Why isn't the band playing SOMEONE live??

[jrnyjetster]

Fantastic song! I crank up the volume on this track all the time, great cruisin' tune!
IF marketed right, I think this song definitely has the potential to become a monster hit, in my opinion. It has all the "Journey ingredients".

[scarab]

i think they thought COH was the big anthem on the record, which its not.
Someone sounds a little too much like Revelation, not sure why they put it on there, its def not a b side Frontiers.
(but it think its real good love the harmonies on the last verse) Resonate is the song that should be given to radio. It rocks, has a big chorus and sounds very Journey like.

[Toph]

i think they thought COH was the big anthem on the record, which its not.
Someone sounds a little too much like Revelation, not sure why they put it on there, its def not a b side Frontiers.
(but it think its real good love the harmonies on the last verse) Resonate is the song that should be given to radio. It rocks, has a big chorus and sounds very Journey like.

Resonate sounds nothing like classic Journey.

[scarab]

Classic Journey no,
B side Frontiers, yes, thats what they wanted.

Its very much Edge of the blade, Ask the lonely, Rubicon and even Sep ways.

[Archetype]

Because they've dedicated this year to making some of the worst decisions possible with regard to singles and setlists.

[Jubilee]

i think they thought COH was the big anthem on the record, which its not.
Someone sounds a little too much like Revelation, not sure why they put it on there, its def not a b side Frontiers.
(but it think its real good love the harmonies on the last verse) Resonate is the song that should be given to radio. It rocks, has a big chorus and sounds very Journey like.

Resonate sounds nothing like classic Journey.

I agree with you both! Resonate sounds nothing like "Classic Journey" AND it SHOULD be a radio release. I guess Journey is going to have to decide what it wants be be when it grows up. They can try to maintain the legacy sound, which was well suited for the '80's, OR they can move forward with a more contemporary sound.

[slucero]

Because they've dedicated this year to making some of the worst decisions possible with regard to singles and setlists.

[jrnyjetster]

I agree with you both! Resonate sounds nothing like "Classic Journey" AND it SHOULD be a radio release. I guess Journey is going to have to decide what it wants be be when it grows up. They can try to maintain the legacy sound, which was well suited for the '80's, OR they can move forward with a more contemporary sound.

DEFINE "contemporary"
When Journey attempts to move forward with a more progressive edgier sound, as they have with Eclipse, you hear people bitch that it doesn't sound like Journey! So which is it? Are these people who are doing all the complaining actually stuck in the '80s themselves and refuse to move forward with this band?

[Don]

I agree with you both! Resonate sounds nothing like "Classic Journey" AND it SHOULD be a radio release. I guess Journey is going to have to decide what it wants be be when it grows up. They can try to maintain the legacy sound, which was well suited for the '80's, OR they can move forward with a more contemporary sound.

DEFINE "contemporary"
When Journey attempts to move forward with a more progressive edgier sound, as they have with Eclipse, you hear people bitch that it doesn't sound like Journey! So which is it? Are these people who are doing all the complaining actually stuck in the '80s themselves and refuse to move forward with this band?

In two months, Eclipse has moved a total of 60,000 albums, perhaps 85k if you throw in the overseas numbers.
Sales have actually decreased since the U.S. tour began. That's 800,000 less than what Revelation moved. There appears to be a lot of people stuck in the '80s besides the few people complaining on this site.

[RedWingFan]

I agree with you both! Resonate sounds nothing like "Classic Journey" AND it SHOULD be a radio release. I guess Journey is going to have to decide what it wants be be when it grows up. They can try to maintain the legacy sound, which was well suited for the '80's, OR they can move forward with a more contemporary sound.

DEFINE "contemporary"
When Journey attempts to move forward with a more progressive edgier sound, as they have with Eclipse, you hear people bitch that it doesn't sound like Journey! So which is it? Are these people who are doing all the complaining actually stuck in the '80s themselves and refuse to move forward with this band?

In two months, Eclipse has moved a total of 60,000 albums, perhaps 85k if you throw in the overseas numbers.
Sales have actually decreased since the U.S. tour began. That's 800,000 less than what Revelation moved. There appears to be a lot of people stuck in the '80s besides the few people complaining on this site.

Dude, get with it. People aren't buying it not because of the content. It's because the disc wasn't properly promoted. The people attending the "Eclipse tour" obviously don't pay attention properly either. They're probably chatting, texting, or playing Angry Birds when the band mentions the new songs off the new cd.

[WykkedSensation]

i think they thought COH was the big anthem on the record, which its not.
Someone sounds a little too much like Revelation, not sure why they put it on there, its def not a b side Frontiers.
(but it think its real good love the harmonies on the last verse) Resonate is the song that should be given to radio. It rocks, has a big chorus and sounds very Journey like.

Resonate sounds nothing like classic Journey.

I agree with you both! Resonate sounds nothing like "Classic Journey" AND it SHOULD be a radio release. I guess Journey is going to have to decide what it wants be be when it grows up. They can try to maintain the legacy sound, which was well suited for the '80's, OR they can move forward with a more contemporary sound.

I'm sorry but i don't understand this.
In my opinion you DO NOT move forward with a different sound when you are pickin up your pension. How much longer do you think these guys are gonna go? You stick at what the fans love you for and in this case it's the 'legacy sound'.
You don't go for a whole new thing at this stage.
Classic rock bands are still selling ok by doing what they are best at, and most do not divert from their legacy sound. If they do they fail.

[WykkedSensation]

I agree with you both! Resonate sounds nothing like "Classic Journey" AND it SHOULD be a radio release. I guess Journey is going to have to decide what it wants be be when it grows up. They can try to maintain the legacy sound, which was well suited for the '80's, OR they can move forward with a more contemporary sound.

DEFINE "contemporary"
When Journey attempts to move forward with a more progressive edgier sound, as they have with Eclipse, you hear people bitch that it doesn't sound like Journey! So which is it? Are these people who are doing all the complaining actually stuck in the '80s themselves and refuse to move forward with this band?

In two months, Eclipse has moved a total of 60,000 albums, perhaps 85k if you throw in the overseas numbers.
Sales have actually decreased since the U.S. tour began. That's 800,000 less than what Revelation moved. There appears to be a lot of people stuck in the '80s besides the few people complaining on this site.

Dude, get with it. People aren't buying it not because of the content. It's because the disc wasn't properly promoted. The people attending the "Eclipse tour" obviously don't pay attention properly either. They're probably chatting, texting, or playing Angry Birds when the band mentions the new songs off the new cd.

They don't pay attention because they wanna hear the legacy sound and the classic hits. That is the reason they don't pay attention.
They were certainly paying more attention during the 'Revelation' tour. Because Revelation appealed to the concert going 'legacy sounding' Journey fan maybe?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Because Revelation appealed to the concert going 'legacy sounding' Journey fan maybe?

Revelation included covers of some of the biggest rock songs in history (AWYWI, WITS, DSB etc etc). That's why it sold like crazy. End of story.

[WykkedSensation]

Because Revelation appealed to the concert going 'legacy sounding' Journey fan maybe?

Revelation included covers of some of the biggest rock songs in history (AWYWI, WITS, DSB etc etc). That's why it sold like crazy. End of story.

Don't agree. Not saying that didn't have an effect, but that was not the reason Revelation sold what it did.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Don't agree. Not saying that didn't have an effect, but that was not the reason Revelation sold what it did.

Sure it is. The Arnel rags-to-riches sob story put the band back in the public spotlight, but it was the dozen that moved units like gangbusters.

[Gideon]

I'm sorry but i don't understand this.
In my opinion you DO NOT move forward with a different sound when you are pickin up your pension. How much longer do you think these guys are gonna go? You stick at what the fans love you for and in this case it's the 'legacy sound'.
You don't go for a whole new thing at this stage.
Classic rock bands are still selling ok by doing what they are best at, and most do not divert from their legacy sound. If they do they fail.

I'm sorry, but I don't understand this.
Journey's interested in being creative. If a person is strictly concerned with the dirty dozen and the legacy sound, pop in Escape and quit bitching. If you don't like the new songs during the show, sit down or let your astute gaze take in the splendor of urine-splattered restrooms til the song is over.
But complaining that they put out new material and seek to spread their wings is frankly asinine. By your reckoning, they should have stopped exploring new musical dimensions back in 1973.

[WykkedSensation]

Don't agree. Not saying that didn't have an effect, but that was not the reason Revelation sold what it did.

Sure it is. The Arnel rags-to-riches sob story put the band back in the public spotlight, but it was the dozen that moved units like gangbusters.

Your opinion, not mine.

[jestor92]

I'd say because the song sucks, but that's just this guy's opinion.

[jrnyjetster]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand this.
Journey's interested in being creative. If a person is strictly concerned with the dirty dozen and the legacy sound, pop in Escape and quit bitching. If you don't like the new songs during the show, sit down or let your astute gaze take in the splendor of urine-splattered restrooms til the song is over.
But complaining that they put out new material and seek to spread their wings is frankly asinine. By your reckoning, they should have stopped exploring new musical dimensions back in 1973.

So true...great post!!

[jrnyjetster]

I'd say because the song sucks, but that's just this guy's opinion.

Clean the wax out of your ears!

[Greg]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand this.
Journey's interested in being creative. If a person is strictly concerned with the dirty dozen and the legacy sound, pop in Escape and quit bitching. If you don't like the new songs during the show, sit down or let your astute gaze take in the splendor of urine-splattered restrooms til the song is over.
But complaining that they put out new material and seek to spread their wings is frankly asinine. By your reckoning, they should have stopped exploring new musical dimensions back in 1973.

If you're trying to say that Journey is more interested in being creative by making albums like Eclipse, then that's equally asinine. Because obviously you have forgotten the whole fiasco when they unceremoniously dumped JSS in favor of a singer who has more of the "legacy" sound.

Most fans who go to a Journey concert go to hear the Dirty Dozen. Case closed. Only a small portion, probably those who post on these forums, go to hear the new stuff. Journey knows this and that is why they wanted someone who had more of a "Steve Perry" tone to his voice than what Jeff did. The fact that they do play new stuff is probably a reflection of how well Revelation did (because I do agree with TNC.) Fact is, no matter how "good" the song is, if the fans don't know the song, they're not going to have a good time.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Your opinion, not mine.

A very small minority bought Revelation because of "Never Walk Away", and other retro-sounding 80's songs. If quality of material determined how many albums sold, then "Higher Place" would've pushed Arrival into triple platinum status and beyond.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I'd say because the song sucks, but that's just this guy's opinion.

Clean the wax out of your ears!

If you're a fan of classic Journey, then "Someone" is arguably the best tune on the album. Would easily fit alongside any of the Blades/Schon tracks on Arrival.

[Red13JoePa]

I want to hear Ritual when I go, that is just a fantastic song.

[RedWingFan]

I want to hear Ritual when I go, that is just a fantastic song.

Of the 2 or 3 listens I gave the cd, I think Ritual was the one song that stood out for me. Thought it was the best of the lot...which wasn't saying much.

[yulog]

I'd say because the song sucks, but that's just this guy's opinion.

[Gideon]

If you're trying to say that Journey is more interested in being creative by making albums like Eclipse, then that's equally asinine.

Well if you're under the impression that Journey isn't interested in spreading their musical wings and indulging their creativity, you're well beyond asinine or deluded, likely coursing through the stars approximate to utter retardation.

They had no financial incentive to make Eclipse beyond musical passions. The band clearly didn't expect monumental numbers through Neal's oft cited lack of regard for sales performance (though that doesn't excuse their lack of effort).

Because obviously you have forgotten the whole fiasco when they unceremoniously dumped JSS in favor of a singer who has more of the "legacy" sound.

If you're trying to say that Journey can't be musically creative and explore new territory with a singer who can also carry the weight of the old material... you catch my drift. It's not rocket science. Soto was a great singer, but didn't have the range.

Most fans who go to a Journey concert go to hear the Dirty Dozen. Case closed.

If you're trying to say that I communicated otherwise..........

Only a small portion, probably those who post on these forums, go to hear the new stuff. Journey knows this and that is why they wanted someone who had more of a "Steve Perry" tone to his voice than what Jeff did. The fact that they do play new stuff is probably a reflection of how well Revelation did (because I do agree with TNC.) Fact is, no matter how "good" the song is, if the fans don't know the song, they're not going to have a good time.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here, Greg, but you can crank your Loon dial off 11. No one's dissing Perry or the dirty dozen nor is anyone suggesting that they aren't requirements for a Journey concert.

Or the short version: Journey can put out new material and play the classics in the same concert. Who knew?

[portland]

If you're trying to say that Journey is more interested in being creative by making albums like Eclipse, then that's equally asinine.

Well if you're under the impression that Journey isn't interested in spreading their musical wings and indulging their creativity, you're well beyond asinine or deluded, likely coursing through the stars approximate to utter retardation.

They had no financial incentive to make Eclipse beyond musical passions. The band clearly didn't expect monumental numbers through Neal's oft cited lack of regard for sales performance (though that doesn't excuse their lack of effort).

Because obviously you have forgotten the whole fiasco when they unceremoniously dumped JSS in favor of a singer who has more of the "legacy" sound.

If you're trying to say that Journey can't be musically creative and explore new territory with a singer who can also carry the weight of the old material... you catch my drift. It's not rocket science. Soto was a great singer, but didn't have the range.

Most fans who go to a Journey concert go to hear the Dirty Dozen. Case closed.

If you're trying to say that I communicated otherwise..........

Only a small portion, probably those who post on these forums, go to hear the new stuff. Journey knows this and that is why they wanted someone who had more of a "Steve Perry" tone to his voice than what Jeff did. The fact that they do play new stuff is probably a reflection of how well Revelation did (because I do agree with TNC.) Fact is, no matter how "good" the song is, if the fans don't know the song, they're not going to have a good time.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here, Greg, but you can crank your Loon dial off 11. No one's dissing Perry or the dirty dozen nor is anyone suggesting that they aren't requirements for a Journey concert.

Giddy be quiet..you must have a date! No???

Leave this to the over 40 crowd!!!

[Gideon]

Giddy be quiet..you must have a date! No???

She's at work atm.

Leave this to the over 40 crowd!!!

Given the state of this country thanks to you all, I'll pass.

[WykkedSensation]

I'm sorry but i don't understand this.
In my opinion you DO NOT move forward with a different sound when you are pickin up your pension. How much longer do you think these guys are gonna go? You stick at what the fans love you for and in this case it's the 'legacy sound'.
You don't go for a whole new thing at this stage.
Classic rock bands are still selling ok by doing what they are best at, and most do not divert from their legacy sound. If they do they fail.

I'm sorry, but I don't understand this.
Journey's interested in being creative. If a person is strictly concerned with the dirty dozen and the legacy sound, pop in Escape and quit bitching. If you don't like the new songs during the show, sit down or let your astute gaze take in the splendor of urine-splattered restrooms til the song is over.
But complaining that they put out new material and seek to spread their wings is frankly asinine. By your reckoning, they should have stopped exploring new musical dimensions back in 1973.

Lmao...
Who said i wanna hear the dirty dozen?
Who's bitching?
Who said i don't like the new songs?
Who's complaining they put new material out?
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