OT: Memorial For MJ at Staples Center on July 7

[NealIsGod]

Here's Paris for those that missed her. Just click play.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8137700.stm

Heartbreaking.

[Don]

Here's Paris for those that missed her. Just click play.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8137700.stm

Heartbreaking.

Yeah, no matter what his alleged or implied sins were, to this child Michael was Daddy and her loss is just as significant as if it was our own parent or child taken from us.

[Lora]

His daughter's goodbye was heart wrenching.

That hurt.

That is one little girl who is wise beyond her years. God bless the three of them... they lost their Daddy. Marlon's request for Michael to give Brandon a hug was tear-jerking. Say what you will about the media and the coverage. Say what you want about Michael, it doesn't mean a damn thing what any of us think of him really. Those people lost a loved one, we've all been there. And I think some people are losing sight of that and giving into this speculative fodder from the past 15 years. Mike was a man, nothing more nothing less. And a damn good man at that (regardless of how "strange" he seemed sometimes). And I'm not ashamed to say it.

Nicely said, Rhi. I can't imagine losing your daddy at such a young age. I hope she and her brothers get to stay with the Jacksons as there is obviously a lot of love in that family for those kids. Hopefully they can keep the kids away from that creepy grandfather - Joe Jackson.

[steveo777]

Here's Paris for those that missed her. Just click play.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8137700.stm

What beautiful kids MJ has. It almost makes you wonder if they were genetically engineered in some way. He had the money....

[Jana]

Here's Paris for those that missed her. Just click play.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8137700.stm

What beautiful kids MJ has. It almost makes you wonder if they were genetically engineered in some way. He had the money....

They're all really, really cute kids. But Huffington Post has about four or five up close photos of them at the funeral, and the little one, Blanket, is absolutely gorgeous. He looks to have Spanish in him or something. In a couple of the photos he is holding a doll throughout the funeral, and I looked closer and finally realized he was holding a Michael Jackson doll. How sweet.

[Arkansas]

I gotta agree with this:

"Mr. Jackson received days of wall-to-wall coverage in the media," Martha Gillis wrote to the Washington Post. "Where was the coverage of my nephew or the other soldiers who died that week?"

"... the nonstop coverage of Jackson's death has become "totally ridiculous" and laughable."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530361,00.html



later~

[ScarabGator]

Holy damn, that little girl---sad, sad, sad. Made even the biggest Gator tear up....

[SteveForever]

They're all really, really cute kids. But Huffington Post has about four or five up close photos of them at the funeral, and the little one, Blanket, is absolutely gorgeous. He looks to have Spanish in him or something. In a couple of the photos he is holding a doll throughout the funeral, and I looked closer and finally realized he was holding a Michael Jackson doll. How sweet.

Jana, thanks for that info...looked those pics up on Huff post and they are gorgeous, all three kids are really stunning!
I hope Janet can raise them, she seems somewhat normal. I would really like to know who the biological parents are, dang I hope they are really Michael's....just cause....

[journey062393]

I had the service playing on the TV in the background as I did some work on the computer. I checked in every now and then to see who was performing. Two of my kids played (ages 6,3) but never paid any attention to the TV. When his daughter started speaking, all three of us stopped what we were doing and watched. That's when it hit me. I thought it was pretty sad anyways, but to see that my kids were watching her really hit home. I really feel for her. She'll be set for life with money and fame, but none of that will bring daddy back.

[Glenn]

Here's Paris for those that missed her. Just click play.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8137700.stm

Heartbreaking.

Yeah, no matter what his alleged or implied sins were, to this child Michael was Daddy and her loss is just as significant as if it was our own parent or child taken from us.

+ Infinity

Every thought, good and bad about MJ went right out the window when I saw those 11 seconds.

[StoneCold]

I gotta agree with this:

"Mr. Jackson received days of wall-to-wall coverage in the media," Martha Gillis wrote to the Washington Post. "Where was the coverage of my nephew or the other soldiers who died that week?"

"... the nonstop coverage of Jackson's death has become "totally ridiculous" and laughable."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530361,00.html



later~

Why isn't she mad at Farrah? She got a couple days publicity too. The false premise is that millions of people would be interested in her nephew's death. We didn't know him. She's having a pity party using Jackson as a scapegoat.

Musical artists reach all of us so we have varying degrees of connection at their passing.

Why are we on a Journey forum?

[Rick]

I gotta agree with this:

"Mr. Jackson received days of wall-to-wall coverage in the media," Martha Gillis wrote to the Washington Post. "Where was the coverage of my nephew or the other soldiers who died that week?"

"... the nonstop coverage of Jackson's death has become "totally ridiculous" and laughable."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530361,00.html



later~

I agree AK. News stations air what draws the largest volume of viewers. It's sad that our servicemen take a back seat to entertainment. It should certainly not be that way.

[Babyblue]

His daughter's goodbye was heart wrenching.

That hurt.

That is one little girl who is wise beyond her years. God bless the three of them... they lost their Daddy. Marlon's request for Michael to give Brandon a hug was tear-jerking. Say what you will about the media and the coverage. Say what you want about Michael, it doesn't mean a damn thing what any of us think of him really. Those people lost a loved one, we've all been there. And I think some people are losing sight of that and giving into this speculative fodder from the past 15 years. Mike was a man, nothing more nothing less. And a damn good man at that (regardless of how "strange" he seemed sometimes). And I'm not ashamed to say it.

That was so beautiful Rhianon.

[Chubby321]

Rest in PEACE Michael, rest in PEACE.

[Don]

I gotta agree with this:

"Mr. Jackson received days of wall-to-wall coverage in the media," Martha Gillis wrote to the Washington Post. "Where was the coverage of my nephew or the other soldiers who died that week?"

"... the nonstop coverage of Jackson's death has become "totally ridiculous" and laughable."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530361,00.html



later~

Why isn't she mad at Farrah? She got a couple days publicity too. The false premise is that millions of people would be interested in her nephew's death. We didn't know him. She's having a pity party using Jackson as a scapegoat.

Musical artists reach all of us so we have varying degrees of connection at their passing.

Why are we on a Journey forum?

Servicemen are losing their lives everyday, without so much as a blurb on radio but now that Jackson is getting press, it's all bad. What about the ones who weren't getting acknowledged before Jackson's death? How come no outcry from this woman then? Her nephew was doing his job and got whacked, one of the dangers of that type of job. It's a shame but that's what happens in War. We can't honor every fallen soldier on a national stage. The service will give her nephew a burial and the people that are effected by his death will be there. In Jackson's case, millions of people felt something with his passing. They couldn't all be at his funeral so the media brought it to them.
Service men don't go in the service looking for acknowledgment from their fellow countrymen when they've snuffed it. If they went in the military wanting to be remembered as a hero, then they're priorities were in the wrong place to begin with.

We had two of our lads dragged through the streets in Somalia during Ma-alinti Rangers and that was all over the news. When we recovered their bodies and sent them home, no one reported it because it would have been a somber reminder of our failings against a third world militia. Those guys deserved more than anyone else to be remembered after having their bodies desecrated on worldwide television but nothing except silence from the public. Yet when we go to honor someone that is an icon and because he is considered a weirdo by some, this chick feels the need to open her mouth and complain to Fox News. Her nephew did his job, salute him and move on. STOP BITCHING.

[Rick]

I gotta agree with this:

"Mr. Jackson received days of wall-to-wall coverage in the media," Martha Gillis wrote to the Washington Post. "Where was the coverage of my nephew or the other soldiers who died that week?"

"... the nonstop coverage of Jackson's death has become "totally ridiculous" and laughable."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530361,00.html



later~

Why isn't she mad at Farrah? She got a couple days publicity too. The false premise is that millions of people would be interested in her nephew's death. We didn't know him. She's having a pity party using Jackson as a scapegoat.

Musical artists reach all of us so we have varying degrees of connection at their passing.

Why are we on a Journey forum?

Servicemen are losing their lives everyday, without so much as a blurb on radio but now that Jackson is getting press, it's all bad. What about the ones who weren't getting acknowledged before Jackson's death?How come no outcry from this woman then? Her nephew was doing his job and got whacked, one of the dangers of that type of job. It's a shame but that's what happens in War. We can't honor every fallen soldier on a national stage. The service will give her nephew a burial and the people that are effected by his death will be there. In Jackson's case, millions of people felt something with his passing. They couldn't all be at his funeral so the media brought it to them.
Service men don't go in the service looking for acknowledgment from their fellow countrymen when they've snuffed it. If they went in the military wanting to be remembered as a hero, then they're priorities were in the wrong place to begin with.

We had two of our lads dragged through the streets in Somalia during Ma-alinti Rangers and that was all over the news. When we recovered their bodies and sent them home, no one reported it because it would have been a somber reminder of our failings against a third world militia. Those guys deserved more than anyone else to be remembered after having their bodies desecrated on worldwide television but nothing except silence from the public. Yet when we go to honor someone that is an icon and because he is considered a weirdo by some, this chick feels the need to open her mouth and complain to Fox News. Her nephew did his job, salute him and move on. STOP BITCHING.

I love ya GB, but I have a big problem with this post. And it all boils down to, What has this country become? When and where did we lose our allegiance to this great nation, it's flag and those that serve it? We prefer to pay our attention to entertainment, and it's been that way for a long time.

Sure, I'm saddened that MJ has gone. I think he was a hell of a pioneer in the entertainment industry. But that's just it. We pay more attention to entertainment than what is really important to this country. A huge one of those is, those that give their lives for us, so we can have the right to enjoy Michael and Journey and all of the other luxuries we're so spoiled to.

We need to get back to what Kennedy asked. What can we do for our country?

I'm a Democrat, mind you, but I will always pledge my allegiance to this country, our flag, and so importantly, our servicemen. They should never take a back seat to an entertainer.

That's my opinion.

[Don]

I gotta agree with this:

"Mr. Jackson received days of wall-to-wall coverage in the media," Martha Gillis wrote to the Washington Post. "Where was the coverage of my nephew or the other soldiers who died that week?"

"... the nonstop coverage of Jackson's death has become "totally ridiculous" and laughable."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530361,00.html



later~

Why isn't she mad at Farrah? She got a couple days publicity too. The false premise is that millions of people would be interested in her nephew's death. We didn't know him. She's having a pity party using Jackson as a scapegoat.

Musical artists reach all of us so we have varying degrees of connection at their passing.

Why are we on a Journey forum?

Servicemen are losing their lives everyday, without so much as a blurb on radio but now that Jackson is getting press, it's all bad. What about the ones who weren't getting acknowledged before Jackson's death?How come no outcry from this woman then? Her nephew was doing his job and got whacked, one of the dangers of that type of job. It's a shame but that's what happens in War. We can't honor every fallen soldier on a national stage. The service will give her nephew a burial and the people that are effected by his death will be there. In Jackson's case, millions of people felt something with his passing. They couldn't all be at his funeral so the media brought it to them.
Service men don't go in the service looking for acknowledgment from their fellow countrymen when they've snuffed it. If they went in the military wanting to be remembered as a hero, then they're priorities were in the wrong place to begin with.

We had two of our lads dragged through the streets in Somalia during Ma-alinti Rangers and that was all over the news. When we recovered their bodies and sent them home, no one reported it because it would have been a somber reminder of our failings against a third world militia. Those guys deserved more than anyone else to be remembered after having their bodies desecrated on worldwide television but nothing except silence from the public. Yet when we go to honor someone that is an icon and because he is considered a weirdo by some, this chick feels the need to open her mouth and complain to Fox News. Her nephew did his job, salute him and move on. STOP BITCHING.

I love ya GB, but I have a big problem with this post. And it all boils down to, What has this country become? When and where did we lose our allegiance to this great nation, it's flag and those that serve it? We prefer to pay our attention to entertainment, and it's been that way for a long time.

Sure, I'm saddened that MJ has gone. I think he was a hell of a pioneer in the entertainment industry. But that's just it. We pay more attention to entertainment than what is really important to this country. A huge one of those is, those that give their lives for us, so we can have the right to enjoy Michael and Journey and all of the other luxuries we're so spoiled to.

We need to get back to what Kennedy asked. What can we do for our country?

I'm a Democrat, mind you, but I will always pledge my allegiance to this country, our flag, and so importantly, our servicemen. They should never take a back seat to an entertainer.

That's my opinion.

I have no problem with your opinion. My problem is this woman or her statements were used by the same media she is complaining about to further grind an axe many are upset about because of their personal feelings toward Jackson. Where has this lambasting of the media been when other mundane entertainment issues have dominated the news. Soldiers were still dying everyday, yet no outcry.
I'm not dogging on either political party or the military. I was there when those body bags were loaded on the plane out of Mogadishu to a freezer tent in Cairo, Egypt so I'm not talking out of my ass on these things. I don't just don't like people or organizations hiding behind patriotism, particularly the death of a soldier, to push their own views or agenda.

[Behshad]

I gotta agree with this:

"Mr. Jackson received days of wall-to-wall coverage in the media," Martha Gillis wrote to the Washington Post. "Where was the coverage of my nephew or the other soldiers who died that week?"

"... the nonstop coverage of Jackson's death has become "totally ridiculous" and laughable."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530361,00.html



later~

Why isn't she mad at Farrah? She got a couple days publicity too. The false premise is that millions of people would be interested in her nephew's death. We didn't know him. She's having a pity party using Jackson as a scapegoat.

Musical artists reach all of us so we have varying degrees of connection at their passing.

Why are we on a Journey forum?

Servicemen are losing their lives everyday, without so much as a blurb on radio but now that Jackson is getting press, it's all bad. What about the ones who weren't getting acknowledged before Jackson's death?How come no outcry from this woman then? Her nephew was doing his job and got whacked, one of the dangers of that type of job. It's a shame but that's what happens in War. We can't honor every fallen soldier on a national stage. The service will give her nephew a burial and the people that are effected by his death will be there. In Jackson's case, millions of people felt something with his passing. They couldn't all be at his funeral so the media brought it to them.
Service men don't go in the service looking for acknowledgment from their fellow countrymen when they've snuffed it. If they went in the military wanting to be remembered as a hero, then they're priorities were in the wrong place to begin with.

We had two of our lads dragged through the streets in Somalia during Ma-alinti Rangers and that was all over the news. When we recovered their bodies and sent them home, no one reported it because it would have been a somber reminder of our failings against a third world militia. Those guys deserved more than anyone else to be remembered after having their bodies desecrated on worldwide television but nothing except silence from the public. Yet when we go to honor someone that is an icon and because he is considered a weirdo by some, this chick feels the need to open her mouth and complain to Fox News. Her nephew did his job, salute him and move on. STOP BITCHING.

I love ya GB, but I have a big problem with this post. And it all boils down to, What has this country become? When and where did we lose our allegiance to this great nation, it's flag and those that serve it? We prefer to pay our attention to entertainment, and it's been that way for a long time.

Sure, I'm saddened that MJ has gone. I think he was a hell of a pioneer in the entertainment industry. But that's just it. We pay more attention to entertainment than what is really important to this country. A huge one of those is, those that give their lives for us, so we can have the right to enjoy Michael and Journey and all of the other luxuries we're so spoiled to.

We need to get back to what Kennedy asked. What can we do for our country?

I'm a Democrat, mind you, but I will always pledge my allegiance to this country, our flag, and so importantly, our servicemen. They should never take a back seat to an entertainer.

That's my opinion.

Rick. Nothing has changed our nation. You go back decades ago and Elvis' death & funeral got more attention than any fallen soldiers in Korea & Vietnam Did , combined.

You can't even compare the two things and you can't say because a mega star like MJ gets this huge attention , he was more important to this country than those who serve.

While some may think that the media coverage of MJs death and memorial may have gone overboard , if you think deeply about it , he was a one of a kind person who left shoes behind no one can ever fill. I think he deserved every bit of attention and coverage because of what he did for the music we all enjoyed listening to whole growing up. But that doesn't mean I think he is more important than any of our sons and daughter losing their lives to protect our country.
It just wouldn't be possible nor practical to have a ceremony like MJ had for every fallen soldier.

[Jana]

They're all really, really cute kids. But Huffington Post has about four or five up close photos of them at the funeral, and the little one, Blanket, is absolutely gorgeous. He looks to have Spanish in him or something. In a couple of the photos he is holding a doll throughout the funeral, and I looked closer and finally realized he was holding a Michael Jackson doll. How sweet.

Jana, thanks for that info...looked those pics up on Huff post and they are gorgeous, all three kids are really stunning!
I hope Janet can raise them, she seems somewhat normal. I would really like to know who the biological parents are, dang I hope they are really Michael's....just cause....

No, none of them are Michael's. The two older ones it's being reported was his dermatologist's, the one Debbie Rowe worked for. He, I think, came out and denied being the father to the younger one, but I don't believe he ever came out and denied being the father of the older ones. At first it was stated Debbie Rowe wasn't even the mother, just carried the two to term. But she came out and said she is the mother. And, actually, her daughter resembles her.

The grandmother is going to raise them, but at her age I'm sure with the help of her daughters. Plus they mentioned they might look into bringing back their long-term nanny who was like a mother to Michael's children, but who knows if that will happen. It would be best for the kids to give them continuity.

[Rick]

I gotta agree with this:

"Mr. Jackson received days of wall-to-wall coverage in the media," Martha Gillis wrote to the Washington Post. "Where was the coverage of my nephew or the other soldiers who died that week?"

"... the nonstop coverage of Jackson's death has become "totally ridiculous" and laughable."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530361,00.html



later~

Why isn't she mad at Farrah? She got a couple days publicity too. The false premise is that millions of people would be interested in her nephew's death. We didn't know him. She's having a pity party using Jackson as a scapegoat.

Musical artists reach all of us so we have varying degrees of connection at their passing.

Why are we on a Journey forum?

Servicemen are losing their lives everyday, without so much as a blurb on radio but now that Jackson is getting press, it's all bad. What about the ones who weren't getting acknowledged before Jackson's death?How come no outcry from this woman then? Her nephew was doing his job and got whacked, one of the dangers of that type of job. It's a shame but that's what happens in War. We can't honor every fallen soldier on a national stage. The service will give her nephew a burial and the people that are effected by his death will be there. In Jackson's case, millions of people felt something with his passing. They couldn't all be at his funeral so the media brought it to them.
Service men don't go in the service looking for acknowledgment from their fellow countrymen when they've snuffed it. If they went in the military wanting to be remembered as a hero, then they're priorities were in the wrong place to begin with.

We had two of our lads dragged through the streets in Somalia during Ma-alinti Rangers and that was all over the news. When we recovered their bodies and sent them home, no one reported it because it would have been a somber reminder of our failings against a third world militia. Those guys deserved more than anyone else to be remembered after having their bodies desecrated on worldwide television but nothing except silence from the public. Yet when we go to honor someone that is an icon and because he is considered a weirdo by some, this chick feels the need to open her mouth and complain to Fox News. Her nephew did his job, salute him and move on. STOP BITCHING.

I love ya GB, but I have a big problem with this post. And it all boils down to, What has this country become? When and where did we lose our allegiance to this great nation, it's flag and those that serve it? We prefer to pay our attention to entertainment, and it's been that way for a long time.

Sure, I'm saddened that MJ has gone. I think he was a hell of a pioneer in the entertainment industry. But that's just it. We pay more attention to entertainment than what is really important to this country. A huge one of those is, those that give their lives for us, so we can have the right to enjoy Michael and Journey and all of the other luxuries we're so spoiled to.

We need to get back to what Kennedy asked. What can we do for our country?

I'm a Democrat, mind you, but I will always pledge my allegiance to this country, our flag, and so importantly, our servicemen. They should never take a back seat to an entertainer.

That's my opinion.

Rick. Nothing has changed our nation. You go back decades ago and Elvis' death & funeral got more attention than any fallen soldiers in Korea & Vietnam Did , combined.

You can't even compare the two things and you can't say because a mega star like MJ gets this huge attention , he was more important to this country than those who serve.

While some may think that the media coverage of MJs death and memorial may have gone overboard , if you think deeply about it , he was a one of a kind person who left shoes behind no one can ever fill. I think he deserved every bit of attention and coverage because of what he did for the music we all enjoyed listening to whole growing up. But that doesn't mean I think he is more important than any of our sons and daughter losing their lives to protect our country.
It just wouldn't be possible nor practical to have a ceremony like MJ had for every fallen soldier.

Good points B. No, certainly not. But, to me, nobody is more important than our servicemen. They give us everything. The freedom to enjoy whatever it is we enjoy. I just think this country has lost it's perspective, and it's all because of what the media feeds us.

I have no problem with anyone appreciating Michael Jackson. My heart broke when I heard the news of his death. He's been around all of my life. I just think the media needs to pay attention to other things than entertainment. What's real and what they feed us is two different worlds of reality.

[Behshad]

They're all really, really cute kids. But Huffington Post has about four or five up close photos of them at the funeral, and the little one, Blanket, is absolutely gorgeous. He looks to have Spanish in him or something. In a couple of the photos he is holding a doll throughout the funeral, and I looked closer and finally realized he was holding a Michael Jackson doll. How sweet.

Jana, thanks for that info...looked those pics up on Huff post and they are gorgeous, all three kids are really stunning!
I hope Janet can raise them, she seems somewhat normal. I would really like to know who the biological parents are, dang I hope they are really Michael's....just cause....

No, none of them are Michael's. The two older ones it's being reported was his dermatologist's, the one Debbie Rowe worked for. He, I think, came out and denied being the father to the younger one, but I don't believe he ever came out and denied being the father of the older ones. At first it was stated Debbie Rowe wasn't even the mother, just carried the two to term. But she came out and said she is the mother. And, actually, her daughter resembles her.

The grandmother is going to raise them, but at her age I'm sure with the help of her daughters. Plus they mentioned they might look into bringing back their long-term nanny who was like a mother to Michael's children, but who knows if that will happen. It would be best for the kids to give them continuity.

The two older ones DO have some of MJs features so I don't buy the crap some of these rumor sources trying to spread. Wouldn't they be allowed to do a DNA test now that MJ is gone ?!

[comedyisnotpretty]

Sharpton... oh here we go. Potty break!!

Yep, and I knew he'd discuss race. I don't know why that has to be in everything he does.

I don't even know what he said... I left the room.

Well, here is a quote for ya: "Nothing will fill your heart's loss...but I hope da love that people are showing will make you know he didn't live in vain. And I want his three children to know... whatn't nuttin' strange about your daddy. It WAS STRANGE what your daddy had to deal with! But he dealt with it."

[Jana]

They're all really, really cute kids. But Huffington Post has about four or five up close photos of them at the funeral, and the little one, Blanket, is absolutely gorgeous. He looks to have Spanish in him or something. In a couple of the photos he is holding a doll throughout the funeral, and I looked closer and finally realized he was holding a Michael Jackson doll. How sweet.

Jana, thanks for that info...looked those pics up on Huff post and they are gorgeous, all three kids are really stunning!
I hope Janet can raise them, she seems somewhat normal. I would really like to know who the biological parents are, dang I hope they are really Michael's....just cause....

No, none of them are Michael's. The two older ones it's being reported was his dermatologist's, the one Debbie Rowe worked for. He, I think, came out and denied being the father to the younger one, but I don't believe he ever came out and denied being the father of the older ones. At first it was stated Debbie Rowe wasn't even the mother, just carried the two to term. But she came out and said she is the mother. And, actually, her daughter resembles her.

The grandmother is going to raise them, but at her age I'm sure with the help of her daughters. Plus they mentioned they might look into bringing back their long-term nanny who was like a mother to Michael's children, but who knows if that will happen. It would be best for the kids to give them continuity.

The two older ones DO have some of MJs features so I don't buy the crap some of these rumor sources trying to spread. Wouldn't they be allowed to do a DNA test now that MJ is gone ?!

Those kids are white. They have no black in them to my eye. When it was stated that she only carried the children and neither were parents, she only came out and said she was the mother. She didn't deny that Michael wasn't the father.

Here's an excerpt form a 2004 interview that somebody posted on here:

Debbie (who lives on a farm surrounded by animals) said, ""I was just the vessel. It wasn't Michael's sperm. Just like I stick the sperm up my horse, this is what they did to me. I was his thoroughbred."....

After Debbie gave birth to second child Paris, she couldn't have kids again, "The delivery was so hard. My insides were all torn up and I was barren. When he knew I couldn't have any more babies he didn't want anything to do with me."

[Jubilee]

Those kids are white. They have no black in them to my eye. When it was stated that she only carried the children and neither were parents, she only came out and said she was the mother. She didn't deny that Michael wasn't the father.

Here's an excerpt form a 2004 interview that somebody posted on here:

Debbie (who lives on a farm surrounded by animals) said, ""I was just the vessel. It wasn't Michael's sperm. Just like I stick the sperm up my horse, this is what they did to me. I was his thoroughbred."....

After Debbie gave birth to second child Paris, she couldn't have kids again, "The delivery was so hard. My insides were all torn up and I was barren. When he knew I couldn't have any more babies he didn't want anything to do with me."

With all due respect, Jana, you really can't tell anything just by looking. In any case, the question of whether the oldest two are "his" is moot. They were born to him by his legally wedded wife at the time. As for the youngest, the issue is still somewhat cloudy. What ever the case, I don't understand the speculation as to whether the kids are "his" or not. He was their father and they were his kids in every way that mattered. If we really wanted to get down to the genetic nitty-gritty there may be some surprises for quite a few of us.

[steveo777]

Those kids are white. They have no black in them to my eye. When it was stated that she only carried the children and neither were parents, she only came out and said she was the mother. She didn't deny that Michael wasn't the father.

Here's an excerpt form a 2004 interview that somebody posted on here:

Debbie (who lives on a farm surrounded by animals) said, ""I was just the vessel. It wasn't Michael's sperm. Just like I stick the sperm up my horse, this is what they did to me. I was his thoroughbred."....

After Debbie gave birth to second child Paris, she couldn't have kids again, "The delivery was so hard. My insides were all torn up and I was barren. When he knew I couldn't have any more babies he didn't want anything to do with me."

With all due respect, Jana, you really can't tell anything just by looking. In any case, the question of whether the oldest two are "his" is moot. They were born to him by his legally wedded wife at the time. As for the youngest, the issue is still somewhat cloudy. What ever the case, I don't understand the speculation as to whether the kids are "his" or not. He was their father and they were his kids in every way that mattered. If we really wanted to get down to the genetic nitty-gritty there may be some surprises for quite a few of us.

Some things are better left alone. This is one of those things.

[Jubilee]

Those kids are white. They have no black in them to my eye. When it was stated that she only carried the children and neither were parents, she only came out and said she was the mother. She didn't deny that Michael wasn't the father.

Here's an excerpt form a 2004 interview that somebody posted on here:

Debbie (who lives on a farm surrounded by animals) said, ""I was just the vessel. It wasn't Michael's sperm. Just like I stick the sperm up my horse, this is what they did to me. I was his thoroughbred."....

After Debbie gave birth to second child Paris, she couldn't have kids again, "The delivery was so hard. My insides were all torn up and I was barren. When he knew I couldn't have any more babies he didn't want anything to do with me."

With all due respect, Jana, you really can't tell anything just by looking. In any case, the question of whether the oldest two are "his" is moot. They were born to him by his legally wedded wife at the time. As for the youngest, the issue is still somewhat cloudy. What ever the case, I don't understand the speculation as to whether the kids are "his" or not. He was their father and they were his kids in every way that mattered. If we really wanted to get down to the genetic nitty-gritty there may be some surprises for quite a few of us.

Some things are better left alone. This is one of those things.

I hear ya.

[Deb]

Those kids are white. They have no black in them to my eye. When it was stated that she only carried the children and neither were parents, she only came out and said she was the mother. She didn't deny that Michael wasn't the father.

Here's an excerpt form a 2004 interview that somebody posted on here:

Debbie (who lives on a farm surrounded by animals) said, ""I was just the vessel. It wasn't Michael's sperm. Just like I stick the sperm up my horse, this is what they did to me. I was his thoroughbred."....

After Debbie gave birth to second child Paris, she couldn't have kids again, "The delivery was so hard. My insides were all torn up and I was barren. When he knew I couldn't have any more babies he didn't want anything to do with me."

With all due respect, Jana, you really can't tell anything just by looking. In any case, the question of whether the oldest two are "his" is moot. They were born to him by his legally wedded wife at the time. As for the youngest, the issue is still somewhat cloudy. What ever the case, I don't understand the speculation as to whether the kids are "his" or not. He was their father and they were his kids in every way that mattered. If we really wanted to get down to the genetic nitty-gritty there may be some surprises for quite a few of us.

Was just going to say the same thing. Doesn't matter anyway, Michael was their father in the sense that mattered. And from Paris' emotional tribute........"the best father you can imagine".

[Jana]

Those kids are white. They have no black in them to my eye. When it was stated that she only carried the children and neither were parents, she only came out and said she was the mother. She didn't deny that Michael wasn't the father.

Here's an excerpt form a 2004 interview that somebody posted on here:

Debbie (who lives on a farm surrounded by animals) said, ""I was just the vessel. It wasn't Michael's sperm. Just like I stick the sperm up my horse, this is what they did to me. I was his thoroughbred."....

After Debbie gave birth to second child Paris, she couldn't have kids again, "The delivery was so hard. My insides were all torn up and I was barren. When he knew I couldn't have any more babies he didn't want anything to do with me."

With all due respect, Jana, you really can't tell anything just by looking. In any case, the question of whether the oldest two are "his" is moot. They were born to him by his legally wedded wife at the time. As for the youngest, the issue is still somewhat cloudy. What ever the case, I don't understand the speculation as to whether the kids are "his" or not. He was their father and they were his kids in every way that mattered. If we really wanted to get down to the genetic nitty-gritty there may be some surprises for quite a few of us.

Well, true, but that and I was more going by the interview with Debbie Rowe. I was just responding to SteveForever who wanted to know who the biological parents were and passing along that interview that someone posted on here re it not being Michael's sperm. But I consider them his children, whether he's the biological father or not, as I'm sure anyone does. He raised them.

[treetopovskaya]

mj raised those children as his own... it doesn't matter really if they were his biological children or not. he was their daddy... the only daddy they knew. my heart breaks for their loss.

[Don]

john mayer gives me the willies.

Yea would have much rathered seeing Neal up there!! haha

Amen.

In the casket?? Thats rude!

I think when you look at John and see the whole package, the philanthropy, the activism, trying to make the world a better place, you realize his participation at this ceremony really made a lot of sense.