How damaged is Perry's voice really?

[Pelata]

I agree....if Perry tours at all, it'll be solo...

I doubt Perry will rediscover a love for touring at 60. Maybe a dozen well spaced shows, max.

Yeah, probably...

[bluejeangirl76]

I agree....if Perry tours at all, it'll be solo...

Maybe a dozen well spaced shows, max.

If it ever happened at all, that would be my bet also, NIG.
If I had to guess, I'd bet on the major cities, at most. LA, SF, NY, Chicago, Vegas, etc.

[Saint John]

I suppose it comes down to the question of "If you were paid well enough, would you ever again work with someone you absolutely fucking can't stand?"

I think the more important, and much more pertinent, question is, "Would you be willing to set aside petty differences and do this for the fans?" Gene Simmons said that there were almost nightly fist fights with the KISS reunion tour, but they all realized how much the fans wanted it and no matter what they were gonna make it happen.

[bluejeangirl76]

I suppose it comes down to the question of "If you were paid well enough, would you ever again work with someone you absolutely fucking can't stand?"

I think the more important, and much more pertinent, question is, "Would you be willing to set aside petty differences and do this for the fans?" Gene Simmons said that there were almost nightly fist fights with the KISS reunion tour, but they all realized how much the fans wanted it and no matter what they were gonna make it happen.

Good point. Though I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to paying to see nightly Journey fistfights either. That might be kind of fun. Celebrity Deathmatch, Journey Style. As long as they throw in a couple deep cuts between bashing each other with amps, I'd be game.

I could almost see it happening, though. They've all said (in one form or another) no, it's over, we had our time, we moved on, etc., but it wouldn't be the first time any of them has said one thing and done the opposite.

[Pelata]

I suppose it comes down to the question of "If you were paid well enough, would you ever again work with someone you absolutely fucking can't stand?"

I think the more important, and much more pertinent, question is, "Would you be willing to set aside petty differences and do this for the fans?" Gene Simmons said that there were almost nightly fist fights with the KISS reunion tour, but they all realized how much the fans wanted it and no matter what they were gonna make it happen.

Good point. Though I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to paying to see nightly Journey fistfights either. That might be kind of fun. Celebrity Deathmatch, Journey Style. As long as they throw in a couple deep cuts between bashing each other with amps, I'd be game.

Perry could use his bionic hip to super-kick Neal into the next county!

[kgdjpubs]

I want to hear this Pittsburg, Pa boot. I want to hear. How bad was it ?

I think the Pitts PA show was right around the time that tour got shitcanned... so if it was a bad show, it might have been the health thing. I don't remember 'bad' one (to be fair, I haven't listened all the way throug to most of them...LOL), so I'd have to pull it up and listen. But I know a friend real close to there had tickets to one of the first cancelled shows, so the timing might indicate maybe he was already ill for that one. I don't actually know the date of that one so I could be totally wrong. ??

I'm not sure. If the dates are right, it was right after the NYC Beacon show (which sounds great), and the Toronto show (which I have been told is good). It makes sense if the cancellations started soon after this.

To be fair, apart from Only the Young (which I don't think I have heard a good recording on that tour as his voice needed about one song to warm up), the issues didn't really become apparent until he went into the Journey stuff--starting around Dixie Highway. Basically, he could sing fine, but the high range just wasn't there that night, and he was really stretching to pull it off the higher-pitched Journey songs. Who knows what the issue was. Sick? Dry air? Bad breakast? Worried to death wondering how Chalfant would do as the lead singer of Journey? The list is endless...

I think I have a clip of it around here. Let me see if I can find it.

Pittsburgh 1994...Separate Ways clip. Not very representative of the tour compared to the rest I have heard. Still, for those in need of a new set of eardrums...

http://download.yousendit.com/475E477A3461CADD

[Saint John]

I want to hear this Pittsburg, Pa boot. I want to hear. How bad was it ?

I think the Pitts PA show was right around the time that tour got shitcanned... so if it was a bad show, it might have been the health thing. I don't remember 'bad' one (to be fair, I haven't listened all the way throug to most of them...LOL), so I'd have to pull it up and listen. But I know a friend real close to there had tickets to one of the first cancelled shows, so the timing might indicate maybe he was already ill for that one. I don't actually know the date of that one so I could be totally wrong. ??

I'm not sure. If the dates are right, it was right after the NYC Beacon show (which sounds great), and the Toronto show (which I have been told is good). It makes sense if the cancellations started soon after this.

To be fair, apart from Only the Young (which I don't think I have heard a good recording on that tour as his voice needed about one song to warm up), the issues didn't really become apparent until he went into the Journey stuff--starting around Dixie Highway. Basically, he could sing fine, but the high range just wasn't there that night, and he was really stretching to pull it off the higher-pitched Journey songs. Who knows what the issue was. Sick? Dry air? Bad breakast? Worried to death wondering how Chalfant would do as the lead singer of Journey? The list is endless...

I think I have a clip of it around here. Let me see if I can find it.

Pittsburgh 1994...Separate Ways clip. Not very representative of the tour compared to the rest I have heard. Still, for those in need of a new set of eardrums...

http://download.yousendit.com/475E477A3461CADD

He was waffling through the song just like Augeri did when he could no longer sing. That was painful to listen to. I'm guessing that was late in the tour. He had that ROR "toast" sound to his voice.

[stevew2]

I want to hear this Pittsburg, Pa boot. I want to hear. How bad was it ?

I think the Pitts PA show was right around the time that tour got shitcanned... so if it was a bad show, it might have been the health thing. I don't remember 'bad' one (to be fair, I haven't listened all the way throug to most of them...LOL), so I'd have to pull it up and listen. But I know a friend real close to there had tickets to one of the first cancelled shows, so the timing might indicate maybe he was already ill for that one. I don't actually know the date of that one so I could be totally wrong. ??

I'm not sure. If the dates are right, it was right after the NYC Beacon show (which sounds great), and the Toronto show (which I have been told is good). It makes sense if the cancellations started soon after this.

To be fair, apart from Only the Young (which I don't think I have heard a good recording on that tour as his voice needed about one song to warm up), the issues didn't really become apparent until he went into the Journey stuff--starting around Dixie Highway. Basically, he could sing fine, but the high range just wasn't there that night, and he was really stretching to pull it off the higher-pitched Journey songs. Who knows what the issue was. Sick? Dry air? Bad breakast? Worried to death wondering how Chalfant would do as the lead singer of Journey? The list is endless...

I think I have a clip of it around here. Let me see if I can find it.

Pittsburgh 1994...Separate Ways clip. Not very representative of the tour compared to the rest I have heard. Still, for those in need of a new set of eardrums...

http://download.yousendit.com/475E477A3461CADD

He was waffling through the song just like Augeri did when he could no longer sing. That was painful to listen to. I'm guessing that was late in the tour. He had that ROR "toast" sound to his voice.

Thats was dreadful

[RedWingFan]

he's notorious for being a perfectionist.

Bullshit. Then why where the songs on the ROR tour sung as if you were listening a to an old cassette that someone hit "fast forward" on?

As opposed to recent "Journey" shows when you were actually listening to an old cassette Dan? Please excuse Perry if he refuses to lip and defraud his fans like "Journey" does. But at least they were out on the road for you huh?

[squirt1]

SJ- Earwax a problem or an attitude or altitude for that matter? I saw the FTLOSM tour and he did hit the notes on some songs by backing up the scales. The rest was good. I took 50 people and many became new fans. It would have been TBF if Journey played.

[ProgRocker53]

I love Steve Perry.

[stevew2]

I love Steve Perry.

Are you touching yourself right now?

[walkslikealady]

Maybe SP is going to do a Las Vegas show. That way he doesn't have to tour...the people come to him.

[DracIsBack]

He was waffling through the song just like Augeri did when he could no longer sing. That was painful to listen to. I'm guessing that was late in the tour. He had that ROR "toast" sound to his voice.

Yikes. Could be Arnel if they aren't careful with the touring. Those songs are punishing to sing night after night.

[Saint John]

Maybe SP is going to do a Las Vegas show. That way he doesn't have to tour...the people come to him.

There have been rumors about this very scenario.

[Saint John]

he's notorious for being a perfectionist.

Bullshit. Then why where the songs on the ROR tour sung as if you were listening a to an old cassette that someone hit "fast forward" on?

As opposed to recent "Journey" shows when you were actually listening to an old cassette Dan? Please excuse Perry if he refuses to lip and defraud his fans like "Journey" does. But at least they were out on the road for you huh?

Try and stay on topic please. I don't see the correlation between an ex-member that lipped and Perry flying through the songs on the ROR tour.

[Liquid_Drummer]

Could you post the whole song. I have to say one thing. Even when he dodges the high notes he does a good job at singing it in a way that is still very melodic. He is very good at covering his "vocal arse" when it was not working as well as he needed it to be..

[bluejeangirl76]

He is very good at covering his "vocal arse" when it was not working as well as he needed it to be..

Gives "talking out of your ass" a new and interesting meaning.

[DracIsBack]

youch - sounded pretty rough to my ears too. Almost like he had laryngitis or something.

[swataz]

I want to hear this Pittsburg, Pa boot. I want to hear. How bad was it ?

I think the Pitts PA show was right around the time that tour got shitcanned... so if it was a bad show, it might have been the health thing. I don't remember 'bad' one (to be fair, I haven't listened all the way throug to most of them...LOL), so I'd have to pull it up and listen. But I know a friend real close to there had tickets to one of the first cancelled shows, so the timing might indicate maybe he was already ill for that one. I don't actually know the date of that one so I could be totally wrong. ??

I'm not sure. If the dates are right, it was right after the NYC Beacon show (which sounds great), and the Toronto show (which I have been told is good). It makes sense if the cancellations started soon after this.

To be fair, apart from Only the Young (which I don't think I have heard a good recording on that tour as his voice needed about one song to warm up), the issues didn't really become apparent until he went into the Journey stuff--starting around Dixie Highway. Basically, he could sing fine, but the high range just wasn't there that night, and he was really stretching to pull it off the higher-pitched Journey songs. Who knows what the issue was. Sick? Dry air? Bad breakast? Worried to death wondering how Chalfant would do as the lead singer of Journey? The list is endless...

I think I have a clip of it around here. Let me see if I can find it.

Pittsburgh 1994...Separate Ways clip. Not very representative of the tour compared to the rest I have heard. Still, for those in need of a new set of eardrums...

http://download.yousendit.com/475E477A3461CADD

Yeah that was pretty brutal, but as a vocalist myself, I can say that you have to roll with it when you either 'don't have it' or have to sing out of your comfortable range. This can mean doing what Steve did there or even singing the song in different pitch altogether.

Give the guy a break.

[kgdjpubs]

Could you post the whole song. I have to say one thing. Even when he dodges the high notes he does a good job at singing it in a way that is still very melodic. He is very good at covering his "vocal arse" when it was not working as well as he needed it to be..

yea, but give me a little while. That was off a clip I made sometime back. Hopefully I'll have it done by later tonight for those in need of more torture.

[Liquid_Drummer]

I want to hear faithfully from this show. How the hell would he do the ending high vocals of the song if Separate Ways had him ducking. Time is a motherfucker isnt it.

[kgdjpubs]

Yeah that was pretty brutal, but as a vocalist myself, I can say that you have to roll with it when you either 'don't have it' or have to sing out of your comfortable range. This can mean doing what Steve did there or even singing the song in different pitch altogether.

Give the guy a break.

Oh, I agree. I don't think this was very representative of the tour, and there were plenty of shows that he sounded just fine. The only thing I can't figure out is why he went through the "coat routine" before LTS on that show where he did the "I heard you can't sing anymore and lost your voice". On a night like that, no need to beat the audience over the head like that. Some of them might believe it was true.

As I said though, I'm still surprised that he put THAT many Journey songs on the setlist for that tour. Putting a few more Street Talk songs, or some lower Journey material (like Stay Awhile--which made an appearance later) on the setlist would have given the vocal cords a bit of a rest on the more difficult nights.

Sure, it's harder in rehearsal as you have to learn more songs, but one would think the benefit on those nights when the voice just isn't working for whatever reason would be worth it--not to mention the opportunity to mix the set up a bit from night to night.

[bluejeangirl76]

As I said though, I'm still surprised that he put THAT many Journey songs on the setlist for that tour.

Because he is just as much saddled with the audience's expectation of hearing those songs as Journey still is. If he got up on that stage and didn't do DSB, Separate Ways, Faithfully, Lights and LTS, people would go mental on him. Don't ask me what GCHI or IBAWY were doing in there. That tour/promotion didn't last long enough for people to remember those the same way as DSB, et all.

[bionic]

Some time back a source mentioned to me that Perry had taken steps to repair his voice,this was only needed if he intended to sing,judging by the GQ article it would seem he may be in a position to offer something vocally in a new release.If this includes touring is another matter as he will be expected to perform some Journey songs and this may be a problem,no one knows what condition his voice is in lets hope something comes of this

[WIX]

eVER SINCE EATING THE BEER BATTERED CRUST PIZZA HE HAS MADE FAMOUS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, HE HAS got back most of his vocal ability.
word!

[amaron]

Don't ask me what GCHI or IBAWY were doing in there. That tour/promotion didn't last long enough for people to remember those the same way as DSB, et all.

They were both on the Greatest Hits CD, which is probably why they were played.

[kgdjpubs]

As I said though, I'm still surprised that he put THAT many Journey songs on the setlist for that tour.

Because he is just as much saddled with the audience's expectation of hearing those songs as Journey still is. If he got up on that stage and didn't do DSB, Separate Ways, Faithfully, Lights and LTS, people would go mental on him. Don't ask me what GCHI or IBAWY were doing in there. That tour/promotion didn't last long enough for people to remember those the same way as DSB, et all.

Exactly...just play the 5 you listed above, which keeps the loons at bay. He could have survived without playing Only the Young, Any Way You Want It, Girl Can't Help It, Dixie Highway, I'll Be Allright..--and that's after he dropped Open Arms and Stone in Love from the first night. My only comment was that you could put other songs in there from Street Talk (80% was never played live), or a few others from FTLOSM (Stand Up sounded great the one or two times it was played)--which most are in a lower range.

I was simply surprised that for a solo tour that 70% of the songs were Journey hits, when he could have played 30% Journey and kept the audience happy while preserving his voice on lower-pitched songs. If you are on a solo tour, you do have some latitude to mix things up without creating a mutiny.

[Deb]

As I said though, I'm still surprised that he put THAT many Journey songs on the setlist for that tour.

Because he is just as much saddled with the audience's expectation of hearing those songs as Journey still is. If he got up on that stage and didn't do DSB, Separate Ways, Faithfully, Lights and LTS, people would go mental on him. Don't ask me what GCHI or IBAWY were doing in there. That tour/promotion didn't last long enough for people to remember those the same way as DSB, et all.

Exactly...just play the 5 you listed above, which keeps the loons at bay. He could have survived without playing Only the Young, Any Way You Want It, Girl Can't Help It, Dixie Highway, I'll Be Allright..--and that's after he dropped Open Arms and Stone in Love from the first night. My only comment was that you could put other songs in there from Street Talk (80% was never played live), or a few others from FTLOSM (Stand Up sounded great the one or two times it was played)--which most are in a lower range.

Personally, I prefer the ones you mentioned above way more than the dirty dozen.

[EightyRock]

Hey, Dixie Highway was a highlight of the FTLOSM tour. His solo stuff, peppered with 3 or 4 Journey tunes of his choice would be plenty. I basically want to hear his new stuff, plus I'd like to see what kind of band he'd put together for a live show now. Anybody got ideas of who would be a good fit for bandmembers?