Winds of Freedom

[NealIsGod]

What is the most important thing to ever come out of a woman's mouth?

Answer- Einstiens cock.

That is one of the best jokes ever.

[Andrew]

HOTS' pussy is so big, you could divide it up into West Vagina, South Vagina, and North Vagina and still have some leftover for a catchers mitt.

That's a whole lotta pussy. Damn!!!!!

Maggot metropolis.

Ok, enough thanks. Don't need this kind of discussion here.

[Saint John]

Deano - do you expect the new album to sound different from this song? Just curious...

Absolutely. I KNOW it will.

The Jamestown song is a Jon Cain song with guest Neal Schon on it. File it away folks. It's history.

Sure - I'm finally all talked out about Winds of Freedom....

Just wanted to quickly say....it was a Journey song though, Deano. I mean...you could say that Faithfully was a Cain song with Schon guesting on it....but we all know it's a Journey classic. Why is WOF denied full Journey status?

Why? Because it's an event specific song that was written in 14 minutes through Google searches while Friga watched his Liberace DVD's. It wasn't an organic collaboration by the ENTIRE band. Rather, it was passed around like Aja in a bar.

[AR]

What about Arrival

A very good CD that most outside of the loons liked. A few songs in the right climate with radio play - it would have done very well.

Anyone outside of the hardcore fan base I have ever played it for liked it.

A fucking coaster. That's all it is.

How can you listen to anything Steve Augeri sang on? Seriously. He has tarnished the last 8 years and they will never get over his tenure. To think I actually told people about the new Journey, "He is pretty fuckin good. Dude holds his own." Oh man, I am redfaced over that shit.

PHONY ROCK STAR.

Agree with you about what happened afterwards, but I can still easily play Arrival anytime.

I hate TBF and like Arrival - you prefer the reverse.

The difference is I am totally consistent on my hate for TBF and you have flipped flopped on Arrival. Don't blame you considering that Augeri became a fraud later and I understand. Hell I know they did things to make him sound better on it too - but I still like the record. Don't like Red 13 or Generations though.

[Carlitto H@kk]

....in exactly the same style as a load of other tracks which DID make it into previous albums. So here we are in May 2007 in a state of anticipation about the much-heralded creative renaissance and - ominously - the excuses are starting up again.

Personally Matty, although I thought the tune showed potential, it really didn't
blow me away. But I think it was a style we are used to because it was
thrown together rather quickly and mostly by Cain. I don't think this is
a true representation of what we can expect when Jeff, Neal and Friga
all hunker down at Friga or Jeff's studio and start truly writing together.

[Matthew]

....in exactly the same style as a load of other tracks which DID make it into previous albums. So here we are in May 2007 in a state of anticipation about the much-heralded creative renaissance and - ominously - the excuses are starting up again.

Personally Matty, although I thought the tune showed potential, it really didn't
blow me away. But I think it was a style we are used to because it was
thrown together rather quickly and mostly by Cain. I don't think this is
a true representation of what we can expect when Jeff, Neal and Friga
all hunker down at Friga or Jeff's studio and start truly writing together.

Ah...the boundless optimism of the true fan....

I feel the same way about my football club at the start of each season...this time it'll be different....even though we haven't won a major trophy since 1991.

[Greg]

....in exactly the same style as a load of other tracks which DID make it into previous albums. So here we are in May 2007 in a state of anticipation about the much-heralded creative renaissance and - ominously - the excuses are starting up again.

Personally Matty, although I thought the tune showed potential, it really didn't
blow me away. But I think it was a style we are used to because it was
thrown together rather quickly and mostly by Cain. I don't think this is
a true representation of what we can expect when Jeff, Neal and Friga
all hunker down at Friga or Jeff's studio and start truly writing together.

Ah...the boundless optimism of the true fan....

I feel the same way about my football club at the start of each season...this time it'll be different....even though we haven't won a major trophy since 1991.

Fellow Redskins fan too huh?

[Carlitto H@kk]

....in exactly the same style as a load of other tracks which DID make it into previous albums. So here we are in May 2007 in a state of anticipation about the much-heralded creative renaissance and - ominously - the excuses are starting up again.

Personally Matty, although I thought the tune showed potential, it really didn't
blow me away. But I think it was a style we are used to because it was
thrown together rather quickly and mostly by Cain. I don't think this is
a true representation of what we can expect when Jeff, Neal and Friga
all hunker down at Friga or Jeff's studio and start truly writing together.

Ah...the boundless optimism of the true fan....

I feel the same way about my football club at the start of each season...this time it'll be different....even though we haven't won a major trophy since 1991.

I'm just gonna wait to pass judgement until I hear
a full/true collaboration from the Big 3 with
big studio bells and whistles

[Carlitto H@kk]

Fellow Redskins fan too huh?

Shoot, the only good thing worth noting about
the Redskins is that Joe Gibbs owns the
NASCAR machines driven by Tony Stewart and Denny Hamlin...

Aside from that, the Redskins have nothing to offer

[dcvader]

....in exactly the same style as a load of other tracks which DID make it into previous albums. So here we are in May 2007 in a state of anticipation about the much-heralded creative renaissance and - ominously - the excuses are starting up again.

Personally Matty, although I thought the tune showed potential, it really didn't
blow me away. But I think it was a style we are used to because it was
thrown together rather quickly and mostly by Cain. I don't think this is
a true representation of what we can expect when Jeff, Neal and Friga
all hunker down at Friga or Jeff's studio and start truly writing together.

Ah...the boundless optimism of the true fan....

I feel the same way about my football club at the start of each season...this time it'll be different....even though we haven't won a major trophy since 1991.

Fellow Redskins fan too huh?

Redskins fan here. We have sucked for a long time. I still love 'em though.

[Greg]

....in exactly the same style as a load of other tracks which DID make it into previous albums. So here we are in May 2007 in a state of anticipation about the much-heralded creative renaissance and - ominously - the excuses are starting up again.

Personally Matty, although I thought the tune showed potential, it really didn't
blow me away. But I think it was a style we are used to because it was
thrown together rather quickly and mostly by Cain. I don't think this is
a true representation of what we can expect when Jeff, Neal and Friga
all hunker down at Friga or Jeff's studio and start truly writing together.

Ah...the boundless optimism of the true fan....

I feel the same way about my football club at the start of each season...this time it'll be different....even though we haven't won a major trophy since 1991.

Fellow Redskins fan too huh?

Redskins fan here. We have sucked for a long time. I still love 'em though.

Yep! Don't worry, we'll have our time in the glory again!

[Crazie Scarab]

HOTS' pussy is so big, you could divide it up into West Vagina, South Vagina, and North Vagina and still have some leftover for a catchers mitt.

That's a whole lotta pussy. Damn!!!!!

Maggot metropolis.

Ok, enough thanks. Don't need this kind of discussion here.

Funny shit!

[ohsosoto]

yea, just cleaning her teeth....

I actually meant that he puts words in your mouth...

No again. I am my own man. But, I love that guy. He knows it.

Speaking of words in the mouth?


Joke time.


What is the most important thing to ever come out of a woman's mouth?
























Answer- Einstiens cock.

yea, just cleaning her teeth.

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

I liked the song. it fit the occassion and it was just a nice song.

what is Journey style anyway????? Cookie Duster? Mother Father? Open Arms? They are way too talented and versatile to be confined.

discuss.

[****]

I liked the song. it fit the occassion and it was just a nice song.

what is Journey style anyway????? Cookie Duster? Mother Father? Open Arms? They are way too talented and versatile to be confined.

discuss.

Usually Jeans & a funky shirt..

[AR]

I did not go to the show, and have only heard Winds of Freedom from a poor audio clip on youtube. There is no way I can possibly judge this track. Even if you were in attendence, you have only clearly heard it once.

Seems to me there is a lot of over analyzation of a track that has only been heard once.

[Greg]

I liked the song. it fit the occassion and it was just a nice song.

what is Journey style anyway????? Cookie Duster? Mother Father? Open Arms? They are way too talented and versatile to be confined.

discuss.

That's a good point. I have listened to the song a few times (although with poor audio quality,) and I liked it.

[Ratgirl]

I did not go to the show, and have only heard Winds of Freedom from a poor audio clip on youtube. There is no way I can possibly judge this track. Even if you were in attendence, you have only clearly heard it once.

Seems to me there is a lot of over analyzation of a track that has only been heard once.

Well that clip I sent you should help. The audio is pretty good.

[NoMoreTails]

I'm glad this one has gotten back on topic before Tbone deleted half of another thread....
this song is a ballad, how ground breaking should anyone have expected it to be? At least lyrically the subject matter is different than the "I'm so happy we're together" of WYLAW through Gens and the "I'm so sad we're apart" of the 80s. WAFTE is the only other with a different theme that comes to mind.

[Red13JoePa]

What about Arrival, Red 13 and Generations?

What are those?

The result of Friga firing Perry.

Thanks for the clarification.

Uh, Dopes, do you HONESTLY think if that didn't happen that Perry would've recorded another damn NOTE or sang ONE live verse with Journey? He was TOTALLY ready to pull a fucking 1987 again on them.

You'd STILL be waiting on the booking of the first show of the TBF tour. Christ.

[Matthew]

You and NMT have a Joey Delight/Journeytroll double act going, don't you Red? Are you by any chance the same person?

[Red13JoePa]

Nice answer, matt.

He'd've left them in the lerch if Schon/Cain didn't call the blufff again and you loons know it.


And it's "soccer" not "football" you guys watch.

[Matthew]

Nice answer, matt.

He'd've left them in the lerch if Schon/Cain didn't call the blufff again and you loons know it.


And it's "soccer" not "football" you guys watch.

Hey Red...what's got into you lately?

I agree with you!

Yes, Perry would probably have called it a day regardless of Cain firing him. We'll never know for sure and Cain certainly closed the door forever - but it's highly unlikely.


P>S. We've been calling it football for over a century. We GAVE you the damn word like we did the entire language you speak.

[Rockindeano]

You and NMT have a Joey Delight/Journeytroll double act going, don't you Red? Are you by any chance the same person?

Speaking of double personalities....You remind me alot of Richard Simmons.

[Matthew]

You and NMT have a Joey Delight/Journeytroll double act going, don't you Red? Are you by any chance the same person?

Speaking of double personalities....You remind me alot of Richard Simmons.

I just looked that guy up on Google...thanks a lot Deano.

[Red13JoePa]

Nice answer, matt.

He'd've left them in the lerch if Schon/Cain didn't call the blufff again and you loons know it.


And it's "soccer" not "football" you guys watch.

Hey Red...what's got into you lately?

I agree with you that Perry would have called it a day regardless of Cain firing him. We'll never know for sure and Cain certainly closed the door forever - but it's highly unlikely.


P>S. We've been calling it football for over a century. We GAVE you the damn word like we did the entire language you speak.

"Called it a day."

Would he have TOLD them he was calling it a day or just unofficially mothball Journey again for as long as he felt like it?

Me? What's gotten into YOU? NoMoreTails clearly gets under your skin to the point now that you accuse both of us, however jokingly, of being the same person ala JR, without a SHRED of prior evidence. There are MOUNDS of evidence about JR
That, my perry spin-doctoring friend, is NOT cool.

[Ratgirl]

You and NMT have a Joey Delight/Journeytroll double act going, don't you Red? Are you by any chance the same person?

Speaking of double personalities....You remind me alot of Richard Simmons.

I just looked that guy up on Google...thanks a lot Deano.

LOL!!! If you only knew....

[Deb]

What about Arrival, Red 13 and Generations?

What are those?

The result of Friga firing Perry.

Thanks for the clarification.

Uh, Dopes, do you HONESTLY think if that didn't happen that Perry would've recorded another damn NOTE or sang ONE live verse with Journey? He was TOTALLY ready to pull a fucking 1987 again on them.

You'd STILL be waiting on the booking of the first show of the TBF tour. Christ.

LOL Red, allow me to explain what a winky is.......... = not serious (ie., joking)

I'm perfectly happy with Jeff fronting Journey right now.

[NoMoreTails]

You and NMT have a Joey Delight/Journeytroll double act going, don't you Red? Are you by any chance the same person?

Are you sure you're not Properry or HOTS, you fawn over Perry almost as much...find it hard to believe that two Journey fans thought Perry was a little to sugary sweet for their tastes...guess what, Neal is another who wanted a more ballsy rock singer.

[Matthew]

Nice answer, matt.

He'd've left them in the lerch if Schon/Cain didn't call the blufff again and you loons know it.


And it's "soccer" not "football" you guys watch.

Hey Red...what's got into you lately?

I agree with you that Perry would have called it a day regardless of Cain firing him. We'll never know for sure and Cain certainly closed the door forever - but it's highly unlikely.


P>S. We've been calling it football for over a century. We GAVE you the damn word like we did the entire language you speak.

"Called it a day."

Would he have TOLD them he was calling it a day or just unofficially mothball Journey again for as long as he felt like it?

Me? What's gotten into YOU? NoMoreTails clearly gets under your skin to the point now that you accuse both of us, however jokingly, of being the same person ala JR, without a SHRED of prior evidence. There are MOUNDS of evidence about JR
That, my perry spin-doctoring friend, is NOT cool.

Talk about cracking open a walnut with a sledgehammer...or whatever the expression is. Lighten up, for fuck's sake.

As for Perry....I have no idea. Maybe he would have told them...or maybe it would have been the mothball option. Who knows?