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Postby Deb » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:39 pm

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It kills me to say it, but Neal really is a fantastic guitarist. And I have a ton of old CDs here that will hold me just fine. He gets no money from my pocket ever again. Not for concerts, not for music, not on iTunes...I can't even bring myself to buy the Soul SirkUS CD (and I am collecting JSS stuff as fast as I can).



Kim, that you MUST get. I love it it's an excellent cd, you won't be sorry! I almost didn't get that cd, because I thought it would have been too hard edge for me, but it's got a great mix of edge, melodic and funk (james brown :)) and a little r&b JSS. I really like that song Coming Home, but get a little pissed when I hear it now. Just reminds of the great melodic sound Journey could have had with JSS. :( Love the sexy edge to numbers like Praise and My Sanctuary.
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Postby Lora » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:41 pm

Jeremey wrote:I respect anyone's right to say what they want about me, but be prepared knowing full well that I frequent this board that I will come on and defend myself if necessary.


No, you don't respect the right of others to voice their opinion as is obvious by your responses in this thread. What you are saying is that this is a pro-Jeremey forum and you and your friends post here. And the mob mentality takes over if someone states a differing opinion. Your language is inappropriate for any forum but if you call it defending yourself and you and your pals enjoy it, then have at it.
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Postby chf34jmac » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:42 pm

Well put Lazz. Don't take it too personal. This is Fyre's M.O. He pops up and stirs people into a maniacal froth with his bipolar fantasies and then he'll disappear again. During his absence, he'll trash everyone here including Andrew on other message boards. When he reappears, he will deny that he trashed anyone even when it's thrown in his face with direct quotes. Andrew tolerates him only so much, I however have been done playing with him for quite some time and would welcome a true to fact debate with him but as evidenced in this very thread, he doesn't see anyone's point but his. As an example, I'll cite the fact that the Frontiers youtube clips have the comments function turned off. He doesn't want to hear that simply because it totally derails his claims about how much better he thinks Arnel is than Jeremey. Only real way to gauge which one would be better fit would be to place them both onstage and judge them doing live performances and let the fans decide which one they prefer. That would make sense and stop Fyre's baiting right in it's tracks so he doesn't want to even address it.

You get used to him and ignore him or like me you lose it and beat the asshole down everytime he shows up. The latter is much more refreshing in my opinion.
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Postby nolippin » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:46 pm

When the hell did this become YOUR own online community?? It is always the same 10-12 people who come into these threads and try to force you down our throats. That is no where close to a majority of the people who are members here. It's always the same two who try to tell anyone who disagrees that you walk on water that the "whole forum" is behind you. It is NOT.

Lora is spot on. You have shown how unprofessional you are. Don't bother with the victim routine. You have come in here and blasted other forum members for their opinions EVERY damn time one of your groupies starts one of these threads. This isn't an isolated case. You did the same thing at BT.

The "Perry Impersonator" title is part of who you are. You and you alone are responsible for dressing up like Steve Perry all the way down to a cheesey wig. You've been on Perry boards asking what they thought of your haircut. It is something that will always haunt you. There are pics of it all over the internet. It isn't going to go away because you now find it embarassing. It was your mistake. Live with it.

If you don't want comments on how inappropriate your "tell all" blog is, don't come here posting the link to it. If you can't take the negative comments along with the positive about your work, stop hawking your wares here. Even better start your own forum.



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Rick wrote: Those two blasts were a long time coming Lora. Jeremey has had to endure Fyre's needling comments for far too long.


I hear ya, Rick but someone who puts themselves in the public arena should be able to deal with needling comments in a more professional manner. I've read some of Frye's comments but I don't recall him/her ever resorting to a diatribe of that nature.


Lora, first of all, how "famous" should I be before I should be above defending myself in my own circle of friends? Kind of famous? Part time famous? How do professionals deal with heckling onstage for example? Like, I don't know...If someone threw a bracelet at me or something? I've had plenty of my share of heckling at shows and I've dealt with it directly and nipped it in the bud. Shouldn't be any different in my own online community. This is a place I've called home for a good while. If I was to barge in on a Perry board that openly ragged on me, which there are plenty of, and start calling people names and defending myself, than yeah, that's ridiculous. But I've been a member of this forum for a lot longer than my current screenname indicates, and anyone who decides to take potshots at me out of the blue should fully expect that as a member of this community, I'm going to defend myself. I was RUN OFF this stupid board when my name leaked as the "new lead singer of Journey" back in June. I have nothing to hide behind at this point, and if a FEW posts out of the years I've been here contain a few four letter words, and that's an issue for some, than I'm sorry. Mine eyes have seen a lot worse on this forum over the years.
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Postby chf34jmac » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:51 pm

In case you selectively read through just to find jeremey quotes to rail about. I suggest you go look further and see that one of the "12 or so" you refer to is the owner of this site. So check yourself asshole before you're looking for a new home.
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Postby Saint John » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:51 pm

I'm on the sidelines for this one. This is getting really good.
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Postby chf34jmac » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:53 pm

what a pussy! :lol:
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Postby Playitloudforme » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:53 pm

Odds on this thread closing within the hour .... 2 to 1.
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Postby chf34jmac » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:55 pm

I'll take those odds. Andrew is leaving out just enough rope for Fyre to hang himself so why stop until the idiot shoots himself right out of here.
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Postby Playitloudforme » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:55 pm

chf34jmac wrote:I'll take those odds. Andrew is leaving out just enough rope for Fyre to hang himself so why stop until the idiot shoots himself right out of here.


Pretty much, yup...
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Re: No Way!!!

Postby LazzMan » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:06 pm

LazzMan wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PGQPjIDEA

Not trying to dig up any bones here but, I watched this again and I just can't see it. Nothing against him personally but, I can't believe that "Team Journey" is comfortable with this guy. Good voice, noticeable accent, and NO stage presence at all. His band doesn't help him much though. Man, they fucking suck.


If anyone wants to get back on topic... :)
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Re: No Way!!!

Postby Panther » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:49 pm

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Curious.... tube hits and comments make that much of a difference?


In the cold harsh light of day (and reality)...no. Not at all.


Yeah, well, I sort of knew that going into the question. :D Thanks for throwing it out there like that. I'm certainly no expert, but this whole YouTube thing sort of reminds me of the old days and everyone finding out exactly HOW popular certain people were by reading the writing on the bathroom stalls. :roll: :roll:

I read here much more than I post (obviously), but I seem to recall most of the posters actually stating that AP has a fine voice and really should spark up his own interest on the world stage instead of joining a sinking ship. Yeah, there were those who were trying to make a specific set of points regarding the band as a whole but I guess some couldn't see the forrest for the trees.

Andrew, me thinks you might consider some tree felling so those who can't discern the forrest might have a better line of sight.
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Re: No Way!!!

Postby pedro » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:06 pm

LazzMan wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PGQPjIDEA

Not trying to dig up any bones here but, I watched this again and I just can't see it. Nothing against him personally but, I can't believe that "Team Journey" is comfortable with this guy. Good voice, noticeable accent, and NO stage presence at all. His band doesn't help him much though. Man, they fucking suck.


What if the guy really is the choice of Journey? Would you kill yourself?
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Postby Granny » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:15 pm

chf34jmac wrote:In case you selectively read through just to find jeremey quotes to rail about. I suggest you go look further and see that one of the "12 or so" you refer to is the owner of this site. So check yourself asshole before you're looking for a new home.


Now that I'm feeling better and out of sick bay, can I be #13? Jeremey has an excellent voice, not so crazy about the back-up band tho"..but he has really been harrassed for many things other than his talent, and at this point in time, I think he finally has had enough of it and slipped on the language thing. I know Jeremey personally and he does not speak like that. At least he's nice to his fans even tho" there are only 12 or 13 of us. :wink: :wink: :roll:

Besides I'm really tired of the personal bashing.
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Re: No Way!!!

Postby Granny » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:20 pm

pedro wrote:
LazzMan wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PGQPjIDEA

Not trying to dig up any bones here but, I watched this again and I just can't see it. Nothing against him personally but, I can't believe that "Team Journey" is comfortable with this guy. Good voice, noticeable accent, and NO stage presence at all. His band doesn't help him much though. Man, they fucking suck.


What if the guy really is the choice of Journey? Would you kill yourself?


should we say welcome Pedro, or have you been here before?
I wouldn't kill myself nor would anyone else! Tho' AP has a good voice, he has absolutely no stage presence...just watch the one and the only Steve Perry and the very talented Jeff Scott Soto and then tell me you think that AP is right for Journey. They could fix the accent, the hair the clothes but they can't give him SOUL!
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Kill ourselves?

Postby journeywoman » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:29 pm

Boy Pedro, who do you think you are talking to anyway?Not all of us are that stupid,maybe where you come from they are.And Granny hit it right on with Arnel.Mr. Perry is the voice of Journey,Jeff Scott Soto gave us hope ,now that is gone and I do not think either that no matter what they do with AP he will not have the stage presence or the soul to sing these classic songs.So go find another thread to bash these people on .You think these people are tired on the constant bashing?????????How about Andrew???Day in and day out.These people that come on here and do nothing but bash are ruining Andrew's forums.
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Re: No Way!!!

Postby pedro » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:29 pm

Granny wrote:
pedro wrote:
LazzMan wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PGQPjIDEA

Not trying to dig up any bones here but, I watched this again and I just can't see it. Nothing against him personally but, I can't believe that "Team Journey" is comfortable with this guy. Good voice, noticeable accent, and NO stage presence at all. His band doesn't help him much though. Man, they fucking suck.


What if the guy really is the choice of Journey? Would you kill yourself?


should we say welcome Pedro, or have you been here before?
I wouldn't kill myself nor would anyone else! Tho' AP has a good voice, he has absolutely no stage presence...just watch the one and the only Steve Perry and the very talented Jeff Scott Soto and then tell me you think that AP is right for Journey. They could fix the accent, the hair the clothes but they can't give him SOUL!


Then, I will direct the question to you. What will you do if Journey picks Arnel?
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If they pick AP

Postby journeywoman » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:36 pm

Hey,Pedro direct that question to me.If they pick Arnel? So what, it's Neal's baby,and he is the "founder" of Journey.As for me I will continue to listen to my journey cd's with Steve Perry, oh and arrival with Steve Augeri, boots with Jeff Scott Soto, dam the list is getting long isn't it with frontmen.That's where I will cut it off.Sorry if you were looking for a rancid response.
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Re: No Way!!!

Postby Granny » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:38 pm

pedro wrote:
Granny wrote:
pedro wrote:
LazzMan wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PGQPjIDEA

Not trying to dig up any bones here but, I watched this again and I just can't see it. Nothing against him personally but, I can't believe that "Team Journey" is comfortable with this guy. Good voice, noticeable accent, and NO stage presence at all. His band doesn't help him much though. Man, they fucking suck.


What if the guy really is the choice of Journey? Would you kill yourself?


should we say welcome Pedro, or have you been here before?
I wouldn't kill myself nor would anyone else! Tho' AP has a good voice, he has absolutely no stage presence...just watch the one and the only Steve Perry and the very talented Jeff Scott Soto and then tell me you think that AP is right for Journey. They could fix the accent, the hair the clothes but they can't give him SOUL!


Then, I will direct the question to you. What will you do if Journey picks Arnel?


Well, good question..I'm not sure..I do like his voice...I wouldn't fly all over the country like I did to see Journey with Jeff, or travel many many miles to see Journey with SA, but if they were close enough in terms of driving lets say 2 hrs. I would be curious and check the band out. I have to admit, sitting 4th row right in front of Neal was a lifetime experience..
a very enjoyable one.. and would want to do it again. I have loved Journey music for 28 years and will continue to play my CDs...Today it was Captured in the car on the way to the doctors office and back...It will always be the Steve Perry era for me. But am willing to try again, would have preferred it was Jeremey tho. Hope they treat the next guy better and at least have the courtesy to call the singer up and say "its Over"!
Still think letting JSS go was a big mistake, and one they may live to regret.Sorry if I got off on a tangent there.
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Re: No Way!!!

Postby pedro » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:46 pm

Granny wrote:
pedro wrote:
Granny wrote:
pedro wrote:
LazzMan wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PGQPjIDEA

Not trying to dig up any bones here but, I watched this again and I just can't see it. Nothing against him personally but, I can't believe that "Team Journey" is comfortable with this guy. Good voice, noticeable accent, and NO stage presence at all. His band doesn't help him much though. Man, they fucking suck.


What if the guy really is the choice of Journey? Would you kill yourself?


should we say welcome Pedro, or have you been here before?
I wouldn't kill myself nor would anyone else! Tho' AP has a good voice, he has absolutely no stage presence...just watch the one and the only Steve Perry and the very talented Jeff Scott Soto and then tell me you think that AP is right for Journey. They could fix the accent, the hair the clothes but they can't give him SOUL!


Then, I will direct the question to you. What will you do if Journey picks Arnel?


Well, good question..I'm not sure..I do like his voice...I wouldn't fly all over the country like I did to see Journey with Jeff, or travel many many miles to see Journey with SA, but if they were close enough in terms of driving lets say 2 hrs. I would be curious and check the band out. I have to admit, sitting 4th row right in front of Neal was a lifetime experience..
a very enjoyable one.. and would want to do it again. I have loved Journey music for 28 years and will continue to play my CDs...Today it was Captured in the car on the way to the doctors office and back...It will always be the Steve Perry era for me. But am willing to try again, would have preferred it was Jeremey tho. Hope they treat the next guy better and at least have the courtesy to call the singer up and say "its Over"!
Still think letting JSS go was a big mistake, and one they may live to regret.Sorry if I got off on a tangent there.


Well that is a very good answer, one that would earn someones respect. Unlike most anti-Arnel here that curses, throws racial slurs, post pictures deameaning to someones race etc..
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Postby Playitloudforme » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:47 pm

Oh for goodness sake...let's not go down this route again. Enough please.
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Postby mistiejourney » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:41 pm

Granny wrote:
chf34jmac wrote:In case you selectively read through just to find jeremey quotes to rail about. I suggest you go look further and see that one of the "12 or so" you refer to is the owner of this site. So check yourself asshole before you're looking for a new home.


Now that I'm feeling better and out of sick bay, can I be #13? Jeremey has an excellent voice, not so crazy about the back-up band tho"..but he has really been harrassed for many things other than his talent, and at this point in time, I think he finally has had enough of it and slipped on the language thing. I know Jeremey personally and he does not speak like that. At least he's nice to his fans even tho" there are only 12 or 13 of us. :wink: :wink: :roll:

Besides I'm really tired of the personal bashing.


I'm a new #14! :wink:
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Postby StoneCold » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:59 pm

Jeremey, I enjoy reading your blog. I don't think its sour grapes so much as a chance to share what few people can.

As to your posts here, there are enough supporters to defend so IMO, it was a misstep for you to come down to this level but hey, you're human. JSS has popped in once in a while and done the same (he just didn't get into the back and forth insults).

I know you take pride in your skills and accomplishments but realize that these posts don't really amount to much. As tough as it may be, it benefits you more to take the high road and ignore any negativity directed at you.

Who knows what the future holds? You may yet get another chance at a major band. Same goes for JSS.
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Re: No Way!!!

Postby Andrew » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:42 pm

pedro wrote:
Well that is a very good answer, one that would earn someones respect. Unlike most anti-Arnel here that curses, throws racial slurs, post pictures deameaning to someones race etc..


As someone with only 3 posts to their name - I would caution you against throwing out accusations at forum users in general.

This thread is doing no-one any service, closing now.
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