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Postby KenTheDude » Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:39 am

KDOUBLEU wrote:I really dont have anything to say about this other than it is starting to sound like it is really going to happen. I really just wanted to be part of this 8 page (so far) thread.


I never really felt like a part of this thread.
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Postby KDOUBLEU » Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:41 am

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KDOUBLEU wrote:I really dont have anything to say about this other than it is starting to sound like it is really going to happen. I really just wanted to be part of this 8 page (so far) thread.


I never really felt like a part of this thread.
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Postby StoneCold » Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:59 am

swataz wrote:To paraphrase Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack:

"Hey Steve, while we're young!"


Too late for that.

I tell ya, we get no respect!


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Postby mikemarrs » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:07 am

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SP Fan in Oregon wrote:Unfortunately, Perry is a singer who is known for his incredible range and high notes. People would expect this from him, and who knows if he could still deliver. In every sense of the word, I hope your right. I believe that he's done and it's a longshot for him. When people think Steve Perry, people think 1980 Steve Perry. That's where it needs to be realized that he is an old man now, although reportedly in good shape.. every shaving of a year older, it'll just get worse and harder for his comeback.

Wow, you must have missed the airport picture. If that's an "old man" in that picture, you need glasses bad YOUNGJRNY. :wink:

60 is a number, and has NOTHING to do with physical age or attitude. Some people have found the fountain of youth and I get the feeling SP is one of those people.

IMO, He's going to blow you all away with his beautiful voice, albeit, not the 1980's voice!


LOL, I love your attitude. I really do. But, it is what it is. A silhouetted Steve Perry sitting on a stole doesn't prove anything of what physical condition he is in, or if he can still hit the notes in DSB. Just because he still has black hair, and wearing coattails doesn't clear the fact and reality that the man is 60 years old! There is no indication that he can't do it.. and there CERTAINLY isn't any indication that he can. It's all speculation.

I want him to prove me wrong.. but what other explanation is there that this guy hasn't done squat for over a decade? That right there PROVES that something isn't right with the man's ability to live up to expectations. In today's day in age, lucky for him, he could side step any obscurity he has in his voice with the studio production, but as far as a tour would go, I don't think he would be able to do many. 5 at an absolute MAX if it ever came to be.
There could be a number of reasons he hasn't produced anything in a decade, including perhaps a non compete clause in his contract with Journey given he was paid as a member of the band. That contract just expired...let's see.....a year ago? And he's been writing how long? About a year and a half, he said?

All I'm saying is you can't assume that the reason he hasn't had an album in the last decade automatically has to do with his voice.



steve always talked of being burned out.i'm pretty sure between the time after he recorded trial by fire in 1996 or so between 2008 he had about twelve long years to sit back,reflect,go see ball games or catch a show,etc. i can't see how he isn't itching to prove himself again.i think he might want to put out something new to show neal and jon that although they did fairly well with revelation that maybe steve thinks he can put out some things now and still score a hit record too.
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Postby JasonD » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:19 am

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SP Fan in Oregon wrote: my speculation is that he hasn't produced a new CD during that "over a decade" because he had NOTHING to say, and he was probably recovering emotionally from all of the trauma that visited his life


What "trauma?"


Whadda mean, "What trauma?" Don't you remember? It was that one time when he was at a Dodgers game & he wanted stadium mustard on his hot dog but the vender gave him ketchup. It was awful.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:21 am

JasonD wrote:
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SP Fan in Oregon wrote: my speculation is that he hasn't produced a new CD during that "over a decade" because he had NOTHING to say, and he was probably recovering emotionally from all of the trauma that visited his life


What "trauma?"


Whadda mean, "What trauma?" Don't you remember? It was that one time when he was at a Dodgers game & he wanted stadium mustard on his hot dog but the vender gave him ketchup. It was awful.


Hey. Receiving ketchup on a hot dog IS traumatic. Ask any true Chicagoan.
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Postby fredinator » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:22 am

This thread has gotten hilarious :D
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Postby Jubilee » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:31 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
JasonD wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
SP Fan in Oregon wrote: my speculation is that he hasn't produced a new CD during that "over a decade" because he had NOTHING to say, and he was probably recovering emotionally from all of the trauma that visited his life


What "trauma?"


Whadda mean, "What trauma?" Don't you remember? It was that one time when he was at a Dodgers game & he wanted stadium mustard on his hot dog but the vender gave him ketchup. It was awful.


Hey. Receiving ketchup on a hot dog IS traumatic. Ask any true Chicagoan.



Yeah, but Perry's not a Chicagoan, he's a Californian. He prolly asked for alfalfa sprouts on his dog, but the vendor gave him bean sprouts. There was some ugliness (and a lot of therapy). I don't think he likes to talk about it much...Long story short, he's over it now and new music should be forthcoming shortly. :wink:
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Postby JasonD » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:35 am

Jubilee wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
JasonD wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
SP Fan in Oregon wrote: my speculation is that he hasn't produced a new CD during that "over a decade" because he had NOTHING to say, and he was probably recovering emotionally from all of the trauma that visited his life


What "trauma?"


Whadda mean, "What trauma?" Don't you remember? It was that one time when he was at a Dodgers game & he wanted stadium mustard on his hot dog but the vender gave him ketchup. It was awful.


Hey. Receiving ketchup on a hot dog IS traumatic. Ask any true Chicagoan.



Yeah, but Perry's not a Chicagoan, he's a Californian. He prolly asked for alfalfa sprouts on his dog, but the vendor gave him bean sprouts. There was some ugliness (and a lot of therapy). I don't think he likes to talk about it much...Long story short, he's over it now and new music should be forthcoming shortly. :wink:


YES, Jubilee, that's exactly what I was trying to say, but since you said it so eloquently for me,.....well,...... I guess I owe you money. :wink:
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Postby journey361 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:38 am

Whatever the true reason behind his silence no one will ever know, more than likely theres not one reason behind it rather than a number of reasons. But i'm willing to bet that with all this distance between his last project and now, this new project he is about to release into the world has got to be outstanding from every aspect in music and music business in general. He probably is the one musician alive today that deeply cares what the would thinks of him as a artist and as a untouchable legacy. Rather put anything out in the world just for the hell of it, or take plenty of time and get as much right as his ears and friends can assure him, this new CD is going to be above average i would bet. Not because he's been absent for so long, but because his name is Steve Perry. He's had alot of time to write and record in distance and even in pleasure, but maybe that is what he needed to get this with a positive and fourthcoming attitude. Lets face it, he has always seemed to be made of down to earth goodness as far as singing and perfection in vocals, now why at 60 going on 61 would that change. Lets see if i'm right, i'll bet i am.
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Postby journeyrock » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:56 am

journey361 wrote:Whatever the true reason behind his silence no one will ever know, more than likely theres not one reason behind it rather than a number of reasons. But i'm willing to bet that with all this distance between his last project and now, this new project he is about to release into the world has got to be outstanding from every aspect in music and music business in general. He probably is the one musician alive today that deeply cares what the would thinks of him as a artist and as a untouchable legacy. Rather put anything out in the world just for the hell of it, or take plenty of time and get as much right as his ears and friends can assure him, this new CD is going to be above average i would bet. Not because he's been absent for so long, but because his name is Steve Perry. He's had alot of time to write and record in distance and even in pleasure, but maybe that is what he needed to get this with a positive and fourthcoming attitude. Lets face it, he has always seemed to be made of down to earth goodness as far as singing and perfection in vocals, now why at 60 going on 61 would that change. Lets see if i'm right, i'll bet i am.

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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:57 am

Just for old times sake

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Steve Perry wrote the whole album "Escape" on the toilet.
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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:03 am

YoungJRNY wrote:Just for old times sake

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Steve Perry wrote the whole album "Escape" on the toilet.


Whereas Revelation was written for the toilet! :lol:


This isnt true .. I love Rev! Just wanted to make the joke before someone else did :)
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Postby WiseOldTabbyCat » Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:51 am

I am going to force myself to hold a neutral stance towards the arrival of the new album.
If I over-hype myself, I might be extremely disappointed when I hear that he can't hit his most celestial notes. And it's impossible for me to hold a negative view, cos it's Steve Perry!
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Postby mikemarrs » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:08 am

looks like steve decided to become a principal.....

HARTFORD, Connecticut (CNN) -- Principal Steve Perry doesn't believe in cursory inspections. For him, every single detail matters. T's are always crossed, I's are always dotted. Shirts are always buttoned and tucked in.

During his daily morning hallway inspections, he reprimands a student not wearing the Capital Prep school approved sweatshirt with a "That's not our gray." He then quickly peers into another classroom to witness a student acting up. "Don't do it! Don't do it! Don't do it!" he warns sternly. The student retorts "Why not?" Perry knowingly looks at him and simply says, "You're the upperclassman" and with that, the student sheepishly walks away.

It's all part of the daily routine of tough love and high expectations at Capital Preparatory Magnet School in downtown Hartford, Connecticut. It's a public magnet school, with a college prep school attitude. As Perry says, "If you don't want to go to college, don't go to Capital Prep. Go somewhere else."

Perry's demanding approach has yielded big results. The school of just under 300 sixth- through 12th-grade students boasts a near 0 percent dropout rate. That's a stunning achievement considering Hartford is one of the lowest performing districts in Connecticut, a state with one of the largest achievement gaps between black and white students in the nation. According to the Connecticut Coalition for Achievement NOW, an educational advocacy group, black students in Connecticut are, on average, three grade levels behind their white peers.

Capital Prep, a year-round school that is more than 80 percent black and Latino, can boast of sending every graduating member of its senior class on to a four-year college. In the four years since Perry founded the school, he has sent 80 students on to college. See how Capital Prep is defying the odds »

Perry founded the school with the specific purpose of creating a school that would serve students with backgrounds similar to his. Born to a teenage mother, Perry grew up impoverished in a public housing project just outside Hartford. He recalls, "I had to be a principal at some point, or a prisoner, because I spent more time in the principal's office than the principal."


But it was Perry's fourth-grade teacher, Mr. Kensel, who saw the potential in Perry and set him straight. Perry knew he wanted to do the same for others.

"We decided we were going to open a school. We were going to serve mainly black and Latino children, but the only color I was looking at was the color of success," says Perry.

Perry has achieved that by holding staff and students to the highest expectations.

Breonna Arnum, 17, a senior at Capital Prep, believes it works.

"It makes a difference because everybody has the same goals as you. So it's not like anyone is there to pull you back. Everyone is going forward," Arnum says.

Her mother, Waynette Arnum, agrees. She believes it's a particular boon for students of color to be immersed in an environment with high demands.

"When you're in a school system and people look like you, and they're just as bright as you are, and they're kicking those As out and those 96s and 97s like you, you also know that you're surrounded by people just like yourself who are achievers," says Waynette Arnum. "And it's not an anomaly; it's not something that's rare."

She believes that seeing success is imperative, because black children need role models who look like them. Sound off: How can we keep our kids in school?

"For students of color, for black students, first of all, when you look at who your role models are, when you look at people that look like you, it tells us that we can do things," says Waynette Arnum.

In addition, she says black children are too often overlooked.

"I think that students of color are automatically stereotyped sometimes when they go into school systems that are predominately white," says Waynette Arnum. "The stereotype that there's no father in the home, that the parents don't care; we have a plethora of stereotypes -- that the kids have behavioral problems, that the boys should all be put on Ritalin or something of that sort. Yes, these are definitely issues."

These are issues all black parents must face, says Angela Burt-Murray, editor-in-chief of Essence Magazine. Burt-Murray is the mother of two black boys and she and her husband are not only parents, but also advocates for their children.


"It starts with formulating that relationship with the teacher, letting the teacher know that you are an involved and concerned parent," says Burt-Murray.

Waynette Arnum agrees that parents have to speak up. That's exactly what she did.

"I definitely had to sit there and let the teachers know, let the school system know, let the parents know and let my daughter know that yes, I am an advocate," says Arnum. "And, all students deserve to learn equally."

Arnum believes Breonna was overlooked in elementary school, simply because of the color of her skin. It prompted her to not only stand up for her own daughter, but also to join a Students of Color Committee in the town of Manchester, Connecticut.

"There were definitely issues that were particular to my daughter that later I knew would be particular to all students of color. So that's how come I had to be involved," recalls Arnum.

Arnum believes if she hadn't stood up for her daughter, things could have turned out differently.

"I feel as though if I hadn't started off the way I had, Breonna still would have slipped though the cracks, even though we push her at home," Arnum says.

Perry, the dedicated principal, agrees that black children can frequently be the victims of stereotypes. It's the reason he pushed so hard to create an environment where everyone was held to the same expectations.

"In our school, it's college prep for everybody; it doesn't matter if you're black or white. They can see that it's OK for them to be smart and black," says Perry
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Postby moangel58 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:10 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote: but what other explanation is there that this guy hasn't done squat for over a decade?


He got really behind on laundry? :?: :o


OMG! That was a good one, behind on his laundry, I guess people think because someone hasn't sung in years right away their voice is shot. Remember the rumors back in 90's when they all said that he lost his voice and then he came out on tour FTLOSM? bluejean did they ever think that maybe he was behind on laundry? LOL! j/k I liked what you said, got a good laugh. He just had nothing to say, maybe now he does.
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Postby donnaplease » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:41 am

It seems to me that the timing is suspicious for some kind of no-complete clause with Journey. I don't really care what the reason is, though. I'm just thrilled that he's actually admitting to working on something with the intention of releasing it. Whether it sees the light of day or not is anyone's guess. I'm gonna choose to be a glass-half-full kinda girl in this situation. :)
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Postby portland » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:08 am

I am just bumping this Thread......want to see it at the top for awhile :wink:
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Postby stevew2 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:16 am

JasonD wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
SP Fan in Oregon wrote: my speculation is that he hasn't produced a new CD during that "over a decade" because he had NOTHING to say, and he was probably recovering emotionally from all of the trauma that visited his life


What "trauma?"


Whadda mean, "What trauma?" Don't you remember? It was that one time when he was at a Dodgers game & he wanted stadium mustard on his hot dog but the vender gave him ketchup. It was awful.
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Postby Peartree12249 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:40 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Peartree12249 wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
portland wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
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Those are some good stats....he should be drafted in no time! :wink:


With that photo, he might be drafted by the "1970s Porn Star Association of America". :shock: :lol:


ROTFLMFAO!! I'm sitting in a district meeting with 30 other people and the state VP and I almost had diet coke come out my nose when I read this!


You're in a large meeting and you're on MR reading Perry threads?
You might need a little bit of a 12 step program, there, Pear. :shock: :lol:


That maybe true, but it's a very boring all day meeting and everyone else is surfing the net and checking their personal e-mails. The woman next to me is planning her vacation in October. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Peartree12249 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:43 am

Gunbot wrote:
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stevew2 wrote:
KenTheDude wrote:
moangel58 wrote:Steve is actually 5' 8 1/2" tall and he wears size 7 1/2 shoe size, weight??? Looking at him at that Manny Ramirez photo shoot, I'd say 145-150lbs give or take. I loved the interview, he sounded great and when speaking of his mother, he choked up. But all and all great interview. Can't wait until this CD comes out. Should be rather interesting.


Damn, happen to know his waist size & inseam too? Howabout his BMI or blood sugar numbers?
how about his lenth and girth? does it lean to the left or to the right?



:shock: :lol: :lol: Now that's what I wanted to know. :wink:


So , if it comes out that he sits down when he pees, are you going to be disappointed?


Not really, I'm in love with his voice not the man. I have no desire to meet him or anything else. Just kidding around. :wink:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:02 pm

portland wrote:I am just bumping this Thread......want to see it at the top for awhile :wink:


It kind of has wound like an old dirt road snaking through NJ's famous beautiful Pine Barren's hasn't it? This thread had it all.


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Postby portland » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:05 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:
portland wrote:I am just bumping this Thread......want to see it at the top for awhile :wink:


It kind of has wound like an old dirt road snaking through NJ's famous beautiful Pine Barren's hasn't it? This thread had it all.


Bottom line, just put it out Mr P.




There has been some really funny stuff on this thread but to me the best part of all has been no one in the "know" comming in and saying it's not going to happen :wink:
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Postby stevew2 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:13 pm

portland wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
portland wrote:I am just bumping this Thread......want to see it at the top for awhile :wink:


It kind of has wound like an old dirt road snaking through NJ's famous beautiful Pine Barren's hasn't it? This thread had it all.


Bottom line, just put it out Mr P.




There has been some really funny stuff on this thread but to me the best part of all has been no one in the "know" comming in and saying it's not going to happen :wink:
Nobody knows shit, Perry would have said someting in his last interview,time will tell
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Postby KDOUBLEU » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:26 pm

stevew2 wrote:
portland wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
portland wrote:I am just bumping this Thread......want to see it at the top for awhile :wink:


It kind of has wound like an old dirt road snaking through NJ's famous beautiful Pine Barren's hasn't it? This thread had it all.


Bottom line, just put it out Mr P.




There has been some really funny stuff on this thread but to me the best part of all has been no one in the "know" comming in and saying it's not going to happen :wink:
Nobody knows shit, Perry would have said someting in his last interview,time will tell
I think it will happen its just a matter of time. I can wait.
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Postby Ftloperry » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:56 pm

YoungJRNY wrote: but what other explanation is there that this guy hasn't done squat for over a decade?


Maybe he's waiting for Sam Cooke to make a comeback? :lol: :lol:
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Postby Don » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:57 pm

Peartree12249 wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
Peartree12249 wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
KenTheDude wrote:
moangel58 wrote:Steve is actually 5' 8 1/2" tall and he wears size 7 1/2 shoe size, weight??? Looking at him at that Manny Ramirez photo shoot, I'd say 145-150lbs give or take. I loved the interview, he sounded great and when speaking of his mother, he choked up. But all and all great interview. Can't wait until this CD comes out. Should be rather interesting.


Damn, happen to know his waist size & inseam too? Howabout his BMI or blood sugar numbers?
how about his lenth and girth? does it lean to the left or to the right?



:shock: :lol: :lol: Now that's what I wanted to know. :wink:


So , if it comes out that he sits down when he pees, are you going to be disappointed?


Not really, I'm in love with his voice not the man. I have no desire to meet him or anything else. Just kidding around. :wink:


So was I. I just tend not to use emoticons. You have to keep that in mind when you read my posts.
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Postby Ftloperry » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:58 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:
moangel58 wrote:Steve is actually 5' 8 1/2" tall and he wears size 7 1/2 shoe size, weight???


Yikes :shock:

My guess is you've got some correspondence w/ the words "Lee" and "Phillips" on the letterhead.


That would be my guess..... :lol: 8) :lol:
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Postby journey361 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:03 pm

Lets see, 70's 80's touring, touring and more touring and even more touring singing 4 nights a week, 287 shows a year, 3 hours a gig, no internet, no utube. And you ask yourself, why hasn't he done anything for so long. Well, looks like it's time now for him to STAND UP BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. Just ask MJ.
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Postby artist4perry » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:11 pm

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Rhiannon wrote:Less worky worky, more releasy there, Sparky.


LESS worky worky? He no worky worky long time now. He go see baseball, kick kitties, fly on planes, etc., but no worky. He no releasy even more long time.


:lol: Thanks you two, this place makes me laugh like no other. So many witty peeps. :lol:


OMG - I'm gone for months and I'm sucked back in in five minutes! :D

And of course, I clicked on this thread faster than I'm prepared to admit....like, immediately! :D

There goes my morning as I attempt to play catch-up with the Perry Posse.....of which I am a charter member!


We have some new news to talk about! Good to see ya here girl! I see you have risen out of the vacuum that keeps sucking you into work!
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