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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:35 am

jrnyman28 wrote:What we DO know, is that Perry is being compensated for his involvement in Journey. Also, we DO know that Perry let the band continue. And he did so without a lawsuit. We DO know that Journey and Perry came to a legal and binding agreement which allowed Journey to continue. What we can "assume" from that, is that his "Don't break the stone" convictions were not so strong that Perry stopped Journey from continuing.


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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:43 am

"If I had to leave the band, I wouldn't say, 'No, you can't do it without me.' I'd say, 'More power to you.' But I can't see myself leaving; I'm holding up the legacy the fans want to hear."



I don't buy that at all.. NO WAY Neal Schon says go ahead, "more power to you." Absolutely no way.

See, Perryheads, I criticize NS too.. He is full of shit on this one..
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:56 am

OpeningAct wrote: NC likes to throw his big words out there


Why does my inexhaustable lexicon intimidate you so, Reardon?
Is it because it makes you feel pressured to open a dictionary, which could then possibly lead to the unthinkable: u actually reading a book (gasp!!!)?
-Or maybe it's something else. Perhaps you're anger stems from jealousy. As your alter ego likes to say so much on here, "don't be jealous just because I received an East Coast education and earned several degrees".

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Postby OpeningAct » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:09 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
OpeningAct wrote: NC likes to throw his big words out there


Why does my inexhaustable lexicon intimidate you so, Reardon?
Is it because it makes you feel pressured to open a dictionary, which could then possibly lead to the unthinkable: u actually reading a book (gasp!!!)?
-Or maybe it's something else. Perhaps you're anger stems from jealousy. As your alter ego likes to say so much on here, "don't be jealous just because I received an East Coast education and earned several degrees".

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I WOULD read a book but I have a hellacious time attempting to turn the pages while being restrained in my straightjacket NC.... :P
I DID receive an East Coast degree...but just one. You're thinking of JT, he's the smart one with all the good schooling... :wink:
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Postby NealIsGod » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:11 am

OpeningAct wrote:I WOULD read a book but I have a hellacious time attempting to turn the pages while being restrained in my straightjacket NC.... :P



It doesn't seem to hinder your typing. :?
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Postby OpeningAct » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:15 am

NealIsGod wrote:
OpeningAct wrote:I WOULD read a book but I have a hellacious time attempting to turn the pages while being restrained in my straightjacket NC.... :P



It doesn't seem to hinder your typing. :?
:roll: Christ...
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:53 am

Get that close minded, stupid bitch off the site..Christ! is right..How the Hell can you listen to these people brainwash you?

Hell, while you're at it, throw one up of that bitch Ann Coulter...

I personally would LOVE to debate BOTH of them...
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Postby PROPERRY » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:53 am

jrnyman28 wrote:What we DO know, is that Perry is being compensated for his involvement in Journey. Also, we DO know that Perry let the band continue. And he did so without a lawsuit. We DO know that Journey and Perry came to a legal and binding agreement which allowed Journey to continue. What we can "assume" from that, is that his "Don't break the stone" convictions were not so strong that Perry stopped Journey from continuing.



So by EVERYTHING YOU'VE stated above Jrnyman, this WOULD make Perry an incredibly nice guy & shows that Perry's personality is NOT "as difficult", as some would like us to believe :D

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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:58 am

PROPERRY wrote:So by EVERYTHING YOU'VE stated above Jrnyman, this WOULD make Perry an incredibly nice guy & shows that Perry's personality is NOT "as difficult", as some would like us to believe :D

Lori


Possibly, or maybe he was too lazy to fight it...Hell, he won't even answer the phone from Jon and Neal...they have to go through his attorneys. That's laughable. He doesn't have the greatest work ethic in the world you know..
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Postby jrnyman28 » Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:01 am

PROPERRY wrote:So by EVERYTHING YOU'VE stated above Jrnyman, this WOULD make Perry an incredibly nice guy & shows that Perry's personality is NOT "as difficult", as some would like us to believe :D

Lori


Or simply greedy enough to see that he can continue to earn good money without having to do anything.

I do not know.
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Postby NealIsGod » Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:02 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:So by EVERYTHING YOU'VE stated above Jrnyman, this WOULD make Perry an incredibly nice guy & shows that Perry's personality is NOT "as difficult", as some would like us to believe :D

Lori


Or simply greedy enough to see that he can continue to earn good money without having to do anything.

I do not know.


I vote for the latter.
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Postby PROPERRY » Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:41 am

You guys just can't stand it, your egos just can't handle it, when anyone here GIVES Perry praise for anything!

What is the matter, are you afraid if people give praise to Perry here, it will diminish the current Journey in some way???? You guys really show your weaknesses!

I posted a "postive response" WITHOUT any negativity directed at the current Journey members & YOU all still respond with your crap!!!!

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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:45 am

How was MY response negative?

I would love to hear this.
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Postby PROPERRY » Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:49 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:How was MY response negative?

I would love to hear this.



:roll:

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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:51 am

PROPERRY wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:How was MY response negative?

I would love to hear this.



:roll:

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I said :roll: .

That's strange, I don't recall that. Let's try again, smartass..
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Postby PROPERRY » Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:58 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:How was MY response negative?

I would love to hear this.



:roll:

Lori


I said :roll: .

That's strange, I don't recall that. Let's try again, smartass..




You CLAIM to be a smart guy, let's see if you can figure it out for yourself???

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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:07 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:Possibly, or maybe he was too lazy to fight it...Hell, he won't even answer the phone from Jon and Neal...they have to go through his attorneys. That's laughable. He doesn't have the greatest work ethic in the world you know..


Firstly, I NEVER have claimed to be a smart guy..If you can prove that, I will blow my own ass off...now, on to your question. I, unlike you, will in fact answer the question..You STILL haven't..

I said Mr. Perry was too lazy to fight the other members..Is that negative? I think by his own statements that he didn't want to tour Europe, didn't want to go on with ROR, didn't tour for TBF...yeah, I think it's fair to say, "his heart just wasn't in it." Does that sit better with you?

I also said he won't personally answer the phone from Neal and Jon.. That is Fact.

Okay, your turn. :wink:
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Postby mnmsjrny » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:13 am

Monker wrote:People, the ENTIRE PURPOSE of the Star was to honor the ENTIRITY of Journey from 1974-2004. It was NOT given to just the version of Journey that had 'hits'. That is what some of you WANTED to happen but it was NOT the intention of the group that got the entire Star for the band...Maybe Michelle, or somebody else, can verify that but that is how I understand things.

If you want an award presented for a specific timeframe, or version of Journey, then perhaps you can get a group together and attempt to do it - But, that is NOT what happened with the WOF star.


You got it right Monker. This all goes back waaay before Hollywood. If Steve & Deen hadn't joined the band in '98 and Journey had gone the way of the dinosaur the group of us who started this ball rolling in 2001 would never have met, never would have started a small fan gathering around the Arrival tour, never would have dreamed up the Bammies WOF plaque, never would have gotten all the leg work done on the Hollywood WOF application. None of it would have happened because without a band to rekindle the flame in the fans no one would have made the effort.

To add to the argument... Should George Tickner not have been there? He certainly didn't have anything to do with the "hits"? How about Aynsley Dunbar -- he only played on one "hit" album? Hell, Robert Fleischman was there and all he did was co-write a few songs -- of course, one of them IS "Wheel in the Sky".

Steve's wording in the interview wasn't the best, but having spoken directly with him myself about it he knows his role isn't in creating the legacy, but keeping it alive and he's quite humbled by that responsibility. He and Deen are also aware that it is because of them the band is getting these honors because with out them, we wouldn't have had the last 7+ years of Journey.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:14 am

PROPERRY wrote:You guys just can't stand it, your egos just can't handle it, when anyone here GIVES Perry praise for anything!

What is the matter, are you afraid if people give praise to Perry here, it will diminish the current Journey in some way???? You guys really show your weaknesses!

I posted a "postive response" WITHOUT any negativity directed at the current Journey members & YOU all still respond with your crap!!!!

Lori


First, if you feel like praising Perry, please do so. Post all the Praise Perry threads you want. Why don't you guys ever do THAT?

Second, My response was that we do know what Perry did but I do not know why. YOU, however, tried to take my words to prove YOUR point. I don't appreciate that. So I offered another possibility that MY words would ALSO corroborate.

Third, Yee-Haw, so you made one post that was not negative toward Journey! Do you want a cookie? I did not say anything negative about Perry. I offered a possible situation that was completely speculative but did offer a negative possibility. It was not fact, it was not even my opinion, it was merely a possibility. I suggest you quit using others peoples' words in a sad attempt to prove your point. Come up with your own! On occasion you have done this, and it was respectable.

Furthermore, while you did not specifically say anything negative about Journey, there was an implication of Journey's negative behaviour in your post. There was an unwritten, but natural comparison made in your post.

Finally, What about all the times I (we) HAVE praised Perry for his once-great vocal talents? You make it sound like only "you" are allowed to praise Perry. You give no weight to our objective views...
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Postby NoMoreTails » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:15 am

NealIsGod wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:So by EVERYTHING YOU'VE stated above Jrnyman, this WOULD make Perry an incredibly nice guy & shows that Perry's personality is NOT "as difficult", as some would like us to believe :D

Lori


Or simply greedy enough to see that he can continue to earn good money without having to do anything.

I do not know.


I vote for the latter.


Mostly likely his lawyers said take the offer, its the best you can hope for, otherwise fight it in court and you won't get shit (or at least no more than he ended up getting).
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Postby mnmsjrny » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:15 am

NealIsGod wrote:Actually, Lori, it doesn't work that way. All you need is $10,000 to get a star on the WOF. Augeri has helped bring in a hell of a lot more moolah than that.


Actually, it's $15,000, but who's counting?? ;)
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Postby jrnyman28 » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:17 am

mnmsjrny wrote:he (Steve) knows his role isn't in creating the legacy, but keeping it alive and he's quite humbled by that responsibility. He and Deen are also aware that it is because of them the band is getting these honors because with out them, we wouldn't have had the last 7+ years of Journey.


Worth repeating!
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:19 am

I already corrected Nealisgod, but that's ok.

MNM, you were absolutely correct. Nice hard work for those 3-5 years..You ought to be commended for your efforts. Journey was just about dead......that's what pisses these Heads off..They thought the beast was coput without Perry...Ain't so.

And Finally, PROPERRY STILL hasn't responded..You look run over to me PP...Hurry, PM PF and HOTS for ideas.....Hurry!
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:38 am

Still waiting for you, PROPERRY.. I know you are just seathing...steamed beyond belief...
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Postby mnmsjrny » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:40 am

jrnyman28 wrote:By Lori's theory, George Tickner and Robert Fleischman should not have been there either.


I really need to read the whole thread before I reply... LOL!
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Postby OpeningAct » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:47 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:Get that close minded, stupid bitch off the site..Christ! is right..How the Hell can you listen to these people brainwash you?

Hell, while you're at it, throw one up of that bitch Ann Coulter...

I personally would LOVE to debate BOTH of them...
They would eat you alive in a debate Deano....calling them bitches, in and of itself, is not debating... :roll:
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Postby OpeningAct » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:51 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:Still waiting for you, PROPERRY.. I know you are just seathing...steamed beyond belief...
WOW...and you say I'm scary...look at your sig Deano...you're shithead hall of fame includes your mother and sister... :shock:
Someone has some open wounds...yeesh!!!! :shock:
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Postby mnmsjrny » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:52 am

boodles wrote:I think someone had to know Steve was going to be there, even if it was just the mayor.


It was just the mayor and the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce. No one else knew he was coming.
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Postby mnmsjrny » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:57 am

jrnyman28 wrote:I don't think Jon would be pissed at all. He, as all of them are, is a gentleman. Jon understands the impact Perry's appearabce would/did have. I am sure he was genuinely glad Perry was there, amd more than willing to let him take the time. In fact, there might have been a 'contingency plan' for IF Perry arrived. After all, Neal had been trying pretty hard to get Perry to show.


Shocked would be a better word... I really wish I had a camera when I was chatting with Jon later at the JPP luncheon... the look on his face was the same as every single fan in attendance -- surprised and pleased and complete disbelief.
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Postby mnmsjrny » Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:10 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
mnmsjrny wrote:he (Steve) knows his role isn't in creating the legacy, but keeping it alive and he's quite humbled by that responsibility. He and Deen are also aware that it is because of them the band is getting these honors because with out them, we wouldn't have had the last 7+ years of Journey.


Worth repeating!
:oops: Thanks Dave...
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