NEW Perry/Journey rumor?

[fightingilliniJRNY]

I initially really liked Revelation, but I have found that I'm hardly ever listening to it anymore. The word I would use to describe it, after the initial few listens, is "forgettable." That probably ties in to what everyone has observed about the re-hashing of chords, themes, etc.

Compare that to Arrival, which I still play as frequently as any other album by any other artist in my collection, and it still sounds fresh to me (nearly 10 years after its release). I don't know if I can put my finger on the exact reason, but Arrival is just much, much stronger than Revelation in my opinion.

[Don]

I initially really liked Revelation, but I have found that I'm hardly ever listening to it anymore. The word I would use to describe it, after the initial few listens, is "forgettable." That probably ties in to what everyone has observed about the re-hashing of chords, themes, etc.

Compare that to Arrival, which I still play as frequently as any other album by any other artist in my collection, and it still sounds fresh to me (nearly 10 years after its release). I don't know if I can put my finger on the exact reason, but Arrival is just much, much stronger than Revelation in my opinion.

I think because Arrival not only used outside writers but writers that were also musicians and I think some of that presents itself with the lyrics forcing the stylization of the music on some of the tracks

[Michigan Girl]

REVELATION actually was well received by the critics. Go figure, hah?

Since when do critics matter? Revelation was forgettable 80's throwback music...that's all.

I happen to agree w/this ...Revelation, blah ...I can't even hum a melody from it!!

Well, you might have to listen to more than once.

I saw them live more than that, post~Revelation!!
Sadly, noone around me knew this music, yet it went
platinum?!?! I guess the same people who buy and listen
to Revelation don't attend the shows!!

I listened a few times and there were a couple of ok melodies,
the point is ...if I don't hear them, ever again, I don't feel
like I'd be missing anything ...
Now, take away ...Baby I'm Leaving You and BAM ...I'm lost!!

I still listen to Revelation at least once a week, is it Infinity or Escape? No, But I enjoy it. Don't really care if it sounds like the 80s and Neal lights it up.

And please quit bringing up THAT song. Now I can't get it out of my head!

And I'm glad, '78 ...it makes me happy when you're happy!! I would never
want to deflate anyone because of my feelings ...
~we prefer different things
~we have different tastes
~I have extremely great taste and some people just have extremely average taste
I don't think they can help it!!

RNR, I am LMAO!! I know you think I'm kidding about BILY, but I'm so serious ...love it!!

[Voyager]

Rumor has it that Perry was in town to record two tracks on the new Journey CD, and he will be touring with Journey in 2011. Arnel and Steve will be trading off lead and backup vocals.


















































JK - but it sounded cool.

[Since 78]

REVELATION actually was well received by the critics. Go figure, hah?

Since when do critics matter? Revelation was forgettable 80's throwback music...that's all.

I happen to agree w/this ...Revelation, blah ...I can't even hum a melody from it!!

Well, you might have to listen to more than once.

I saw them live more than that, post~Revelation!!
Sadly, noone around me knew this music, yet it went
platinum?!?! I guess the same people who buy and listen
to Revelation don't attend the shows!!

I listened a few times and there were a couple of ok melodies,
the point is ...if I don't hear them, ever again, I don't feel
like I'd be missing anything ...
Now, take away ...Baby I'm Leaving You and BAM ...I'm lost!!

I still listen to Revelation at least once a week, is it Infinity or Escape? No, But I enjoy it. Don't really care if it sounds like the 80s and Neal lights it up.

And please quit bringing up THAT song. Now I can't get it out of my head!

And I'm glad, '78 ...it makes me happy when you're happy!! I would never
want to deflate anyone because of my feelings ...
~we prefer different things
~we have different tastes
~I have extremely Strange taste and some people just have extremely Good taste
I don't think they can help it!!

RNR, I am LMAO!! I know you think I'm kidding about BILY, but I'm so serious ...love it!!

There!

[Eric]

I'd like to point out that the mere fact we're comparing multiple post-Perry Journey albums is a sign that they aren't JUST living off their past.

[Rip Rokken]

I'd like to point out that the mere fact we're comparing multiple post-Perry Journey albums is a sign that they aren't JUST living off their past.

I agree!

[Voyager]

I'd like to point out that the mere fact we're comparing multiple post-Perry Journey albums is a sign that they aren't JUST living off their past.

I agree!

I disagree. They are living off the past just as much as a successful Elvis impersonator is. If you took Journey's past with Steve Perry out of the equation, they would have no hits - and no hits means no tour.

[steveo777]

I'd like to point out that the mere fact we're comparing multiple post-Perry Journey albums is a sign that they aren't JUST living off their past.

I agree!

I disagree. They are living off the past just as much as a successful Elvis impersonator is. If you took Journey's past with Steve Perry out of the equation, they would have no hits - and no hits means no tour.

Oh, shut up....you old poop!

[Voyager]

I'd like to point out that the mere fact we're comparing multiple post-Perry Journey albums is a sign that they aren't JUST living off their past.

I agree!

I disagree. They are living off the past just as much as a successful Elvis impersonator is. If you took Journey's past with Steve Perry out of the equation, they would have no hits - and no hits means no tour.

Oh, shut up....you old poop!

I know, logic is overrated.

[Ligzig]

I'd like to point out that the mere fact we're comparing multiple post-Perry Journey albums is a sign that they aren't JUST living off their past.

I agree!

I disagree. They are living off the past just as much as a successful Elvis impersonator is. If you took Journey's past with Steve Perry out of the equation, they would have no hits - and no hits means no tour.

If you took Journey out of the equation, Perry would still be on a turkey ranch. Make believe scenarios are stupid.

You should blame the fans more than anything, as they are the ones that are living in the past and want to hear the Dirty dozen at every show. Can't blame Journey for trying to please the fans. There has been 4 new CD's since perry, and if any new material is played on Tour, most people don't give a shit. Also, in todays music environment, it's not exactly easy for a band like Journey to start topping the charts with their new "hits"

[Voyager]

I'd like to point out that the mere fact we're comparing multiple post-Perry Journey albums is a sign that they aren't JUST living off their past.

I agree!

I disagree. They are living off the past just as much as a successful Elvis impersonator is. If you took Journey's past with Steve Perry out of the equation, they would have no hits - and no hits means no tour.

If you took Journey out of the equation, Perry would still be on a turkey ranch. Make believe scenarios are stupid.

You should blame the fans more than anything, as they are the ones that are living in the past and want to hear the Dirty dozen at every show. Can't blame Journey for trying to please the fans. There has been 4 new CD's since perry, and if any new material is played on Tour, most people don't give a shit. Also, in todays music environment, it's not exactly easy for a band like Journey to start topping the charts with their new "hits"

They can change the lineup with whatever frontman they want to, and it will still always be a Perry/Journey tribute band. As long as people will still buy tickets to see them pay tribute to Steve Perry, they will keep milking the dirty dozen like a cash cow all the way to the bank.

[Saint John]

Dan I know the Mandate...they could have said NO!

But why would they? A band has every right to re-record its own songs and, considering they weren't going to be re-released and no one was buying the album for the re-records, I see no reason why they wouldn't.

Neal was the one who started the NOMTA???? right??...um YES

then they rerecord all the tails songs?? NO??

I know it's 6 letters and that's probably a bit tough for you, but it's "NOMOTA." Anyway, 100% incorrect, but I wouldn't expect someone with an atom-sized brain to be able to figure out that they re-recorded Journey songs, and that's something they have every right to do ... especially considering they weren't going to be re-released. Additionally, all of you jacktrackers argue that the Pinoys are the only ones that bought Revelation so, according to you, no "hardcore" fans even heard the re-records. So, why the hissy fit?

Now the songs made famous with the Tails are the ones that people want to hear on the
radio and in concert??? No????

For the most part, yes. The 80's era Journey had everything going for it. The greatest lineup and the greatest time to play that sort of music. Which is why you never hear anything from FTLOSM, TBF or any other Journey related music on the air (and, to a degree, even ROR). This very same thing can be said for countless other bands. Just more vaginal clapping trying to insinuate that the Perry-less Journey is the only band from that era that's not on the radio anymore.

and who is called for the interviews about said songs?? Tails again??

Are you intentionally flaunting your stupidity or are you just fucking with me??? Of course the guy that actually sang the songs is going to be the one called. Who the fuck did you think they were gonna call ... Larry Londin?

Sooooo shut your blower.....

Go suck Gary Coleman's dick.

for them now it's about the money...not the music.

Considering they continue to put out albums when they could tour endlessly, release nothing and still pack sheds, I'd have to say you're wrong. But that's something you should be used to.

[portland]

Dan I know the Mandate...they could have said NO!

But why would they? A band has every right to re-record its own songs and, considering they weren't going to be re-released and no one was buying the album for the re-records, I see no reason why they wouldn't.

Neal was the one who started the NOMTA???? right??...um YES

then they rerecord all the tails songs?? NO??

I know it's 6 letters and that's probably a bit tough for you, but it's "NOMOTA." Anyway, 100% incorrect, but I wouldn't expect someone with an atom-sized brain to be able to figure out that they re-recorded Journey songs, and that's something they have every right to do ... especially considering they weren't going to be re-released. Additionally, all of you jacktrackers argue that the Pinoys are the only ones that bought Revelation so, according to you, no "hardcore" fans even heard the re-records. So, why the hissy fit?

Now the songs made famous with the Tails are the ones that people want to hear on the
radio and in concert??? No????

For the most part, yes. The 80's era Journey had everything going for it. The greatest lineup and the greatest time to play that sort of music. Which is why you never hear anything from FTLOSM, TBF or any other Journey related music on the air (and, to a degree, even ROR). This very same thing can be said for countless other bands. Just more vaginal clapping trying to insinuate that the Perry-less Journey is the only band from that era that's not on the radio anymore.

and who is called for the interviews about said songs?? Tails again??

Are you intentionally flaunting your stupidity or are you just fucking with me??? Of course the guy that actually sang the songs is going to be the one called. Who the fuck did you think they were gonna call ... Larry Londin?

Sooooo shut your blower.....

Go suck Gary Coleman's dick.

for them now it's about the money...not the music.

Considering they continue to put out albums when they could tour endlessly, release nothing and still pack sheds, I'd have to say you're wrong. But that's something you should be used to.

Dan two words for you....Fuck and You!

[jrnyjetster]

...they will keep milking the dirty dozen like a cash cow all the way to the bank.

YUP, and even more so Steve Perry! When's the last time we heard any new material from him?

[Michigan Girl]

...they will keep milking the dirty dozen like a cash cow all the way to the bank.

YUP, and even more so Steve Perry! When's the last time we heard any new material from him?

Isn't it cool that we don't even have to, although it would be heaven if we did!! What more could a #1 vocalist/songwriter
ask for ...the songs have stood the test of time, just as he had hoped ... The Soprano's, Glee,
Rock of Ages (includes Perry's solo work as well), Monster ...the classics are what they want ...notta nothin' new?!?!
'sup w/that?!?!

[Saint John]

the classics are what they want ...notta nothin' new?!?!
'sup w/that?!?!

And it would still be that way if Perry were fronting the band. Just ask U2 and Bon Jovi. The renaissance is in pretty much all 80's music.

[Deb]

the classics are what they want ...notta nothin' new?!?!
'sup w/that?!?!

And it would still be that way if Perry were fronting the band. Just ask U2 and Bon Jovi. The renaissance is in pretty much all 80's music.

Let's also ask Bon Jovi where they would be today, if they hadn't waited for their frontman to get his shit together when he "had to jump off the merry-go-round" for awhile too, back between the New Jersey and Keep The Faith eras.........shall we?

[Eric]

the classics are what they want ...notta nothin' new?!?!
'sup w/that?!?!

And it would still be that way if Perry were fronting the band. Just ask U2 and Bon Jovi. The renaissance is in pretty much all 80's music.

Let's also ask Bon Jovi where they would be today, if they hadn't waited for their frontman to get his shit together when he "had to jump off the merry-go-round" for awhile too, back between the New Jersey and Keep The Faith eras.........shall we?

He didn't "jump off the merry-go-round" for 8 years, do a solo tour, do an album and jump back off again for 2 years with no word either.

Just to be fair.

[Michigan Girl]

the classics are what they want ...notta nothin' new?!?!
'sup w/that?!?!

And it would still be that way if Perry were fronting the band. Just ask U2 and Bon Jovi. The renaissance is in pretty much all 80's music.

Let's also ask Bon Jovi where they would be today, if they hadn't waited for their frontman to get his shit together when he "had to jump off the merry-go-round" for awhile too, back between the New Jersey and Keep The Faith eras.........shall we?

He didn't "jump off the merry-go-round" for 8 years, do a solo tour, do an album and jump back off again for 2 years with no word either.

Just to be fair.

He also has a much more faithful group ...Ritchie could go it alone!!

[Deb]

the classics are what they want ...notta nothin' new?!?!
'sup w/that?!?!

And it would still be that way if Perry were fronting the band. Just ask U2 and Bon Jovi. The renaissance is in pretty much all 80's music.

Let's also ask Bon Jovi where they would be today, if they hadn't waited for their frontman to get his shit together when he "had to jump off the merry-go-round" for awhile too, back between the New Jersey and Keep The Faith eras.........shall we?

He didn't "jump off the merry-go-round" for 8 years, do a solo tour, do an album and jump back off again for 2 years with no word either.

Just to be fair.

True, more like 5 years or so, and JBJ did do an album in that time too..............the full Young Guns soundtrack.

They all went off and did solo projects and got back together when Jon was ready. But to be fair, I don't think Richie has quite the ego Neal does, so probably quite a different dynamic there.

[Michigan Girl]

the classics are what they want ...notta nothin' new?!?!
'sup w/that?!?!

And it would still be that way if Perry were fronting the band. Just ask U2 and Bon Jovi. The renaissance is in pretty much all 80's music.

Let's also ask Bon Jovi where they would be today, if they hadn't waited for their frontman to get his shit together when he "had to jump off the merry-go-round" for awhile too, back between the New Jersey and Keep The Faith eras.........shall we?

He didn't "jump off the merry-go-round" for 8 years, do a solo tour, do an album and jump back off again for 2 years with no word either.

Just to be fair.

True, more like 5 years or so, and JBJ did do an album in that time too..............the full Young Guns soundtrack.

There, now that we have JBJ settled, you gonna call Bono or shall I?!?

[Saint John]

There is no doubt that this asshole and Nostrildamus are friends. Coming off the heels of Slippery When Wet and New Jersey (their 2 biggest albums), Bon Jovi did this:

Disillusioned with the music business, despite all his success, and unhappy with the status quo, in 1991 Jon Bon Jovi fired his management, business advisers, and agents, including his long time manager, Doc McGhee. Jon took on the quarterbacking responsibilities himself by closing ranks and creating Bon Jovi Management.


Nostrildamus made a very similar decision after Escape and Frontiers (Journey's 2 biggest albums), and both BJ and Nostrildamus Vitamin B saw their band's album sales absolutely plummet after they got their monstrous egos into their respective bands.

[Michigan Girl]

[Saint John]

:lol:

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[steveo777]

This thread is great.....keep it up!

[SF-Dano]

I'd like to point out that the mere fact we're comparing multiple post-Perry Journey albums is a sign that they aren't JUST living off their past.

I agree!

I disagree. They are living off the past just as much as a successful Elvis impersonator is. If you took Journey's past with Steve Perry out of the equation, they would have no hits - and no hits means no tour.

If you took Journey out of the equation, Perry would still be on a turkey ranch. Make believe scenarios are stupid.

You should blame the fans more than anything, as they are the ones that are living in the past and want to hear the Dirty dozen at every show. Can't blame Journey for trying to please the fans. There has been 4 new CD's since perry, and if any new material is played on Tour, most people don't give a shit. Also, in todays music environment, it's not exactly easy for a band like Journey to start topping the charts with their new "hits"

Agreed.

And as far as Bon Jovi is concerned, it would be kind of hard to move on with a band without the person the band is named after. I know many of you wanted Journey to be called The Steve Perry band (some dream that it was), but it in the real world it wasn't.

[Since 78]

I'd like to point out that the mere fact we're comparing multiple post-Perry Journey albums is a sign that they aren't JUST living off their past.

I agree!

I disagree. They are living off the past just as much as a successful Elvis impersonator is. If you took Journey's past with Steve Perry out of the equation, they would have no hits - and no hits means no tour.

If you took Journey out of the equation, Perry would still be on a turkey ranch. Make believe scenarios are stupid.

You should blame the fans more than anything, as they are the ones that are living in the past and want to hear the Dirty dozen at every show. Can't blame Journey for trying to please the fans. There has been 4 new CD's since perry, and if any new material is played on Tour, most people don't give a shit. Also, in todays music environment, it's not exactly easy for a band like Journey to start topping the charts with their new "hits"

Agreed.

And as far as Bon Jovi is concerned, it would be kind of hard to move on with a band without the person the band is named after. I know many of you wanted Journey to be called The Steve Perry band (some dream that it was), but it in the real world it wasn't.

If he were still in the Band it probably would be by now. Can you imagine the music? TBF meets FTLOSM..... That's seriously why it doesn't bother me that he's not with the Band anymore. Solo, which won't happen, Id listen to, but he would have killed them with the musical direction and they would be less relevant now.

[Michigan Girl]

And as far as Bon Jovi is concerned, it would be kind of hard to move on with a band without the person the band is named after. I know many of you wanted Journey to be called The Steve Perry band (some dream that it was), but it in the real world it wasn't.

If he were still in the Band it probably would be by now. Can you imagine the music? TBF meets FTLOSM..... That's seriously why it doesn't bother me that he's not with the Band anymore. Solo, which won't happen, Id listen to, but he would have killed them with the musical direction and
they would be less relevant now.

Less than ?!?! ...I disagree, they would not be less relevant. What is this la la land?!?!
SPB?!? ...right!!

[Since 78]

I'd like to point out that the mere fact we're comparing multiple post-Perry Journey albums is a sign that they aren't JUST living off their past.

I agree!

I disagree. They are living off the past just as much as a successful Elvis impersonator is. If you took Journey's past with Steve Perry out of the equation, they would have no hits - and no hits means no tour.

If you took Journey out of the equation, Perry would still be on a turkey ranch. Make believe scenarios are stupid.

You should blame the fans more than anything, as they are the ones that are living in the past and want to hear the Dirty dozen at every show. Can't blame Journey for trying to please the fans. There has been 4 new CD's since perry, and if any new material is played on Tour, most people don't give a shit. Also, in todays music environment, it's not exactly easy for a band like Journey to start topping the charts with their new "hits"

Agreed.

And as far as Bon Jovi is concerned, it would be kind of hard to move on with a band without the person the band is named after. I know many of you wanted Journey to be called The Steve Perry band (some dream that it was), but it in the real world it wasn't.

If he were still in the Band it probably would be by now. Can you imagine the music? TBF meets FTLOSM..... That's seriously why it doesn't bother me that he's not with the Band anymore. Solo, which won't happen, Id listen to, but he would have killed them with the musical direction and
they would be less relevant now.

Less than ?!?! ...I disagree, they would not be less relevant. What is this la la land?!?!

Are you making fun of where I live! Actually I'm serious, look at Perry's last three efforts, they would be playing elevator music by now.