Favorite Song on Manila DVD?

[steveo777]

BTW, I haven't seen the Manila DVD, so there's some good stuff on it??!?!?

Tons!

Two of the biggest surprises for me were Still They Ride and Open Arms.

Surprised because they were really good or because they are on the DVD?!?!?

Both.

I actually prefer both takes to the original versions. Neal's solo on Open Arms is perhaps the highlight... but Arnel's version is more masculine and adds some grit to the tenor. Same for Deen. His impromptu "through the night!" during the beginning of Neal's solo is excellent.

Did you introduce yourself and I missed it? I'm a nosy bastard, who are you?

Yeah, WWYBYWB?

[Michigan Girl]

BTW, I haven't seen the Manila DVD, so there's some good stuff on it??!?!?

Tons!

Two of the biggest surprises for me were Still They Ride and Open Arms.

Surprised because they were really good or because they are on the DVD?!?!?

Both.

I actually prefer both takes to the original versions. Neal's solo on Open Arms is perhaps the highlight... but Arnel's version is more masculine and adds some grit to the tenor. Same for Deen. His impromptu "through the night!" during the beginning of Neal's solo is excellent.

REALLY!!! Well I must check it out!!!

I didn't notice until Rick pointed it out...but you're new....WELCOME!!!
I like the name!!!

[JH'sTXfan]

BTW, I haven't seen the Manila DVD, so there's some good stuff on it??!?!?

Tons!

Two of the biggest surprises for me were Still They Ride and Open Arms.

Surprised because they were really good or because they are on the DVD?!?!?

Both.

I actually prefer both takes to the original versions. Neal's solo on Open Arms is perhaps the highlight... but Arnel's version is more masculine and adds some grit to the tenor. Same for Deen. His impromptu "through the night!" during the beginning of Neal's solo is excellent.

Did you introduce yourself and I missed it? I'm a nosy bastard, who are you?

IOW, which repeat persona are you? Welcome!

[Chubby321]

I am a newbie here. .........in this thread.

What I Needed is the best song for me.

Also love, TDTWT, Change For The Better and Edge of the Blade.

[JH'sTXfan]

I am a newbie here. .........in this thread.

What I Needed is the best song for me.

Also, TDTWT, Change For The Better and Edge of the Blade.

What I Needed is the best song from Revelation. Should I go buy this DVD Chubby?

[Escape81]

What I Needed is great... Not to repeat this ad nauseum, but Neal really shines on that one... and superb vocals from Arnel, though it's very obvious that the "J-Boyz" use prerecorded backing vocals.

Change For the Better is a fantastic release (much like Escape! ) but with so much keyboards on the song, why is Jonathan on guitar???

[Jana]

BTW, I haven't seen the Manila DVD, so there's some good stuff on it??!?!?

Tons!

Two of the biggest surprises for me were Still They Ride and Open Arms.

Surprised because they were really good or because they are on the DVD?!?!?

Both.

I actually prefer both takes to the original versions. Neal's solo on Open Arms is perhaps the highlight... but Arnel's version is more masculine and adds some grit to the tenor. Same for Deen. His impromptu "through the night!" during the beginning of Neal's solo is excellent.

Did you introduce yourself and I missed it? I'm a nosy bastard, who are you?

IOW, which repeat persona are you? Welcome!

[Chubby321]

I am a newbie here. .........in this thread.

What I Needed is the best song for me.

Also, TDTWT, Change For The Better and Edge of the Blade.

What I Needed is the best song from Revelation. Should I go buy this DVD Chubby?

I tried to research on this DVD/CD/Mp3 player for the car. Car CD player that is also a DVD player can read your DVD-Mp3, but only if your CD/DVD player (as it is called) accepts Mp3-DVD's. Apparently, even if you do get a DVD/CD/Mp3 player, you must get an external LCD monitor for it, unless you purchase a unit with an integrated monitor (these are really nice, but can cost up to $2,000).

If you buy a relatively inexpensive DVD/CD/Mp3 unit without an LCD monitor and try to play your DVD-Mp3, you will probably find that you cannot play the DVD-Mp3 without the monitor.

If you want to buy this, you need to install it yourself, or you will pay an arm and a leg for the guys at the shop to do it.

If your CD player plays DVD's, it will likely say it on the front. If it does not, and you really think it might, then take the CD player out of your car (or get a professional to do so), and look on the back to see if it has a video input or output (yellow RCA plug). If it only has a Red and White input and/or output RCA plug, then your CD player can not play DVD's.

[Author2]

Yeah, [b]WWYBYWB?[/b]

What is that and where might I find that magazine? That's nice.

[jrny84]

I really enjoyed listening to "When you love a woman" and Arnel did a good job singing it. Its nice to see that in the setlist...in my opinion that should be in the setlist all the time. Also really liked "What I needed", which was probably the best performance by arnel on the dvd. Definetly was awesome! Some of the others I enjoyed were "Still they ride", "Turn down the world tonight" "Change for the better", and "Escape".

Songs that I would have liked to have been included: "Send her my love", "Whos crying now", "Ill be alright without you".

[steveo777]

Yeah, [b]WWYBYWB?[/b]

What is that and where might I find that magazine? That's nice.

November 2008 Guitar Player magazine. I actually have the magazine, but clipped the pic of the cover online. I don't know if you can order backissues thru Guitar Player mag or not.

[Onestepper]

Take any of those 13 years, subtract every song that Steve MF'n Perry was the original singer on.

Sorry, but that's just not fair or valid. The band in no way has to completely pack away songs they helped co-create because their recluse singer has decided to call it a career. I don't recall the Journey fans not really interested in seeing Steve Perry on the FTLOSM tour (and there were many that didn't go, hence the non sellouts at 2,500 seat venues)screaming that Perry was a tribute act or that his band shouldn't be playing the music of Neal, Jon, Ross and Smitty. Asking Steve to sing "a capella" is just as ridiculous as asking Journey not to sing songs that Perry originally sang. Both arguments are dumb, but Journey has tried over and over to convince Steve to rejoin and has never once tried touring without him while he was in the band...something he did to them. And then he came back to thwart their new lineup...and fucked them again. Classy guy.

Well good for you for twisting a statement to turn it into an opportunity to post your agenda. The point was made in my original post. And it has nothing to do with what you posted. Sorry you can't focus enough to figure out what that would be. But it hasn't changed.

Bullshit, asshole. This is what you said: "Take any of those 13 years, subtract every song that Steve MF'n Perry was the original singer on."

So fucking what??? The same could be said when Perry was touring playing Journey songs. Someone could have opened their blow hole like you did and spouted the equally stupid "Take Perry's setlist from this tour and subtract every song that Neal motherfucking Schon, Ross motherfucking Valory, Steve motherfucking Smith and Jonathan motherfucking Cain played on..." Seems to me that Perry had to replicate more "intruments" than Journey is now. And the fans seem to be flocking to see Journey much more so than they did Perry. Advantage, Journey.

You know SJ..I used to really like to come on this board over the last few years for your input. But you are also one of the reasons I have slowed to a crawl, or all together just stopped. You can call me every name in the book, that is fine. The ironic thing is that I actually AGREE with what you are trying to say. But once again, you missed my point. The conversation was about why people might think there is a tribute band element to what Journey is doing right now. If Perry were out touring with different musicians playing Journey music, I would have the same opinion as what I stated above. See how that works? I don't need to have it all one way. There is no right or wrong when it comes to that issue. It's just fact.

You seem to be singularly focused on arguing against SP. And like I said, I agree with much of what you state. But also like I said, it has NOTHING to do with the point of what we were discussing. If you need to call me an asshole or some other derogatory name to refute that, cool. It must make you feel tough and cool, which I understand that is what a lot of boards are about these days.

Have a nice day.

[brywool]

I really enjoyed listening to "When you love a woman" and Arnel did a good job singing it.

Agreed. I thought that was definitely one of the highlights of the dvd for sure!

[xflajrnylvr]

MF by Deen

[steveo777]

MF by Deen

Personally, I like Deen better on STR.

[Escape81]

Some of the others I enjoyed were "Still they ride", "Turn down the world tonight" "Change for the better", and "Escape". Songs that I would have liked to have been included: "Send her my love", "Whos crying now", "Ill be alright without you".

Agreed!

[brywool]

"What I Needed" was also amazingly good.

[Saint John]

You know SJ..I used to really like to come on this board over the last few years for your input. But you are also one of the reasons I have slowed to a crawl, or all together just stopped. You can call me every name in the book, that is fine. The ironic thing is that I actually AGREE with what you are trying to say. But once again, you missed my point. The conversation was about why people might think there is a tribute band element to what Journey is doing right now. If Perry were out touring with different musicians playing Journey music, I would have the same opinion as what I stated above. See how that works? I don't need to have it all one way. There is no right or wrong when it comes to that issue. It's just fact.

You seem to be singularly focused on arguing against SP. And like I said, I agree with much of what you state. But also like I said, it has NOTHING to do with the point of what we were discussing. If you need to call me an asshole or some other derogatory name to refute that, cool. It must make you feel tough and cool, which I understand that is what a lot of boards are about these days.

Have a nice day.

lol...I don't try to make anyone feel bad...except Blueskies. Apologies.

[Michigan Girl]

You know SJ..I used to really like to come on this board over the last few years for your input. But you are also one of the reasons I have slowed to a crawl, or all together just stopped. You can call me every name in the book, that is fine. The ironic thing is that I actually AGREE with what you are trying to say. But once again, you missed my point. The conversation was about why people might think there is a tribute band element to what Journey is doing right now. If Perry were out touring with different musicians playing Journey music, I would have the same opinion as what I stated above. See how that works? I don't need to have it all one way. There is no right or wrong when it comes to that issue. It's just fact.

You seem to be singularly focused on arguing against SP. And like I said, I agree with much of what you state. But also like I said, it has NOTHING to do with the point of what we were discussing. If you need to call me an asshole or some other derogatory name to refute that, cool. It must make you feel tough and cool, which I understand that is what a lot of boards are about these days.

Have a nice day.

lol...I don't try to make anyone feel bad...except Blueskies. Apologies.

You do ROCK!!!
and no comment on the part of which I know nothing!!

[journeyinto2001]

The credits

I have to agree with you on this one. The entire show seems like a tribute band trying to celeberate what once was Journey.

fk that.. the band hasn't sounded this good in years and I'm sold on Arnel being the official best singer for Journey since Steve Perry. "What I Needed", by itself should solidify that. Time to embrace what Arnel has brought to the band. With Augeri and Soto, I was still looking more at the band playing, with Arnel I'm finally back at watching...er...listening to the lead vocal alot more.

I saw Arnel last year and he sounded great. Maybe the fact that I was drunk helped too. But he sounds terrible on this show. the rest of the band just seems too bored to be there , except for Neal smiling ear to ear , thinking $$$,,,

Of course if you wanna stick your fucking head in the sand and pretend that this is a good show , I am not gonna argue with you.

Behshad is still butt-hurt that "the monkey" didn't make the cut, plain and simple. Finally the band has a singer that does Perry's legacy proud. Sorry, Soto was FAR from it. His lack of success pre and post Journey is pure proof!

[Lula]

Behshad is still butt-hurt that "the monkey" didn't make the cut, plain and simple. Finally the band has a singer that does Perry's legacy proud. Sorry, Soto was FAR from it. His lack of success pre and post Journey is pure proof!

why the derogatory insult? couldn't you have just said you like the current line up and left the belittling comment out?

[Jana]

Behshad is still butt-hurt that "the monkey" didn't make the cut, plain and simple. Finally the band has a singer that does Perry's legacy proud. Sorry, Soto was FAR from it. His lack of success pre and post Journey is pure proof!

why the derogatory insult? couldn't you have just said you like the current line up and left the belittling comment out?

+1 Totally uncalled for.

[portland]

Behshad is still butt-hurt that "the monkey" didn't make the cut, plain and simple. Finally the band has a singer that does Perry's legacy proud. Sorry, Soto was FAR from it. His lack of success pre and post Journey is pure proof!

why the derogatory insult? couldn't you have just said you like the current line up and left the belittling comment out?

+1 Totally uncalled for.

Yes not cool at all

[steveo777]

The credits

I have to agree with you on this one. The entire show seems like a tribute band trying to celeberate what once was Journey.

fk that.. the band hasn't sounded this good in years and I'm sold on Arnel being the official best singer for Journey since Steve Perry. "What I Needed", by itself should solidify that. Time to embrace what Arnel has brought to the band. With Augeri and Soto, I was still looking more at the band playing, with Arnel I'm finally back at watching...er...listening to the lead vocal alot more.

I saw Arnel last year and he sounded great. Maybe the fact that I was drunk helped too. But he sounds terrible on this show. the rest of the band just seems too bored to be there , except for Neal smiling ear to ear , thinking $$$,,,

Of course if you wanna stick your fucking head in the sand and pretend that this is a good show , I am not gonna argue with you.

Behshad is still butt-hurt that "the monkey" didn't make the cut, plain and simple. Finally the band has a singer that does Perry's legacy proud. Sorry, Soto was FAR from it. His lack of success pre and post Journey is pure proof!

That is really a dickish thing to say. While I don't prefer JSS in Journey I am far from dissing him as a singer or a human!

[Behshad]

The credits

I have to agree with you on this one. The entire show seems like a tribute band trying to celeberate what once was Journey.

fk that.. the band hasn't sounded this good in years and I'm sold on Arnel being the official best singer for Journey since Steve Perry. "What I Needed", by itself should solidify that. Time to embrace what Arnel has brought to the band. With Augeri and Soto, I was still looking more at the band playing, with Arnel I'm finally back at watching...er...listening to the lead vocal alot more.

I saw Arnel last year and he sounded great. Maybe the fact that I was drunk helped too. But he sounds terrible on this show. the rest of the band just seems too bored to be there , except for Neal smiling ear to ear , thinking $$$,,,

Of course if you wanna stick your fucking head in the sand and pretend that this is a good show , I am not gonna argue with you.

Behshad is still butt-hurt that "the monkey" didn't make the cut, plain and simple. Finally the band has a singer that does Perry's legacy proud. Sorry, Soto was FAR from it. His lack of success pre and post Journey is pure proof!

Your post totally reflects your level of intelligence.

you wanna win a debate by insulting Soto , won't get you anywhere pal. You'll see


Also , lack of success Pre & Post Journey could be said for any of Journey singers , you know

[Abitaman]

Behshad is still butt-hurt that "the monkey" didn't make the cut, plain and simple. Finally the band has a singer that does Perry's legacy proud. Sorry, Soto was FAR from it. His lack of success pre and post Journey is pure proof!

That was wrong in so many ways!
Since hearing JSS in Journey i have become a fan and bought many of his cds.
He may not have been a perfect for the band for the classic sound. But Journey would have rocked with JSS

[jrny84]

JSS is a great performer and singer, but I have to agree with others that he didnt fit the sound of Journey at all.

[Andrew]

JSS is a great performer and singer, but I have to agree with others that he didnt fit the sound of Journey at all.

And Sammy Hagar wasn't a DLR clone either...but he still sang some Dave tunes alongside those tunes from the band's first ever #1 album - an album they recorded without Dave or their legacy sound. Case closed.

[StevePerryHair]

The credits

I have to agree with you on this one. The entire show seems like a tribute band trying to celeberate what once was Journey.

fk that.. the band hasn't sounded this good in years and I'm sold on Arnel being the official best singer for Journey since Steve Perry. "What I Needed", by itself should solidify that. Time to embrace what Arnel has brought to the band. With Augeri and Soto, I was still looking more at the band playing, with Arnel I'm finally back at watching...er...listening to the lead vocal alot more.

I saw Arnel last year and he sounded great. Maybe the fact that I was drunk helped too. But he sounds terrible on this show. the rest of the band just seems too bored to be there , except for Neal smiling ear to ear , thinking $$$,,,

Of course if you wanna stick your fucking head in the sand and pretend that this is a good show , I am not gonna argue with you.

Behshad is still butt-hurt that "the monkey" didn't make the cut, plain and simple. Finally the band has a singer that does Perry's legacy proud. Sorry, Soto was FAR from it. His lack of success pre and post Journey is pure proof!

I suppose that would depend on how one measures success

[Ehwmatt]

JSS is a great performer and singer, but I have to agree with others that he didnt fit the sound of Journey at all.

And Sammy Hagar wasn't a DLR clone either...but he still sang some Dave tunes alongside those tunes from the band's first ever #1 album - an album they recorded without Dave or their legacy sound. Case closed.

Yeah and I LOVE Sammy but he should leave the Dave stuff alone. Sammy was successful because VH was able to change their sound with him and become a whole new band. Like or dislike JSS with Journey, it's not a fair comparison imo. Journey, on account of having a much longer established legacy and an untouchable voice in terms of range and technique, did not have that luxury with JSS. I mean, people had been sitting there for 25 years listening to Perry sing ALL the classic Journey songs. DLR was making hits with VH for a handful of years. Just a very different situation.