Michael Jackson ***August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009***

[Rockindeano]

I wonder who will take custody of the children. His ex-wife signed away her parental rights years ago.

She did sign away custody, but during the last case against Jacko, she asked for her rights back- and got them too.

[The Sushi Hunter]

I wonder who will take custody of the children. His ex-wife signed away her parental rights years ago.

Madonna?

[strangegrey]

Paul McCartney fans might dispute it but Michael Jackson may very well be what we can call the last great Superstar. Who else out there could garner this much attention despite not having toured in over a decade?

Come on Gunbot. You know damned well Bruce could and he did. He broke up the E Street Band in 91, and 9 years later reunited, they sold out Madison Square Garden 10 nights, and he actually played the gigs.

Garth Brooks comes to mind also. I don't think Perry would be as big as Bruce, Garth or MJ, but he could garner some attention. The Police did a little bit.

Garth is to country as Jacko is to Pop.....

There are several others that come to mind as heirs, with respect to Rock. I personally believe that Jacko had little to do with the progression of Rock n Roll. I'll agree with Bruce, Paul McCartney. I'll put the Jagger and Richards on that list as prince heirs....wait, Richards aint dying, who am I kidding.

I do feel there's some separation between what some call Jackson-influenced pop and RnR.

[Don]

A little clarity on the Beatles issue

http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/jackson.asp

[strangegrey]

A little clarity on the Beatles issue

http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/jackson.asp

Thanks, that was an interesting and informative read...

[MBPL]

I don't usually like to speak with noted people die, we all are going to "eat it" one day. But, bare with me, this is a bit different for me. I grew up knowing I would marry the pretty, brown-skinned, big-afro little boy with the sad, doe eyes. All us girls in the neighborhood had dibs on Mike. He was very special, and very relevant especially to black kids.

I think when death hits it is not an issue of color, age or talent, however, it does hurt when someone of your generation passes. You just cannot accept it, you know? Then again it was Mike, you know? WTF?

Mike's b-day is 8/29/58 and I am 8/27/59. We did not share the same experiences or diets or illnesses, but good lord!

I have three photos of Mike, one at a record store in Berkeley, Ca. around 1979. It is a photo I took of Mike - when he was black and had bad skin - and I got his autograph. Then I have 2 photos of the Pepsi commercial incident, I was at the Shrine Auditorium in LA when Mike's hair caught fire. I was planning to do a gag video called, "Michael Jackson, King of Pop, Alleged Pedophile and Converted Caucasian." And I had planned to add the photos and poke fun and everything, like I did with Perry, you know silly shit. Now that it is finally hitting me that the poor tormented soul is dead I have no choice but to let the man rest and accept the Lords' will. I am sad for Mike and Farrah as well, but it is what it is.

Later when I feel better I will scan the photos to show everyone. I don't feel like doing it right now. L

[Angel]

Who deleted the "Tito Wins" thread!

it was full of negativity and hostility tito.....its for the best. Walk outside and listen to the birds sing.

You're starting to sound like me....you freakin' hippie!

It is sad regardless of your thoughts or feelings of MJ.

[nolippin]

This is saying that he had a shot of Demerol right before he died.


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sh ... ments.html

An Emergency Room source at UCLA hospital said Jackson aides told medics he had collapsed after an injection of potent Demerol — similar to morphine.
A Jacko source said: “Shortly after taking the Demerol he started to experience slow shallow breathing.
“His breathing gradually got slower and slower until it stopped.
“His staff started mouth-to-mouth and an ambulance was called which got there in eight minutes “Butfound he was in full respiratory arrest, no breathing and no pulse. They started full CPR and rushed him to hospital.
“When he arrived they started resuscitation, giving him heart shocks and inserted a breathing tube and other supportive measures to try and save his life.
“He never regained consciousness.The family was told that he had passed.”

[Voyager]

I guess the big question is, will his band members find a replacement singer and move forward with the tour?

[bluejeangirl76]

I guess the big question is, will his band members find a replacement singer and move forward with the tour?

http://www.youtube.com/

[Jana]

Wow, the estimate they gave tonight on TV, if he had been able to complete all the concert dates, would have been around 400 million dollars.

[Red13JoePa]

Michael Jackson's tunes move people, simple as that. I will always wonder about the Neverland accusations.
But musically speaking when he rocked he kicked peoples' asses, mine included.

[StoneCold]

Another genius here. This guy has a college degree?

AEG Live, which was promoting the 50-concert run at the 02 Arena, stands to lose as much as $40 million if its insurance is not substantial enough to cover what it has already spent on the production, Billboard reported, and one attorney said the company would not be able to recover any of those costs from Jackson's estate.

"The concert promoters can't sue the estate," said Bob Rasmussen, dean of the Gould Law School at the University of Southern California.

"Once he dies, he doesn't have any obligation to perform."

http://www.reuters.com/article/musicNew ... nnel=11569

[Don]

I don't know if it's totally sunk in that Michael is dead. I think tomorrow is going to bring a shockwave of grief to quite a few people, especially those of us that grew up in the 70's. It's like the soundtrack of our lives just had one of the songs removed from the disc.

[StoneCold]

I don't know if it's totally sunk in that Michael is dead. I think tomorrow is going to bring a shockwave of grief to quite a few people, especially those of us that grew up in the 70's. It's like the soundtrack of our lives just had one of the songs removed from the disc.

I'd say everyone in the developed world has some knowledge of or memory involving his music.

I saw his "motown live" appearance on TV in '83 and remember the night. It was electric. Here it is, the solo part starts at 7:15

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xk4mc_ ... n-25_music

In '88, seeing "Man In The Mirror" video for the first time. Same with hearing "Billie Jean" on the radio in '82.

MITM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x33ozb ... the-mirror

[livin2do]

I was never really a fan, but I recognize greatness in Michael Jackson's catalog. He was a singular talent, who took music and entertainment to the highest of places. It is impossible for me to name a bigger star of my generation. Often times the greatest talents are also the most eccentric or troubled - the movie Amadeus comes to mind in ... Read Morecomparison. It is sad that the last decade or more of his life served to tear down the man, but his accomplishments and contributions - like Mozart's - will be with humanity forever.

[mikemarrs]

This is saying that he had a shot of Demerol right before he died.


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sh ... ments.html

An Emergency Room source at UCLA hospital said Jackson aides told medics he had collapsed after an injection of potent Demerol — similar to morphine.
A Jacko source said: “Shortly after taking the Demerol he started to experience slow shallow breathing.
“His breathing gradually got slower and slower until it stopped.
“His staff started mouth-to-mouth and an ambulance was called which got there in eight minutes “Butfound he was in full respiratory arrest, no breathing and no pulse. They started full CPR and rushed him to hospital.
“When he arrived they started resuscitation, giving him heart shocks and inserted a breathing tube and other supportive measures to try and save his life.
“He never regained consciousness.The family was told that he had passed.”

if this is true we have to wonder if maybe he was getting these shots regularly.there were stories that before elvis died he was getting these shots throughout the day and one before bed along with dozens of different prescription medications.

[Ftloperry]

What shocking news today. I remember watching the Jackson 5 and their cartoon and watching Michael grow up through the years. He was truly a great musical talent that will be greatly missed. No matter what controversy he had in his life he was truly the consummate performer. I just hope that Michael will be remember more for the music then for his recent trials in the media and in the courtroom. Prayers to the Jackson family as they try to deal during this most difficult time.

Diana Ross was the one that actually discovered Michael and the Jackson's and brought them to Motown and Barry Gordy. No statement as of now from Diana Ross, Bary Gordy or Smokey Robinson. There have been so many celebrities publicly making statements I wonder if Steve will give one since he worked with Michael on We are the World?

[The Sushi Hunter]

What shocking news today. I remember watching the Jackson 5 and their cartoon and watching Michael grow up through the years. He was truly a great musical talent that will be greatly missed.

Yeah, he was talented but that will forever be overshadowed by all the bullshit he did to his face and behind closed doors at the Neverland Ranch with all the underaged boys.

[StoneCold]

What shocking news today. I remember watching the Jackson 5 and their cartoon and watching Michael grow up through the years. He was truly a great musical talent that will be greatly missed.

Yeah, he was talented but that will forever be overshadowed by all the bullshit he did to his face and behind closed doors at the Neverland Ranch with all the underaged boys.

In the short term probably but in the long run, the music will win out. Sensationalism loses impact as time passes.

As I revisit these songs, I forgot how good some of this stuff was.

Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_hz2am90Hk&

Rock With You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hK3Y1Ehv9c

[The Sushi Hunter]

What shocking news today. I remember watching the Jackson 5 and their cartoon and watching Michael grow up through the years. He was truly a great musical talent that will be greatly missed.

Yeah, he was talented but that will forever be overshadowed by all the bullshit he did to his face and behind closed doors at the Neverland Ranch with all the underaged boys.

In the short term probably but in the long run, the music will win out. Sensationalism loses impact as time passes.

As I revisit these songs, I forgot how good some of this stuff was.

Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_hz2am90Hk&

Yeah your probably right. Right now all we are doing is talking. I'm sure lot's of the same type of thing was happening when Marolyn Monroe died. But after time, all the talk seems to fade away and what remains are the records, pictures, etc. which shows the talent and not necessarily the personal side of the individual. But in MJ case, there will be some explaining to do in regards to the pictures of him. Transforming his once normal face into 10 pounds of unwanted scare tissue is going to be a hard thing for father time to shake.

[Don]

The guy sold one million tickets in five hours, in ONE city. I think there are enough people out there that will separate his faults from his talent to keep his status as a music legend intact.

[The Sushi Hunter]

The guy sold one million tickets in five hours, in ONE city. I think there are enough people out there that will separate his faults from his talent to keep his status as a music legend intact.

Got to wonder how many of those tickets were purchased by people who were planning on making a buck off of it (scalpers, ticket collectors, etc.). For sure stubhub had a sudden shift in ticket sales for that venue perhaps. I bet those tickets are selling big now. How much does a ticket to a MJ concert go for, one where he died before he could perform? I'll keep an eye on ebay and see what happens.

In the mean time:

http://www.stubhub.com/michael-jackson-tickets/

[Don]

The guy sold one million tickets in five hours, in ONE city. I think there are enough people out there that will separate his faults from his talent to keep his status as a music legend intact.

Got to wonder how many of those tickets were purchased by people who were planning on making a buck off of it (scalpers, ticket collectors, etc.). For sure stubhub had a sudden shift in ticket sales for that venue perhaps.

Say a third were scalpers, or even half, thats still half a million tickets in five hours, and like I said, one city only. If other artists could do it, they would. U2 is the only one that I can think of that might pull it off.

[The Sushi Hunter]

The guy sold one million tickets in five hours, in ONE city. I think there are enough people out there that will separate his faults from his talent to keep his status as a music legend intact.

Got to wonder how many of those tickets were purchased by people who were planning on making a buck off of it (scalpers, ticket collectors, etc.). For sure stubhub had a sudden shift in ticket sales for that venue perhaps.

Say a third were scalpers, or even half, thats still half a million tickets in five hours, and like I said, one city only. If other artists could do it, they would. U2 is the only one that I can think of that might pull it off.

My point is there were a number of tickets (a third your estimate) that were purchased by people who didn't give a flying fuck about MJ or his music. Not all tickets scalpes purchased for that intent to sell get sold.

[StoneCold]

A loon can help me out here.

Didn't Perry say one of the highlights of the "We Are The World" sessions was getting to meet Michael?

[The Sushi Hunter]

A loon can help me out here.

Didn't Perry say one of the highlights of the "We Are The World" sessions was getting to meet Michael?

If meeting MJ was a highlight of the "We are The World" session, I would say that it must of been a pretty boring affair then. Me personally if I ran into MJ in a dark alley, I'd a ran like hell. If I were Perry and knew I had to meet the dude, that would at least given me some time to talk to myself and concentrate on being able to look at him eye to eye without acting like there was anything wrong.

[StoneCold]

A loon can help me out here.

Didn't Perry say one of the highlights of the "We Are The World" sessions was getting to meet Michael?

If meeting MJ was a highlight of the "We are The World" session, I would say that it must of been a pretty boring affair then.

I'd heard that in some interview, he said he got a chance to meet him. At the time Jackson was riding high success coming off two hit albums. I don't actually remember the interview, someone told me about it back then.

At that time, there wasn't any negative stuff surrounding him. Maybe taking a monkey to an award show, or was it Brooke Shields.

[Don]

The guy sold one million tickets in five hours, in ONE city. I think there are enough people out there that will separate his faults from his talent to keep his status as a music legend intact.

Got to wonder how many of those tickets were purchased by people who were planning on making a buck off of it (scalpers, ticket collectors, etc.). For sure stubhub had a sudden shift in ticket sales for that venue perhaps.

Say a third were scalpers, or even half, thats still half a million tickets in five hours, and like I said, one city only. If other artists could do it, they would. U2 is the only one that I can think of that might pull it off.

My point is there were a number of tickets (a third your estimate) that were purchased by people who didn't give a flying fuck about MJ or his music. Not all tickets scalpes purchased for that intent to sell get sold.

I understand what you're saying. I was saying even if you remove the scalpers, how many artists that are relevant at this moment could move the left over tickets (500k) that fast for the same venue? This guy has'nt done shit for years, has no new music but as soon as he says he's touring, all these people in London came out to grab those 500k (or more) tickets, just like that without any promotion or promise of new material at the shows. That tells me that as much as we're having his personal life flung at us, there are still tons of people who put the music first in Jackson's case.

[The Sushi Hunter]

I'm still shocked that he's dead. I thought for sure, and would have bet my left nut, that he would have had himself freeze-dried in one of those giant aluminum colored themos jugs so he could wake up in the future, when man finds out how to defrost people and bring them back to life that is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryonics

One thing I notice from all of the media outlets in my area is that they are only posting up pictures of MJ before he had altered his face on the stories they are running about his death. I wonder why that is?