Well, today is the DAY!!!

[steveo777]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

I made premature judgments about this DVD based on those types of vids. Man was I wrong!

[Voyager]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

He sounds so much like Perry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMnRduBdYfo

[Blueskies]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

What a minute, I thought that last clip posted by Voyager was the Manila DVD?

I don't know, I don't click on Voyager's links...who knows what you'll see. ( j/k, V )

[Voyager]

DSB in Manilla:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO2kWg3NJbI

[Rick]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

He sounds so much like Perry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMnRduBdYfo

More than he should. I say sing it your own way with respect to the original. Don't try to mimic. The first line in the song made me want to click it off.

[Blueskies]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

I made premature judgments about this DVD based on those types of vids. Man was I wrong!

No, the DVD sure can't be compared to the fan videos. I am really impressed with the camera work and vividness of color as well as the sound on the DVD.

[Voyager]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

He sounds so much like Perry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMnRduBdYfo

More than he should. I say sing it your own way with respect to the original. Don't try to mimic. The first line in the song made me want to click it off.

Yeah, but people want Perry so badly they go for it. They don't want another singer for Journey. Arnel fits because he emulates Steve Perry so good. It has nothing to do with Arnel being Arnel... it has to do with Arnel being Steve Perry.

[Rick]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

He sounds so much like Perry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMnRduBdYfo

More than he should. I say sing it your own way with respect to the original. Don't try to mimic. The first line in the song made me want to click it off.

Yeah, but people want Perry so badly they go for it. They don't want another singer for Journey. Arnel fits because he emulates Steve Perry so good. It has nothing to do with Arnel being Arnel... it has to do with Arnel being Steve Perry.

Yeah, for the casual fans I could see where that would work. For hardcore fans though, it's kind of insulting. No disrespect to Arnel, I think he's the man, and has done an incredible job. Just don't emulate so much.

[steveo777]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

He sounds so much like Perry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMnRduBdYfo

More than he should. I say sing it your own way with respect to the original. Don't try to mimic. The first line in the song made me want to click it off.

Yeah, but people want Perry so badly they go for it. They don't want another singer for Journey. Arnel fits because he emulates Steve Perry so good. It has nothing to do with Arnel being Arnel... it has to do with Arnel being Steve Perry.

Yeah, for the casual fans I could see where that would work. For hardcore fans though, it's kind of insulting. No disrespect to Arnel, I think he's the man, and has done an incredible job. Just don't emulate so much.

I'm sure he does just as he's told. His paycheck depends on it!
Either way the band catches shit. The singer either doesn't sound enough like Perry or he sounds too much like him. They can't win.

[Blueskies]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

He sounds so much like Perry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMnRduBdYfo

More than he should. I say sing it your own way with respect to the original. Don't try to mimic. The first line in the song made me want to click it off.

Yeah, but people want Perry so badly they go for it. They don't want another singer for Journey. Arnel fits because he emulates Steve Perry so good. It has nothing to do with Arnel being Arnel... it has to do with Arnel being Steve Perry.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think Arnel sounds just like Steve Perry or tries to emulate him in appearance or gesture. I think he tries to sing the classics as written but thats all. I also have never longed for Perry to get back with the band...I think if he ever does sing again he should just do his own thing.. I'd rather hear something new and different from him, rather then Journey songs...he can't do them any better then he already did so I say move on.

[steveo777]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

He sounds so much like Perry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMnRduBdYfo

More than he should. I say sing it your own way with respect to the original. Don't try to mimic. The first line in the song made me want to click it off.

Yeah, but people want Perry so badly they go for it. They don't want another singer for Journey. Arnel fits because he emulates Steve Perry so good. It has nothing to do with Arnel being Arnel... it has to do with Arnel being Steve Perry.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think Arnel sounds just like Steve Perry or tries to emulate him in appearance or gesture. I think he tries to sing the classics as written but thats all. I also have never longed for Perry to get back with the band...I think if he ever does sing again he should just do his own thing.. I'd rather hear something new and different from him, rather then Journey songs...he can't do them any better then he already did so I say move on.

I doubt at his age he could do them as well as Arnel. That's a fair statement, since I don't think Arnel will do them well at that age either.

[Michigan Girl]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

He sounds so much like Perry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMnRduBdYfo

More than he should. I say sing it your own way with respect to the original. Don't try to mimic. The first line in the song made me want to click it off.

Yeah, but people want Perry so badly they go for it. They don't want another singer for Journey. Arnel fits because he emulates Steve Perry so good. It has nothing to do with Arnel being Arnel... it has to do with Arnel being Steve Perry.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think Arnel sounds just like Steve Perry or tries to emulate him in appearance or gesture. I think he tries to sing the classics as written but thats all. I also have never longed for Perry to get back with the band...I think if he ever does sing again he should just do his own thing.. I'd rather hear something new and different from him, rather then Journey songs...he can't do them any better then he already did so I say move on.

You are correct...NOONE can!!!

[SherriBerry]

Went to the only Walmart close to here today (on my way back from picking up my husband up at the hospital - priorites, ya know ). I got a look of complete dumbfoundedness (is that a word?) when I asked, then I got a 'never heard of it' and then a 'oh no, if it's just been released in the States today it won't be here for at least a month!'. What a load of crap - picked up the Foreigner package there on the release date, they've got ads all over the place for the Kiss release next week. I'm betting if I check again next week it'll be there.

Hey Portland, it sounds like your husband got his surgery done pretty quickly - that's great!

[aliaslen]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

He sounds so much like Perry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMnRduBdYfo

More than he should. I say sing it your own way with respect to the original. Don't try to mimic. The first line in the song made me want to click it off.

Yeah, but people want Perry so badly they go for it. They don't want another singer for Journey. Arnel fits because he emulates Steve Perry so good. It has nothing to do with Arnel being Arnel... it has to do with Arnel being Steve Perry.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think Arnel sounds just like Steve Perry or tries to emulate him in appearance or gesture. I think he tries to sing the classics as written but thats all. I also have never longed for Perry to get back with the band...I think if he ever does sing again he should just do his own thing.. I'd rather hear something new and different from him, rather then Journey songs...he can't do them any better then he already did so I say move on.

Now gotta agree 100% with Blueskies

[Rick]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

He sounds so much like Perry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMnRduBdYfo

More than he should. I say sing it your own way with respect to the original. Don't try to mimic. The first line in the song made me want to click it off.

Yeah, but people want Perry so badly they go for it. They don't want another singer for Journey. Arnel fits because he emulates Steve Perry so good. It has nothing to do with Arnel being Arnel... it has to do with Arnel being Steve Perry.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think Arnel sounds just like Steve Perry or tries to emulate him in appearance or gesture. I think he tries to sing the classics as written but thats all. I also have never longed for Perry to get back with the band...I think if he ever does sing again he should just do his own thing.. I'd rather hear something new and different from him, rather then Journey songs...he can't do them any better then he already did so I say move on.

I agree on the vast majority of what he sings, but the first line of When You Love A Woman in the video posted above didn't work for me as far as that's concerned. Sounded like he tried too hard to emulate SP. Other than that, he's golden with me.

[ttango1]

I called 2 Wal Mart stores here in San Diego and they both had them in-stock and ready to go.
I then took a 12 minute drive, picked up the DVD and the new Foreigner(Haven't listened to it or watched the DVD yet on this one). Went to my sister's house and then popped in the JIM DVD. AP has grown by leaps and bounds. His diction is much better than the Rev DVD, he is amped in the beginning but smooths out shortly thereafter. Deen sounds awesome, the camera angles are good and the guys look like they are having a great time.

ROKKEN IN YELLOW. Believe that!

Again, EZ PZ for ttango in Daygo. Just another day of livin' in paradise.

[Blueskies]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

He sounds so much like Perry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMnRduBdYfo

More than he should. I say sing it your own way with respect to the original. Don't try to mimic. The first line in the song made me want to click it off.

Yeah, but people want Perry so badly they go for it. They don't want another singer for Journey. Arnel fits because he emulates Steve Perry so good. It has nothing to do with Arnel being Arnel... it has to do with Arnel being Steve Perry.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think Arnel sounds just like Steve Perry or tries to emulate him in appearance or gesture. I think he tries to sing the classics as written but thats all. I also have never longed for Perry to get back with the band...I think if he ever does sing again he should just do his own thing.. I'd rather hear something new and different from him, rather then Journey songs...he can't do them any better then he already did so I say move on.

You are correct...NOONE can!!!

Steve Perry is my favorite male rock vocalist but I also appreciate many other people's talents as well, like Arnel's...he is a gifted vocalist in his own right, imo...and I don't know for sure, of course, but I figure Steve Perry ...if he has heard Arnel....may very well be complimentary of him as a fellow vocalist.

[Blueskies]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

He sounds so much like Perry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMnRduBdYfo

More than he should. I say sing it your own way with respect to the original. Don't try to mimic. The first line in the song made me want to click it off.

Yeah, but people want Perry so badly they go for it. They don't want another singer for Journey. Arnel fits because he emulates Steve Perry so good. It has nothing to do with Arnel being Arnel... it has to do with Arnel being Steve Perry.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think Arnel sounds just like Steve Perry or tries to emulate him in appearance or gesture. I think he tries to sing the classics as written but thats all. I also have never longed for Perry to get back with the band...I think if he ever does sing again he should just do his own thing.. I'd rather hear something new and different from him, rather then Journey songs...he can't do them any better then he already did so I say move on.

I agree on the vast majority of what he sings, but the first line of When You Love A Woman in the video posted above didn't work for me as far as that's concerned. Sounded like he tried too hard to emulate SP. Other than that, he's golden with me.

Unfortunitely for Arnel, he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. The comparisons will be made when singing the same material as they have been when others have sang it....Augeri got the same thing and so did Soto. People will say that the sound was too close or not close enough and scrutinize every phrase. It all gets overly silly and nitpicky, imo. I just like to hear good singers sing and appreciate each individuals talents.

[steveo777]

Funny
Arnel is a great singer but he sounds too Journey.

[Don]

Journey brings this on themselves. They had two top 30 A/C hits and neither of them were in the setlists the last month or so.

Arnel will not be a household name after the Oprah episode for the simple reason that he's not singing any thing new on the show.
As long as the radio keeps playing the original versions of DSB and Faithfully, Arnel won't be associated with those tunes.

[Blueskies]

Journey brings this on themselves. They had two top 30 A/C hits and neither of them were in the setlists the last month or so.

Arnel will not be a household name after the Oprah episode for the simple reason that he's not singing any thing new on the show.
As long as the radio keeps playing the original versions of DSB and Faithfully, Arnel won't be associated with those tunes.

I agree with you.
When they have an opportunity to be on TV I think they should do the new material or at least one new song and one classic, if not both new.

[Rick]

There are fan videos of the Manila concert on Youtube. Not as good as the DVD, of course...
.. but enough to give some a fix until they get the DVD.


What I Needed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhHqqjJ6CY

He sounds so much like Perry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMnRduBdYfo

More than he should. I say sing it your own way with respect to the original. Don't try to mimic. The first line in the song made me want to click it off.

Yeah, but people want Perry so badly they go for it. They don't want another singer for Journey. Arnel fits because he emulates Steve Perry so good. It has nothing to do with Arnel being Arnel... it has to do with Arnel being Steve Perry.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think Arnel sounds just like Steve Perry or tries to emulate him in appearance or gesture. I think he tries to sing the classics as written but thats all. I also have never longed for Perry to get back with the band...I think if he ever does sing again he should just do his own thing.. I'd rather hear something new and different from him, rather then Journey songs...he can't do them any better then he already did so I say move on.

I agree on the vast majority of what he sings, but the first line of When You Love A Woman in the video posted above didn't work for me as far as that's concerned. Sounded like he tried too hard to emulate SP. Other than that, he's golden with me.

Unfortunitely for Arnel, he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. The comparisons will be made when singing the same material as they have been when others have sang it....Augeri got the same thing and so did Soto. People will say that the sound was too close or not close enough and scrutinize every phrase. It all gets overly silly and nitpicky, imo. I just like to hear good singers sing and appreciate each individuals talents.

BIG shoes to fill. You're right. Damned both ways. If I ever get the chance to meet him, I'll thank him and tell him what a fantastic job he's doing.

I'm not taking anything away from Arnel, but don't you wish you could have it both ways and see what Jeremey would have been like out front? He can sing that catalog as well as anyone.

[Blueskies]

I don't think about what might have beens. It just wasn't meant to be for Jeremey to be in the band for whatever reasons. Time marches on for everyone...Soto moved on doing his own thing and Jeremey moved on with his own band and started working on his own material and is going to start introducing some of his songs in his shows. We do have the best of all....we can still hear Jeremey sing, JSS sing, Augeri sing, Arnel sing and hopefully we will hear Perry sing again as well next year. It's all good, imo.

[ttango1]

Journey brings this on themselves. They had two top 30 A/C hits and neither of them were in the setlists the last month or so.

Arnel will not be a household name after the Oprah episode for the simple reason that he's not singing any thing new on the show.
As long as the radio keeps playing the original versions of DSB and Faithfully, Arnel won't be associated with those tunes.

Couldn't you also say that while he wasn't the originator, that AP live in concert, helps to give the fans a bridge to what Journey offers now?

It's not like the silent majority has been affected by the very vocal minority. It's quite the opposite. Majority rules and the viable proof is the people who have come to the concerts in droves. Alright, I agree it ain't stadiums but are there truly any other bands formed in the 70's have stadium tours? There sold out arenas and concert venues. People see with their eyes and hear with their ears and what I mostly hear is that AP kicks ass.

[Don]

Journey brings this on themselves. They had two top 30 A/C hits and neither of them were in the setlists the last month or so.

Arnel will not be a household name after the Oprah episode for the simple reason that he's not singing any thing new on the show.
As long as the radio keeps playing the original versions of DSB and Faithfully, Arnel won't be associated with those tunes.

Couldn't you also say that while he wasn't the originator, that AP live in concert, helps to give the fans a bridge to what Journey offers now?

It's not like the silent majority has been affected by the very vocal minority. It's quite the opposite. Majority rules and the viable proof is the people who have come to the concerts in droves. Alright, I agree it ain't stadiums but are there truly any other bands formed in the 70's have stadium tours? There sold out arenas and concert venues. People see with their eyes and hear with their ears and what I mostly hear is that AP kicks ass.

My point is that what Journey offers now isn't what people want . They want what Journey offered 28 years ago and on that front Journey delivers. You would think they could find a way to include at least one of their recent A/C hits into the setlist. They just can't do it though. AP can kick all the ass he want, yet during every show, all the twitters say the same same thing. Journey has an Asian Guy that sounds like Steve Perry. Journey is doing well, no argument yet at the end of the day they are all about nostalgia, not innovation anymore. That's all I'm saying.

[Voyager]

[Rick]

Journey brings this on themselves. They had two top 30 A/C hits and neither of them were in the setlists the last month or so.

Arnel will not be a household name after the Oprah episode for the simple reason that he's not singing any thing new on the show.
As long as the radio keeps playing the original versions of DSB and Faithfully, Arnel won't be associated with those tunes.

Couldn't you also say that while he wasn't the originator, that AP live in concert, helps to give the fans a bridge to what Journey offers now?

It's not like the silent majority has been affected by the very vocal minority. It's quite the opposite. Majority rules and the viable proof is the people who have come to the concerts in droves. Alright, I agree it ain't stadiums but are there truly any other bands formed in the 70's have stadium tours? There sold out arenas and concert venues. People see with their eyes and hear with their ears and what I mostly hear is that AP kicks ass.

He sure does. My complaint above in no way takes away from what he's doing for this band. He's fantastic. I've seen him 3 times and while I wasn't happy with the length of the concert in Thackerville, his performance was outstanding. I have an audio bootleg of that show that I listen to more than I care to admit.

[Voyager]

Alright, I agree it ain't stadiums but are there truly any other bands formed in the 70's have stadium tours?

I just saw U2 a few weeks ago in Chicago. They sold out two nights at Soldier Field which holds 60,000 people. Let's see U2 pull that off with a Bono replacement. It can't and won't happen. Arnel is great, and he is everything that Journey needs right now. But his claim to fame is his ability to channel Steve Perry.

[Rick]

Alright, I agree it ain't stadiums but are there truly any other bands formed in the 70's have stadium tours?

I just saw U2 a few weeks ago in Chicago. They sold out two nights at Soldier Field which holds 60,000 people. Let's see U2 pull that off with a Bono replacement. It can't and won't happen. Arnel is great, and he is everything that Journey needs right now. But his claim to fame is his ability to channel Steve Perry.

I'd rather eat dog shit than see U2. Obviously I'm in a minority with that sentiment.

[Don]

Alright, I agree it ain't stadiums but are there truly any other bands formed in the 70's have stadium tours?

Just saw U2 a few weeks ago in Chicago. Sold out two nights at Soldier Field which holds 60,000 people. Let's see U2 pull that off with a Bono replacement. It can't and won't happen. Anrel is great, and he is everything that Journey needs right now. But his claim to fame is his ability to channel Steve Perry.

Bon Jovi sold out all 100 shows of their tour last year.

Queen sold out stadiums all around the world on their last tour with Paul Rogers. Even fucking Meatloaf sells out Wembley, and the guy doesn't have a voice anymore.

Unless your replacement singer is a legend like Queen had, you're going to be one step behind the big boys no matter how well your singer can mimic the original vocalist.