Steve Perry writing music

[Matthew]

OK, and how's that when they recored 4+ times the number of non ballads than ballads?

Rockers and mid-tempos can also be sentimental but not syrupy I guess.

Red - can I remind you that I wasn't the one complaining about Journey being too syrupy?

[NoMoreTails]

Well at least you call me Styx, unlike someone else! Listen go take the picture of Augeri off your bedroom wall, it's havin' a negative effect on your thoughts..stick a picture of Perry up instead and Life will ignite feelings you never thought you had

Weren't you the one who made reference to coming out of the closet earlier? You and Matt are sounding worse than Hots and Properry today.

And this from the man who thinks Augeri is a tough guy!

Never said that, just that he was more of a rocker.

[styxman]

Well at least you call me Styx, unlike someone else! Listen go take the picture of Augeri off your bedroom wall, it's havin' a negative effect on your thoughts..stick a picture of Perry up instead and Life will ignite feelings you never thought you had

Weren't you the one who made reference to coming out of the closet earlier? You and Matt are sounding worse than Hots and Properry today.

You've made my day NMT, to be compared to those two fine people, is the utmost reward any would be Loon would want..don't you agree Matt Thanks dude

[styxman]

OK, and how's that when they recored 4+ times the number of non ballads than ballads?

Rockers and mid-tempos can also be sentimental but not syrupy I guess.

Red - can I remind you that I wasn't the one complaining about Journey being too syrupy?

He wasn't Red, I'll vouch for that

[Red13JoePa]

Matts suggestion, yeh why'd you suggest that Matt There you go again with the Styx name

LOL, sorry twigsy.

You and Matt're one in the same to me now anyhow.


BTW, do you know you're a touchy, narcissistic, credit starved little person when it comes your posts?

"You spelled my name wrong!!! You credited Matt for a post I made!!! "

Go listen to Anyway in a melancholic attidue and the hormones will subside, the menopausal pain will be asorbed.

[Red13JoePa]

OK, and how's that when they recored 4+ times the number of non ballads than ballads?

Rockers and mid-tempos can also be sentimental but not syrupy I guess.

Red - can I remind you that I wasn't the one complaining about Journey being too syrupy?

Sure.
Can I remind you that you were justifying that syrupiness by suggesting that's mostly all they did?

[styxman]

Matts suggestion, yeh why'd you suggest that Matt There you go again with the Styx name

LOL, sorry twigsy.

You and Matt're one in the same to me now anyhow.


BTW, do you know you're a touchy, narcissistic, credit starved little person when it comes your posts?

"You spelled my name wrong!!! You credited Matt for a post I made!!! "

Go listen to Anyway in a melancholic attidue and the hormones will subside, the menopausal pain will be asorbed.

Sorry Yellow, I'll put a pad on and relax

[Matthew]

Well at least you call me Styx, unlike someone else! Listen go take the picture of Augeri off your bedroom wall, it's havin' a negative effect on your thoughts..stick a picture of Perry up instead and Life will ignite feelings you never thought you had

Weren't you the one who made reference to coming out of the closet earlier? You and Matt are sounding worse than Hots and Properry today.

And this from the man who thinks Augeri is a tough guy!

Never said that, just that he was more of a rocker.

NMT- his influences might have come from rock rather than R n B - but these influnces didn't seem to translate into Augeri's voice or on-stage presence. The guy was too beige and affable to be a true rocker.

[NoMoreTails]

Bets on how long it takes tb to delete the last two pages of this thread?

[Matthew]

OK, and how's that when they recored 4+ times the number of non ballads than ballads?

Rockers and mid-tempos can also be sentimental but not syrupy I guess.

Red - can I remind you that I wasn't the one complaining about Journey being too syrupy?

Sure.
Can I remind you that you were justifying that syrupiness by suggesting that's mostly all they did?

You've zeroed in on my use of "high sentimentality" in that post and ignored the other word I used to describe the band...which was "bombastic".

Also - I don't need to "justify" the syrup. I love the ballads just as much as the mid-tempo and fast-paced tracks.

[ohsherrie]

Perry is seen as the obvious choice to latch onto but those that follow Neal see themselves as the cool dudes. I see it for what it is, the voice backed up by the music. Good as they are now, the magical component is missin', you can blast that guitar 24/7 but it needs to feed a voice ...........and not just a voice, the VOICE

Pretty much how I feel too, enjoy all components of the band. But call me shallow but alot of it rides on having a great frontman. Perry is one of a kind! Have to admit.....having a passionate, kickass frontman again in JSS is what brought me back around to Journey.

What she said.

[styxman]

Bets on how long it takes tb to delete the last two pages of this thread?

That won't happen, he's probably too busy looking up a 6 paragraphed short story to share with us from some obscure site, to be concerned with this

[NoMoreTails]

NMT- his influences might have come from rock rather than R n B - but these influnces didn't seem to translate into Augeri's voice or on-stage presence. The guy was too beige and affable to be a true rocker.

And I wrote (implying) that I credited this to Schon and Cain's staying with the tried and true (with some exceptions). It was a detriment to SA's voice as well as to his forging his own identity to the extent he could have.

[frfksakes]

PS, frfksakes i'll straighten you out then:
NoMota made the point that they're more a rock band and he preferred augri's rockier side.
Matt made the point that they were more a weepy syrupy band, and that we can't embrace jrny w/out acknowledging that and I rebutted that they recorded way more rock than ballads, and had more non ballad hits than ballad hits.

Er...not quite....NMT was complaining about Journey being too "syrupy" with Perry...and I said that Journey were prone to high sentimentality with or without him.

thanks for the lowdown red13

prone to high sentimentality = Friga (Perry learned it from him, lol)

And while they may have recorded more non ballads, they are known by most of the masses for their ballads, or near ballads (WCN, STR, IBAWOY, etc, were pretty slow, even DSB was on the edge). I think that is one of the reasons Journey is not thought of as "cool" – the biggest nail being their biggest hit of all, which is their sappiest song of all. Most people are not aware of all of the great rockers except maybe AWYWI and SW.

Anyway, as long a Friga is writing, they will be prone to sentimentality, imo. Good or bad, depends on the song I guess.

[Moon Beam]

Bets on how long it takes tb to delete the last two pages of this thread?

NMT


Easy Big T, easy now fella.

[Red13JoePa]

Bets on how long it takes tb to delete the last two pages of this thread?

NMT


Easy Big T, easy now fella.

Nah, bone's been pretty good with that lately. And in reality the only personal insult was my menopause joke on stix"man" and Matt, Nig and NoMota going roundrobin on the manhood jokes.


All in all, not censor worthy given the brilliance and insight of the whole discourse.

[Deb]

Bets on how long it takes tb to delete the last two pages of this thread?

Hope not, watching you alpha males go at it has made for some pretty funny/interesting reading.

[Red13JoePa]

You and Matt are sounding worse than Hots and Properry today.

And this from the man who thinks Augeri is a tough guy!

Pfff.

Old Chap, let's say an actual dustup occured.


You honestly think Augeri wouldn't PLANT perry in like 8 seconds?

[ohsherrie]

Bets on how long it takes tb to delete the last two pages of this thread?

Hope not, watching you alpha males go at it has made for some pretty funny/interesting reading.

Yeah, imagine, an 8 page thread about Perry with the least of the posts coming from those of us who've been labeled and certified as 'loons.

[styxman]

Bets on how long it takes tb to delete the last two pages of this thread?

Hope not, watching you alpha males go at it has made for some pretty funny/interesting reading.

Yeah, imagine, an 8 page thread about Perry with the least of the posts coming from those of us who've been labeled and certified as 'loons.

Think of us as your Knights in shinning armour, defenders of all things Loon

[Red13JoePa]

Well, hell what's there to talk about for loons?

Still another sighting of perry "writing" not singing (and if he's such an accomplished writer why did everyone but Abitaman cowrite Street Talk and FTLOSM?)

Talking about what it would sound like in that room where perry and Bettancourt playback by themselves over and over what they wrote together?

Say, "Ah, even if they won't let anyone not portuguese and named Nuno or perry hear it, I'm just happy STEVE did something to make him happy"

It'd be like a 1-page thread.

[Deb]

Old Chap, let's say an actual dustup occured.


You honestly think Augeri wouldn't PLANT perry in like 8 seconds?

You serious???? Now that's funny! Post of the day!

[i]

Sorry to go back OT, lol, but it's hard not to be encouraged by all of the recent news of SP. Esp this writing jaunt, and the vocal training.

I won't be surprised if doesn't jump back into the business, but at least he's dipping his toes in a little.

I'd be ecstatic if he’d just put out a song or two now and then through the internet.

[ohsherrie]

Well, hell what's there to talk about for loons?

Still another sighting of perry "writing" not singing?

Talking about what it would sound like in that room where perry and Bettancourt playback by themselves over and over what they wrote together?

Say, "Ah, even if they won't let anyone not portuguese and named Nuno or perry hear it, I'm just happy STEVE did something to make him happy"

It'd be like a 1-page thread.

You certainly seemed to find something interesting in it. You've been babbling on for 8 pages.

[Red13JoePa]

Old Chap, let's say an actual dustup occured.


You honestly think Augeri wouldn't PLANT perry in like 8 seconds?

You serious???? Now that's funny! Post of the day!

Well come on man.
Bound to end bad either way for p.

In their primes, perry was so skinny if he had buck teeth Augeri would turn him over and use him as a rake.

Now, chipmunk cheeks would just get completely housed.

It's science and genetics really.

[ohsherrie]

Bets on how long it takes tb to delete the last two pages of this thread?

Hope not, watching you alpha males go at it has made for some pretty funny/interesting reading.

Yeah, imagine, an 8 page thread about Perry with the least of the posts coming from those of us who've been labeled and certified as 'loons.

Think of us as your Knights in shinning armour, defenders of all things Loon

You and Matt are most definitely my heros.

[styxman]

Old Chap, let's say an actual dustup occured.


You honestly think Augeri wouldn't PLANT perry in like 8 seconds?

You serious???? Now that's funny! Post of the day!

Well come on man.
Bound to end bad either way for p.

In their primes, perry was so skinny if he had buck teeth Augeri would turn him over and use him as a rake.

Now, chipmunk cheeks would just get completely housed.

It's science and genetics really.

I shouldn't laugh but that was funny

[Deb]

Old Chap, let's say an actual dustup occured.


You honestly think Augeri wouldn't PLANT perry in like 8 seconds?

You serious???? Now that's funny! Post of the day!

Well come on man.
Bound to end bad either way for p.

In their primes, perry was so skinny if he had buck teeth Augeri would turn him over and use him as a rake.

Now, chipmunk cheeks would just get completely housed.

It's science and genetics really.

Highly doubt it Red. Ever seen the temper on that guy, he's got balls! Augeri??????

[NoMoreTails]

Well, hell what's there to talk about for loons?

Still another sighting of perry "writing" not singing (and if he's such an accomplished writer why did everyone but Abitaman cowrite Street Talk and FTLOSM?)

Talking about what it would sound like in that room where perry and Bettancourt playback by themselves over and over what they wrote together?

Say, "Ah, even if they won't let anyone not portuguese and named Nuno or perry hear it, I'm just happy STEVE did something to make him happy"

It'd be like a 1-page thread.

No, actual recording this time, another re-hash:
"More than diaphragm and lung convulsions to show me how you feee-eel....huuuaahhhh"

[styxman]

Bets on how long it takes tb to delete the last two pages of this thread?

Hope not, watching you alpha males go at it has made for some pretty funny/interesting reading.

Yeah, imagine, an 8 page thread about Perry with the least of the posts coming from those of us who've been labeled and certified as 'loons.

Think of us as your Knights in shinning armour, defenders of all things Loon

You and Matt are most definitely my heros.

Matt, I'm Lancelot okay