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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:39 pm

dude ,, its 3:30am , im wiped up,, ur just getting up!!! im dying....
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Postby McNeil » Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:42 pm

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LarryFromNextDoor wrote:
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bufordt9 wrote:... Please, go away.!!!! :evil:
Wishfull thinking... he never goes away for too long -


Who is this guy anyway!? :twisted:


your worst nightmare...... mwwwwwaaahhhh mmwwwaaahhhhh

Just someone who isnt buying into the "over -hype" ..well not until I hear something that tells me this guy is special...

All I hear is the same as before... lots of pre recorded backing vocals, and Deen siinging his balls off in the higher parts ???? to cover up the weakness of the lead singer in those spots.

who the fuck are you??


for cryin out loud neil , they are just 2 folks trying to enjoy music,, simple


Larry..Im tring to project a little bit of balance here!!

Obviously.. no one here is allowed to take any other opinion than JSS and Journey are now the absolute "dogs bollocks"

For me..Journey are stepping down, with every successive vocalist.

Lets get this straight once and for all...its just my opinion..no more than that. Only I can change it.... JSS is a great singer...but not for Journey..dont care if he grew up shitting Journey songs into the potty. with pics of Perry all over his nursery.... its my opinion...as of now... sorry

neil , your opinion is as important as any, but ok , lets take this as a new start to something non related.... someone needs to start a french fry thread,,,, oh ,,oh , that s been done,, maybe something else ,, just for fun,, did nt u have some cool stuff to put up for us,, ??


ah Larry... you are an expert in "diversion" tactics... lol

Well..I have a couple of Journey Karaoke back tracks, that didnt appear a few days ago... inc "Faithfully" and "The Girl Cant Help It"

Will put em up on yousendit as soon as

Hope yr well Larry.... take it easy man
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Postby A Fire Inside » Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:47 pm

Aaron wrote:This is same show that you were saying is a good as Perry, right? Dude, how much beer did you have? I still don't get it, I've listened to all of the cuts a few times and they still suck. My 10 year old son was laughing as I was listening to them. He is a big Journey fan and he doesn't get it either. Deen kicks ass at 1:06 which is the highlight of Dead or Alive. Dude, I'm taking you up on your guarantee, it sucked. JSS is a cool MOFO but that shit sounds nothing like Journey. I stand by I've said since seeing them in Indy.

As I see it they have the following options:

1. Get someone in that can cover the sound

2. Bring Deen from behind the drum kit to sing

3. Hang it up and call it a day

4. Have two singers, one to cover the classic stuff and JSS to go forward

5. Call it what it is, Soul SirkUS, and go forward in a new direction

6. Run it into the ground in its current incarnation.

The bottom line, that is not Journey.

100% agreed! I do not get what you all are hearing! Jeff must have missed a few of us when he cast his love spell. He is ok, but I'm not stunned and I certainly do not think this remotely matches up to stuff they did with Perry.

Take off the rose-colored JSS glasses, people...
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Postby A Fire Inside » Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:52 pm

AR wrote:I just think it showed major BALLS for these to be posted from ONE night. What a fan friendly thing to do! I am amazed.

Oh, wow, someone posted a rare bootleg! He's a hero! It takes such balls to upload things to the Internet!
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Postby A Fire Inside » Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:54 pm

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Tapegate aside, I actually prefer SA's voice.

Wish he could still sing. He was fine. He hasn't been able to do it for quite some time. Now you have a singer who grew up on the material and cares about it. Believe it!

I prefer SA as well, and I hope his voice recovers and he does Tall Stories or something... I'd be there in a heartbeat... I'm more than slightly annoyed that I paid to see him this year and never got the chance.
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Postby A Fire Inside » Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:56 pm

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Fine - but SA wasn't the one who created the distinctive or 'signature' Journey vocal sound. He tried to recreate that sound. And JSS doesn't.

My opinion is that SA replicated it decently for a couple of years. Unfortunately he didn't know when to step down. JSS can capture the vibe of the past but be his own man and try to move forward.

That's why most Perry fans respect JSS....

Are Perry fans aware that Augeri was hired TO SOUND LIKE PERRY? He just did his goddamn job.
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Postby Barb » Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:29 pm

These are GREAT!! Thanks Dean! Please post DSB if you have it! :D
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Postby Enigma869 » Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:25 pm

McNeil wrote:
LarryFromNextDoor wrote:
McNeil wrote:
bufordt9 wrote:
journeygal wrote:
bufordt9 wrote:... Please, go away.!!!! :evil:
Wishfull thinking... he never goes away for too long -


Who is this guy anyway!? :twisted:


your worst nightmare...... mwwwwwaaahhhh mmwwwaaahhhhh

Just someone who isnt buying into the "over -hype" ..well not until I hear something that tells me this guy is special...

All I hear is the same as before... lots of pre recorded backing vocals, and Deen siinging his balls off in the higher parts ???? to cover up the weakness of the lead singer in those spots.

who the fuck are you??


for cryin out loud neil , they are just 2 folks trying to enjoy music,, simple


Larry..Im tring to project a little bit of balance here!!

Obviously.. no one here is allowed to take any other opinion than JSS and Journey are now the absolute "dogs bollocks"

For me..Journey are stepping down, with every successive vocalist.

Lets get this straight once and for all...its just my opinion..no more than that. Only I can change it.... JSS is a great singer...but not for Journey..dont care if he grew up shitting Journey songs into the potty. with pics of Perry all over his nursery.... its my opinion...as of now... sorry.. and I dont believe for a minute that my opinion is gon spoil absolutely anyones enjoyment of the band or its music.... and why should it... you all have my permission to keep on enjoying the music.... lol :wink:

I dont wanna change anyones opinion...Im just giving my own... can people get that into their heads ... please!!

I take it that "alternative" opinions are still allowed here?? ..and I cerainly wouldnt allow anyone elses opinion to spoil my enjoyment of anything!



I say "balance" should ALWAYS be welcomed and encouraged! For the record, I'm someone who is still on the fence about JSS being a permanent member of Journey. I think the guy is awesome and his attitude is SUPERB! I mean how can you not like a guy who comes onto this site and tells a fan where to go and how to get there for slamming the guy's abilities as a vocalist? That said, I don't know that Jeff can sing classic Journey material the way it's supposed to sound (i.e. sounding like Journey). I'm reserving my judgement until I hear a new CD or DVD from JSS with Journey, because I think internet boots aren't really a fair judgement as to whether someone is good, bad or ugly! As always, time will tell us whether or not this is going to work.

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Postby AR » Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:32 pm

I look at things this way. A LOT of people slammed Augeri for being a Perry clone. JSS is not that at all. Outstanding vocalist with his own style. Think of this like Van Halen going from Roth to Hagar. Only VH started ignoring their back catalog. No worries with Journey, as the hits will still be played.

Steve Perry was the best, but is retired. Augeri did well for awhile, but can't do it anymore. Now you have an incredibly talented singer, bringing new life to the material. Tired moldy oldies like LTS and Lights have a new energy to them. Fucking Edge of the Blade just became my favorite song, and I never used to give it a second thought. :D

Dissenting opinions are fine, I'm just casting my vote towards this version of Journey with a harder edge. They kicked Def Leppard's ass last weekend. Might as well have had tumbleweeds blowing across the stage during their set. That's something you couldn't say at the beginning of the tour with Augeri struggling like he was.
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Postby JrnyScarab » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:49 am

AR wrote:I look at things this way. A LOT of people slammed Augeri for being a Perry clone. JSS is not that at all. Outstanding vocalist with his own style. Think of this like Van Halen going from Roth to Hagar. Only VH started ignoring their back catalog. No worries with Journey, as the hits will still be played.

Steve Perry was the best, but is retired. Augeri did well for awhile, but can't do it anymore. Now you have an incredibly talented singer, bringing new life to the material. Tired moldy oldies like LTS and Lights have a new energy to them. Fucking Edge of the Blade just became my favorite song, and I never used to give it a second thought. :D

Dissenting opinions are fine, I'm just casting my vote towards this version of Journey with a harder edge. They kicked Def Leppard's ass last weekend. Might as well have had tumbleweeds blowing across the stage during their set. That's something you couldn't say at the beginning of the tour with Augeri struggling like he was.


You are so right AR! Couldn't have said it better myself. Those oldies were getting tired sounding the last few times I saw them. Now they are crazy on FIRE. By the way, How was Van Halen able to ignore their past catalog while drawing in the crowds with mostly new stuff? That was quite a feat. Wish Journey could do that with JSS.
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Postby mystichealer » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:51 am

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AR wrote:I look at things this way. A LOT of people slammed Augeri for being a Perry clone. JSS is not that at all. Outstanding vocalist with his own style. Think of this like Van Halen going from Roth to Hagar. Only VH started ignoring their back catalog. No worries with Journey, as the hits will still be played.

Steve Perry was the best, but is retired. Augeri did well for awhile, but can't do it anymore. Now you have an incredibly talented singer, bringing new life to the material. Tired moldy oldies like LTS and Lights have a new energy to them. Fucking Edge of the Blade just became my favorite song, and I never used to give it a second thought. :D

Dissenting opinions are fine, I'm just casting my vote towards this version of Journey with a harder edge. They kicked Def Leppard's ass last weekend. Might as well have had tumbleweeds blowing across the stage during their set. That's something you couldn't say at the beginning of the tour with Augeri struggling like he was.


You are so right AR! Couldn't have said it better myself. Those oldies were getting tired sounding the last few times I saw them. Now they are crazy on FIRE. By the way, How was Van Halen able to ignore their past catalog while drawing in the crowds with mostly new stuff? That was quite a feat. Wish Journey could do that with JSS.



Journey Leave out most of the oldies? You have gotta be fuckin jokin. They would be playing to a couple of hundred people.
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Postby JrnyScarab » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:57 am

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Journey Leave out most of the oldies? You have gotta be fuckin jokin. They would be playing to a couple of hundred people.


Sorry, didn't mean to say leave out ALL the oldies. Just would like to see some new music become "Th Oldies". :wink:

That IS wishful thinking. Just thought it was amazing that VH got away with it.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:58 am

i just wanted to add my BIG thank you to putting these tunes up!!!! very cool to have this morning , almost TOO rockin for the morning :lol: ,,neal has changed his guitar tone,, bit more gritty, and is he getting his moneys worth out of that wham bar, or what!! hes on fire from a guitar point of view,, each time i hear jss he sounds so much smoother,, i GET it,, i love all 4 or so singing versions of journey ,, and im on board with this one!! my old school metal buds cant believe they are hearing jss sing this many journey songs.. they are floored!! thanks DEANO for your work in posting these and AR for that very cool contribution, and NIG for reposting what i couldnt get !! :evil: , got them now,, these sounded very good and HEAVY... i see where some will not like it as much,, its quite the change from the past....
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Postby JrnyScarab » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:10 am

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:neal has changed his guitar tone,, bit more gritty, and is he getting his moneys worth out of that wham bar, or what!! hes on fire from a guitar point of view,, each time i hear jss he sounds so much smoother


Yup. His tone is definitely more aggressive. A good friend of mine who has seen Journey with us a bunch of times always says that Neal always plays the same fast stuff and doesn't slow down enough. The problem was that when we saw them live, the fast stuff was always sounding like mush lost in the mix. This year you can clearly hear the individual notes both on the boots and in person. A change for the better if you ask me.
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Postby Granny » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:15 am

mystichealer wrote:
JrnyScarab wrote:
AR wrote:I look at things this way. A LOT of people slammed Augeri for being a Perry clone. JSS is not that at all. Outstanding vocalist with his own style. Think of this like Van Halen going from Roth to Hagar. Only VH started ignoring their back catalog. No worries with Journey, as the hits will still be played.

Steve Perry was the best, but is retired. Augeri did well for awhile, but can't do it anymore. Now you have an incredibly talented singer, bringing new life to the material. Tired moldy oldies like LTS and Lights have a new energy to them. Fucking Edge of the Blade just became my favorite song, and I never used to give it a second thought. :D

Dissenting opinions are fine, I'm just casting my vote towards this version of Journey with a harder edge. They kicked Def Leppard's ass last weekend. Might as well have had tumbleweeds blowing across the stage during their set. That's something you couldn't say at the beginning of the tour with Augeri struggling like he was.


You are so right AR! Couldn't have said it better myself. Those oldies were getting tired sounding the last few times I saw them. Now they are crazy on FIRE. By the way, How was Van Halen able to ignore their past catalog while drawing in the crowds with mostly new stuff? That was quite a feat. Wish Journey could do that with JSS.



Journey Leave out most of the oldies? You have gotta be fuckin jokin. They would be playing to a couple of hundred people.


Can't leave the oldies out. :roll: Theyneed to be there. New stuff would be wonderful too, but need and want to hear what made them famous. :) :) :) Can't wait to see themin Nov. with the new line-up. Just my opinion.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:18 am

voice wrote:Did Deen sing? Would like to hear how he did. The last boot I heard, he was sounding a little rough.


He sounded fine.
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Postby Rock Fn » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:19 am

JrnyScarab wrote:
LarryFromNextDoor wrote:neal has changed his guitar tone,, bit more gritty, and is he getting his moneys worth out of that wham bar, or what!! hes on fire from a guitar point of view,, each time i hear jss he sounds so much smoother


Yup. His tone is definitely more aggressive. A good friend of mine who has seen Journey with us a bunch of times always says that Neal always plays the same fast stuff and doesn't slow down enough. The problem was that when we saw them live, the fast stuff was always sounding like mush lost in the mix. This year you can clearly hear the individual notes both on the boots and in person. A change for the better if you ask me.


I'm wondering if It's his new amps. They sound much better.
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Postby JrnyScarab » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:24 am

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JrnyScarab wrote:
LarryFromNextDoor wrote:neal has changed his guitar tone,, bit more gritty, and is he getting his moneys worth out of that wham bar, or what!! hes on fire from a guitar point of view,, each time i hear jss he sounds so much smoother


Yup. His tone is definitely more aggressive. A good friend of mine who has seen Journey with us a bunch of times always says that Neal always plays the same fast stuff and doesn't slow down enough. The problem was that when we saw them live, the fast stuff was always sounding like mush lost in the mix. This year you can clearly hear the individual notes both on the boots and in person. A change for the better if you ask me.


I'm wondering if It's his new amps. They sound much better.


Probably. What's he using now? Hiwatts? If so, those amps really cut through. Alex Lifeson of RUSH used to use them and they gave him a real powerful, punchy sound that was clearly defined.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:46 am

JrnyScarab wrote:
LarryFromNextDoor wrote:neal has changed his guitar tone,, bit more gritty, and is he getting his moneys worth out of that wham bar, or what!! hes on fire from a guitar point of view,, each time i hear jss he sounds so much smoother


Yup. His tone is definitely more aggressive. A good friend of mine who has seen Journey with us a bunch of times always says that Neal always plays the same fast stuff and doesn't slow down enough. The problem was that when we saw them live, the fast stuff was always sounding like mush lost in the mix. This year you can clearly hear the individual notes both on the boots and in person. A change for the better if you ask me.


i agree with your friend, there was a time that neal seemed to play the same fast licks over and over,, i think a good example is off of TBF- you are the woman,, that solo,, ive heard him play before,, still cool and way beyond great,, hes doing some strange stuff on these 5 songs,,, far removed from the original recordings,, i like it big time....
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:49 am

Ok, one more.

Anyway You Want It.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TAI2XLMG

During the guitar melody, can anyone hear the song from Top Gun that stole the sound from AWYWI. I can. At 1:53 to about 2:19, if you listen to Neal play the axe, and slow it down, there was definitely a rip off. I am not sure what band did the song, but it's in Top Gun and very prominent too.
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:54 am

Rockin'Deano wrote:Ok, one more.

Anyway You Want It.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TAI2XLMG
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thanks deano

Postby larryfromnextdoor » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:01 am

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Rockin'Deano wrote:Ok, one more.

Anyway You Want It.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TAI2XLMG
8)


my goodness that song gets HIGH....who came in early for the second to last chorus??!!!! HA , that " hold on , hold " sounds difficult!! "my name is Jeff Scott Soto, thank your for joining us this evening !!" too cool,,
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:06 am

Rockin'Deano wrote:Ok, one more.

Anyway You Want It.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TAI2XLMG

During the guitar melody, can anyone hear the song from Top Gun that stole the sound from AWYWI. I can. At 1:53 to about 2:19, if you listen to Neal play the axe, and slow it down, there was definitely a rip off. I am not sure what band did the song, but it's in Top Gun and very prominent too.


maybe it was berlins- take my breath away ,, deano :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:10 am

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:
Rockin'Deano wrote:Ok, one more.

Anyway You Want It.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TAI2XLMG

During the guitar melody, can anyone hear the song from Top Gun that stole the sound from AWYWI. I can. At 1:53 to about 2:19, if you listen to Neal play the axe, and slow it down, there was definitely a rip off. I am not sure what band did the song, but it's in Top Gun and very prominent too.


maybe it was berlins- take my breath away ,, deano :lol:


No..It was instrumental....Fuck, I am not watching the movie to get it.....I know it wasn't Loggins. He was probably workin on some guys hose during breaks.
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Postby Just Mindy » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:10 am

Rockin'Deano wrote:Ok, one more.

Anyway You Want It.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TAI2XLMG

During the guitar melody, can anyone hear the song from Top Gun that stole the sound from AWYWI. I can. At 1:53 to about 2:19, if you listen to Neal play the axe, and slow it down, there was definitely a rip off. I am not sure what band did the song, but it's in Top Gun and very prominent too.


Thanks for this Dean I definitely missed a good show
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:13 am

Yeah, actually AC was just ok. The band was great, crowd sucked, but Boston was 10 times better.
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Postby SunshineTwilight » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:14 am

Rockin'Deano wrote:Ok, one more.

Anyway You Want It.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TAI2XLMG


DEANO,

You're the MAN!!!! :D
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Postby Just Mindy » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:14 am

Rockin'Deano wrote:Yeah, actually AC was just ok. The band was great, crowd sucked, but Boston was 10 times better.
Why'd the crowd suck, they didn't get into it??
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Postby SteveForever » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:18 am

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:maybe number 10

http://www.amazon.com/Gun-Soundtrack-Or ... B00000K2UX


I wore that cd out!
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