Steve Perry writing music

[styxman]

There was no transposed letter in Sticks, you spelt it totally fuckin' wrong.

I was talking about Portuguese.

I know when I'm being mocked.

Do you?


BTW, who's my "idol?"

Red, this is like Wimbledon, go cut the fuckin' grass I'm not mocking you dude, just bored at work

[NoMoreTails]

I still find it hard to accept that actual Journey fans are unmoved by the guy's voice - or think he's just some easily replaceable guy behind a microphone.

Sure I think Perry was an great singer, once as great with his instrument as Neal is with his. But he was one of three main components in this band, not the whole band as some here, not you, have always seemed to think. I just always wanted to hear more of a rock vibe from him. I've never thought he was an easily replaced guy...but I've never thought he was irreplaceable.

[Moon Beam]

It just hasn't been your week has it styxman?



JoePa I swear your getting meaner everyday.
Still baffles me as to your change in type.


Thanks for the shakes men!

[Red13JoePa]

Still baffles me as to your change in type.

Still baffles me as to who my idol is.

BTW, the change is purely a psychosematic figment of your imagination. I've always been more than willing to call spades spades in case of a glut of perry sqealing and propoganda from heads. I'm still thrilled to talk about the good work he's DONE, though.

[Deb]

JoePa I swear your getting meaner everyday.
Still baffles me as to your change in type.

It's his darn AV, it's taking on a life of its own.

[styxman]

Think Journey, think Steve Perry....in simplistic terms, that's were it's always been at. I'm talking casual fans here, not guitar orientated fans, who always veer away from the frontman.

Perry is the one that hooked me in, I remember thinking that's one hell of a voice, wasn't about the music for a long time, it was the voice - that's Journey's trademark not Neals guitar. Don't get me wrong Neal is excellent but Perry, he's on another level.

Sooner people accept Journey is and always will be 75% Perry the better

[Deb]

My thought is that Steve Perry has something to give that comes from a deeper spot than most singers working today. And no matter what his range or ability, what he can offer has a lot more substance.

Couldn't agree more!

[SusieP]

Think Journey, think Steve Perry....in simplistic terms, that's were it's always been at. I'm talking casual fans here, not guitar orientated fans, who always veer away from the frontman.

Perry is the one that hooked me in, I remember thinking that's one hell of a voice, wasn't about the music for a long time, it was the voice - that's Journey's trademark not Neals guitar. Don't get me wrong Neal is excellent but Perry, he's on another level.

Sooner people accept Journey is and always will be 75% Perry the better

Styxie, have you started stashing alcopops at work now?

Your Loon impression is very good by the way.

But who IS red13JoePa's idol?

[Red13JoePa]

Perry is the one that hooked me in, I remember thinking that's one hell of a voice, wasn't about the music for a long time, it was the voice - that's Journey's trademark not Neals guitar.

Not me, and I realize that's not the case for all (as heads unfailingly refuse to recognize) but the thing for me was actually the entire SONGS. The music and all instruments together.

The voice did not leap out and make me go, "holy shit, that dude's Journey, simple as that."


When I began actually deconstructing the music to find out what in hell was going on, and mind you, this was before I had any preconcieved notions of perry or his loons and heads, before I realized there WERE perry jihadists (TM Strangegrey), I realized it was Neal's guitars that were what I thought was the main ingredient.

[Foolish Heart]

Thank you Andrew for brightening up my day with the Perry/Nuno news.

OK - I admit it ....... I AM PROUD TO BE A LOON

I have loved this man for over 20 years and I am feeling pretty optimistic that this is the year. Look at how his name is showing up more and more these days. I will never stop believing....

[Deb]

Perry is the one that hooked me in, I remember thinking that's one hell of a voice, wasn't about the music for a long time, it was the voice - that's Journey's trademark not Neals guitar.

Not me, and I realize that's not the case for all (as heads unfailingly refuse to recognize) but the thing for me was actually the entire SONGS. The music and all instruments together.

The voice did not leap out and make me go, "holy shit, that dude's Journey, simple as that."


When I began actually deconstructing the music to find out what in hell was going on, and mind you, this was before I had any preconcieved notions of perry or his loons and heads, before I realized there WERE perry jihadists (TM Strangegrey), I realized it was Neal's guitars that were what I thought was the main ingredient.

And that is what it is all about on this board. Everybody's varying preferences are great. As long as you walk away with a smile on your face after listening to a "Journey" song, it really doesn't matter what part tugs the most at somebody's soul. As long as ya don't rag on somebody else for their preference, it's all good.

[Playitloudforme]

Precicsely. For each person, it's something different. For a lot it's Neal's guitars, for a lot, it's the vocals. Bottom line, it's all brilliant!

[SusieP]

Perry is the one that hooked me in, I remember thinking that's one hell of a voice, wasn't about the music for a long time, it was the voice - that's Journey's trademark not Neals guitar.

Not me, and I realize that's not the case for all (as heads unfailingly refuse to recognize) but the thing for me was actually the entire SONGS. The music and all instruments together.

The voice did not leap out and make me go, "holy shit, that dude's Journey, simple as that."


When I began actually deconstructing the music to find out what in hell was going on, and mind you, this was before I had any preconcieved notions of perry or his loons and heads, before I realized there WERE perry jihadists (TM Strangegrey), I realized it was Neal's guitars that were what I thought was the main ingredient.

We all have our own way of looking at things don't we?
My very first hearing of Journey was on the radio - I heard 'Who's Cryin Now' and stopped dead in my tracks. The harmonies got me. WOW.
Then I went out and bought Escape, and it was the mix of lead vocal and guitar which blew me away.
I love Perry's voice. I love Neal's guitar. And now the two no longer are in the same band, it isn't the end of the world for me.
But I enjoy listening to Neal's work without Steve and vice versa.
Its never been about the bassist, drummer or keyboard player for me - but lead guit and lead vox. Always the two together.
They were a powerful blend.
But, people move on. And I enjoy some of the guitar work on Perry's solo stuff.
I bought the albums with Augeri, and I'll buy the new one with JSS.
And I'll buy any new stuff Perry puts out. Even if I need a careworker to push my wheelchair to the record store.

I never heard of a Perryloon until I came on here.
Is a loon an obsessive fan? Who cannot see that Perry may have human traits and is not perfect?
I have got that right haven't I?
In which case, I am not a loon.
But I love Perry's voice and many [not all] of his songs.

[styxman]

Perry is the one that hooked me in, I remember thinking that's one hell of a voice, wasn't about the music for a long time, it was the voice - that's Journey's trademark not Neals guitar.

Not me, and I realize that's not the case for all (as heads unfailingly refuse to recognize) but the thing for me was actually the entire SONGS. The music and all instruments together.

The voice did not leap out and make me go, "holy shit, that dude's Journey, simple as that."


When I began actually deconstructing the music to find out what in hell was going on, and mind you, this was before I had any preconcieved notions of perry or his loons and heads, before I realized there WERE perry jihadists (TM Strangegrey), I realized it was Neal's guitars that were what I thought was the main ingredient.

Interesting read and good points but at the end of the day there's only a certain amount of people like you, that would go as far as deconstructing the music and that type of person tends to go against the popular flow....in simple terms, kids like Green Day or Chemical Romance but to elevate them out of the crowd, they stick a Led Zep 'T' on...it's cooler that way.

Perry is seen as the obvious choice to latch onto but those that follow Neal see themselves as the cool dudes. I see it for what it is, the voice backed up by the music. Good as they are now, the magical component is missin', you can blast that guitar 24/7 but it needs to feed a voice ...........and not just a voice, the VOICE

[styxman]

Think Journey, think Steve Perry....in simplistic terms, that's were it's always been at. I'm talking casual fans here, not guitar orientated fans, who always veer away from the frontman.

Perry is the one that hooked me in, I remember thinking that's one hell of a voice, wasn't about the music for a long time, it was the voice - that's Journey's trademark not Neals guitar. Don't get me wrong Neal is excellent but Perry, he's on another level.

Sooner people accept Journey is and always will be 75% Perry the better

Styxie, have you started stashing alcopops at work now?

Your Loon impression is very good by the way.

But who IS red13JoePa's idol?

No alcopops in work, unfortunately and this young lady is not a Loon impression, it's the real me. Like a gay coming out, I feel free and one with nature. I love all things Perry, always have, always will...note this, it's on record

Who's Red's Idol, no idea, who said he had one

[PROPERRY]

I've NEVER been afraid to show how I feel about Steve Perry & his music, I've ALWAYS been a very proud Steve Perry Fan!!!

[SusieP]

Think Journey, think Steve Perry....in simplistic terms, that's were it's always been at. I'm talking casual fans here, not guitar orientated fans, who always veer away from the frontman.

Perry is the one that hooked me in, I remember thinking that's one hell of a voice, wasn't about the music for a long time, it was the voice - that's Journey's trademark not Neals guitar. Don't get me wrong Neal is excellent but Perry, he's on another level.

Sooner people accept Journey is and always will be 75% Perry the better

Styxie, have you started stashing alcopops at work now?

Your Loon impression is very good by the way.

But who IS red13JoePa's idol?

Who's Red's Idol, no idea, who said he had one

You did!!
So if you find out, let me know. And while you're at it, find out who that bloke is in the avatar, please.

[Deb]

Perry is seen as the obvious choice to latch onto but those that follow Neal see themselves as the cool dudes. I see it for what it is, the voice backed up by the music. Good as they are now, the magical component is missin', you can blast that guitar 24/7 but it needs to feed a voice ...........and not just a voice, the VOICE

Pretty much how I feel too, enjoy all components of the band. But call me shallow but alot of it rides on having a great frontman. Perry is one of a kind! Have to admit.....having a passionate, kickass frontman again in JSS is what brought me back around to Journey.

[SusieP]

There's lots of good front men - but they don't have that voice.
Perry's voice is pretty damn special IMO.

Certainly moves me when I hear him. Thankd God for DVD's& CD's.

And isn't it great that he's still got people talking about him after such a long period of 'silence.'
It's rule number one in showbiz, "always leave 'em wanting more."
What a true star.

[frfksakes]

Its never been about the bassist, drummer or keyboard player for me - but lead guit and lead vox. Always the two together.
They were a powerful blend.

That's always been it for me, as well. I love the whole band - they are all individually great and have made some great music on their own. But somehow those two together were magic. Not something concrete that you can analyze, but the kind of magic that is rare, and is either there or it isn't.

[Red13JoePa]

By deconstructing I meant listening to the songs over and over on Time3, not actually listening to each component of the band separately...
Also regarding the point of going against popular opinion just because, and seeing oneself as a cool dude because one's not a loon (a classic loonism, btw: "you either acknowledge perry IS journey or you're just lying about it") I would dispute that and again state I did all this in 1992 before the internet and before I had a notion that perry was this icon and had obnoxious crazy fans.

So I wasn't predisposed to be biased, merely thought he was a pretty good singer and that neal was the main ingredient.

[*Laura]

Nice to come back and read such interesting (different) opinions.
Reading them,I realized that most of you echoed my feelings,so if you don't mind,I can build my post from yours and save time.

So this is what I think too:

"Perry is the one that hooked me in, I remember thinking that's one hell of a voice, wasn't about the music for a long time, it was the voice"
"Then it was the mix of lead vocal and guitar which blew me away."
"My thought is that Steve Perry has something to give that comes from a deeper spot than most singers working today. And no matter what his range or ability, what he can offer has a lot more substance."

"That is what it is all about on this board. Everybody's varying preferences are great. As long as you walk away with a smile on your face after listening to a "Journey" song, it really doesn't matter what part tugs the most at somebody's soul."
"And isn't it great that he's still got people talking about him after such a long period of 'silence.'"


...oh,and of course:

"I'll buy any new stuff Perry puts out. Even if I need a careworker to push my wheelchair to the record store. " (I liked that one, Susie! )


Thanks for the help everyone!

[SusieP]

Its never been about the bassist, drummer or keyboard player for me - but lead guit and lead vox. Always the two together.
They were a powerful blend.

That's always been it for me, as well. I love the whole band - they are all individually great and have made some great music on their own. But somehow those two together were magic. Not something concrete that you can analyze, but the kind of magic that is rare, and is either there or it isn't.

Thats it - you can't describe what it is. It just IS.
But 'rare magic' comes pretty close to describing what they were together.

It's like saying someone is cool, and why are they cool. They just ARE.
And who has star quality. You know it when you see or hear it but you can't pinpoint what it is exactly.

But so glad it exists - that magic.

[SusieP]

Nice to come back and read such interesting (different) opinions.
Reading them,I realized that most of you echoed my feelings,so if you don't mind,I can build my post from yours and save time.

So this is what I think too:

"Perry is the one that hooked me in, I remember thinking that's one hell of a voice, wasn't about the music for a long time, it was the voice"
"Then it was the mix of lead vocal and guitar which blew me away."
"My thought is that Steve Perry has something to give that comes from a deeper spot than most singers working today. And no matter what his range or ability, what he can offer has a lot more substance."

"That is what it is all about on this board. Everybody's varying preferences are great. As long as you walk away with a smile on your face after listening to a "Journey" song, it really doesn't matter what part tugs the most at somebody's soul."
"And isn't it great that he's still got people talking about him after such a long period of 'silence.'"


...oh,and of course:

"I'll buy any new stuff Perry puts out. Even if I need a careworker to push my wheelchair to the record store. " (I liked that one, Susie! )


Thanks for the help everyone!

I think three of those were mine. three out of six! WooHoo!

Its nice to know people are on the same wavelength.

[styxman]

Nice to come back and read such interesting (different) opinions.
Reading them,I realized that most of you echoed my feelings,so if you don't mind,I can build my post from yours and save time.

So this is what I think too:

"Perry is the one that hooked me in, I remember thinking that's one hell of a voice, wasn't about the music for a long time, it was the voice"
"Then it was the mix of lead vocal and guitar which blew me away."
"My thought is that Steve Perry has something to give that comes from a deeper spot than most singers working today. And no matter what his range or ability, what he can offer has a lot more substance."

"That is what it is all about on this board. Everybody's varying preferences are great. As long as you walk away with a smile on your face after listening to a "Journey" song, it really doesn't matter what part tugs the most at somebody's soul."
"And isn't it great that he's still got people talking about him after such a long period of 'silence.'"


...oh,and of course:

"I'll buy any new stuff Perry puts out. Even if I need a careworker to push my wheelchair to the record store. " (I liked that one, Susie! )


Thanks for the help everyone!

I think three of those were mine. three out of six! WooHoo!

Its nice to know people are on the same wavelength.

I'd be worried if I was on your wavelength

[ohsherrie]

I reiterate...for those who claim Steve was "done" in 1983, you just need to go back and listen to "Trial By Fire". I know a lot of Journey fans who share my sentiment that he never sounded better than he did in 1998. I'm convinced he will sound just as amazing, albeit with a slightly diminished range. He has more soul in his voice than he ever has.

My sentiments exactly.

Mine too.

Great post earlier Lora. Thanks

[styxman]

By deconstructing I meant listening to the songs over and over on Time3, not actually listening to each component of the band separately...
Also regarding the point of going against popular opinion just because, and seeing oneself as a cool dude because one's not a loon (a classic loonism, btw: "you either acknowledge perry IS journey or you're just lying about it") I would dispute that and again state I did all this in 1992 before the internet and before I had a notion that perry was this icon and had obnoxious crazy fans.

So I wasn't predisposed to be biased, merely thought he was a pretty good singer and that neal was the main ingredient.

Understood Red.

The main ingredient, looks plain on it's own..Perry made it look like a double Choc cake, with thick cream and some more...fuck I'm hungry

[*Laura]

I'd be worried if I was on your wavelength

Don't you have some rhubarb to pick?




You Loon.

[SusieP]

By deconstructing I meant listening to the songs over and over on Time3, not actually listening to each component of the band separately...
Also regarding the point of going against popular opinion just because, and seeing oneself as a cool dude because one's not a loon (a classic loonism, btw: "you either acknowledge perry IS journey or you're just lying about it") I would dispute that and again state I did all this in 1992 before the internet and before I had a notion that perry was this icon and had obnoxious crazy fans.

So I wasn't predisposed to be biased, merely thought he was a pretty good singer and that neal was the main ingredient.

Understood Red.

The main ingredient, looks plain on it's own..Perry made it look like a double Choc cake, with thick cream and some more...fuck I'm hungry

See- you ARE on my wavelength.
I have chocolate cake in the fridge. AND I have a pot of extra thick cream! ha ha ha ha ha.

[styxman]

I'd be worried if I was on your wavelength

Don't you have some rhubarb to pick?




You Loon.

Picked it