Arnel on youtube- this time acapella

[texafana]

The fact of the matter is that Journey is broken. It's a broken machine. It chews up singers and spits them out to satisfy the huge fucking uncontrollable ego of Schlong and his yeast infected yes man finger-banging the whale.

WTF are you talking about? Steve A had to be let go due to vocal concerns. By all matters it looks like he needed at least a 1 year break or longer to get back up to speed. That's too long for a band that's "in the moment" like Journey with all the DSB hype flowing around, to wait for. JSS (who rocks and kicks ass) was a great fill in and ultimately was decided he didn't mesh for the immediate future of the band. Hardly the "leader singer chewing machine" you describe.

Notice how the recording equipment can't handle the volume of his voice in that interview. Because it's loud man! It was like a yelling contest at one time, to get the vocals ready for a show.

I saw that too and it concerns me. If Arnel contiunes to sing some of these high notes in "chest voice" he will ultimately hurt his voice. He needs to learn how to sing those high notes a little softer in his head voice especially on songs line Open Arms, etc.

And unfortunately yes there's some diction problems "Dont Stop..Believennnnah" I didn't care for that. BUT.....

The man's natural voice is incredible. Mark my words on this, we will see an entirely different Arnel 3-4 months after he starts the touring process. And when that happens, look out Journey bashers, things could get interesting again.

[strangegrey]

WTF are you talking about? Steve A had to be let go due to vocal concerns. By all matters it looks like he needed at least a 1 year break or longer to get back up to speed. That's too long for a band that's "in the moment" like Journey with all the DSB hype flowing around, to wait for. JSS (who rocks and kicks ass) was a great fill in and ultimately was decided he didn't mesh for the immediate future of the band. Hardly the "leader singer chewing machine" you describe.

You need to get your timeframes in order before you can make that flawed argument.

Steve A was no longer singing with Journey a FULL YEAR before the last Sopranos episode was ever aired. In fact, it's plausable, given how tight-lidded David Chase was with respect to the final episodes...that Chase didn't inform Cain and Perry until about a month prior to the episode's airing. At the time when Cain and Perry were notified of DSB's use in the last episode, one could make a halfway decent argument that the gears to orchestrate Soto's departure from Journey were already in motion!!!

Clearly you didn't think this one out....


The fact of the matter is that Journey toured Augeri's voice into the dumpster. This isn't a desputed matter. They changed the game plan (one that was presumably laid out for Augeri when he was first hired) following arrival...and following arrival, their tour schedule between 01-06 was rigorous enough to break the back of any singer. Had soto remained in this band for 5-6 years, the SAME thing would have happened to his voice. The band would have toured his voice into oblivion. I suspect one of the reasons why Soto didn't last in the band is that Schonbag and Friga sensed that Soto wasn't going to let himself get shoved around like Augeri....and if you've adequately informed yourself, you'll know that this band has a serious problem with singers they can't control.

Hell, take the singer strain out of this for a second...we're still talking about a band that cant keep singers. 3 singers in the past year....keep asking yourself, why!...somethings *not* working in this band. If you want to bury your head in the sand and imagine this band catapaulting itself to the top of the rock charts...hell, ignorance is bliss. Enjoy it.

I'm a realist. When my grass keeps dying...after a while, I start coming to the conclusion that the grass seed I keep pouring on the front lawn isn't bad. Eventually, you have to recognize that something else is causing the grass to die.

If you don't want to believe it, thats fine. Just don't change your username here when this thing goes belly up and you're too embarassed to post here, knowing your opinions on this are now well documented here.

[Rockindeano]

I suspect one of the reasons why Soto didn't last in the band is that Schonbag and Friga sensed that Soto wasn't going to let himself get shoved around like Augeri....and if you've adequately informed yourself, you'll know that this band has a serious problem with singers they can't control.

Frank, you are a sharp guy and almost always hit the nail on the head.

However, Jeff was willing to sell his soul to the band he loved, admired, and even though he wanted to write new stuff, always continue to evolve, he would have stayed on board, and respected the Journey legacy, even if that meant playing 90% of the show singing the classics. I won't give too much away here, but, Jeff is a team player, and you're right Frank, he wouldn't let them push him around too much, but like Perry back when Escape was full throttle, gave in to a kneeling Bill Graham and "gave him his stadium dates." So you're point on, with a small variation I think, regarding Jeff.

[Rockindeano]

The man's natural voice is incredible. Mark my words on this, we will see an entirely different Arnel 3-4 months after he starts the touring process. And when that happens, look out Journey bashers, things could get interesting again.

Not taking sides here, but this is an outstanding point.

Everyone remember the WOF ceremony, where Ross talked and then Neal, and finally Perry. I can remember the difference You could just tell, he was a when Perry got up to speak, his voice was so powerful. He just montered over the other two. I DO see that in Pineda. It's obvious he has a powerful "from within voice." Augeri was so damned soft, and even Soto, talked liked a regular Joe but man does he have strong pipes.

Good observation..

[Deb]

I suspect one of the reasons why Soto didn't last in the band is that Schonbag and Friga sensed that Soto wasn't going to let himself get shoved around like Augeri....and if you've adequately informed yourself, you'll know that this band has a serious problem with singers they can't control.

Frank, you are a sharp guy and almost always hit the nail on the head.

However, Jeff was willing to sell his soul to the band he loved, admired, and even though he wanted to write new stuff, always continue to evolve, he would have stayed on board, and respected the Journey legacy, even if that meant playing 90% of the show singing the classics. I won't give too much away here, but, Jeff is a team player, and you're right Frank, he wouldn't let them push him around too much, but like Perry back when Escape was full throttle, gave in to a kneeling Bill Graham and "gave him his stadium dates." So you're point on, with a small variation I think, regarding Jeff.

It's still so sad. What could have been............. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G8aKZos ... re=related .......now thats delivering a song! (without sounding exactly like Perry)

[treetopovskaya]

dean it's a good thing jss didn't sell his soul... especially to the devil. still sad tho... it would have been a hell of a ride! what were neal & co thinking??? i LOVE arnel... love him to pieces... but... DAMN... it should be jeff scott soto!! }:C)

I suspect one of the reasons why Soto didn't last in the band is that Schonbag and Friga sensed that Soto wasn't going to let himself get shoved around like Augeri....and if you've adequately informed yourself, you'll know that this band has a serious problem with singers they can't control.

Frank, you are a sharp guy and almost always hit the nail on the head.

However, Jeff was willing to sell his soul to the band he loved, admired, and even though he wanted to write new stuff, always continue to evolve, he would have stayed on board, and respected the Journey legacy, even if that meant playing 90% of the show singing the classics. I won't give too much away here, but, Jeff is a team player, and you're right Frank, he wouldn't let them push him around too much, but like Perry back when Escape was full throttle, gave in to a kneeling Bill Graham and "gave him his stadium dates." So you're point on, with a small variation I think, regarding Jeff.

[treetopovskaya]

*cries*

}:~C((

feeling very melancholy today.

I suspect one of the reasons why Soto didn't last in the band is that Schonbag and Friga sensed that Soto wasn't going to let himself get shoved around like Augeri....and if you've adequately informed yourself, you'll know that this band has a serious problem with singers they can't control.

Frank, you are a sharp guy and almost always hit the nail on the head.

However, Jeff was willing to sell his soul to the band he loved, admired, and even though he wanted to write new stuff, always continue to evolve, he would have stayed on board, and respected the Journey legacy, even if that meant playing 90% of the show singing the classics. I won't give too much away here, but, Jeff is a team player, and you're right Frank, he wouldn't let them push him around too much, but like Perry back when Escape was full throttle, gave in to a kneeling Bill Graham and "gave him his stadium dates." So you're point on, with a small variation I think, regarding Jeff.

It's still so sad. What could have been............. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G8aKZos ... re=related .......now thats delivering a song! (without sounding exactly like Perry)