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by **KDOUBLEU** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:33 am

I just heard The Partys Over on our local Classic Rock station. I cant remember if Ive ever heard it on the radio before. I gotta say I still like the old Journey best. It makes me miss the good old days.....

by **Don** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:36 am

KDOUBLEU wrote:I just heard The Partys Over on our local Classic Rock station. I cant remember if Ive ever heard it on the radio before. I gotta say I still like the old Journey best. It makes me miss the good old days.....

Back in the day, I remember them playing it on WMMR in Philadelphia . It was actually a Top 40 hit.

It made an appearance in the film, Grown Ups this past year.

by **Saint John** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:49 am

Perry's crowning moment, and the band, as a whole, is just fabulous on this one. Neal's solo on this one from the Japanese gigs is every bit as good, and to to me better, as the end of WCN.

by **Gideon** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:50 am

Saint John wrote:Perry's crowning moment,

Not even close, but old people have weird tastes, right Uncle Dan? :twisted:

Saint John wrote:and the band, as a whole, is just fabulous on this one. Neal's solo on this one from the Japanese gigs is every bit as good, and to to me better, as the end of WCN.

It's great tune.

by **Saint John** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:52 am

I meant as a songwriter, Gideon. Pardon moi.

by **Gideon** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:54 am

Saint John wrote:I meant as a songwriter, Gideon. Pardon moi.

Well I can agree it's better than the fecal masterpiece that is LTS. :lol:

by **Don** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:56 am

It's a little bit structured like She's A Mystery except Neal's more in control on his solo and not just shredding to shred like he does on a lot of Eclipse.

by **Gideon** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:02 am

Don wrote:It's a little bit structured like She's A Mystery

Really? I think 'Patiently' is a analog for 'She's a Mystery' than this one, personally.

Don wrote:except Neal's more in control on his solo and not just shredding to shred like he does on a lot of Eclipse.

Pssh, I'm going to respectfully disagree and side with this one fella who reviewed Eclipse a while back:

Don wrote:Neal plays with passion and fire but doesn't fall into the bad habit he does live of making this a total shredfest. The notes are clear and concise and will take you back to those early days when Neal could captivate an audience all by himself.

Look familar? :lol:

by **Don** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:17 am

Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:It's a little bit structured like She's A Mystery

Really? I think 'Patiently' is a analog for 'She's a Mystery' than this one, personally.

Don wrote:except Neal's more in control on his solo and not just shredding to shred like he does on a lot of Eclipse.

Pssh, I'm going to respectfully disagree and side with this one fella who reviewed Eclipse a while back:

Don wrote:Neal plays with passion and fire but doesn't fall into the bad habit he does live of making this a total shredfest. The notes are clear and concise and will take you back to those early days when Neal could captivate an audience all by himself.

Look familar?

As I said, Neal doesn't make Eclipse a TOTAL shredfest but he does do a LOT of shredding. See how I avoided using definitives there.
Passion and fire? Clear and concise? Man, did I really write that? :lol:

by **Gideon** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:20 am

Don wrote:As I said, Neal doesn't make Eclipse a TOTAL shredfest but he does do a LOT of shredding. See how I avoided using definitives there.

Definitely, but the two messages implicate contradictory messages.
But, then again, one could say I'm a petty, pedantic sonuvabitch. :twisted:

Don wrote:Passion and fire? Clear and concise? Man, did I really write that?

You did and it's forever on record.
What's it feel like, paying Neal a compliment and knowing you can never take it back? :lol:

by **Don** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:26 am

Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:As I said, Neal doesn't make Eclipse a TOTAL shredfest but he does do a LOT of shredding. See how I avoided using definitives there.

Definitely, but the two messages implicate contradictory messages.
But, then again, one could say I'm a petty, pedantic sonuvabitch.

Well, that's why I do it, to try and make it Gideon proof.

Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Passion and fire? Clear and concise? Man, did I really write that?

You did and it's forever on record.
What's it feel like, paying Neal a compliment and knowing you can never take it back?

I did more than that, I actually went to one of his solo shows last year.

by **Gideon** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:28 am

Don wrote:Well, that's why I do it, to try and make it Gideon proof.

You're a worthy adversary.

Don wrote:I did more than that, I actually went to one of his solo shows last year.

I bet that was pretty intimate: One man on stage, one man in the audience.... :lol:

by **conversationpc** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:29 am

Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Well, that's why I do it, to try and make it Gideon proof.

You're a worthy adversary.

Don wrote:I did more than that, I actually went to one of his solo shows last year.

I bet that was pretty intimate: One man on stage, one man in the audience....

BWAHAHAHAHA!!! :lol:

I love Neal's solo work but that is some funny stuff there.

by **tater1977** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:32 am

Gideon wrote:[quote=I bet that was pretty intimate: One man on stage, one man in the audience....

LOL Gideon I just covered me laptop in coffee...too funny...

by **Gideon** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:32 am

conversationpc wrote:BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

I love Neal's solo work but that is some funny stuff there.

You never have the same reaction to my corny jokes about Journey-Eclipse and Soto's gay titles with Arabic numerals in them. :evil:

by **conversationpc** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:34 am

Gideon wrote:
conversationpc wrote:BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

I love Neal's solo work but that is some funny stuff there.

You never have the same reaction to my corny jokes about Journey-Eclipse and Soto's gay titles with Arabic numerals in them.

Soto's song titles are DEFINITELY annoying.

by **Don** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:34 am

Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Well, that's why I do it, to try and make it Gideon proof.

You're a worthy adversary.

Don wrote:I did more than that, I actually went to one of his solo shows last year.

I bet that was pretty intimate: One man on stage, one man in the audience....

Unfortunately, I didn't pull a stevew2 and sport a pink FRO- shirt to try and catch Neal's eye.

Cain's the only one that can get that kind of attention.

by **Gideon** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:39 am

Don wrote:Unfortunately, I didn't pull a stevew2 and sport a pink FRO- shirt to try and catch Neal's eye.

I was pretty close to Neal on stage in Louisville '09 and I can tell you that you'll only get his attention one of two ways:

(1.) Knowing all the words to the new songs
(2.) Having a nice rack and a low-cut shirt

No comments on which tactic I used, smartasses! :evil:

by **Ehwmatt** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:05 am

Best Journey song.

by **conversationpc** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:07 am

I've always loved Neal's intro to that song and Perry's vocals...Other than that, the song is too much in the pop direction and not enough rock for me.

by **STORY_TELLER** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:16 pm

One of my favorite Journey songs. I actually prefer the live version with the jam session at the end. Here's the band firing all 8 cylinders -- the song just grooves. Pure musical chemistry. It should be noted Smitty nailed this groove right after finishing his killer drum solo. Amazing stamina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B4u361NPXs

by **conversationpc** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:35 pm

STORY_TELLER wrote:One of my favorite Journey songs. I actually prefer the live version with the jam session at the end. Here's the band firing all 8 cylinders -- the song just grooves. Pure musical chemistry. It should be noted Smitty nailed this groove right after finishing his killer drum solo. Amazing stamina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B4u361NPXs

Excellent...That version kicks so much more ass than the studio version.

by **Deb** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:36 pm

STORY_TELLER wrote:One of my favorite Journey songs. I actually prefer the live version with the jam session at the end. Here's the band firing all 8 cylinders -- the song just grooves. Pure musical chemistry. It should be noted Smitty nailed this groove right after finishing his killer drum solo. Amazing stamina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B4u361NPXs

My gawd, that's some good stuff right there!

Time to pull that show out again. Probably one of the only shows that has a live version of Lay It Down too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3rQAcId ... re=related

by **portland** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:12 am

Deb wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:One of my favorite Journey songs. I actually prefer the live version with the jam session at the end. Here's the band firing all 8 cylinders -- the song just grooves. Pure musical chemistry. It should be noted Smitty nailed this groove right after finishing his killer drum solo. Amazing stamina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B4u361NPXs

My gawd, that's some good stuff right there! Time to pull that show out again. Probably one of the only shows that has a live version of Lay It Down too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3rQAcId ... re=related

Sigh the good old days!

by **conversationpc** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:23 am

Deb wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:One of my favorite Journey songs. I actually prefer the live version with the jam session at the end. Here's the band firing all 8 cylinders -- the song just grooves. Pure musical chemistry. It should be noted Smitty nailed this groove right after finishing his killer drum solo. Amazing stamina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B4u361NPXs

My gawd, that's some good stuff right there! Time to pull that show out again. Probably one of the only shows that has a live version of Lay It Down too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3rQAcId ... re=related

That song kicks ass...It's also one of the few examples of Perry using falsetto.

by **Arkansas** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:06 pm

Isn't there a story somewhere about Smitty not even playing on this song? Or, writing the drum line, but not actually recording it? I dunno. Seems like read that somewhere.

later~

by **STORY_TELLER** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:13 am

Arkansas wrote:Isn't there a story somewhere about Smitty not even playing on this song? Or, writing the drum line, but not actually recording it? I dunno. Seems like read that somewhere.

later~

I heard it was recorded between Rollie's exit and Cain's entrance and that some studio session player was on keys on the studio track. Never anything about the drumming though.

by **tater1977** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:36 am

STORY_TELLER wrote:
Arkansas wrote:Isn't there a story somewhere about Smitty not even playing on this song? Or, writing the drum line, but not actually recording it? I dunno. Seems like read that somewhere.

later~

I heard it was recorded between Rollie's exit and Cain's entrance and that some studio session player was on keys on the studio track. Never anything about the drumming though.

Stevie "Keys" Roseman was the keyboard player that played on the studio track I believe.

by **madsplash** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:22 am

conversationpc wrote:
Deb wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:One of my favorite Journey songs. I actually prefer the live version with the jam session at the end. Here's the band firing all 8 cylinders -- the song just grooves. Pure musical chemistry. It should be noted Smitty nailed this groove right after finishing his killer drum solo. Amazing stamina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B4u361NPXs

My gawd, that's some good stuff right there! Time to pull that show out again. Probably one of the only shows that has a live version of Lay It Down too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3rQAcId ... re=related

That song kicks ass...It's also one of the few examples of Perry using falsetto.

Jesus. I love Arnel, but can you imagine him singing like that? Never been a time in his life he could do that.

SP..............................THE FUCKING MASTER!

by **KDOUBLEU** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:34 am

STORY_TELLER wrote:One of my favorite Journey songs. I actually prefer the live version with the jam session at the end. Here's the band firing all 8 cylinders -- the song just grooves. Pure musical chemistry. It should be noted Smitty nailed this groove right after finishing his killer drum solo. Amazing stamina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B4u361NPXs

Yep good good stuff right there...

MR

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