My one and only time seeing SP sing in concert was in Houston in '79.

[StoneCold]

This night also sparked the beginning of our longest running argument - was SP gay or straight. My husband insisted way back then at the concert that SP was gay and this was long before SP's years of being unmarried and before pictures of him with cats appeared on the internet. Despite my husbands extremely flawed view of SP's sexual orientation, I married him anyway and we recently celebrated our 23rd anniversary.

lol:

Tell your husband Perry has a daughter from before that concert so he wasn't gay then.

The mentions above of teens saying he's gay isn't too shocking since on the concert DVD he's wearing tight pants (which was the style then). I think Neal's are pretty tight too. Tight pants doesn't make someone gay, just ask Chuck Norris.

Herbie Herbert also talks of Perry "nailin" groupies all the time back then (or was it before he met Sherry)?

I think women have the best gaydar and most women see him as hetero.

[annpea]

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quote="LLL"]

LLL, I swear I don't know why some men say that, my son ( he's 29 ) walked into my bedroom one day while i was watching the DVD and flat out said after less than ten seconds " He's gay" I said " son are you out of your mind what would make you think that?'' He just laughed gave me a my poor mom look and shook his head.Maybe it's something men can see that we women can't but I know this much Gay straight. purple or polka dot he will always be the greatest singer that ever fronted Journey past or present in my opinion.

This is cracking me up. That's the kind of comments I've had to listen to from my husband for 27 years - every time Journey was on the radio or the DVD was on. But now, my teenage daughter is doing a dance routine to DSB in her high school dance class, so I pulled out the DVD and made her watch it. She looked at me with that same look and said, "Mom, he's gay!" I just looked at her and said "Don't make me get started on Zac Efron!" She walked away and hasn't said it again since.

[/quote] All I can say is this, My children have experianced a more open lifestyle than I had by their age. I know as a young child I never heard a word spoken from neither one of my parents that related to sexual orientation other than boy, girl,man, woman and of cause it wasn't openly or directly addressed by the media back then either; so you can pretty much guess how stupid I felt at the age of seventeen in 1975 while working at my first job ( White Castles) nightshift, when one night what looked like a bus full of women filled the resturant mind you these were some of the most beautiful women I had ever seen in my short sheltered life, I had never seen such beautiful clothing, makeup, hairstyles and assessories ( My mom rarely wore makeup or dressed up. Just a plain Jane) Ok back to me, on the grill flipping little square burgers and admiring those pretty ladies; then something odd stepped up. Beautifully outfited in a moss green one piece glittery jumpsuit, open in the front to the tummy Very very,VERY VEEEEERY flat chested and very hairy, hairy, hairy, my poor young sheltered mind hit the brakes so hard I could smell burning rubber all over my cerebral cortex. I didn't know what to say I just stood there with that WTF look all over my face; no one else working seem to notice ( mind you these were older employees a tad bit more worldly than I) so after all these pretty ladies and the one hairy flat chested lady left; I inched closer to the night manager (who was probably in her mid to late thirties then) and whispered ever so softly " Glenda, Why was that lady's chest so hairy? after, what seem like fifteen minutes of tearful laughter she said between gasping for air "Baby, those were all men" I said " Oh!" i went to the back ate my lunch and never again asked another question about hairy flat chested women.

[Tito]

Perry was always a drag on the band. Everyone thought he was a fruit and it made it hard for us Journey fans to defend him and the band because of it. That is why, they could've moved on in '87 after he left. They could've got that anchor around them finally removed and take off. No one ever called Neal a fag.

[madsplash]

Perry was always a drag on the band. Everyone thought he was a fruit and it made it hard for us Journey fans to defend him and the band because of it. That is why, they could've moved on in '87 after he left. They could've got that anchor around them finally removed and take off. No one ever called Neal a fag.

A drag? Without him you would have gone to see them in 500 seat clubs, not at Reunion Arena or the Summit.

We know Neal's not a fag, just a loser alcholic who's been divorced a thousand times.

"Us" Journey fans had no need to defend SP. He's the greatest rock singer of all time. No defense needed for that.

[Michigan Girl]

Perry was always a drag on the band. Everyone thought he was a fruit and it made it hard for us Journey fans to defend him and the band because of it. That is why, they could've moved on in '87 after he left. They could've got that anchor around them finally removed and take off. No one ever called Neal a fag.

A drag? Without him you would have gone to see them in 500 seat clubs, not at Reunion Arena or the Summit.

We know Neal's not a fag, just a loser alcholic who's been divorced a thousand times.

"Us" Journey fans had no need to defend SP. He's the greatest rock singer of all time. No defense needed for that.

Madsplah...you go!!! :wink:

[annpea]

Perry was always a drag on the band. Everyone thought he was a fruit and it made it hard for us Journey fans to defend him and the band because of it. That is why, they could've moved on in '87 after he left. They could've got that anchor around them finally removed and take off. No one ever called Neal a fag.

A drag? Without him you would have gone to see them in 500 seat clubs, not at Reunion Arena or the Summit.

We know Neal's not a fag, just a loser alcholic who's been divorced a thousand times.

"Us" Journey fans had no need to defend SP. He's the greatest rock singer of all time. No defense needed for that.

If being driven and a bit of a perfectionist; is a crime worth throwing a wonderfully talented singer away for then I can't see how anyone with those kind of thoughts could call themselves a true Journey fan. Here''s a good thought concerning SP and Journey * They all fucked up in one way or another* but that doesn't stop me from loving each and everyone of them for the amazing talent that each and everyone of them brought to the Journey table. I haven't yet found a way to block anyone of them out of anyone of the songs that they recorded together; and since I can't do that I will just enjoy all the beautiful music that Journey has created from the rooter to the tooter.

[Tito]

Perry was always a drag on the band. Everyone thought he was a fruit and it made it hard for us Journey fans to defend him and the band because of it. That is why, they could've moved on in '87 after he left. They could've got that anchor around them finally removed and take off. No one ever called Neal a fag.

A drag? Without him you would have gone to see them in 500 seat clubs, not at Reunion Arena or the Summit.

We know Neal's not a fag, just a loser alcholic who's been divorced a thousand times.

"Us" Journey fans had no need to defend SP. He's the greatest rock singer of all time. No defense needed for that.

YOU WATCH YOUR MOUTH! NEAL SCHON IS NOT A LOSER!

[annpea]

Perry was always a drag on the band. Everyone thought he was a fruit and it made it hard for us Journey fans to defend him and the band because of it. That is why, they could've moved on in '87 after he left. They could've got that anchor around them finally removed and take off. No one ever called Neal a fag.

A drag? Without him you would have gone to see them in 500 seat clubs, not at Reunion Arena or the Summit.

We know Neal's not a fag, just a loser alcholic who's been divorced a thousand times.

"Us" Journey fans had no need to defend SP. He's the greatest rock singer of all time. No defense needed for that.

YOU WATCH YOUR MOUTH! NEAL SCHON IS NOT A LOSER!

Tito, you're on the payroll aren't you?

[madsplash]

.[/quote]

YOU WATCH YOUR MOUTH! NEAL SCHON IS NOT A LOSER! [/quote]

Sure is. One of the greatest/most influental guitarists of our time, but he's a hell of a loser/prick.

IMO opinion, when he saw the slightest chance to not keep being overshadowed by SP, he issued the ultimatum. When SP told him to go fuck himself, he got what he wanted.

The coolest thing with the current Journey success, is that Steve is getting paid just the same as the active members. And why not? He's still THE sound of Journey. Nothing Neal can do can ever change that, and I know that pisses Neal off. He's great, but he'll never be called "The Guitarist".

[Saint John]

He's great, but he'll never be called "The Guitarist".

He'll never be called a quitter either.

[Tito]

Sure is. One of the greatest/most influental guitarists of our time, but he's a hell of a loser/prick.

IMO opinion, when he saw the slightest chance to not keep being overshadowed by SP, he issued the ultimatum. When SP told him to go fuck himself, he got what he wanted.

The coolest thing with the current Journey success, is that Steve is getting paid just the same as the active members. And why not? He's still THE sound of Journey. Nothing Neal can do can ever change that, and I know that pisses Neal off. He's great, but he'll never be called "The Guitarist".

Are you nuts?

[Don]

He's great, but he'll never be called "The Guitarist".

He'll never be called a quitter either.

+1

[madsplash]

He's great, but he'll never be called "The Guitarist".

He'll never be called a quitter either.

Quit what? Carrying other members to greater fame and riches than they would've ever known? I guess he DID quit that.

Neal is my favorite guitar player ever, but I'll always be pissed at him for being an impatient prick. He ruined great new music that we'll never get to hear. I like Revelation, but the new songs on there aren't 10% as good as when SP/JC and NS were writing.

Quitter? Whatever and even if you do call SP that, you need to say "The Quitter".

[Saint John]

Quit what?

TBF era Journey. And arguably Journey in 1984.

Carrying other members to greater fame and riches than they would've ever known?

Last time I checked Neal left Santana to form his own band. Perry joined Neal's band, dickhead...not the other way around. Besides, Neal was offered a guitar job in Santana (which he accepted for a period of time) and he was also offered a gig in Derek and The Dominos. Perry's greatest offer pre-Journey was a gig on a farm.

Neal is my favorite guitar player ever, but I'll always be pissed at him for being an impatient prick.

Neal waited for Steve Perry to tour with Journey again from 1984 to 1998. That's 14 years!!! In between that he saw Perry tour with a lineup of nobody's and break up the Chalfant/Rolie incarnation. Are you seriously suggesting that he should have waited longer? To date, Perry hasn't released one album since Journey gave him an ultimatum. That certainly suggests that he can't sing, doesn't want to sing and/or is creatively bankrupt.

Quitter? Whatever

Perry had given up on himself and was working on a turkey farm when Herbie, the manager of Neal's band, gave him a call. Neal was, and still is, the nucleus of Journey.

[Tito]

He's great, but he'll never be called "The Guitarist".

He'll never be called a quitter either.

Quit what? Carrying other members to greater fame and riches than they would've ever known? I guess he DID quit that.

Neal is my favorite guitar player ever, but I'll always be pissed at him for being an impatient prick. He ruined great new music that we'll never get to hear. I like Revelation, but the new songs on there aren't 10% as good as when SP/JC and NS were writing.

Quitter? Whatever and even if you do call SP that, you need to say "The Quitter".

Impatient!?! They waited nearly 10 fuckin' years for him. Then, nearly another 2 years after he fall down and go boom.