Never Walk Away...Here's Studio Version from WPYX NY

[Eric]

I really like the song! Great vocals and guitars. I could imagine it as a potential love story movie soundtrack or something.

It totally has that end of a movie as the credits start to roll vibe. Some see that as a neagtive, but I don't mean it as such.....

[Eric]

hey Jeremey!! hey man is this version pretty close to the writing sessions?

good job man.. im real proud of ya.. big thumbs up..

Oh yeah...CONGRATS Jeremey!

[jrnychick]

Sounds a bit familiar actually....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MOAW6Q75FNw

I actually heard Be Good to Yourself right away, but couldn't put my finger on what other song it sounds like. When I saw this post I thought, "Jeff's right!" It sounds an awful lot like Believe in Me as well.

I'm going to wait for the official release, because on this version I couldn't really understand much of what Arnel was singing.

[Eric]

I pretty much agree with everything you said. Still looking forward to the new album though, as new Journey of any kind beats no Journey at all.

You aint kidding!

[Eric]

This has the whole "car singing along to it" vibe for me...complete with some Neal air guitar action...

I don't break shit down like some of you peeps do....

some of you won't ALLOW yourselves to like it...come hell or high
water....

You're right about a lot of the naysayers, but I see where some are coming from about it not being anything to knock your socks off. Many were just so excited with the possibilities of JSS is the thing.

[Andrew]

Its Be Good To Yourself, its Never Too Late, its Believe In Me, its.....Journey (but post-Perry era in style).

[Eric]

Personally I really like the song. However, numerous people have said that they wish the band would have gone in a new direction with JSS and how this song is just a retread of old Journey material. Now in this same thread people are saying this sounds just like a song that JSS did. Not trying to start anything here, but does that make sense to anyone? because it doesn't to me. If thats the sound you want, it looks to me like thats the sound you got.

HOOOOOH!

[Jeremey]

Just listened to it for first time, sounds pretty much like the original except for a few embelishments on guitar here and there and Neal's solo originally I think was a bit more interesting on the demo we did. I may get pilloried for saying this, but I am not getting a Steve Perry vibe from Arnel's vocals. It sounds like a Journey track, but it really does sound more like Jimi Jamison or someone like that with a bit more directness in their delivery than Perry. I guess that's good or bad depending on how you look at it. There's something specific about Arnel's delivery that I find a little distracting. I think it's the crescendos he does when he holds out notes...Like "slowly come undooOONNE." Ah well....Looking forward to hearing the CD!

[Abitaman]

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[RockitRide]

Personally I really like the song. However, numerous people have said that they wish the band would have gone in a new direction with JSS and how this song is just a retread of old Journey material. Now in this same thread people are saying this sounds just like a song that JSS did. Not trying to start anything here, but does that make sense to anyone? because it doesn't to me. If thats the sound you want, it looks to me like thats the sound you got.

I guess if someone wants a different direction they can find a different band. By definition, fans like a particular band because they like the style, presentation, sound, etc. etc. Jimmy Buffett fans love his island music style, and none of his fans want to hear a new direction. That ain't rockit science. Unless you have a particular ax to grind, if you like the classic Journey sound then I don't see how anyone can bitch about this tune. There are a lot of fantastic JSS CDs out there so what's the problem?

[conversationpc]

I guess if someone wants a different direction they can find a different band. By definition, fans like a particular band because they like the style, presentation, sound, etc. etc. Jimmy Buffett fans love his island music style, and none of his fans want to hear a new direction. That ain't rockit science. Unless you have a particular ax to grind, if you like the classic Journey sound then I don't see how anyone can bitch about this tune. There are a lot of fantastic JSS CDs out there so what's the problem?

Amen and hallelujah.

[Memorex]

Personally I really like the song. However, numerous people have said that they wish the band would have gone in a new direction with JSS and how this song is just a retread of old Journey material. Now in this same thread people are saying this sounds just like a song that JSS did. Not trying to start anything here, but does that make sense to anyone? because it doesn't to me. If thats the sound you want, it looks to me like thats the sound you got.

I guess if someone wants a different direction they can find a different band. By definition, fans like a particular band because they like the style, presentation, sound, etc. etc. Jimmy Buffett fans love his island music style, and none of his fans want to hear a new direction. That ain't rockit science. Unless you have a particular ax to grind, if you like the classic Journey sound then I don't see how anyone can bitch about this tune. There are a lot of fantastic JSS CDs out there so what's the problem?

There are also a lot of classic Journey albums out there to enjoy as well. Been there, done that. Just bummed that "my" band chose to create un-inspired rehash, I guess

[Pelata]

Its Be Good To Yourself, its Never Too Late, its Believe In Me, its.....Journey (but post-Perry era in style).

Exactly...and it's very good.

[Red13JoePa]

but it really does sound more like Jimi Jamison or someone like that with a bit more directness in their delivery than Perry.

You're the second or third person who's mentioned a possible Jamison vibe...

I'm not hearing it, I'm hearing a lot of Perry, a lot of you of course, a pinch of Castronovo at times and a dash of Chalfont at times.

There are times during the verse when he goes low or deeper (like Jamison's voice) but to me it doesn't SOUND like Jamo...


Whatever the case may be, you're to be congratulated on a VERY good tune.

[NealIsGod]

I don't hear any Perryish sound to his voice at all. Jamison is a good comparison. Let's work a trade of Pineda for MacCauley. There's your different direction.

[Red13JoePa]

I don't hear any Perryish sound to his voice at all. Jamison is a good comparison. Let's work a trade of Pineda for MacCauley. There's your different direction.

Pff.
Don't even get me started on that.

McRobin belongs in McQuiet Riot, not McSurvivor.

EyeOf and myself have been trying to get McSquare peg out the Mcround hole that is McSurvivor and into QR since DuBrow booted.

[NealIsGod]

I don't hear any Perryish sound to his voice at all. Jamison is a good comparison. Let's work a trade of Pineda for MacCauley. There's your different direction.

Pff.
Don't even get me started on that.

McRobin belongs in McQuiet Riot, not McSurvivor.

EyeOf and myself have been trying to get McSquare peg out the Mcround hole that is McSurvivor and into QR since DuBrow booted.

Yeah, that would be a better fit for MacCauley. It would actually be a major improvement over DuBrow, who sucked (may he RIP).

[frfksakes]

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[STORY_TELLER]

Its Be Good To Yourself, its Never Too Late, its Believe In Me, its.....Journey (but post-Perry era in style).

With all due respect, I translate that into: It's rehashed, it's recycled, it's unoriginal, its......a facsimile of what Journey used to be (and it's nothing to tout or hoist up as a standard of achievement).

I mean seriously, people (not just Andrew), you don't have a problem with new music not being new? This is shameful. Not a single song on any album from Infinity to ROR rehashed previous works by the band. Not a one.

If this is the consensus, that it's okay to recycle and rehash previous works, then it's a sad day for music in general because you're telling these guys it's okay for them to continue to rehash other songs. What's next? They recycle Don't Stop Believin'? Or how about if Van Halen goes back and rehashes Runnin' with the Devil. Wouldn't that be awesome? Next up, Def Leppard should recycle Photograph! After all, they're all just "keeping their legacy sound", right?

Have standards of excellence really dropped so low? I can't believe you guys are glossing over this issue.

[Pelata]

I mean seriously, people (not just Andrew), you don't have a problem with new music not being new?

No.

If Steve Perry was still in the band, this is what it would sound like...just with him singing it. Journey writes like Journey. They had some style changes over the years, but their mega-hit was 'Escape', so that's where they stayed. Their not trying to reinvent the wheel...they're just playing Rock N Roll.

Same with Def Leppard, same with Van Halen, same with anyone else. Bands reach a certain point in their creative lives where they know who they are and what most of thier fans want & they do it.

There is a certain sound that the majority of the world associates w/ Journey and that's what they're doing. No harm in it...especially when they do it this well.

Nobody gives new bluegrass musicians a lot of shit for playing traditional bluegrass. They're keeping the music they love alive. Same with established bluegrass bands...they stay true to who they are and what they know their listeners want...nobody gives them a ration of shit for not being "original".

The days of Journey, Def Leppard, Van Halen & Kiss setting the trends are gone...they are simply going to do what they do at this point. We can either follow along or choose a new path.

[Rocker Chic]

"Be Good To Yourself" and "Believe In Me"???? Yep, clear as day to these ears!!!

I immediately thought that when I first heard it yesterday. I'm sorry, everybody, sure it sounds like Journey, but I thought that I already have these songs in my collection, so why would I go and pay for them again????

Even though I haven't purchased a single thing from them since the last show I attended (a couple of years ago), I feel like I was just ripped off, for God's sake. I know that they re-recorded the classics (yeah, whatever), but now it seems that they can't even record an original tune anymore.

I honestly had to stop listening to it, because it was starting to really piss me off. If I want to hear the same thing over and over, I'll go pull out the original recordings (hell, to me, they're better!). Nothing to get all excited over, IMO. Good yeah, but (also) done already.

Not impressed. :::yawn:::

Debbie

[journeyinto2001]

Its Be Good To Yourself, its Never Too Late, its Believe In Me, its.....Journey (but post-Perry era in style).

With all due respect, I translate that into: It's rehashed, it's recycled, it's unoriginal, its......a facsimile of what Journey used to be (and it's nothing to tout or hoist up as a standard of achievement).

I mean seriously, people (not just Andrew), you don't have a problem with new music not being new? This is shameful. Not a single song on any album from Infinity to ROR rehashed previous works by the band. Not a one.

If this is the consensus, that it's okay to recycle and rehash previous works, then it's a sad day for music in general because you're telling these guys it's okay for them to continue to rehash other songs. What's next? They recycle Don't Stop Believin'? Or how about if Van Halen goes back and rehashes Runnin' with the Devil. Wouldn't that be awesome? Next up, Def Leppard should recycle Photograph! After all, they're all just "keeping their legacy sound", right?

Have standards of excellence really dropped so low? I can't believe you guys are glossing over this issue.

With all due respect, the "standard" that the large majority of Journey fans enjoy most is that set when the band was with Perry. It may seem like a rehash to you but it is what Journey fans have been wanting, and frankly not getting, since Perry left. This is a return to that "standard" and thus, Journey will see it's greatest success since the Perry days because of this in my opinion. THIS IS WHAT THE FANS WANT!

JOURNEY ON!

[Pelata]

Journey will see it's greatest success since the Perry days because of this in my opinion.

Journey will see their greatest success since Perry because of Wal-Mart. Had this deal been in place w/ Augeri, the same thing would have happened.

The new song is still awesome...but so was "Higer Place" and "Signs Of Life"...

[STORY_TELLER]

I mean seriously, people (not just Andrew), you don't have a problem with new music not being new?

No.

If Steve Perry was still in the band, this is what it would sound like...just with him singing it. Journey writes like Journey. They had some style changes over the years, but their mega-hit was 'Escape', so that's where they stayed. Their not trying to reinvent the wheel...they're just playing Rock N Roll.

Same with Def Leppard, same with Van Halen, same with anyone else. Bands reach a certain point in their creative lives where they know who they are and what most of thier fans want & they do it.

There is a certain sound that the majority of the world associates w/ Journey and that's what they're doing. No harm in it...especially when they do it this well.

Nobody gives new bluegrass musicians a lot of shit for playing traditional bluegrass. They're keeping the music they love alive. Same with established bluegrass bands...they stay true to who they are and what they know their listeners want...nobody gives them a ration of shit for not being "original".

The days of Journey, Def Leppard, Van Halen & Kiss setting the trends are gone...they are simply going to do what they do at this point. We can either follow along or choose a new path.

Pelata, I'm sorry, but you're confusing two different issues. The issue is not about changing the sound of band or reinventing any wheel. It's about revisiting a song they already made. As Andrew touted, it's "Be Good To Yourself" (among others which also revisited Be Good to Yourself). That's called rehashing old material and calling it new material. Remember Me was a new original song that had the Journey sound. It didn't reinvent the wheel, right? But guess what? It was a "new" song. Not rehashed. Not recycled. NEW. ...I really feel like a broken record repeating this so often.

and no, I'm sorry, this isn't about Perry, but I disagree that if Perry were in the band, that this song would have turned out this way. He was a major songwriter in the band, not just lyrically, but melodically. The majority creative driving force in the band. As much of a perfectionist has he's known to be, seriously doubt he would let this fly. He was the guy who Cain referred to as the one who "bled a little over every song".

[STORY_TELLER]

"Be Good To Yourself" and "Believe In Me"???? Yep, clear as day to these ears!!!

I immediately thought that when I first heard it yesterday. I'm sorry, everybody, sure it sounds like Journey, but I thought that I already have these songs in my collection, so why would I go and pay for them again????

Even though I haven't purchased a single thing from them since the last show I attended (a couple of years ago), I feel like I was just ripped off, for God's sake. I know that they re-recorded the classics (yeah, whatever), but now it seems that they can't even record an original tune anymore.

I honestly had to stop listening to it, because it was starting to really piss me off. If I want to hear the same thing over and over, I'll go pull out the original recordings (hell, to me, they're better!). Nothing to get all excited over, IMO. Good yeah, but (also) done already.

Not impressed. :::yawn:::

Debbie

THANK YOU

Finally someone who gets it!

[STORY_TELLER]

Its Be Good To Yourself, its Never Too Late, its Believe In Me, its.....Journey (but post-Perry era in style).

With all due respect, I translate that into: It's rehashed, it's recycled, it's unoriginal, its......a facsimile of what Journey used to be (and it's nothing to tout or hoist up as a standard of achievement).

I mean seriously, people (not just Andrew), you don't have a problem with new music not being new? This is shameful. Not a single song on any album from Infinity to ROR rehashed previous works by the band. Not a one.

If this is the consensus, that it's okay to recycle and rehash previous works, then it's a sad day for music in general because you're telling these guys it's okay for them to continue to rehash other songs. What's next? They recycle Don't Stop Believin'? Or how about if Van Halen goes back and rehashes Runnin' with the Devil. Wouldn't that be awesome? Next up, Def Leppard should recycle Photograph! After all, they're all just "keeping their legacy sound", right?

Have standards of excellence really dropped so low? I can't believe you guys are glossing over this issue.

With all due respect, the "standard" that the large majority of Journey fans enjoy most is that set when the band was with Perry. It may seem like a rehash to you but it is what Journey fans have been wanting, and frankly not getting, since Perry left. This is a return to that "standard" and thus, Journey will see it's greatest success since the Perry days because of this in my opinion. THIS IS WHAT THE FANS WANT!

JOURNEY ON!

No, they want NEW music that sounds like Journey. Not REHASHED songs the band already made. That's what you don't get. You are confusing two different issues. Nobody said they should sound like anything other than what we know to be the Journey sound.

[NealIsGod]

I think people are overreacting over one song on a CD with 10 more on it (albeit one of those is a remake )

[Pelata]

It's about revisiting a song they already made. As Andrew touted, it's "Be Good To Yourself" (among others which also revisited Be Good to Yourself). That's called rehashing old material and calling it new material. Remember Me was a new original song that had the Journey sound. It didn't reinvent the wheel, right? But guess what? It was a "new" song. Not rehashed. Not recycled. NEW. ...I really feel like a broken record repeating this so often.

Oh, I see. Well, some would call that having a "signature sound"...AC/DC does it, Boston did it, other bands have done it...

I don't see it as a "rehash" or "rewrite" of "BGTY" or "BIM"....but its def got a similar vibe (and why shouldn't it, the same guitarist plays all 3 songs)...but so does "Love Don't Come Easy" by White Lion....similar vibe...in fact, when I was listening to "Never Walk Away", there was a point after the first chorus where I was reminded of "Tell Me" from White Lion. Were they rehashing WL? No...its simply a song with a similar vibe, IMO. The new song shares more of a vibe with these other songs than it is an example of "rehashing".

Anyway, I probably sound like I'm splitting hairs now. I don't mind Journey sounding like Journey...

[Rick]

"Be Good To Yourself" and "Believe In Me"???? Yep, clear as day to these ears!!!

I immediately thought that when I first heard it yesterday. I'm sorry, everybody, sure it sounds like Journey, but I thought that I already have these songs in my collection, so why would I go and pay for them again????

Even though I haven't purchased a single thing from them since the last show I attended (a couple of years ago), I feel like I was just ripped off, for God's sake. I know that they re-recorded the classics (yeah, whatever), but now it seems that they can't even record an original tune anymore.

I honestly had to stop listening to it, because it was starting to really piss me off. If I want to hear the same thing over and over, I'll go pull out the original recordings (hell, to me, they're better!). Nothing to get all excited over, IMO. Good yeah, but (also) done already.

Not impressed. :::yawn:::

Debbie

THANK YOU

Finally someone who gets it!

a couple of us do

Tell me exactly what it is that you get that I and others don't. Please.

[frfksakes]

"Be Good To Yourself" and "Believe In Me"???? Yep, clear as day to these ears!!!

I immediately thought that when I first heard it yesterday. I'm sorry, everybody, sure it sounds like Journey, but I thought that I already have these songs in my collection, so why would I go and pay for them again????

Even though I haven't purchased a single thing from them since the last show I attended (a couple of years ago), I feel like I was just ripped off, for God's sake. I know that they re-recorded the classics (yeah, whatever), but now it seems that they can't even record an original tune anymore.

I honestly had to stop listening to it, because it was starting to really piss me off. If I want to hear the same thing over and over, I'll go pull out the original recordings (hell, to me, they're better!). Nothing to get all excited over, IMO. Good yeah, but (also) done already.

Not impressed. :::yawn:::

Debbie

Tell us what you really think

jk. & I can totally relate to what you're saying. It frustrates me to no end that JRNY seems so determined to stay with a formula rather than grow creatively. I'm still trying to hold judgment about what I haven’t heard yet, and would love nothing more than to be thrilled by the new album -
But the only good thing that I've seen from all of this so far, has been Arnel's story. It's hard not to root for this guy - even while I'm cursing his bandmates, lol.