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Postby tater1977 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:42 pm

INTERVIEW: Carlos Santana Wants To Get Steve Perry Back In Journey

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Posted April 15th, 2016 @ 8:30am

Carlos Santana couldn't be happier to be playing with Neal Schon again, and he thinks former Journey frontman Steve Perry would feel the same way.

"I dream of Neal and I going to Fresno and talking to Steve Perry," Santana said.

"If Santana can do Santana IV... there's a chemistry between Neal and Steve Perry," he says.

Listen to the clip below.


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Postby Memorex » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:53 pm

Carols must have really done a serious number of drugs all through his life and has clearly sustained much brain damage. As a native Californian, I can say unequivocally that no one, and I mean no one, dreams of going to Fresno for any reason.
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Postby tater1977 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:01 pm

Memorex wrote:Carols must have really done a serious number of drugs all through his life and has clearly sustained much brain damage. As a native Californian, I can say unequivocally that no one, and I mean no one, dreams of going to Fresno for any reason.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: INTERVIEW: Carlos Santana Wants To Get Steve Perry Back

Postby tater1977 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:19 pm

INTERVIEW: Carlos Santana and Neil Schon of Santana...and Journey

http://www.q1043.com/onair/jim-kerr-roc ... -14607904/

Posted April 15th, 2016 @ 7:50am

It's been 45 years since the release of Santana 3, but that didn't stop Journey's Neil Schon, who played on that record, from calling up his friend Carlos Santana and saying "Let's get the band back together". So after placing some calls to the rest of the original band, they were back in the studio, and today Santana IV is out.

Fresh off their Madison Square Garden show, where Neil did double duty as guitarist in Santana's band plus his own band, the two guitar greats pay us a visit.

We learned who is Santana's favorite band, why after more than 4 decades they put the original line up back together, and Carlos has a special wish for his friend Neil's band:

FULL INTERVIEW - 10.45

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Postby jrny84 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:21 am

Great interview, thanks for posting Tater!
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Postby Abitaman » Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:10 am

Would be nice the Perry back in, maybe in another 15 years.
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Postby perryswoman » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:20 am

Opps sorry just posted this
Come back Steve Perry!!
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Postby tater1977 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:24 pm

"I dream of Neal and I going to Fresno and talking to Steve Perry," Santana said.

Overheard in quarters today ...

' Wonder if that's why Perry keeps his doors locked at night ? '

:shock: :lol:
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Postby perryfan61 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:28 pm

tater1977 wrote:"I dream of Neal and I going to Fresno and talking to Steve Perry," Santana said.

Overheard in quarters today ...

' Wonder if that's why Perry keeps his doors locked at night ? '

:shock: :lol:


Hahaha :P :) :D
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:54 pm

Did anyone else catch what Neal said after Carlos's discussion about playing mediator with Steve Perry? About how he wants to get all the time frames of Journey on stage -- and "some" members of his band aren't into that -- and that he was leaving it alone "for now", but it sounds like he's not letting it go.

My interpretation of that is it has less to do with Perry and more to do with Gregg Rollie. Sounds to me like Neal wants Gregg to join them to do his era of songs, and JC would do his era of songs -- but JC is against the idea.

Assuming my interpretation is right, I'm loving where Neal is coming from. I hope he makes it happen.
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:37 pm

These guys could set aside their differences and have a one off, final concert, reuniting Steve, Gregg and the rest of the band. They wouldn't be able to find a venue big enough to hold the attendance! It would be obligatory to make a DVD. This needs to happen before everyone retires.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:43 pm

STORY_TELLER wrote:Did anyone else catch what Neal said after Carlos's discussion about playing mediator with Steve Perry? About how he wants to get all the time frames of Journey on stage -- and "some" members of his band aren't into that -- and that he was leaving it alone "for now", but it sounds like he's not letting it go.

My interpretation of that is it has less to do with Perry and more to do with Gregg Rollie. Sounds to me like Neal wants Gregg to join them to do his era of songs, and JC would do his era of songs -- but JC is against the idea.

Assuming my interpretation is right, I'm loving where Neal is coming from. I hope he makes it happen.


Weird. Rolie has joined the current lineup before for a song or two.
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Re: INTERVIEW: Carlos Santana Wants To Get Steve Perry Back

Postby George_g888 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:59 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:Did anyone else catch what Neal said after Carlos's discussion about playing mediator with Steve Perry? About how he wants to get all the time frames of Journey on stage -- and "some" members of his band aren't into that -- and that he was leaving it alone "for now", but it sounds like he's not letting it go.

My interpretation of that is it has less to do with Perry and more to do with Gregg Rollie. Sounds to me like Neal wants Gregg to join them to do his era of songs, and JC would do his era of songs -- but JC is against the idea.

Assuming my interpretation is right, I'm loving where Neal is coming from. I hope he makes it happen.


Question: Are you suggesting when they play the songs that Gregg recorded with the band that Jonathan leaves the stage? And then vice versa? Or everyone plays together?

If Neal wanted to bring Gregg out for Feeling that way/ Anytime or Just the Same Way, I don't get why Jonathan (Which is purely speculative) or anyone would object. Gregg Rolie joined them onstage in 2009 (i think) and they did JTSW.
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Re: INTERVIEW: Carlos Santana Wants To Get Steve Perry Back

Postby SF-Dano » Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:01 am

tater1977 wrote:
Memorex wrote:Carols must have really done a serious number of drugs all through his life and has clearly sustained much brain damage. As a native Californian, I can say unequivocally that no one, and I mean no one, dreams of going to Fresno for any reason.


:lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeah no one wants to go to Fresno. :D Besides, it would be a wasted trip, since I believe Perry lives in the San Diego area these days. (La Jolla I think).
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:38 am

George_g888 wrote:Question: Are you suggesting when they play the songs that Gregg recorded with the band that Jonathan leaves the stage? And then vice versa? Or everyone plays together?



I'm thinking that's what Neal is talking about, but it's a pure guess of course. Go and listen to what Neal said in the interview and tell me what you think he meant. Who else in the band would object to different eras of Journey? It doesn't affect Ross. It doesn't affect Smitty. Certainly not Arnel, because there's no way Perry joins -- so that leaves....?

As to what I'd like to see -- well, yeah, I'd love to see both the Rollie and Cain era's jamming out on stage. That's really up to the guys to decide, but, in the end it depends on what Neal really means by his statement. If it's about a walk on to recreate the lineup that recorded a song or two being played in the moment, then yeah, why not let Cain take a breath? I don't think it diminishes him or his contributions to the band.

If it's about Gregg joining the tour for a set full of his era songs on a regular basis, well I could see Cain's objection -- but a compromise is to have Cain stay on stage and play rhythm guitar when Gregg is on the keyboard. Let the group dump the click track and jam out a bit -- like they USED to. That would be a celebration of Journey's history to me.

As for Perry, well nothing would make me happier than to see him bury the hatchet with Neal and work on new stuff together (per Carlos's suggestion) -- but I'd also love to win the Powerball Lottery, and I think the chances of either happening are pretty equal. :D
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:05 am

SF-Dano wrote:Yeah no one wants to go to Fresno. :D Besides, it would be a wasted trip, since I believe Perry lives in the San Diego area these days. (La Jolla I think).


I was under the same impression, that Perry was in or around San Diego.
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Postby George_g888 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:39 am

STORY_TELLER wrote:
George_g888 wrote:Question: Are you suggesting when they play the songs that Gregg recorded with the band that Jonathan leaves the stage? And then vice versa? Or everyone plays together?



I'm thinking that's what Neal is talking about, but it's a pure guess of course. Go and listen to what Neal said in the interview and tell me what you think he meant. Who else in the band would object to different eras of Journey? It doesn't affect Ross. It doesn't affect Smitty. Certainly not Arnel, because there's no way Perry joins -- so that leaves....?

As to what I'd like to see -- well, yeah, I'd love to see both the Rollie and Cain era's jamming out on stage. That's really up to the guys to decide, but, in the end it depends on what Neal really means by his statement. If it's about a walk on to recreate the lineup that recorded a song or two being played in the moment, then yeah, why not let Cain take a breath? I don't think it diminishes him or his contributions to the band.

If it's about Gregg joining the tour for a set full of his era songs on a regular basis, well I could see Cain's objection -- but a compromise is to have Cain stay on stage and play rhythm guitar when Gregg is on the keyboard. Let the group dump the click track and jam out a bit -- like they USED to. That would be a celebration of Journey's history to me.

As for Perry, well nothing would make me happier than to see him bury the hatchet with Neal and work on new stuff together (per Carlos's suggestion) -- but I'd also love to win the Powerball Lottery, and I think the chances of either happening are pretty equal. :D





Ross and Smith would object to the Raised on Radio era, one could think. Maybe that's why the band rarely plays material off that album other than "Be Good To Yourself".

Gregg has joined the group onstage a couple of times since 2009, and Cain stayed onstage.. I don't get why anybody would have a problem with doing this again for a couple of songs with these Journey/Santana shows.

We need to consider Neal was saying this. I've noticed that he tends to exaggerate when he talks. For example, during the fall of 2015 he commented on a Facebook post and said that ABC was going to air a documentary on him in early 2016. He made it sound like this was going to air nationally. Obviously that didn't happen and it only aired on an ABC affiliate in Utah, i think.

Finally, is there a video anywhere where this click track that is always being discussed on here is noticeable? I've never been able to tell the difference...
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Postby George_g888 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:40 am

George_g888 wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:
George_g888 wrote:Question: Are you suggesting when they play the songs that Gregg recorded with the band that Jonathan leaves the stage? And then vice versa? Or everyone plays together?



I'm thinking that's what Neal is talking about, but it's a pure guess of course. Go and listen to what Neal said in the interview and tell me what you think he meant. Who else in the band would object to different eras of Journey? It doesn't affect Ross. It doesn't affect Smitty. Certainly not Arnel, because there's no way Perry joins -- so that leaves....?

As to what I'd like to see -- well, yeah, I'd love to see both the Rollie and Cain era's jamming out on stage. That's really up to the guys to decide, but, in the end it depends on what Neal really means by his statement. If it's about a walk on to recreate the lineup that recorded a song or two being played in the moment, then yeah, why not let Cain take a breath? I don't think it diminishes him or his contributions to the band.

If it's about Gregg joining the tour for a set full of his era songs on a regular basis, well I could see Cain's objection -- but a compromise is to have Cain stay on stage and play rhythm guitar when Gregg is on the keyboard. Let the group dump the click track and jam out a bit -- like they USED to. That would be a celebration of Journey's history to me.

As for Perry, well nothing would make me happier than to see him bury the hatchet with Neal and work on new stuff together (per Carlos's suggestion) -- but I'd also love to win the Powerball Lottery, and I think the chances of either happening are pretty equal. :D





Ross and Smith would object to the Raised on Radio era, one could think. Maybe that's why the band rarely plays material off that album other than "Be Good To Yourself".

Gregg has joined the group onstage a couple of times since 2009, and Cain stayed onstage.. I don't get why anybody would have a problem with doing this again for a couple of songs with these Journey/Santana shows.

We need to consider Neal was saying this. I've noticed that he tends to exaggerate when he talks. For example, during the fall of 2015 he commented on a Facebook post and said that ABC was going to air a documentary on him in early 2016. He made it sound like this was going to air nationally. Obviously that didn't happen and it only aired on an ABC affiliate in Utah, i think.

Finally, is there a video anywhere where this click track that is always being discussed on here is noticeable? I've never been able to tell the difference...


this is a part of that documentary i was referring to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-QrxKgTogo
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:05 am

George_g888 wrote:Ross and Smith would object to the Raised on Radio era, one could think. Maybe that's why the band rarely plays material off that album other than "Be Good To Yourself".

Gregg has joined the group onstage a couple of times since 2009, and Cain stayed onstage.. I don't get why anybody would have a problem with doing this again for a couple of songs with these Journey/Santana shows.

We need to consider Neal was saying this. I've noticed that he tends to exaggerate when he talks. For example, during the fall of 2015 he commented on a Facebook post and said that ABC was going to air a documentary on him in early 2016. He made it sound like this was going to air nationally. Obviously that didn't happen and it only aired on an ABC affiliate in Utah, i think.

Finally, is there a video anywhere where this click track that is always being discussed on here is noticeable? I've never been able to tell the difference...


I really doubt Ross or Smitty would care. Smitty has been over the whole "rock" thing for a long time. His heart is in Jazz and he intends to return to it at the end of 2017. Based on Ross's interview in the Arnel documentary, he seems to poo-poo ego and control, and the only album he didn't play on is Raised on Radio. The bottom line is, they're both very laid back, so I don't believe they are the source of the problem. I could be wrong, but I just don't see it.

A lot of disagreements go on between Cain and Schon, so that's why I'm thinking Neal is referencing Jon in his comment. It is possible Neal was exaggerating, but based on what was said, and that he wasn't giving up on his idea, I doubt it.

I don't have a video reference for you (maybe someone else might). But if you google Herbie Herbert melodic rock interview, you'll see him discuss it in there with Andrew. He details what's involved and how it affects how the band plays.
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Postby perryfan61 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:59 am

STORY_TELLER wrote:
SF-Dano wrote:Yeah no one wants to go to Fresno. :D Besides, it would be a wasted trip, since I believe Perry lives in the San Diego area these days. (La Jolla I think).


I was under the same impression, that Perry was in or around San Diego.


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Postby Journey/Survivor » Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:56 pm

Since in addition to keyboards, Rolie is also a great lead-vocalist and background-vocalist, and in addition to keyboards, Cain is also a decent rhythm guitarist and background-vocalist, I wouldn't think that there should be any real problem with Cain and Rolie staying on stage at the same time.

It would be hypocritical of Cain to object to having Rolie back in the band (With Cain still in the band) seeing as Cain seems to want nothing to do with recording/releasing new Journey songs. Cain should either get to work on writing/recording/releasing new Journey material, or step aside and let Rolie take over. Or better yet, Journey get to work on new material with both Cain and Rolie in the band.
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Journey/Survivor wrote:Since in addition to keyboards, Rolie is also a great lead-vocalist and background-vocalist, and in addition to keyboards, Cain is also a decent rhythm guitarist and background-vocalist, I wouldn't think that there should be any real problem with Cain and Rolie staying on stage at the same time.

It would be hypocritical of Cain to object to having Rolie back in the band (With Cain still in the band) seeing as Cain seems to want nothing to do with recording/releasing new Journey songs. Cain should either get to work on writing/recording/releasing new Journey material, or step aside and let Rolie take over. Or better yet, Journey get to work on new material with both Cain and Rolie in the band.


My impression from Neal's comment was that it was confined to the context of touring. I personally would love to see Neal write some new songs with Gregg in their blues groove vein, especially with Smitty in the mix, but I don't think that's what he meant with his statement.
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STORY_TELLER wrote:
Journey/Survivor wrote:Since in addition to keyboards, Rolie is also a great lead-vocalist and background-vocalist, and in addition to keyboards, Cain is also a decent rhythm guitarist and background-vocalist, I wouldn't think that there should be any real problem with Cain and Rolie staying on stage at the same time.

It would be hypocritical of Cain to object to having Rolie back in the band (With Cain still in the band) seeing as Cain seems to want nothing to do with recording/releasing new Journey songs. Cain should either get to work on writing/recording/releasing new Journey material, or step aside and let Rolie take over. Or better yet, Journey get to work on new material with both Cain and Rolie in the band.


My impression from Neal's comment was that it was confined to the context of touring. I personally would love to see Neal write some new songs with Gregg in their blues groove vein, especially with Smitty in the mix, but I don't think that's what he meant with his statement.



No. I understood that Neal's comment was about touring. My point was that if Cain is not willing to work on releasing new Journey songs, then he needs to step aside for someone who will work on new songs with Journey. I have a problem with a guy who wants to only half-heartedly work with Journey, who also objects to bringing in a beloved former member of the band that plays the same instrument. Cain should be all-in or all-out, or else share duties with Rolie.
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Journey/Survivor wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:
Journey/Survivor wrote:Since in addition to keyboards, Rolie is also a great lead-vocalist and background-vocalist, and in addition to keyboards, Cain is also a decent rhythm guitarist and background-vocalist, I wouldn't think that there should be any real problem with Cain and Rolie staying on stage at the same time.

It would be hypocritical of Cain to object to having Rolie back in the band (With Cain still in the band) seeing as Cain seems to want nothing to do with recording/releasing new Journey songs. Cain should either get to work on writing/recording/releasing new Journey material, or step aside and let Rolie take over. Or better yet, Journey get to work on new material with both Cain and Rolie in the band.


My impression from Neal's comment was that it was confined to the context of touring. I personally would love to see Neal write some new songs with Gregg in their blues groove vein, especially with Smitty in the mix, but I don't think that's what he meant with his statement.


It's ironic that we are talking about Cain dragging his feet on keeping the band moving forward. 20 years ago he was having the same issues with Perry.
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Postby George_g888 » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:49 am

Journey/Survivor wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:
Journey/Survivor wrote:Since in addition to keyboards, Rolie is also a great lead-vocalist and background-vocalist, and in addition to keyboards, Cain is also a decent rhythm guitarist and background-vocalist, I wouldn't think that there should be any real problem with Cain and Rolie staying on stage at the same time.

It would be hypocritical of Cain to object to having Rolie back in the band (With Cain still in the band) seeing as Cain seems to want nothing to do with recording/releasing new Journey songs. Cain should either get to work on writing/recording/releasing new Journey material, or step aside and let Rolie take over. Or better yet, Journey get to work on new material with both Cain and Rolie in the band.


My impression from Neal's comment was that it was confined to the context of touring. I personally would love to see Neal write some new songs with Gregg in their blues groove vein, especially with Smitty in the mix, but I don't think that's what he meant with his statement.



No. I understood that Neal's comment was about touring. My point was that if Cain is not willing to work on releasing new Journey songs, then he needs to step aside for someone who will work on new songs with Journey. I have a problem with a guy who wants to only half-heartedly work with Journey, who also objects to bringing in a beloved former member of the band that plays the same instrument. Cain should be all-in or all-out, or else share duties with Rolie.


I completely agree with and understand Cain being hesitant for recording new Journey material. We have to face reality.... Other than the die hards, there is no market for it, it won't sell well.. At this point it will cost to much money to make an album for it to sell poorly like eclipse did...
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Postby Journey/Survivor » Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:13 pm

There seem to be plenty of other bands/solo-artists that continue to release new albums to this very day, despite the fact that they can't sell as many copies of their albums as 2016 Journey would be capable of selling.

As of the moment, Journey are just a touring jukebox.

Money seems to be Cain's only motivation anymore, which is sad. :(
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Postby Abitaman » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:54 pm

Were not Cain, Rollie, Schon, Smith, Valory, and Chalfant in the Journey line up before Perry came back (pre TBF), which Chalfant had to leave? My understanding is that Rollie then left, since he really did not want to work with Perry again.
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:23 am

Journey/Survivor wrote:No. I understood that Neal's comment was about touring. My point was that if Cain is not willing to work on releasing new Journey songs, then he needs to step aside for someone who will work on new songs with Journey. I have a problem with a guy who wants to only half-heartedly work with Journey, who also objects to bringing in a beloved former member of the band that plays the same instrument. Cain should be all-in or all-out, or else share duties with Rolie.


George_g888 wrote:I completely agree with and understand Cain being hesitant for recording new Journey material. We have to face reality.... Other than the die hards, there is no market for it, it won't sell well.. At this point it will cost to much money to make an album for it to sell poorly like eclipse did...


I agree with the both of you.

About JC: I think he is on board with recording now that Smitty is back with them for a spell. Neal said they're already speaking with Caveman, so I have to believe he's had a change of heart.

Having said that, I can't blame him for not wanting to spend money recording records for a handful of people. Recording is expensive, especially when you're add a high profile producer in the mix. The band pays his fee regardless of how the album sells. It's one thing if they could count on breaking even, but how do you muster the will and excitement for inspiration knowing the masses aren't interested and it's almost a guarantee you'll take a loss? Tough thing to do.

I give Neal all the credit in the world. He does it for the love of creating and he's able to tap that love regardless of the outcome for him. That's a special talent in an of itself.
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Re: INTERVIEW: Carlos Santana Wants To Get Steve Perry Back

Postby STORY_TELLER » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:32 am

Journey/Survivor wrote:There seem to be plenty of other bands/solo-artists that continue to release new albums to this very day, despite the fact that they can't sell as many copies of their albums as 2016 Journey would be capable of selling.

As of the moment, Journey are just a touring jukebox.

Money seems to be Cain's only motivation anymore, which is sad. :(


All touring classic acts with a catalog of hits have a tough catch 22 to balance. It's a numbers game.

The masses expect to hear the hits, and aren't interested in the new stuff, especially when it's not the lead singer who originated the tunes they remember. They tune out and go to the bathroom when the new stuff is played.

The band needs them to buy tickets the next time they're in town. That means the masses need to enjoy themselves and walk out with good memories of the concert. So they have to give them what they want.

Guys like you, me and the rest of the handful of people who post here are the exception. I'm sure the band appreciates us, but we can't pay their bills. It's unfortunate for us, but hey, what can we do?
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Re: INTERVIEW: Carlos Santana Wants To Get Steve Perry Back

Postby Abitaman » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:10 pm

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Journey/Survivor wrote:No. I understood that Neal's comment was about touring. My point was that if Cain is not willing to work on releasing new Journey songs, then he needs to step aside for someone who will work on new songs with Journey. I have a problem with a guy who wants to only half-heartedly work with Journey, who also objects to bringing in a beloved former member of the band that plays the same instrument. Cain should be all-in or all-out, or else share duties with Rolie.


George_g888 wrote:I completely agree with and understand Cain being hesitant for recording new Journey material. We have to face reality.... Other than the die hards, there is no market for it, it won't sell well.. At this point it will cost to much money to make an album for it to sell poorly like eclipse did...


I agree with the both of you.

About JC: I think he is on board with recording now that Smitty is back with them for a spell. Neal said they're already speaking with Caveman, so I have to believe he's had a change of heart.

Having said that, I can't blame him for not wanting to spend money recording records for a handful of people. Recording is expensive, especially when you're add a high profile producer in the mix. The band pays his fee regardless of how the album sells. It's one thing if they could count on breaking even, but how do you muster the will and excitement for inspiration knowing the masses aren't interested and it's almost a guarantee you'll take a loss? Tough thing to do.

I give Neal all the credit in the world. He does it for the love of creating and he's able to tap that love regardless of the outcome for him. That's a special talent in an of itself.


Bands like Journey, Styx, and of the classic groups, could do singles for I tunes, etc..Augeri is doing that, and I have bought them, they could also release hits, live, with new songs on them.
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