Revelation re-enters at #63 on Billboard's Top 200

Voted Worlds #1 Most Loonatic Fanbase

Moderator: Andrew

Postby Jana » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:37 pm

Author2 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Author2 wrote:Oh, according to SJ he did. Neal's band? Why wasn't Neal and Jon (their longtime bandmates) men enough to say no, especially Neal when it came to Herbie and Valory - together from the beginning? After all Herbie referred to him as a son, huh? Kicked old dad right under the bus without much thought, huh? Check out Steve, Neal and Jon's promotional tour for ROR, Neal must have been mighty happy for I think he stuck his fingers in ears and licked out tongue? So funny. Round and round we go!


Perry had them over a barrell and he knew it. It was either Steve's way or he'd pout and not tour. Essentially, they had to do what he wanted ... or cut off their noses to spite their faces. Neal, Jon and Hebie all voiced opposition but, in the end, they had to do what was needed to be done to keep the band alive. And Herbie saw to it that Ross and Steve got paid...which was pretty cool.


He had toured enough 78-83 without letup. You either stand for something or fall for anything, huh. Neal's band? Why not order Steve Perry to tour or fire him or take a knife to those noses? Sorry, in my book it would have died before I kicked old dad under the bus. Judging from appearances they did not voice opinions too loudly. Anyway, I read in a Herbie interview that he made sure Ross and Steve got paid then he went on to say that they might not remember it. Come on, how could they forget "his' being the one doing that if he did? Do you honestly think Steve Perry would have tried to stop that? After all, the guys were under contract, I wouldn't think getting fired from ROR meant terminating that contract. That would have been a breach of contract - would you say? Way I see it, maybe they got a double dose - got paid then could pursue their other interest?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76QOaMS_q8o :lol:
Jana
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 8227
Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:21 pm
Location: Anticipating

Postby Author2 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:45 pm

Escape81 wrote:
Author2 wrote:Oh, according to SJ he did. Neal's band? Why wasn't Neal and Jon (their longtime bandmates) men enough to say no, especially Neal when it came to Herbie and Valory - together from the beginning? After all Herbie referred to him as a son, huh? Kicked old dad right under the bus without much thought, huh? Check out Steve, Neal and Jon's promotional tour for ROR, Neal must have been mighty happy for I think he stuck his fingers in ears and licked out tongue? So funny. Round and round we go!


Yeah..... blaming the world for not preventing the Holocaust doesn't absolve Hitler. faulty logic.... Steve P. made a decision he felt was in the band's best interest. Was it? I dont think so.... I love ROR for his vocals, but everything else is subpar compared to their previous and subsequent material..... the sound suffers with the absence of Ross and SS. Neal and Jonathan didn't stop Steve because they gave him the reins. Was it a mistake? Sure. But if you're trying to heap the blame on them, sorry.... not good enough.



Read above and most of SJ's post whereas blame is constantly heaped on Steve Perry. Just trying to level the playing field. SJ stated that Steve Perry should have put down his foot about the excessive touring so I would say others should have put their feet down also about others things if they did not approve, works both ways, huh? Absolved they were not for it was within their power to do so if they were so troubled by the decision, but the right and proper thing sometimes or for the most part comes with considerable cost. They did not want to pay the price so I guess old dad was kicked under the bus. I believe they are still with the same management company now so who knows maybe Neal and Jon although not vocally acquiesing to the decision, but glad? ROR is my favorite, Infinity to Captured and Trial by Fire, aside from his solo.

I believe Steve Perry had some hold on the reins with what you refer to as "previous" to ROR above par material?
Author2
Ol' 78
 
Posts: 157
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:14 pm

Postby Author2 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:47 pm

Jana wrote:
Author2 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Author2 wrote:Oh, according to SJ he did. Neal's band? Why wasn't Neal and Jon (their longtime bandmates) men enough to say no, especially Neal when it came to Herbie and Valory - together from the beginning? After all Herbie referred to him as a son, huh? Kicked old dad right under the bus without much thought, huh? Check out Steve, Neal and Jon's promotional tour for ROR, Neal must have been mighty happy for I think he stuck his fingers in ears and licked out tongue? So funny. Round and round we go!


Perry had them over a barrell and he knew it. It was either Steve's way or he'd pout and not tour. Essentially, they had to do what he wanted ... or cut off their noses to spite their faces. Neal, Jon and Hebie all voiced opposition but, in the end, they had to do what was needed to be done to keep the band alive. And Herbie saw to it that Ross and Steve got paid...which was pretty cool.


He had toured enough 78-83 without letup. You either stand for something or fall for anything, huh. Neal's band? Why not order Steve Perry to tour or fire him or take a knife to those noses? Sorry, in my book it would have died before I kicked old dad under the bus. Judging from appearances they did not voice opinions too loudly. Anyway, I read in a Herbie interview that he made sure Ross and Steve got paid then he went on to say that they might not remember it. Come on, how could they forget "his' being the one doing that if he did? Do you honestly think Steve Perry would have tried to stop that? After all, the guys were under contract, I wouldn't think getting fired from ROR meant terminating that contract. That would have been a breach of contract - would you say? Way I see it, maybe they got a double dose - got paid then could pursue their other interest?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76QOaMS_q8o :lol:



Thank you and have a great day!
Author2
Ol' 78
 
Posts: 157
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:14 pm

Postby Jana » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:50 pm

You guys kept talking about cut off their noses, and it reminded me of that song. :lol:
Jana
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 8227
Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:21 pm
Location: Anticipating

Previous

Return to Journey

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 32 guests