Eclipse - Your Reviews

[Melissa]

Let me enlighten you that NONE of those Perry songs you mentioned were HEAVY guitar oriented songs
Perry's voice on Eclipse would be HORRIBLE.

Yep, lol. But like I said, truly happy for those who love ECL-one-P-fifty-three

Perhaps your ears could use some enlightenment? I'm Cryin' and One More are pretty darn guitar heavy. And Perry's shrieking on Lay It Down makes the dogs in my neighborhood howl in pain...

My ears are awesome, thanks. Those may be a little guitar heavy for the average radio Journey fan, but otherwise I'd hardly consider either "heavy" and the guitars on some songs on Eclipse blow both of those right out of the water.

[Melissa]

And no, Eclipse does not qualify as a WIC purchase.

This is funny as hell. I bet it might with an EBT card though.

[Don]

It's not a perfect record as the score of 100% would imply. Even if I overlook them raiding Neal Pert's lyric bag there just aren't 12 great songs on this album. While stellar, the production can't make songs like City Of Hope and Human Feel better than they actually are. I get it that the grade here is on a curve but just like WET, the good stuff isn't so immense as to drown out the lesser tracks.

[WykkedSensation]

100%??? Absolutely ludicrous. This is an ok release at best. A 100 rating would mean that EVERY SINGLE SONG is an absolute classic. Errrrm i don't think so. Ridiculous rating

[steveo777]

100%??? Absolutely ludicrous. This is an ok release at best. A 100 rating would mean that EVERY SINGLE SONG is an absolute classic. Errrrm i don't think so. Ridiculous rating

Then get the fuck off of our bus! LOL

The audacity of people to have opinions....gasp!

[S2M]

There ARE a few fillers on W.E.T.
But there aren't any on Forevermore

I think Drew trying his darndest to get back to good graces with the Journey camp....

[steveo777]

There ARE a few fillers on W.E.T.
But there aren't any on Forevermore

I think Drew trying his darndest to get back to good graces with the Journey camp....

We've been telling you you need that for forever.

[Behshad]

100%??? Absolutely ludicrous. This is an ok release at best. A 100 rating would mean that EVERY SINGLE SONG is an absolute classic. Errrrm i don't think so. Ridiculous rating

Then get the fuck off of our bus! LOL

The audacity of people to have opinions....gasp!

No one is messing with you and your {short} bus, stay calm Mongo and carry on lickin the window

[WykkedSensation]

100%??? Absolutely ludicrous. This is an ok release at best. A 100 rating would mean that EVERY SINGLE SONG is an absolute classic. Errrrm i don't think so. Ridiculous rating

Then get the fuck off of our bus! LOL

The audacity of people to have opinions....gasp!

[Behshad]

There ARE a few fillers on W.E.T.
But there aren't any on Forevermore

I think Drew trying his darndest to get back to good graces with the Journey camp....

W.E.T does have few fillers, but so does Forevermore Both much better than Eclipse when it comes to matching vocals to the music

[Greg]

100%??? Absolutely ludicrous. This is an ok release at best. A 100 rating would mean that EVERY SINGLE SONG is an absolute classic. Errrrm i don't think so. Ridiculous rating

Then get the fuck off of our bus! LOL

The audacity of people to have opinions....gasp!

No one is messing with you and your {short} bus, stay calm Mongo and carry on lickin the window

[portland]

There ARE a few fillers on W.E.T.
But there aren't any on Forevermore

I think Drew trying his darndest to get back to good graces with the Journey camp....

Agreed, the title track from Forevermore is becoming one of my favorite songs in a very long time. I can listen to the CD
and not have the urge to skip one song.

Eclipse is much better than Revelation.....I really like about 1/2 of the songs. It's nice to hear AP in his own voice there is no
question that he is a really talented guy.


I would have reversed the scores on these two.

[S2M]

Let's head over to the Noticeboard, and see what the euros and elitists think about Eclipse, and Drew's review....

[Melissa]

On 2nd listen, I like Tantra, though odd. It turns some weird little corners all through, but I like that.

[Majestic]

How is Arnel's accent this one? It drove me insane on Revelation, couldn't understand half the lyrics.

If Arnel's accent drove you nuts on Revelation, then you may be listening to the wrong music genre in general. I recommend Julie Andrews, or Helen Reddy. Absolutely perfect diction on every note, you'd dig it.

[Majestic]

I'm not too thrilled with that cardboard thingie Wal-Mart has the disc packed in. I'm going to hit up Little Tokyo after the Jap release date and see if the import version has a more attractive package. I don't mind paying the extra 20 bucks for a prettier box. It's only once every few years anyway. If it's cool enough I'll even post pics, whenever that may be.

I'm with ya, Don, I totally hate the sound of card board. Better go for the CD, vinyl, or high bitrate Mp3.

[Majestic]

If you find a better package, would love to see pics.

Umm...that's what she said?

[Majestic]

Hey, I'm digging this record for the most part but to the people that see ROR as Perry's album (including myself), Eclipse can be painted with the same brush concerning one member dominating a release because Neal has his stamp all over this puppy.

I'm not saying Arnel doesn't have the ability but he is put in check on a lot of the tunes here, the exception being Tantra where he gets to have a lot of oohs and aahs in the latter part of the song.
I was just expecting him to go a bit wild like Coverdale and other hard rock singers this time around.

I doubt Arnel has that in him. He's not that kind of singer. Arnel is more a crooner, which reminds me of the comments Rollie made about Perry joining the band on behind the music. I think Arnel sounds fantastic on this album, and wouldn't want him doing the Coverdale thing. Not that it isn't cool, it is! But it's not how Journey does things.

[Don]

Will this score be like the Madden curse? Has any album Andrew rated 100% ever hit platinum, or even gold?

[Michigan Girl]

How is Arnel's accent this one? It drove me insane on Revelation, couldn't understand half the lyrics.

If Arnel's accent drove you nuts on Revelation, then you may be listening to the wrong music genre in general. I recommend Julie Andrews, or Helen Reddy. Absolutely perfect diction on every note, you'd dig it.

Not true ...not true at all!! *That eyerolly thing that I hate*

[Majestic]

How is Arnel's accent this one? It drove me insane on Revelation, couldn't understand half the lyrics.

If Arnel's accent drove you nuts on Revelation, then you may be listening to the wrong music genre in general. I recommend Julie Andrews, or Helen Reddy. Absolutely perfect diction on every note, you'd dig it.

Not true ...not true at all!! *That eyerolly thing that I hate*

Not true??? I dare you to find a single diction error in any song those ladies sang!

[Don]

MR and my computer do not get along at all today. I'll have terminate the IT department if this keeps up.

[brywool]

How is Arnel's accent this one? It drove me insane on Revelation, couldn't understand half the lyrics.

If Arnel's accent drove you nuts on Revelation, then you may be listening to the wrong music genre in general. I recommend Julie Andrews, or Helen Reddy. Absolutely perfect diction on every note, you'd dig it.

+1

I keep reading people complaining about the accent. I hear it when he speaks, I do not hear it on Revelation.
I've heard it on live recordings, but most of those were either pre-Journey or very early Journey.

[Michigan Girl]

How is Arnel's accent this one? It drove me insane on Revelation, couldn't understand half the lyrics.

If Arnel's accent drove you nuts on Revelation, then you may be listening to the wrong music genre in general. I recommend Julie Andrews, or Helen Reddy. Absolutely perfect diction on every note, you'd dig it.

Not true ...not true at all!! *That eyerolly thing that I hate*

Not true??? I dare you to find a single diction error in any song those ladies sang!

There is a whole slew/variety of RnR and pop which does not contain
asian diction/dialect ...one does
not have to revert to Mary Poppins ... ebake is hoping Eclipse is better

[Majestic]

MR and my computer do not get along at all today. I'll have terminate the IT department if this keeps up.

Don't terminate them, better just send them out to the Wal Marts before Rip has bought all the Eclipse albums in America. Anyway I think the MR server is having a problem now, so maybe let them off with only a stern warning.

[Majestic]

How is Arnel's accent this one? It drove me insane on Revelation, couldn't understand half the lyrics.

If Arnel's accent drove you nuts on Revelation, then you may be listening to the wrong music genre in general. I recommend Julie Andrews, or Helen Reddy. Absolutely perfect diction on every note, you'd dig it.

Not true ...not true at all!! *That eyerolly thing that I hate*

Not true??? I dare you to find a single diction error in any song those ladies sang!

There is a whole slew/variety of RnR and pop which does not contain
asian diction/dialect ...one does
not have to revert to Mary Poppins ... ebake is hoping Eclipse is better

Better 'an Mary Poppins? Precocious!!!

[Michigan Girl]

I'm not getting the comment of Arnel's voice not being up to the heaviness of the tracks.

You don't have to "get" my opinion. I don't "get" yours either, lol. Just is what it is. Kind of like how some around here don't think Deen sounds powerful enough on Mother, Father yet he IS a good singer. I didn't accuse Arnel's voice as being "thin" at all. He has a beautiful voice. But as a veteran hard rock listener, and this having heavier guitars along the hard rock line, there are places where that beautiful and hard just don't match up to me to being that glittery magic some of you are doing back flips about. But I'm happy for those of you who like it that much.

lol@ Melly all through this thread!! I wish someone would throw their perfect little ears
in a box and send them around the world to all the people who do not hear as perfectly/the exact same
as they...and then we could all feel the same joy~together~as one~before the world ends~on the day
of Bry's Journey experience!! I would like to cuss here!!

[YoungJRNY]

Everyone hears different, that's the beauty of music and the personal need your certain taste's take you through the emotion of a song. It's good that people hear differently, that means people are opening up their ears and recognizing, no matter if one didn't like it or the other gave it a 100% or not. Everyone KNOWS this is Neal's record, it was pretty much admitted so speaking from a musician standpoint, it sounds like this CD earned the 100% while Arnel's vocals seemed to be way above average but falls short of Neal's highest peak performance. Can't be blamed, I have a feeling this is going to be a SOLID CD that every fan of Journey should enjoy and be proud of, especially the scrutiny the band has gone through the last couple years. So far, so good. People are reviewing without the chronic bitching throughout all 12 tracks, which is a step in the rightest of directions, haha.

[Jana]

Hey, I'm digging this record for the most part but to the people that see ROR as Perry's album (including myself), Eclipse can be painted with the same brush concerning one member dominating a release because Neal has his stamp all over this puppy.

I'm not saying Arnel doesn't have the ability but he is put in check on a lot of the tunes here, the exception being Tantra where he gets to have a lot of oohs and aahs in the latter part of the song.
I was just expecting him to go a bit wild like Coverdale and other hard rock singers this time around.

I doubt Arnel has that in him. He's not that kind of singer. Arnel is more a crooner, which reminds me of the comments Rollie made about Perry joining the band on behind the music. I think Arnel sounds fantastic on this album, and wouldn't want him doing the Coverdale thing. Not that it isn't cool, it is! But it's not how Journey does things.

I agree. Arnel sounds fantastic. My fear when they said it was hard rock was, one, Arnel's Journeyesque pure tenor vocals wouldn't appear on the album, and they're there and stunning with also his huskier vocals. And, two, I thought Neal might just shred, but his playing is so melodic. Neal is still my hero.

Love this album. And Chain of Love is as great as I imagined.

[Don]

Hey, I'm digging this record for the most part but to the people that see ROR as Perry's album (including myself), Eclipse can be painted with the same brush concerning one member dominating a release because Neal has his stamp all over this puppy.

I'm not saying Arnel doesn't have the ability but he is put in check on a lot of the tunes here, the exception being Tantra where he gets to have a lot of oohs and aahs in the latter part of the song.
I was just expecting him to go a bit wild like Coverdale and other hard rock singers this time around.

I doubt Arnel has that in him. He's not that kind of singer. Arnel is more a crooner, which reminds me of the comments Rollie made about Perry joining the band on behind the music. I think Arnel sounds fantastic on this album, and wouldn't want him doing the Coverdale thing. Not that it isn't cool, it is! But it's not how Journey does things.

I agree. Arnel sounds fantastic. My fear when they said it was hard rock was, one, Arnel's Journeyesque pure tenor vocals wouldn't appear on the album, and they're there and stunning with also his huskier vocals. And, two, I thought Neal might just shred, but his playing is so melodic. Neal is still my hero.

Love this album. And Chain of Love is as great as I imagined.

Chain Of Love is the winner for a lot of people. I know Journey were saving Tantra to wow everyone later but they blew their wad by letting COL hit youtube, it's a great cut.