UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE

[Lula]

For the record- Dean has lovely teeth

[Matthew]

For the record- Dean has lovely teeth

I guessed as much. He does seem rather preoccupied about dental care.

[Angiekay]

Totally off topic, but Matthew, did you know it's your girl's birthday today?

[Matthew]

Totally off topic, but Matthew, did you know it's your girl's birthday today?

Oh...the shame...I forgot!

[Just Mindy]

Shame on you Matthew, you better get those flowers sent ASAP

[Matthew]

Shame on you Matthew, you better get those flowers sent ASAP

Do you think flowers will be enough? Olivia is very demanding....

[Just Mindy]

Shame on you Matthew, you better get those flowers sent ASAP

Do you think flowers will be enough? Olivia is very demanding....

YAH I know the demanding type very well

Some sexy lingerie too, perhaps?

[Liam]

I'm staying the hell outta here...all this sappy shit makes it sound like Deano & Co. were having a gerbil-fest with me this past weekend...nice guys folks, but I promise, I did nothinig that was featured in the movie Team America to get these rave reviews, honestly!! All I can say though is now I have ANOTHER 2 weeks off, let's see what transpires from THIS!

Just keep singing "Pearl Harbor sucks...and I miss you".

JUST FOR CLAIRIFICATION FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN THE TEAM AMERICA MOVIE....The song is referring to the Pearl Harbor MOVIE and really rips on Ben Affleck and his acting "skills".

Just read this again...and realized not ALL people had seen Team America.

[Matthew]

Shame on you Matthew, you better get those flowers sent ASAP

Do you think flowers will be enough? Olivia is very demanding....

YAH I know the demanding type very well

Some sexy lingerie too, perhaps?

Correct me if I'm wrong...but sexy lingerie rarely goes down well as an apology present.

[Just Mindy]

Shame on you Matthew, you better get those flowers sent ASAP

Do you think flowers will be enough? Olivia is very demanding....

YAH I know the demanding type very well

Some sexy lingerie too, perhaps?

Correct me if I'm wrong...but sexy lingerie rarely goes down well as an apology present.

Its for the make up part, Matt

[iLex]

Classic. I just shit my pants with laughter.

dude where do you get this shit at lmao!!!!

Made it to be my new avatar till it got removed.

Just joking Andrew... your wombat was an easy target!

[The_Noble_Cause]

and really rips on Ben Affleck and his acting "skills".

Don't you mean Matt Damon?

Either way, great movie!

[Liam]

and really rips on Ben Affleck and his acting "skills".

Don't you mean Matt Damon?

Either way, great movie!

The song rips on Ben Affleck....the Movie itself rips on Matt Damon. Love it.

[X factor]

I can safely say this......a new CD is coming. Bet your ass there is ! A pretty fucking stellar one at that too!

Yeah, I'm sure it is. And I'm sure the 40,000 people who line up to buy it will love it to death...will it make any waves on what's left of radio in America? Doubt it very seriously...and by the way, this is more a criticism of what has become of the airwaves in this country than an indictment of the band.
And as great as this line up is (and I agree that they kick ass) face it ya'll...there is only one "line-up" that's gonna deliver this band to the land of all things relevant, and that's if/when Steve Perry comes back. It's the endgame.You know it, I know it, everyone knows it!

[NealIsGod]

I can safely say this......a new CD is coming. Bet your ass there is ! A pretty fucking stellar one at that too!

Yeah, I'm sure it is. And I'm sure the 40,000 people who line up to buy it will love it to death...will it make any waves on what's left of radio in America? Doubt it very seriously...and by the way, this is more a criticism of what has become of the airwaves in this country than an indictment of the band.
And as great as this line up is (and I agree that they kick ass) face it ya'll...there is only one "line-up" that's gonna deliver this band to the land of all things relevant, and that's if/when Steve Perry comes back. It's the endgame.You know it, I know it, everyone knows it!

See this lineup, then let's see if you still feel that way.

[The_Noble_Cause]

You know it, I know it, everyone knows it!

But does anybody care?
Would Perry land the band a charting single? Absolutely.

But, who really cares?
I don't.

[X factor]

You know it, I know it, everyone knows it!

But does anybody care?
Would Perry land the band a charting single? Absolutely.

But, who really cares?

I agree wholeheartedly. That's my point. Just enjoy it, but don't , as some claim, act like the band is poised to break into the charts again. Have you seen ANYTHING resembling Journey in the charts lately? I wish it would happen, I really do. I just don't think it will. And, you're correct . I don't know if Perry could land them a chart topper, but I do think he'd have the best chance of doing so.

[Matthew]

Have you seen ANYTHING resembling Journey in the charts lately?

Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, U2, Nickelback.....etc..etc....

[AR]

Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, U2, Nickelback.....etc..etc....

Leppard's album BRIEFLY was on the charts then died. When was their last hit single?

Bon Jovi turned country.

Aerosmith is starting to fade chart wise.

U2 & Nickelback do get a lot of play. Agree with you there, although neither are anything like Journey.

[Matthew]

Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, U2, Nickelback.....etc..etc....

Leppard's album BRIEFLY was on the charts then died. When was their last hit single?

Bon Jovi turned country.

Aerosmith is starting to fade chart wise.

U2 & Nickelback do get a lot of play. Agree with you there, although neither are anything like Journey.

But AR...at least DL made it on the album chart...maybe it didn't sell on because it was crap...rather than because 'arena rock' no longer appeals to anyone.

As for Aerosmith...their career has always had its ups and downs chartwise....even in the late 70s and 80s too...but they are still charting.

Bon Jovi started that cowboy crap with "Wanted: Dead Or Alive" and that was in the late 80s. But the album which has sold 7.5 million copies since 2001 was not a country album. They're still a melodic rock group...

As are U2 and Nickelback. Yes, there are some big differences between them and Journey - but they're in the same broad genre of music.

I just don't buy all those excuses from the Augeri days that the charts don't matter...that melodic rock is dead...that its better not to have a record deal...etc.

Sure, the most important thing is that Journey are great live and that they record a first-rate album again...but Journey didn't sell 75 million records by accident...they cared deeply about commercial success and industry clout. And then they stopped caring and settled for a third-rate career...and that must partly why they became so sluggish and uninspired in the last two or three years.

At last Journey seem to want it all again...and if they hit the Billboard chart again with JSS you can bet we won't be hearing 'the charts don't mater' line that often. It'll be a real achievement worth celebrating.

[Saint John]

Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, U2, Nickelback.....etc..etc....

Leppard's album BRIEFLY was on the charts then died. When was their last hit single?

Bon Jovi turned country.

Aerosmith is starting to fade chart wise.

U2 & Nickelback do get a lot of play. Agree with you there, although neither are anything like Journey.

But AR...at least DL made it on the album chart...maybe it didn't sell on because it was crap...rather than because 'arena rock' no longer appeals to anyone.

As for Aerosmith...their career has always had its ups and downs chartwise....even in the late 70s and 80s too...but they are still charting.

Bon Jovi started that cowboy crap with "Wanted: Dead Or Alive" and that was in the late 80s. But the album which has sold 7.5 million copies since 2001 was not a country album. They're still a melodic rock group...

As are U2 and Nickelback. Yes, there are some big differences between them and Journey - but they're in the same broad genre of music.

I just don't buy all those excuses from the Augeri days that the charts don't matter...that melodic rock is dead...that its better not to have a record deal...etc.

Sure, the most important thing is that Journey are great live and that they record a first-rate album again...but Journey didn't sell 75 million records by accident...they cared deeply about commercial success and industry clout. And then they stopped caring and settled for a third-rate career...and that must partly why they became so sluggish and uninspired in the last two or three years.

At last Journey seem to want it all again...and if they hit the Billboard chart again with JSS you can bet we won't be hearing 'the charts don't mater' line that often. It'll be a real achievement worth celebrating.

Great post. It's ALL about charting. That's what puts money in your pocket. Some people say touring does, but they're wrong, very wrong. Had Journey not charted in the first place, there woudn't be ANY touring now. And I agree, they DO want it all again. BUT, they need a label, promotion and someone at the helm who gives a shit. Couple that with a good album and they WILL chart, not to mention become relevant again.

[AR]

Great post. It's ALL about charting. That's what puts money in your pocket. Some people say touring does, but they're wrong, very wrong. Had Journey not charted in the first place, there woudn't be ANY touring now. And I agree, they DO want it all again. BUT, they need a label, promotion and someone at the helm who gives a shit. Couple that with a good album and they WILL chart, not to mention become relevant again.

Charting now with the soundscan system is very different than when Journey used to be on the charts. An album can debut at say #9 in the first week when all the die hards go and buy it. (See Kiss, Def Leppard, etc). Then the album is virtually gone in the next week or so. That kind of charting on billboard doesn't mean very much.

It is ALL about touring and merchandise for veteran bands.

Iron Maiden just had a top ten debut in the U.S. for the first time ever. Watch and see what happens in the 2nd week and over all sales.

[AR]

Just checked - Yeah debuted at #16, but has only sold 140,000 copies. Nice in this era, but I'm sure they are much happier being out on the road with Journey and drawing 20,000 tickets a night.

[Saint John]

Great post. It's ALL about charting. That's what puts money in your pocket. Some people say touring does, but they're wrong, very wrong. Had Journey not charted in the first place, there woudn't be ANY touring now. And I agree, they DO want it all again. BUT, they need a label, promotion and someone at the helm who gives a shit. Couple that with a good album and they WILL chart, not to mention become relevant again.

Charting now with the soundscan system is very different than when Journey used to be on the charts. An album can debut at say #9 in the first week when all the die hards go and buy it. (See Kiss, Def Leppard, etc). Then the album is virtually gone in the next week or so. That kind of charting on billboard doesn't mean very much.

It is ALL about touring and merchandise for veteran bands.

Iron Maiden just had a top ten debut in the U.S. for the first time ever. Watch and see what happens in the 2nd week and over all sales.

You make some good points. However, putting Iron Maiden and Journey in the same context made me reach for the airline vomit bag I stole off the last flight I was on. Anyway, Journey COULD have staying power on the charts as more and more of the Perry-era base came back should they chart with quality material. I think it's possible. While I think you're being honest, let's ride the sky high wave they're on now and assume the best. Optimism is a beautiful, and much needed, thing around here. Let's at least try.

[perryfaithful]

pictures, stories, reviews???? Come on guys, we were excited for you and been waiting to join in the fun!

[Saint John]

Just checked - Yeah debuted at #16, but has only sold 140,000 copies. Nice in this era, but I'm sure they are much happier being out on the road with Journey and drawing 20,000 tickets a night.

Fuck it then. Bring back Augeri, go back to tapes and forget about new music. You're a fuckin' buzz kill dude. By the way, Yeah sucked, not to mention it was one of those karaoke albums.

[AR]

Fuck it then. Bring back Augeri, go back to tapes and forget about new music. You're a fuckin' buzz kill dude. By the way, Yeah sucked, not to mention it was one of those karaoke albums.

Didn't mean to kill your buzz. I loved the new lineup! Agree with you about "Yeah" as well.

I'll be as happy as anyone if Journey somehow breaks through with a huge record. Didn't mean to say otherwise. I just prefer to enjoy the shows and records regardless of what they sell.

I'll post the pics in another thread. Hope Niggy & Deano don't mind.

[NealIsGod]

Fuck it then. Bring back Augeri, go back to tapes and forget about new music. You're a fuckin' buzz kill dude. By the way, Yeah sucked, not to mention it was one of those karaoke albums.

Didn't mean to kill your buzz. I loved the new lineup! Agree with you about "Yeah" as well.

I'll be as happy as anyone if Journey somehow breaks through with a huge record. Didn't mean to say otherwise. I just prefer to enjoy the shows and records regardless of what they sell.

I'll post the pics in another thread. Hope Niggy & Deano don't mind.

I'm still waiting for Deano to see them, AR.

[Saint John]

Fuck it then. Bring back Augeri, go back to tapes and forget about new music. You're a fuckin' buzz kill dude. By the way, Yeah sucked, not to mention it was one of those karaoke albums.

Didn't mean to kill your buzz. I loved the new lineup! Agree with you about "Yeah" as well.

I'll be as happy as anyone if Journey somehow breaks through with a huge record. Didn't mean to say otherwise. I just prefer to enjoy the shows and records regardless of what they sell.

I'll post the pics in another thread. Hope Niggy & Deano don't mind.

Sounds good. And I didn't mean to come across as a prick....something I obviously need to work on. Anyway, looking forward to the pics.

[AR]

I'm still waiting for Deano to see them, AR.

I remembered he said that it was ok to do that kind of thing.