Why Journey needs Perry

[Majestic]

The current Journey lineup is like:

Aerosmith without Steven Tyler

The Rolling Stones without Mick Jagger

The Elvis Band without Elvis

Stones and Elvis are/were largely bit around personas, and Elvis was a solo act, not a band. Also, Stones music is not built around 'the voice' and Jagger is not irreplaceable in that band because of his great singing.

I could imagine Aerosmith doing aw well as Journey without Tyler, if they found the right singer.

[Don]

The current Journey lineup is like:

Aerosmith without Steven Tyler

The Rolling Stones without Mick Jagger

The Elvis Band without Elvis

Stones and Elvis are/were largely bit around personas, and Elvis was a solo act, not a band. Also, Stones music is not built around 'the voice' and Jagger is not irreplaceable in that band because of his great singing.

I could imagine Aerosmith doing aw well as Journey without Tyler, if they found the right singer.

Not after last week. Aerosmith is all over the charts again all because of Tylers affiliation with American Idol. No replacement singer can get you that kind of pub.
It's not like the band needs it anyway. Everything on their career list has been checked off.
Grammies, #1 songs , world wide stadium shows, 150 million albums sold. R & R HOF. Anything from here on out is just iceing on the cake.

[Majestic]

The current Journey lineup is like:

Aerosmith without Steven Tyler

The Rolling Stones without Mick Jagger

The Elvis Band without Elvis

Stones and Elvis are/were largely bit around personas, and Elvis was a solo act, not a band. Also, Stones music is not built around 'the voice' and Jagger is not irreplaceable in that band because of his great singing.

I could imagine Aerosmith doing aw well as Journey without Tyler, if they found the right singer.

Not after last week. Aerosmith is all over the charts again all because of Tylers affiliation with American Idol. No replacement singer can get you that kind of pub.
It's not like the band needs it anyway. Everything on their career list has been checked off.
Grammies, #1 songs , world wide stadium shows, 150 million albums sold. R & R HOF. Anything from here on out is just iceing on the cake.

True, they've done it all. However, Tyler being on Idol is selling the catelogue. How would the band touring with a replacement interfere with that? I would think the band would benefit, actually. By the way, I'm not encouraging this. I love Tyler in that band.

[Rick]

The current Journey lineup is like:

Aerosmith without Steven Tyler

The Rolling Stones without Mick Jagger

The Elvis Band without Elvis

Stones and Elvis are/were largely bit around personas, and Elvis was a solo act, not a band. Also, Stones music is not built around 'the voice' and Jagger is not irreplaceable in that band because of his great singing.

I could imagine Aerosmith doing aw well as Journey without Tyler, if they found the right singer.

Not after last week. Aerosmith is all over the charts again all because of Tylers affiliation with American Idol. No replacement singer can get you that kind of pub.
It's not like the band needs it anyway. Everything on their career list has been checked off.
Grammies, #1 songs , world wide stadium shows, 150 million albums sold. R & R HOF. Anything from here on out is just iceing on the cake.

True, they've done it all. However, Tyler being on Idol is selling the catelogue. How would the band touring with a replacement interfere with that? I would think the band would benefit, actually. By the way, I'm not encouraging this. I love Tyler in that band.

Which begs the question. Does Perry not do these things because it will benefit Journey? I know it will benefit him also, but it's not like he needs the money.

[Don]

The current Journey lineup is like:

Aerosmith without Steven Tyler

The Rolling Stones without Mick Jagger

The Elvis Band without Elvis

Stones and Elvis are/were largely bit around personas, and Elvis was a solo act, not a band. Also, Stones music is not built around 'the voice' and Jagger is not irreplaceable in that band because of his great singing.

I could imagine Aerosmith doing aw well as Journey without Tyler, if they found the right singer.

Not after last week. Aerosmith is all over the charts again all because of Tylers affiliation with American Idol. No replacement singer can get you that kind of pub.
It's not like the band needs it anyway. Everything on their career list has been checked off.
Grammies, #1 songs , world wide stadium shows, 150 million albums sold. R & R HOF. Anything from here on out is just iceing on the cake.

True, they've done it all. However, Tyler being on Idol is selling the catelogue. How would the band touring with a replacement interfere with that? I would think the band would benefit, actually. By the way, I'm not encouraging this. I love Tyler in that band.

Right now Steve Tyler IS Aerosmith. If he said Aerosmith touring with a replacement is a fraud, All the Idol maniacs would say he was right. He's got the public on his side at the moment.

[Majestic]

The current Journey lineup is like:

Aerosmith without Steven Tyler

The Rolling Stones without Mick Jagger

The Elvis Band without Elvis

Stones and Elvis are/were largely bit around personas, and Elvis was a solo act, not a band. Also, Stones music is not built around 'the voice' and Jagger is not irreplaceable in that band because of his great singing.

I could imagine Aerosmith doing aw well as Journey without Tyler, if they found the right singer.

Not after last week. Aerosmith is all over the charts again all because of Tylers affiliation with American Idol. No replacement singer can get you that kind of pub.
It's not like the band needs it anyway. Everything on their career list has been checked off.
Grammies, #1 songs , world wide stadium shows, 150 million albums sold. R & R HOF. Anything from here on out is just iceing on the cake.

True, they've done it all. However, Tyler being on Idol is selling the catelogue. How would the band touring with a replacement interfere with that? I would think the band would benefit, actually. By the way, I'm not encouraging this. I love Tyler in that band.

Right now Steve Tyler IS Aerosmith. If he said Aerosmith touring with a replacement is a fraud, All the Idol maniacs would say he was right. He's got the public on his side at the moment.

Come on. If 'Idol maniacs' or anyone else buys an Aerosmith album, they will hear Tyler. If they went to see a concert with a good replacement singer, they'd hear Aerosmith. Same as with Journey or Foreigner. Aerosmith is much less about Tyler's persona than that.

[Saint John]

Tyler ain't a pussy, though. Dude gets videotaped in women's sunglasses in a convenience store buying booze, and the other tampon straddler can't decide what year to have outpatient surgery on his hip.

[Majestic]

Tyler ain't a pussy, though. Dude gets videotaped in women's sunglasses in a convenience store buying booze, and the other tampon straddler can't decide what year to have outpatient surgery on his hip.

I never bought in to that story. It was probably a convenient excuse to get out.

[iceberg]

I've been listening to Eclipse over and over for the last couple of weeks, and have already retired the album. My initial opinion was "Wow, I LOVE this". Really what I loved was hearing new Cain and Schon music. I'm hung up on the vocals, and it's not Arnel's fault. He gave it a valiant and admirable effort, but he's just no Perry.

Go back and listen to "Separate Ways", "Ask The Lonely", "Stone In Love", and pretty much any of the songs with the stacked, layered vocals. Perry had a technique to stacking those vocals effortlessly and you don't hear anything even similar to that in the post-Perry songs (minus "Remember Me"). It's the missing ingredient to this band, and you'd think the band would try to create those huge, endless layers of vocals that used to be such a big part of their amazing sound... but they don't. They layer a few vocals here and there, but it's just not the same. Hell, several times in Eclipse, the backing vocals don't even end at the same time as the lead vocal, and it sounds sloppy as hell!

Of course Perry sounds nothing like he used to anymore, but I'd take another Perry album with the band over 10 more Arnel albums. Just saying.

i'm gonna dive in and in many ways be what journey fans hate.

journey died when perry left.

i'll explain more when the forum editor quits making this difficult.

[Saint John]

Tyler ain't a pussy, though. Dude gets videotaped in women's sunglasses in a convenience store buying booze, and the other tampon straddler can't decide what year to have outpatient surgery on his hip.

I never bought in to that story. It was probably a convenient excuse to get out.

It was an outright lie. When you have mental issues with a band you once fronted moving forward, and you fabricate shit to get their new lineup stalled, you eventually have to come up with some (pre-existing) condition as an excuse. But time and output (or lack thereof) have proven him to be a liar (again). Unless you're overweight and female, you realize this.

[Don]

Aerosmith is on a different level than Journey and Foreigner. These guys are playing to 50k a night in Tokyo, you can't drop a replacement singer in there and expect the same amount of tickets to sell.

Yes had a sold out Arena tour all set until Anderson got sick. Staples, MSG, the big time venues. The band finds a guy that sounds EXACTLY like him and can't even sell out the House Of Blues. Big time bands just can't do what Journey and Foreigner did. Only Van Halen was able to do it and they did it at their highest peak, right after a #1 album. The difference being Sammy was a natural leader and instantly turned Van Halen into Van Hagar. Not too many replacements have those type of balls.

[iceberg]

Aerosmith is on a different level than Journey and Foreigner. These guys are playing to 50k a night in Tokyo, you can't drop a replacement singer in there and expect the same amount of tickets to sell.

Yes had a sold out Arena tour all set until Anderson got sick. Staples, MSG, the big time venues. The band finds a guy that sounds EXACTLY like him and can't even sell out the House Of Blues. Big time bands just can't do what Journey and Foreigner did. Only Van Halen was able to do it and they did it at their highest peak, right after a #1 album. The difference being Sammy was a natural leader and instantly turned Van Halen into Van Hagar. Not too many replacements have those type of balls.

in tokyo...

just keeping up... : )

[steveo777]

I've been listening to Eclipse over and over for the last couple of weeks, and have already retired the album. My initial opinion was "Wow, I LOVE this". Really what I loved was hearing new Cain and Schon music. I'm hung up on the vocals, and it's not Arnel's fault. He gave it a valiant and admirable effort, but he's just no Perry.

Go back and listen to "Separate Ways", "Ask The Lonely", "Stone In Love", and pretty much any of the songs with the stacked, layered vocals. Perry had a technique to stacking those vocals effortlessly and you don't hear anything even similar to that in the post-Perry songs (minus "Remember Me"). It's the missing ingredient to this band, and you'd think the band would try to create those huge, endless layers of vocals that used to be such a big part of their amazing sound... but they don't. They layer a few vocals here and there, but it's just not the same. Hell, several times in Eclipse, the backing vocals don't even end at the same time as the lead vocal, and it sounds sloppy as hell!

Of course Perry sounds nothing like he used to anymore, but I'd take another Perry album with the band over 10 more Arnel albums. Just saying.

i'm gonna dive in and in many ways be what journey fans hate.

journey died when perry left.

i'll explain more when the forum editor quits making this difficult.

LOL - so you're on of those from that basket, eh? They're doing pretty good for a dead band. What's next, dead people walking?

[Majestic]

Aerosmith is on a different level than Journey and Foreigner. These guys are playing to 50k a night in Tokyo, you can't drop a replacement singer in there and expect the same amount of tickets to sell.

Yes had a sold out Arena tour all set until Anderson got sick. Staples, MSG, the big time venues. The band finds a guy that sounds EXACTLY like him and can't even sell out the House Of Blues. Big time bands just can't do what Journey and Foreigner did. Only Van Halen was able to do it and they did it at their highest peak, right after a #1 album. The difference being Sammy was a natural leader and instantly turned Van Halen into Van Hagar. Not too many replacements have those type of balls.

Do you think Tyler would sell out as a solo act? I don't think so. Even though I guess he could still sing Aerosmith songs that way too. I doubt that would sell as much as an Aerosmith show.

[portland]

I've been listening to Eclipse over and over for the last couple of weeks, and have already retired the album. My initial opinion was "Wow, I LOVE this". Really what I loved was hearing new Cain and Schon music. I'm hung up on the vocals, and it's not Arnel's fault. He gave it a valiant and admirable effort, but he's just no Perry.

Go back and listen to "Separate Ways", "Ask The Lonely", "Stone In Love", and pretty much any of the songs with the stacked, layered vocals. Perry had a technique to stacking those vocals effortlessly and you don't hear anything even similar to that in the post-Perry songs (minus "Remember Me"). It's the missing ingredient to this band, and you'd think the band would try to create those huge, endless layers of vocals that used to be such a big part of their amazing sound... but they don't. They layer a few vocals here and there, but it's just not the same. Hell, several times in Eclipse, the backing vocals don't even end at the same time as the lead vocal, and it sounds sloppy as hell!

Of course Perry sounds nothing like he used to anymore, but I'd take another Perry album with the band over 10 more Arnel albums. Just saying.

i'm gonna dive in and in many ways be what journey fans hate.

journey died when perry left.

i'll explain more when the forum editor quits making this difficult.

LOL - so you're on of those from that basket, eh? They're doing pretty good for a dead band. What's next, dead people walking?

Ask Jon wasn't he seeing ghosts?

[Don]

Outside of the dirty dozen, they may very well be considered dead by most people. They haven't had one album, not containing their hits of yesteryear that has ever gotten anywhere with the majority of the old school fans or music media.
Eclipse was supposed to change all that. I guess we'll find out this week if the fans are truly interested in an album that hasn't any strings attached to the past.

[Rick]

I've been listening to Eclipse over and over for the last couple of weeks, and have already retired the album. My initial opinion was "Wow, I LOVE this". Really what I loved was hearing new Cain and Schon music. I'm hung up on the vocals, and it's not Arnel's fault. He gave it a valiant and admirable effort, but he's just no Perry.

Go back and listen to "Separate Ways", "Ask The Lonely", "Stone In Love", and pretty much any of the songs with the stacked, layered vocals. Perry had a technique to stacking those vocals effortlessly and you don't hear anything even similar to that in the post-Perry songs (minus "Remember Me"). It's the missing ingredient to this band, and you'd think the band would try to create those huge, endless layers of vocals that used to be such a big part of their amazing sound... but they don't. They layer a few vocals here and there, but it's just not the same. Hell, several times in Eclipse, the backing vocals don't even end at the same time as the lead vocal, and it sounds sloppy as hell!

Of course Perry sounds nothing like he used to anymore, but I'd take another Perry album with the band over 10 more Arnel albums. Just saying.

i'm gonna dive in and in many ways be what journey fans hate.

journey died when perry left.

i'll explain more when the forum editor quits making this difficult.

LOL - so you're on of those from that basket, eh? They're doing pretty good for a dead band. What's next, dead people walking?

Ask Jon wasn't he seeing ghosts?

BAM!! Good one!

[iceberg]

I've been listening to Eclipse over and over for the last couple of weeks, and have already retired the album. My initial opinion was "Wow, I LOVE this". Really what I loved was hearing new Cain and Schon music. I'm hung up on the vocals, and it's not Arnel's fault. He gave it a valiant and admirable effort, but he's just no Perry.

Go back and listen to "Separate Ways", "Ask The Lonely", "Stone In Love", and pretty much any of the songs with the stacked, layered vocals. Perry had a technique to stacking those vocals effortlessly and you don't hear anything even similar to that in the post-Perry songs (minus "Remember Me"). It's the missing ingredient to this band, and you'd think the band would try to create those huge, endless layers of vocals that used to be such a big part of their amazing sound... but they don't. They layer a few vocals here and there, but it's just not the same. Hell, several times in Eclipse, the backing vocals don't even end at the same time as the lead vocal, and it sounds sloppy as hell!

Of course Perry sounds nothing like he used to anymore, but I'd take another Perry album with the band over 10 more Arnel albums. Just saying.

i'm gonna dive in and in many ways be what journey fans hate.

journey died when perry left.

i'll explain more when the forum editor quits making this difficult.

LOL - so you're on of those from that basket, eh? They're doing pretty good for a dead band. What's next, dead people walking?

how do you define success?

[iceberg]

Outside of the dirty dozen, they may very well be considered dead by most people. They haven't had one album, not containing their hits of yesteryear that has ever gotten anywhere with the majority of the old school fans or music media.
Eclipse was supposed to change all that. I guess we'll find out this week if the fans are truly interested in an album that hasn't any strings attached to the past.

where did your avatar come from?

[iceberg]

Aerosmith is on a different level than Journey and Foreigner. These guys are playing to 50k a night in Tokyo, you can't drop a replacement singer in there and expect the same amount of tickets to sell.

Yes had a sold out Arena tour all set until Anderson got sick. Staples, MSG, the big time venues. The band finds a guy that sounds EXACTLY like him and can't even sell out the House Of Blues. Big time bands just can't do what Journey and Foreigner did. Only Van Halen was able to do it and they did it at their highest peak, right after a #1 album. The difference being Sammy was a natural leader and instantly turned Van Halen into Van Hagar. Not too many replacements have those type of balls.

Do you think Tyler would sell out as a solo act? I don't think so. Even though I guess he could still sing Aerosmith songs that way too. I doubt that would sell as much as an Aerosmith show.

i'm pissed they didn't sing avant garden.

how personal do you choose to make it?

[steveo777]

I've been listening to Eclipse over and over for the last couple of weeks, and have already retired the album. My initial opinion was "Wow, I LOVE this". Really what I loved was hearing new Cain and Schon music. I'm hung up on the vocals, and it's not Arnel's fault. He gave it a valiant and admirable effort, but he's just no Perry.

Go back and listen to "Separate Ways", "Ask The Lonely", "Stone In Love", and pretty much any of the songs with the stacked, layered vocals. Perry had a technique to stacking those vocals effortlessly and you don't hear anything even similar to that in the post-Perry songs (minus "Remember Me"). It's the missing ingredient to this band, and you'd think the band would try to create those huge, endless layers of vocals that used to be such a big part of their amazing sound... but they don't. They layer a few vocals here and there, but it's just not the same. Hell, several times in Eclipse, the backing vocals don't even end at the same time as the lead vocal, and it sounds sloppy as hell!

Of course Perry sounds nothing like he used to anymore, but I'd take another Perry album with the band over 10 more Arnel albums. Just saying.

i'm gonna dive in and in many ways be what journey fans hate.

journey died when perry left.

i'll explain more when the forum editor quits making this difficult.

LOL - so you're on of those from that basket, eh? They're doing pretty good for a dead band. What's next, dead people walking?

how do you define success?

Still having a fanbase and still selling concert tickets, where people are having a good time. I've been a Journey fan since 1981
and I don't share your view that the band died when Perry left. There was a Journey before Perry too, so let's not conveniently
forget that. Still, however, believing is all in the ears and eyes of the beholder.

[iceberg]

I've been listening to Eclipse over and over for the last couple of weeks, and have already retired the album. My initial opinion was "Wow, I LOVE this". Really what I loved was hearing new Cain and Schon music. I'm hung up on the vocals, and it's not Arnel's fault. He gave it a valiant and admirable effort, but he's just no Perry.

Go back and listen to "Separate Ways", "Ask The Lonely", "Stone In Love", and pretty much any of the songs with the stacked, layered vocals. Perry had a technique to stacking those vocals effortlessly and you don't hear anything even similar to that in the post-Perry songs (minus "Remember Me"). It's the missing ingredient to this band, and you'd think the band would try to create those huge, endless layers of vocals that used to be such a big part of their amazing sound... but they don't. They layer a few vocals here and there, but it's just not the same. Hell, several times in Eclipse, the backing vocals don't even end at the same time as the lead vocal, and it sounds sloppy as hell!

Of course Perry sounds nothing like he used to anymore, but I'd take another Perry album with the band over 10 more Arnel albums. Just saying.

i'm gonna dive in and in many ways be what journey fans hate.

journey died when perry left.

i'll explain more when the forum editor quits making this difficult.

LOL - so you're on of those from that basket, eh? They're doing pretty good for a dead band. What's next, dead people walking?

how do you define success?

Still having a fanbase and still selling concert tickets, where people are having a good time. I've been a Journey fan since 1981
and I don't share your view that the band died when Perry left. There was a Journey before Perry too, so let's not conveniently
forget that. Still, however, believing is all in the ears and eyes of the beholder.

i was a fan of journey with "precious time".

so we disagre.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Well, some people were surprised, but it wasn't me.

Get over yourself, dude. You also claimed Revelation would flop and it sold big time. The wise old sage act is getting pretty stale. These days, you seem more vested in calling out Journey's incompetent business decisions than anything. Have you even heard Eclipse?

[S2M]

Well, some people were surprised, but it wasn't me.

Get over yourself, dude. You also claimed Revelation would flop and it sold big time. The wise old sage act is getting pretty stale. These days, you seem more vested in calling out Journey's incompetent business decisions than anything. Have you even heard Eclipse?

Revelation was aided by fuzzy math, Arnel's rags to riches, plokkerville, and Oprah....you can divide the Revelation's numbers by 3. Then the final number can be thanked to Arnel's story. Noone's(this word has always looked funny to me) wanting to be negative on purpose....we just have a differing opinion.

[Majestic]

Well, some people were surprised, but it wasn't me.

Get over yourself, dude. You also claimed Revelation would flop and it sold big time. The wise old sage act is getting pretty stale. These days, you seem more vested in calling out Journey's incompetent business decisions than anything. Have you even heard Eclipse?

Revelation was aided by fuzzy math, Arnel's rags to riches, plokkerville, and Oprah....you can divide the Revelation's numbers by 3. Then the final number can be thanked to Arnel's story. Noone's(this word has always looked funny to me) wanting to be negative on purpose....we just have a differing opinion.

Dude, it sold big. If you can't accept that, it's you doing the fuzzy math, not Journey. Don posted all the real numbers just the other day. I suspect you may have seen it, and I'm too lazy to link it anyway. Some how I doubt it'd make a difference with you.

[YoungJRNY]

Holy fucking flame war. Looks like the old MR is back. If anyone is selling their tickets to any of this years show, lemme know, I'd gladly buy them AND their CD of ECLIPSE Fuckin love Journey but noone is as easy going as I am. I enjoy the fact that such an impressive band in this era of time is still making some pretty badass records.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Revelation was aided by fuzzy math, Arnel's rags to riches, plokkerville, and Oprah....you can divide the Revelation's numbers by 3.

So what? The forum's resident know-it-all, Monker, predicted that it would fail. He was wrong. Now he acts like he's got it all figured out.

Noone's (this word has always looked funny to me) wanting to be negative on purpose....we just have a differing opinion.

You obviously haven't been on this forum, (or part of online Journey fandom), very long. Of course, posters hate without legitimate reason. I'd bet that Monker hasn't even heard Eclipse. Same with Jrny10 and maybe even you.

[steveo777]

Revelation was aided by fuzzy math, Arnel's rags to riches, plokkerville, and Oprah....you can divide the Revelation's numbers by 3.

So what? The forum's resident know-it-all, Monker, predicted that it would fail. He was wrong. Now he acts like he's got it all figured out.

Noone's (this word has always looked funny to me) wanting to be negative on purpose....we just have a differing opinion.

You obviously haven't been on this forum, (or part of online Journey fandom), very long. Of course, posters hate without legitimate reason. I'd bet that Monker hasn't even heard Eclipse. Same with Jrny10 and maybe even you.

Or if they have heard it, it's not because they went out and bought it. I'm saying right here, right now that the actual purchased CD sounds better
than the MP3 that were leaked. I don't know about the MP3s from Amazon. People who want to click through a few tracks and make a judgement
of this album because of what they heard during their click / skip throughs are missing the boat big time. It's a very good album, IMO, best in
years. The promotion is what is lacking, but not the music.

[Majestic]

Revelation was aided by fuzzy math, Arnel's rags to riches, plokkerville, and Oprah....you can divide the Revelation's numbers by 3.

So what? The forum's resident know-it-all, Monker, predicted that it would fail. He was wrong. Now he acts like he's got it all figured out.

Noone's (this word has always looked funny to me) wanting to be negative on purpose....we just have a differing opinion.

You obviously haven't been on this forum, (or part of online Journey fandom), very long. Of course, posters hate without legitimate reason. I'd bet that Monker hasn't even heard Eclipse. Same with Jrny10 and maybe even you.

Or if they have heard it, it's not because they went out and bought it. I'm saying right here, right now that the actual purchased CD sounds better
than the MP3 that were leaked. I don't know about the MP3s from Amazon. People who want to click through a few tracks and make a judgement
of this album because of what they heard during their click / skip throughs are missing the boat big time. It's a very good album, IMO, best in
years. The promotion is what is lacking, but not the music.

The Amazon Mp3s are a step up from the ones that went around. Much better base and drum, but I'm not sure why that should be so. The disk is still better than Amazon's digitals. On the disk this album is tops.

[Monker]

Well, some people were surprised, but it wasn't me.

Get over yourself, dude. You also claimed Revelation would flop and it sold big time. The wise old sage act is getting pretty stale. These days, you seem more vested in calling out Journey's incompetent business decisions than anything. Have you even heard Eclipse?

Nope...not much in a hurry to hear it either. Seems like a lot of people feel the same way. Haven't really looked that hard to download it.

I don't remember making a specific prediction regarding Revelation...especially after it was tied to the rerecords and a DVD. I said some things about people not buying into this version of Journey and grabbing a new album - but I think that was well before specifics were known about the Revelation package. I said that hiring a YouTube tribute singer was a ridiculously stupid idea...and I still feel that way. I said that the first tour is a given ,that people would go out of curiosity...that the second tour is where we would know if this version of Journey was a success - if people came back. I will say the coming tour is that test...and I would expect it to sell well...but because of the GH, not ANY song off of Revelation or Eclipse. And, I said that Eclipse was way over-hyped on this forum and you should feel lucky if it wells 50,000 in the first way...100,000 was a dream and 125,000 was a riduculous fan-boy fantasy that would never happen.

And, if I did say Revelation won't sell blah, oh, well. It shouldn't have cuz it's mediocre crap, LOL.