Well, it happened...... Discuss!

[The_Noble_Cause]

The only thing I'm calling you out on is your comparison of Perry to the Kardashians...which is what you said.
"Perry, at this late stage, is a professional celebrity, who makes random cameos at red carpet events...alot like the Kardashians."

Which is 100% accurate. In the past two decades, show me his albums, show me the ticket stubs from the world tours? Show me something, anything, besides snapped photographs by the tabloid press and archived TMZ & Perez Hilton web articles? You can't.

[Memorex]

Comparing a legendary rock singer to people who are famous for being famous (and making home made porn movies)...yeah that's logical.

NOT what I said. Don't quote me out of context, illiterate asshole. Perry hasn't toured in decades, and his voice is very rough. If he sang with the Eels and sounded like Mickey Thomas, I would be first in line to start a petition to have Arnel forcibly removed. The illogical ones are the sad fools (like yourself) who think this one-off performance is anything more than a retiree reliving his heyday. Fuck off.

I guess it's Memorex calling out TNC day. Sorry.

If Steve Perry sounded like Thomas, why would you petition to have Arnel removed? My point being, what does one thing have to do with the other? Arnel is the singer for Journey. Period. And no one should assume it's anything different just because Steve Perry went on stage one night. And if Steve released an album and launched a full on tour - same thing. Steve is doing Steve. Journey is doing Journey. I think his performance is just him going out and singing, which is his right. I don't think it's him auditioning for Journey. Imagine if that's what he wanted. There are huge money-making ways to make that entrance.

Anyway, my point is why can't Steve go out and sing whenever he likes with you assuming it's just him reliving his heyday?

As far as the professional celebrity thing - what else do you want? He goes to these premiers because he is friends with people or had a hand in the process. He's not allowed to be talked to and photographed if he hasn't released anything? To equate Perry - who very much earned his celebrity - to a Karslutian is just infrickinsane.

What do you want him to do - have him tell people not to notice him because he hasn't released anything? If anything, he has tempered the celebrity quite a bit by staying out of the limelight.

[Art Vandelay]

The only thing I'm calling you out on is your comparison of Perry to the Kardashians...which is what you said.
"Perry, at this late stage, is a professional celebrity, who makes random cameos at red carpet events...alot like the Kardashians."

Which is 100% accurate. In the past two decades, show me his albums, show me the ticket stubs from the world tours? Show me something, anything, besides snapped photographs by the tabloid press and archived TMZ & Perez Hilton web articles? You can't.

In the public eye, you're absolutely right. He hasn't been an active front man with Journey or with a solo career for a while now. Thanks for pointing that out, Captain Obvious.

Now riddle me this...what do you know about his doings behind the scenes for other artists. Seems like that's his thing now according to what these other artists mention on their own twitter feeds.

[The_Noble_Cause]

In the public eye, you're absolutely right. He hasn't been an active front man with Journey or with a solo career for a while now. Thanks for pointing that out, Captain Obvious.

Again, totally out of context. A poster in this thread suggested Steven Tyler, as an example of an older singer who still has a strong voice. The difference being, Tyler performs regularly while Perry takes cat selfies. Seems you are just intolerant of any opinion that doesn't toe the line and proclaim the Eels performance as the second coming of Mozart. Maybe you would feel more at home posting downstairs in ass kiss central aka The Perry Forum.

Now riddle me this...what do you know about his doings behind the scenes for other artists. Seems like that's his thing now according to what these other artists mention on their own twitter feeds.

Couldn't care less. As a music consumer, I know he doesn't tour or record, so any comparison to Tyler, DeYoung, Thomas, or any active contemporary is just dumb.

[Art Vandelay]

In the public eye, you're absolutely right. He hasn't been an active front man with Journey or with a solo career for a while now. Thanks for pointing that out, Captain Obvious.

Again, totally out of context. A poster in this thread suggested Steven Tyler, as an example of an older singer who still has a strong voice. The difference being, Tyler performs regularly while Perry takes cat selfies. Seems you are just intolerant of any opinion that doesn't toe the line and proclaim the Eels performance as the second coming of Mozart. Maybe you would feel more at home posting downstairs in ass kiss central aka The Perry Forum.

Now riddle me this...what do you know about his doings behind the scenes for other artists. Seems like that's his thing now according to what these other artists mention on their own twitter feeds.

Couldn't care less. As a music consumer, I know he doesn't tour or record, so any comparison to Tyler, DeYoung, Thomas, or any active contemporary is just dumb.

You're missing my point...I'm not comparing Perry to anyone, nor would I care to see him back in Journey again at this point. None of that was ever implicated in any of my posts regarding his appearance, other than "hey nice to see him back on a stage again'. I'm just tripping over your comparisons, which I'm apparently taking out of context...word for word.
So lets just call it a day.

[Memorex]

Sometimes it hits me that I am 47 years old arguing about Steve Perry. I need a life.

[Art Vandelay]

Sometimes it hits me that I am 47 years old arguing about Steve Perry. I need a life.

Ha! Seriously!

[RedWingFan]

Tyler performs regularly while Perry takes cat selfies.

Haven't had a laugh like this on MR in quite awhile. Thanks!

[Liz22562]

"his legacy is eternally secure with the band and he can never be excised from it so he really has nothing to lose"

Well said!

I suppose for me (a "die-hard" Perry fan), I could care less what he sings, or, if he can hit the high notes or not. I'd just like to see him on stage one more time before I can't get out of bed any more.....

[Yoda]

"his legacy is eternally secure with the band and he can never be excised from it so he really has nothing to lose"

Well said!

I suppose for me (a "die-hard" Perry fan), I could care less what he sings, or, if he can hit the high notes or not. I'd just like to see him on stage one more time before I can't get out of bed any more.....

Exactly! I don't care if Steve Perry ever performs with Journey again. I don't care if he never sings any Journey songs the rest of his life. I DO care that he will look at this little cameo on stage as a new beginning of his professional career and release new music. It's obvious to me that he still has the chops to really put together some great sounding vocals.

But on a side note, God bless Arnel Pineda. That dude is total class! I have so much respect for him - much more than I did when he was first hired in Journey. The man is living out a dream, yet he understands that nothing good lasts forever. And even in spite of the fact that his vocals have carried and continue to carry the present Journey lineup, he's willing to step away from the band - for better or worse - and allow Perry to come back. I know Augeri said the same thing a few years ago. But Arnel seems to be pretty genuine in his thoughts that the fame is not important to him - in the end it's family. That's a pretty cool guy there!

[Ehwmatt]

He sounds about like I expected him to. The bigger surprise for me is finding out The Eels are still around. Man, I thought they were a shitty one-hit wonder in post-grunge 1996 that quickly faded away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2yy141q8HQ

Can anybody speak to whether these clowns actually have had viable commercial success or good live ticket sales?

[jrny84]

Here are a few more videos of Perry shot very close to the stage:

Its a Mother
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbaj_exxsZU

Open Arms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bacsfjcMt08

[slucero]

...some people just cannot be happy for Perry that he has taken the opportunity to again do what most of us would agree he was born to do...


...sing.

[AR]

To the Loons.

You all criticized every note Steve Augeri, Jeff Scott Soto, Jeremey Hunsicker and Arnel Pineda ever sang.

Now when Perry gets up there and is way substandard you think it's great?

I am VERY glad he got on stage. He is the reason Journey did everything they did.

But....... He really kind of sounded like ass.

Also he is 65 years old. I recognize that and got a kick out of the performance for what it was. Thinking it was anything more than that is "loonacy"

[Memorex]

I still don't understand why we are not allowed to like what we heard. I'm not one of these ones that criticized anyB of the other singers, except to say Tapegate was a disgrace and people should just not sing rather than put a tape on. I blame Neal and Jon more on that though.

I'd rather hear Steve as he sounds today than someone mimic his songs. I'd far rather hear Arnel sing the songs completely different than the same. And if Perry was in perfect voice and fronting Journey, I'd still want the songs a little different. The same song the same way for 30+ years is BORING. But that's just me.

I'm glad I get to enjoy the performance. Just hate being accused of deceiving myself over it. You should enjoy what you enjoy, and I should enjoy what I do.

By the way - Foreigner and Queensryche - I think their new singers are pretty phenomenal. But I'll be damned if I can get more than 4 songs in their respective latest albums because I cannot stand the mimicking. I wish all bands that went through this took the Van Halen route.

[jrny84]

To the Loons.

You all criticized every note Steve Augeri, Jeff Scott Soto, Jeremey Hunsicker and Arnel Pineda ever sang.

Now when Perry gets up there and is way substandard you think it's great?

I am VERY glad he got on stage. He is the reason Journey did everything they did.

But....... He really kind of sounded like ass.

Also he is 65 years old. I recognize that and got a kick out of the performance for what it was. Thinking it was anything more than that is "loonacy"

So now a person who enjoys Perry's performance is a loon?? Give me a break! You can dislike his performance all you want, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. I dont call you a lunatic for making a derogatory comment about his performance. You are entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else. I respect and like some of the above singers you mentioned, but Perry will always be "The Voice" to me. By the way...the majority of the general public seems to like his performance.

[Deb]

Comparing a legendary rock singer to people who are famous for being famous (and making home made porn movies)...yeah that's logical.

NOT what I said. Don't quote me out of context, illiterate asshole. Perry hasn't toured in decades, and his voice is very rough. If he sang with the Eels and sounded like Mickey Thomas, I would be first in line to start a petition to have Arnel forcibly removed. The illogical ones are the sad fools (like yourself) who think this one-off performance is anything more than a retiree reliving his heyday. Fuck off.

The only thing I'm calling you out on is your comparison of Perry to the Kardashians...which is what you said.
"Perry, at this late stage, is a professional celebrity, who makes random cameos at red carpet events...alot like the Kardashians."

Have to agree, listen to yourself TNC......Perry a fame whore a la the Kardasians?! I usually LOL at your posts, but this one had me going Huh???? The guy shows up to a few events because he has either had something to do with it or it is a good friend, the Kardasians show up or get paid to show up at random events they usually have had nothing to do with behind the scenes. Perry is pretty private and if anything avoids the limelight. Hell, almost every article has the word reclusive in it. Might want to look up the definition of professional celebrity/fame whore, LOL the last picture you will see there is SP's.

And the illogical ones are the sad fools who actually think this is an audition to rejoin Journey. Don't know what some people can't understand about him mentioning many times, that he does NOT want to rejoin Journey. I think I will just enjoy it for the simple fact of what it was, him joining a band he really likes for a few songs. It just happened to make networks all over because he hasn't sang in 20 years and he IS Steve motherfuckin Perry.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Have to agree, listen to yourself TNC......Perry a fame whore a la the Kardasians?! I usually LOL at your posts, but this one had me going Huh???? The guy shows up to a few events because he has either had something to do with it or it is a good friend, the Kardasians show up or get paid to show up at random events they usually have had nothing to do with behind the scenes.

If you look at the vast majority of Perry-related posts on this forum over the years, they have been because SP showed up at a baseball game or some movie event. I never called him a "fame whore", those are your words, not mine.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I still don't understand why we are not allowed to like what we heard.

Oh, you poor persecuted baby. You are like the Rosa Park of music or something.

By the way - Foreigner and Queensryche - I think their new singers are pretty phenomenal. But I'll be damned if I can get more than 4 songs in their respective latest albums because I cannot stand the mimicking.

Kelly Hansen is NOT mimicking anyone. And that's a shame, because the new 'Ryche album is quality stuff.

[Gideon]

...some people just cannot be happy for Perry that he has taken the opportunity to again do what most of us would agree he was born to do...


...sing.

Nah, AR's right on the money. If this was anyone else, they'd be getting it from all ends. And, no offense Slucero, but you'd probably be leading the charge.

But that's ok, as long as I'm around, I'll make sure things stay fair.

[Aaron]

There are examples of guys in their 60's that can still sing at the top end of their range well. Tyler and Hagar are just a couple of examples. If Steve can get his muscle strength back, he will get better. Look at how much improvement Gramm has seen over the past few years.

Steven Tyler has shown he can continue to have a strong voice and I think Steve can come back to a reasonable level with a LOT of work.

Oh please. Steven Tyler never went into reclusion for over a decade. Tyler is a professional singer. Perry, at this late stage, is a professional celebrity, who makes random cameos at red carpet events...alot like the Kardashians.

[AR]

There are examples of guys in their 60's that can still sing at the top end of their range well. Tyler and Hagar are just a couple of examples. If Steve can get his muscle strength back, he will get better. Look at how much improvement Gramm has seen over the past few years.

Steven Tyler has shown he can continue to have a strong voice and I think Steve can come back to a reasonable level with a LOT of work.

Oh please. Steven Tyler never went into reclusion for over a decade. Tyler is a professional singer. Perry, at this late stage, is a professional celebrity, who makes random cameos at red carpet events...alot like the Kardashians.

With all due respect to Foreigner, the Journey catalog is insanely more difficult to sing.

There are people on here going nuts because Journey drops down a step for Arnel. Then you had "Augeri is too pitchy", "Soto isn't really a high tenor", etc.
Ok, what key was Perry in the other night?

You're right though, he can only get better if he chooses to do more, and I hope he does.

However expecting a 65 year old man to front Journey again is what is unrealistic.

[Aaron]

Hey AR, how are you man? Good to hear from you.

Agree on the Foreigner vs. Journey catalog.

I was one of the people going nuts on detuning with a replacement. I'll accept it from the original singer but not a replacement. There are guys that can do it without detuning. Listen to the dude from Resurrection that Jeremey posted, I mean wow!

Yes it was detuned a lot but the dude is the original singer that wrote a good portion of the songs.

Fronting Journey is a stretch for sure. Having him sit in a few songs per set with backup from Arnel would be cool. Delp had help on his last tour with Boston and I thought it was fine.

Listen to that 10 second of Lovin Touchin Squeezin towards the end. He steps it up quite a bit. I'm with you 100%, lets hope he keeps working it and gets better!

With all due respect to Foreigner, the Journey catalog is insanely more difficult to sing.

There are people on here going nuts because Journey drops down a step for Arnel. Then you had "Augeri is too pitchy", "Soto isn't really a high tenor", etc.
Ok, what key was Perry in the other night?

You're right though, he can only get better if he chooses to do more, and I hope he does.

However expecting a 65 year old man to front Journey again is what is unrealistic.

[scarygirl]

Dear AR:

It isn't just about the "notes," it is that certain "it" factor that makes someone a star. Lots of people can hit the notes, but not everyone has that certain something extra, that "it" factor that makes people take notice.

To the Loons.

You all criticized every note Steve Augeri, Jeff Scott Soto, Jeremey Hunsicker and Arnel Pineda ever sang.

Now when Perry gets up there and is way substandard you think it's great?

I am VERY glad he got on stage. He is the reason Journey did everything they did.

But....... He really kind of sounded like ass.

Also he is 65 years old. I recognize that and got a kick out of the performance for what it was. Thinking it was anything more than that is "loonacy"

[slucero]

...some people just cannot be happy for Perry that he has taken the opportunity to again do what most of us would agree he was born to do...


...sing.

Nah, AR's right on the money. If this was anyone else, they'd be getting it from all ends. And, no offense Slucero, but you'd probably be leading the charge.

But that's ok, as long as I'm around, I'll make sure things stay fair.

Gid.. Fuck You.

(see that wasn't all passive aggressive like your post)

Once again.. there you go, not reading the whole thread again.. parsing posts again..

like I said in my 1st post:

That was hard to listen to, I kept remembering the Perry of my youth....

....now maybe this can be put to rest.

so to repeat (even though I'm sure you'll still not get it) ... I'm glad he sang... and as a result anyone with ears can see (hear) there's no way he could sing those songs in their original key, so no reunion....


you musta missed that part... but hey.. that's what you do...

[brywool]

It's funny, it's ALWAYS the ladies that stick up for Mr. Perry. Always.

Slucero's right- with THAT VOICE there's no way he could do Journey stuff. His best bet is to reinvent himself as and R&B guy and it would be awesome. I hope he does this, after all "he's working on something...".

And yes- IF THIS WAS ANYBODY ELSE people would be ripping it apart. No question.

Having said that, it's AWESOME that he came out to play for a bit.

[tater1977]

Well, it happened.....again....Wash DC

[Gideon]

...some people just cannot be happy for Perry that he has taken the opportunity to again do what most of us would agree he was born to do...


...sing.

Nah, AR's right on the money. If this was anyone else, they'd be getting it from all ends. And, no offense Slucero, but you'd probably be leading the charge.

But that's ok, as long as I'm around, I'll make sure things stay fair.

Gid.. Fuck You.

(see that wasn't all passive aggressive like your post)

Once again.. there you go, not reading the whole thread again.. parsing posts again..

like I said in my 1st post:

That was hard to listen to, I kept remembering the Perry of my youth....

....now maybe this can be put to rest.

so to repeat (even though I'm sure you'll still not get it) ... I'm glad he sang... and as a result anyone with ears can see (hear) there's no way he could sing those songs in their original key, so no reunion....


you musta missed that part... but hey.. that's what you do...

I struck a nerve without even trying; when did you become so delicate? Anyway, the people who aren't jumping for joy over this obviously think the performance is substandard. Why the fuck should anyone celebrate a lackluster effort from a vocal heavyweight like Perry?

You admit the performance sucks but the player should still get a big-ass trophy just for showing up to the game in the final quarter. Doesn't make any sense and it makes even less sense that you'd admonish people for not cramming into the Perry bandwagon here. Would you be heaping praise on Arnel just for showing up if he sucked ass? Doubt it.

I understand praise from those that think this performance was good; but what you're proposing is goofy as shit: "I know it sucks, but it's Steve motherfucking Perry so everyone give him a round of applause and a handjob for just showing up!!!!!"

You're better than this.

[Final Frontiers]

Well, it happened.....again....Wash DC

Well, I guess it's time to troll every one of The Eels tour dates for Steve Perry videos Or bite the bullet and actually go to a show. It seems like Perry has unofficially joined The Eels. Who needs Journey?

It looks like The Eels will perform in San Francisco at the Palace of Fine Arts Theater on June 10th. Will Steve Perry come so close to his former stomping grounds? He'll be six months late for Neal's wedding. But as they say, "Better late than never" .


Here's the video- "It's A Motherf!@#$er, Only Sixteen, Open Arms, Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin'". I'm not familiar with "Only Sixteen" was that a solo song or was it from Journey?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86vD3nsua_s

Okay, now Neal, Jon, and Ross will have to give a statement. Once could be ignored as a fluke, twice is now a thing. Steve Perry joining The Eels tour is officially a thing.





Eels Tour Dates:
05/29 Boston, MA @ Berklee Performance Center
05/30 Philadelphia, PA @ Keswick Theater
05/31 Washington, DC @ Lincoln Theater
06/01 New York, NY @ The Apollo Theater
06/03 Detroit, MI @ Royal Oak Music Theater
06/04 Madison, WI @ Barrymore Theater
06/07 Seattle, WA @ The Moore Theater
06/08 Portland, OR @ Aladdin Theater
06/10 San Francisco, CA @ Palace of Fine Arts Theater
06/11 Los Angeles, CA @ The Orpheum Theater
06/15 Oxford, UK @ New Theater
06/16 Manchester, UK @ Bridgewater Hall
06/17 Glasgow, UK @ Royal Concert Hall
06/18 Cambridge, UK @ Corn Exchange
06/19 Bexhill, UK @ De La Warr Pavilion
06/21 Linz, Austria @ Posthof
06/22 Vienna, Austria @ Konzerthaus
06/24 Berlin, Germany @ Tempodrome
06/25 Amsterdam, Holland @ Het Koninklijk Concertgebouw
06/26 Amsterdam, Holland @ Het Koninklijk Concertgebouw
06/27 Rotterdam, Holland @ Concertgebouw De Doelen
06/28 Eindhoven, Holland @ Muziekgebouw Frits Philips Eindhoven (Naked Song Festival)
06/30 London, UK @ Royal Albert Hall
07/01 Dublin, Ireland @ Olympia
07/02 Dublin, Ireland @ Olympia
07/04 Werchter, Belgium @ Werchter Festival
07/05 Groningen, Holland @ Koninklijke Stadsschouwburg Groningen
07/06 Montreux, Switzerland @ Montreux Jazz Festival
07/07 Zurich, Switzerland @ Kongress Haus
07/08 Luxembourg @ Grand Theatre
07/10 Paris, France @ Days Off Festival
07/11 Toulouse, France @ Bikini
07/12 Barcelona, Spain @ Teatre Grec
07/14 Madrid, Spain @ Circo Price
07/17 Florence, Italy @ Teatro Romano di Fiesole
07/18 Milan, Italy @ Auditorium di Milano
07/20 Antwerp, Belgium @ Rivierenhof
07/21 Antwerp, Belgium @ Rivierenhof
07/22 Hamburg, Germany @ Laeiszhalle
07/24 London, England @ Barbican
07/25 Bristol, England @ Colston Hall
07/26 Gateshead, England @ Sage
07/27 Salisbury, England @ City Hall


http://www.stereogum.com/1683659/qa-e-e ... interview/

[tater1977]

Well, it happened.....again....Wash DC

Well, I guess it's time to troll every one of The Eels tour dates for Steve Perry videos Or bite the bullet and actually go to a show. It seems like Perry has unofficially joined The Eels. Who needs Journey?

It looks like The Eels will perform in San Francisco at the Palace of Fine Arts Theater on June 10th. Will Steve Perry come so close to his former stomping grounds? He'll be six months late for Neal's wedding. But as they say, "Better late than never" .


Here's the video- "It's A Motherf!@#$er, Only Sixteen, Open Arms, Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin'". I'm not familiar with "Only Sixteen" was that a solo song or was it from Journey?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86vD3nsua_s

Okay, now Neal, Jon, and Ross will have to give a statement. Once could be ignored as a fluke, twice is now a thing. Steve Perry joining The Eels tour is officially a thing.





Eels Tour Dates:
05/29 Boston, MA @ Berklee Performance Center
05/30 Philadelphia, PA @ Keswick Theater
05/31 Washington, DC @ Lincoln Theater
06/01 New York, NY @ The Apollo Theater
06/03 Detroit, MI @ Royal Oak Music Theater
06/04 Madison, WI @ Barrymore Theater
06/07 Seattle, WA @ The Moore Theater
06/08 Portland, OR @ Aladdin Theater
06/10 San Francisco, CA @ Palace of Fine Arts Theater
06/11 Los Angeles, CA @ The Orpheum Theater
06/15 Oxford, UK @ New Theater
06/16 Manchester, UK @ Bridgewater Hall
06/17 Glasgow, UK @ Royal Concert Hall
06/18 Cambridge, UK @ Corn Exchange
06/19 Bexhill, UK @ De La Warr Pavilion
06/21 Linz, Austria @ Posthof
06/22 Vienna, Austria @ Konzerthaus
06/24 Berlin, Germany @ Tempodrome
06/25 Amsterdam, Holland @ Het Koninklijk Concertgebouw
06/26 Amsterdam, Holland @ Het Koninklijk Concertgebouw
06/27 Rotterdam, Holland @ Concertgebouw De Doelen
06/28 Eindhoven, Holland @ Muziekgebouw Frits Philips Eindhoven (Naked Song Festival)
06/30 London, UK @ Royal Albert Hall
07/01 Dublin, Ireland @ Olympia
07/02 Dublin, Ireland @ Olympia
07/04 Werchter, Belgium @ Werchter Festival
07/05 Groningen, Holland @ Koninklijke Stadsschouwburg Groningen
07/06 Montreux, Switzerland @ Montreux Jazz Festival
07/07 Zurich, Switzerland @ Kongress Haus
07/08 Luxembourg @ Grand Theatre
07/10 Paris, France @ Days Off Festival
07/11 Toulouse, France @ Bikini
07/12 Barcelona, Spain @ Teatre Grec
07/14 Madrid, Spain @ Circo Price
07/17 Florence, Italy @ Teatro Romano di Fiesole
07/18 Milan, Italy @ Auditorium di Milano
07/20 Antwerp, Belgium @ Rivierenhof
07/21 Antwerp, Belgium @ Rivierenhof
07/22 Hamburg, Germany @ Laeiszhalle
07/24 London, England @ Barbican
07/25 Bristol, England @ Colston Hall
07/26 Gateshead, England @ Sage
07/27 Salisbury, England @ City Hall


http://www.stereogum.com/1683659/qa-e-e ... interview/

SAM COOKE- " ONLY SIXTEEN "

http://youtu.be/xC-Z-YXQV2Q

WENT TO #28 IN 1959