Andrew gets his Steve Perry interview..

[onmyjrny]

Perry said he has never heard the other two singers. How could he expand on something he has never heard?

And IF he "never heard" them, then how could he know ONLY JSS brought something different?

Right on with this observation! He was obviously coached by his handlers in advance of the interview in regards to JSS, someting I attempted to imply in my post in the Perry on Soto thread.

I think you might need to go back and re-read the interview.

One of those singers is actually one of my best buddies in the whole world, Jeff Scott Soto.

Maybe you need to re-read what I wrote. I didn't say Perry brought up JSS out of the blue, I'm saying I believe he and Lora had a reponse canned in case Andrew brought him up.

So Lora is now in on this conspiracy too?
What are they out to try to accomplish...to destroy Journey?
This doesn't fit with your theory on Perry being paid as the 6th member of Journey. If he is profiting off Journey touring, why would he want to destroy the band?

[Yoda]

Perry said he has never heard the other two singers. How could he expand on something he has never heard?

And IF he "never heard" them, then how could he know ONLY JSS brought something different?

Right on with this observation! He was obviously coached by his handlers in advance of the interview in regards to JSS, someting I attempted to imply in my post in the Perry on Soto thread.

I think you might need to go back and re-read the interview.

One of those singers is actually one of my best buddies in the whole world, Jeff Scott Soto.

Maybe you need to re-read what I wrote. I didn't say Perry brought up JSS out of the blue, I'm saying I believe he and Lora had a reponse canned in case Andrew brought him up.

And, maybe you need to re-read what I posted. I never said you said Perry had brought up JSS. Pay attention Tails! I'm basically responding to the conspiracy theorist points about Perry being "coached". Did you actually read the interview? Something tells me you didn't. If you did, I apologize, but I think you honestly need to go back and read the interview again because I believe you're playing off of some type animosity against Steve Perry.

But let me add this - I DO believe that all interviewees are told by their publicists what the interviews are going to be about, and in some ways probably tell them to not comment on certain things. After all, a good publicist will make sure he/she puts you in the best of light. With that said, however, I don't see the sense in Lora or anyone else telling Perry to say something nice about Jeff Scott Soto because she has a funny feeling Andrew is going to bring it up. I don't see how that benefits Steve Perry in any way at all. In fact, I'd come closer to believing that it would have benefited Perry more to have been "coached" on saying something great about Arnel Pineda, since he's current and Journey has apparently had their best commercial success with him since Perry left. That, to me, would make more sense. This other stuff screams up conspiracy theory to me and just really don't get it. I honestly don't get the animosity toward the man or toward anybody else in the band for that matter. They all have done some pretty stupid stuff, but I'm just happy that they're all still doing the things they love to do - and hopefully Perry is getting back into it to.

[NoMoreTails]

Perry said he has never heard the other two singers. How could he expand on something he has never heard?

And IF he "never heard" them, then how could he know ONLY JSS brought something different?

Right on with this observation! He was obviously coached by his handlers in advance of the interview in regards to JSS, someting I attempted to imply in my post in the Perry on Soto thread.

I think you might need to go back and re-read the interview.

One of those singers is actually one of my best buddies in the whole world, Jeff Scott Soto.

Maybe you need to re-read what I wrote. I didn't say Perry brought up JSS out of the blue, I'm saying I believe he and Lora had a reponse canned in case Andrew brought him up.

So Lora is now in on this conspiracy too?

What are they out to try to accomplish...to destroy Journey?
This doesn't fit with your theory on Perry being paid as the 6th member of Journey. If he is profiting off Journey touring, why would he want to destroy the band?

That wasn't my theory (meaning I didn't come up with it), but wasn't there some evidence that this was the case up through 2005 or so? I believe it supposedly came to an end at that point. Perhaps it was Herbie who had confirmed it. If so maybe I have put too much stock into what he said, which could be the reason I hesitate to take everything Perry (and his team) says and does at face value. Maybe I'm unjustly expecting him to be the "jive MF'er" Herbie said he was.

[NoMoreTails]

And, maybe you need to re-read what I posted. I never said you said Perry had brought up JSS. Pay attention Tails!

Fair enough, I jumped to the wrong conclusion...

I'm basically responding to the conspiracy theorist points about Perry being "coached". Did you actually read the interview? Something tells me you didn't. If you did, I apologize, but I think you honestly need to go back and read the interview again because I believe you're playing off of some type animosity against Steve Perry.

Yes, I'm ashamed to admit I was interested enough to bother reading this oozing love fest of melodramatic compliments to and sweet replies from Sir His Lordship. I did enjoy the parts about his struggles regarding whether he would be able to perform from one day to the next, feelings on Journey moving on without him in 98 vs now, etc.

But let me add this - I DO believe that all interviewees are told by their publicists what the interviews are going to be about, and in some ways probably tell them to not comment on certain things. After all, a good publicist will make sure he/she puts you in the best of light. With that said, however, I don't see the sense in Lora or anyone else telling Perry to say something nice about Jeff Scott Soto because she has a funny feeling Andrew is going to bring it up. I don't see how that benefits Steve Perry in any way at all. In fact, I'd come closer to believing that it would have benefited Perry more to have been "coached" on saying something great about Arnel Pineda, since he's current and Journey has apparently had their best commercial success with him since Perry left. That, to me, would make more sense. This other stuff screams up conspiracy theory to me and just really don't get it. I honestly don't get the animosity toward the man or toward anybody else in the band for that matter. They all have done some pretty stupid stuff, but I'm just happy that they're all still doing the things they love to do - and hopefully Perry is getting back into it to.

The hole in your theory here, in my opinion, is that Perry would never acknowledge anything positive or successful about a Journey that doesn’t include him. My take is that he is being complimentary about JSS only because it implies that Journey messed up by not going with him permanently.

[Michigan Girl]

The hole in your theory here, in my opinion, is that Perry would never acknowledge anything positive or successful about a Journey that doesn’t include him. My take is that he is being complimentary about JSS only because it implies that Journey messed up by not going with him permanently.

There hasn't been anything successful about a Journey without him, why should he!?!
This has been discussed to death ...everything successful about the band named Journey
has Steve Perry's name written SOMEwhere

[Arkansas]

My take is that he is being complimentary about JSS only because it implies that Journey messed up by not going with him permanently.

I think you have to go back to the VH1 interview - "don't crack the stone", or whatever, where Perry said he told them to go do something different and/or take a different name. I think in the MR interview he suggests that keeping JSS in Journey would be doing something else, growing in a different direction, etc. With Augeri or Pineda, they're still doing Perry Journey. And he's not going to give anyone any credit for that.


later~

[onmyjrny]

Yoda is right on this: it would have been much more beneficial for Perry to rave about Arnel and the new line up and try to convince the fans (who may have taken Perry's side) to start checking out the band again. At least it would be if he is getting paid as the 6th member of Journey.

All of these conspiracy theorists are so busy trying to shoot Perry down that their theories are contradicting one another.

There are people on here that believe that Perry's life goal has been nothing but to try to destroy Journey. But Journey is his primary reason for success and his cash cow; why on earth would he want this destroyed?

[NoMoreTails]

The hole in your theory here, in my opinion, is that Perry would never acknowledge anything positive or successful about a Journey that doesn’t include him. My take is that he is being complimentary about JSS only because it implies that Journey messed up by not going with him permanently.

There hasn't been anything successful about a Journey without him, why should he!?!
This has been discussed to death ...everything successful about the band named Journey
has Steve Perry's name written SOMEwhere

I would say a platinum Revelation, especially given sales figures overall in this day vs the 80s, and several well selling tours, eclipsed only by a couple of bands in their genre is a measure of great success...but you'd probably give Perry the credit for the live achievement award even though there would be no award (for NEAL --not Perry--to accept) if they hadn't toured since 1986.

....oh, no reply necessary as I'll give you this and I'm out for the day in a moment as well...Perry's name is in the writing credits on disc two of Revs....

[RedWingFan]

Shouldn't all you Perry haters be hitting all the local Walmarts buying up all copies of Eclipse in the hopes that will prompt Neil to shit out a sequel?

[portland]

Shouldn't all you Perry haters be hitting all the local Walmarts buying up all copies of Eclipse in the hopes that will prompt Neil to shit out a sequel?

[Don]

I'm pretty sure it's obligatory for every label to send one copy of their product to all the persons listed in the credits. I also wouldn't be surprised if Perry (and Augeri) got some kind of RIAA certificate for when Revelation hit platinum.

[Yoda]

Yes, I'm ashamed to admit I was interested enough to bother reading this oozing love fest of melodramatic compliments to and sweet replies from Sir His Lordship. I did enjoy the parts about his struggles regarding whether he would be able to perform from one day to the next, feelings on Journey moving on without him in 98 vs now, etc.

The force is strong with this one!

The hole in your theory here, in my opinion, is that Perry would never acknowledge anything positive or successful about a Journey that doesn’t include him.

Why would he want to? The only thing he really needs to comment on are the contributions that he gave to the band. Why would he need to validate anything with the band that doesn't include something he was a part of? The fact that he said it's "really OK" with Journey going out and performing for people without him speaks volumes that despite what's happened, Perry is OK with Journey moving on without him, and Perry is OK taking the road he's taken to get to where he's out right now in his life. That's enough for me. I don't need validation from Steve Perry to feel good about listening and liking music Post his departure. If it sounds good, I'll listen to it. If it doesn't, I won't.

My take is that he is being complimentary about JSS only because it implies that Journey messed up by not going with him permanently.

I don't believe Perry is purposely trying to take a stab at Journey for not keeping JSS. If he wanted to throw some backhanded comment towards them, he could have just said all singers after him sucks something awful and be done with it. I'm not trying to read too much into what I think Perry was saying. I'm just taking everything at face value. Whether if there's some type of motivate behind those words or if he's sincere has no affect on me in the least. I'd rather assume he's OK with the band moving on, likes JSS, and is in a better place in his life. Nobody is a victim or villain.

[portland]

I would think if Perry wanted to take down Neal and Jon....he would just stop approving the use of all things Journey that they need him to sign off on. NoMo$$$$$$$$


It seems to me he is working on the legacy and Neal and Jon benefit from this....we all do.


I sometimes wonder why the Loons get the bad rep around this place....it's some of the Perry hateful that seem to have the vivid conspiracy theories of what Perry has done to the members of the band.

[Jana]

My take is that he is being complimentary about JSS only because it implies that Journey messed up by not going with him permanently.

I think you have to go back to the VH1 interview - "don't crack the stone", or whatever, where Perry said he told them to go do something different and/or take a different name. I think in the MR interview he suggests that keeping JSS in Journey would be doing something else, growing in a different direction, etc. With Augeri or Pineda, they're still doing Perry Journey. And he's not going to give anyone any credit for that.


later~

He probably hates how good Arrival was. It was a beautiful direction.

[Deb]

Maybe you need to re-read what I wrote. I didn't say Perry brought up JSS out of the blue, I'm saying I believe he and Lora had a reponse canned in case Andrew brought him up.

LMAO NMT, this makes me laugh. Seriously? You and SJ and your conspiracy theories. Can just see it......... Steve and Lora in the back corner of some dark coffee shop, cloaked in secrecy, Lora whispering......."ok Steve, if Andrew asks you this, you say that, and if he asks you that, say this....got it?" As if!

[Lora]

I didn't say Perry brought up JSS out of the blue, I'm saying I believe he and Lora had a reponse canned in case Andrew brought him up.

Seriously? I hate to burst your conspiracy theory bubble but no one coached anyone on anything. Andrew brought up Jeff so Steve commented on him. Steve has heard Jeff's material in the past. He has also heard from Cyndy, me and other friends, that we are fans of Jeff's work. I don't get why people are zeroing in on this as if it had some huge significance. He hasn't heard Jeff's work - or any of the other singers work - with Journey. He was just commenting on what he has heard in the past from Jeff and on Jeff's reputation.

These phone interviews are being set up to bring awareness to the new releases but there is no list of questions provided to anyone. It's pretty obvious from Andrew's interview that this stuff was off the cuff and just went where it went.

[portland]

Maybe you need to re-read what I wrote. I didn't say Perry brought up JSS out of the blue, I'm saying I believe he and Lora had a reponse canned in case Andrew brought him up.

LMAO NMT, this makes me laugh. Seriously? You and SJ and your conspiracy theories. Can just see it......... Steve and Lora in the back corner of some dark coffee shop, cloaked in secrecy, Lora whispering......."ok Steve, if Andrew asks you this, you say that, and if he asks you that, say this....got it?" As if!

Well SJ seems to be on hiatus....so someone must feel the need to fill the void.

[Rockindeano]

My take is that he is being complimentary about JSS only because it implies that Journey messed up by not going with him permanently.

I think you have to go back to the VH1 interview - "don't crack the stone", or whatever, where Perry said he told them to go do something different and/or take a different name. I think in the MR interview he suggests that keeping JSS in Journey would be doing something else, growing in a different direction, etc. With Augeri or Pineda, they're still doing Perry Journey. And he's not going to give anyone any credit for that.


later~

He probably hates how good Arrival was. It was a beautiful direction.

Yeah, ooookkkkk. Arrival isn't half as good as anything a Perry recorded disc is. You must be fucking high to think otherwise. LOL, Espee upset because Arrival was so damned great. Good fucking grief. Top 10 most stupidest shit ever typed on this message board. I just bet Perry is petrified to hear Pineda maime one of his songs yet again too.

[Jana]

Sorry, Deano, but he brings up their direction. Arrival was their first album after him, and I think Arrival was a great and natural evolution of Journey's sound.

[Michigan Girl]

The hole in your theory here, in my opinion, is that Perry would never acknowledge anything positive or successful about a Journey that doesn’t include him. My take is that he is being complimentary about JSS only because it implies that Journey messed up by not going with him permanently.

There hasn't been anything successful about a Journey without him, why should he!?!
This has been discussed to death ...everything successful about the band named Journey
has Steve Perry's name written SOMEwhere

I would say a platinum Revelation, especially given sales figures overall in this day vs the 80s, and several well selling tours, eclipsed only by a couple of bands in their genre is a measure of great success...but you'd probably give Perry the credit for the live achievement award even though there would be no award (for NEAL --not Perry--to accept) if they hadn't toured since 1986.

....oh, no reply necessary as I'll give you this and I'm out for the day in a moment as well...Perry's name is in the writing credits on disc two of Revs....

Your previous post was silly enough to last all week ^^^^is just icing!

[Gideon]

The hole in your theory here, in my opinion, is that Perry would never acknowledge anything positive or successful about a Journey that doesn’t include him. My take is that he is being complimentary about JSS only because it implies that Journey messed up by not going with him permanently.

There hasn't been anything successful about a Journey without him, why should he!?!
This has been discussed to death ...everything successful about the band named Journey
has Steve Perry's name written SOMEwhere

I would say a platinum Revelation, especially given sales figures overall in this day vs the 80s, and several well selling tours, eclipsed only by a couple of bands in their genre is a measure of great success...but you'd probably give Perry the credit for the live achievement award even though there would be no award (for NEAL --not Perry--to accept) if they hadn't toured since 1986.

....oh, no reply necessary as I'll give you this and I'm out for the day in a moment as well...Perry's name is in the writing credits on disc two of Revs....

Your previous post was silly enough to last all week ^^^^is just icing!

Your deflections are usually more creative.
Perry was an integral part of Journey's success, but they're managing to draw people by the thousands even without him. They're still successful, period.

[Michigan Girl]

The hole in your theory here, in my opinion, is that Perry would never acknowledge anything positive or successful about a Journey that doesn’t include him. My take is that he is being complimentary about JSS only because it implies that Journey messed up by not going with him permanently.

There hasn't been anything successful about a Journey without him, why should he!?!
This has been discussed to death ...everything successful about the band named Journey
has Steve Perry's name written SOMEwhere

I would say a platinum Revelation, especially given sales figures overall in this day vs the 80s, and several well selling tours, eclipsed only by a couple of bands in their genre is a measure of great success...but you'd probably give Perry the credit for the live achievement award even though there would be no award (for NEAL --not Perry--to accept) if they hadn't toured since 1986.

....oh, no reply necessary as I'll give you this and I'm out for the day in a moment as well...Perry's name is in the writing credits on disc two of Revs....

Your previous post was silly enough to last all week ^^^^is just icing!

Your deflections are usually more creative.
Perry was an integral part of Journey's success, but they're managing to draw people by the thousands even without him. They're still successful, period.

The way you crawfish around the facts and call it a debate is also very creative!!
They are successful in terms of the DD, .

[Gideon]

The way you crawfish around the facts and call it a debate is also very creative!!

Given our last interaction {in which you bitched me out before running off}, this is pretty funny. Your M.O. is pretty bizarre for someone so strong on the facts.

[Michigan Girl]

The way you crawfish around the facts and call it a debate is also very creative!!

Given our last interaction {in which you bitched me out before running off}, this is pretty funny. Your M.O. is pretty bizarre for someone so strong on the facts.

The facts are simple, giddy~boy ...your Journey, as stated above,
are currently successful for past successes, successes which included the
name Steve Perry ...now that's what my argument was, what's yours?!?!
Unless you can come up with a huge Journey success which does not bear
the Perry name, you've distrupted this dispute just to run your mouth,
per usual.
I don't ever run off, Giddy~boy ...

[Gideon]

The facts are simple, giddy~boy ...your Journey, as stated above,
are currently successful for past successes, successes which included the
name Steve Perry ...now that's what my argument was, what's yours?!?!

That even without Perry in the band, they still manage to draw countless people to concerts. If it was all about Perry, why not go see Frontiers or any of the other tribute bands? It'd be cheaper and more intimate, I'd imagine.

Unless you can come up with a huge Journey success which does not bear
the Perry name, you've distrupted this dispute just to run your mouth,
per usual.

First, your reading comprehension is as lax as ever. As I explained in my post, "Perry was an integral part of Journey's success," in that the material he helped create is what made them successful. But when it comes to performing it live without him, thousands upon thousands of people still show up exuberantly every time they tour.

Second, I don't run my mouth, it runs me.

Third, rein in your paranoia. Only you would take a sentence that begins "Perry was an integral part of Journey's success" as a slight against Perry.

I don't ever run off, Giddy~boy ...

This sure looks like a retreat to me.

[Michigan Girl]

The facts are simple, giddy~boy ...your Journey, as stated above,
are currently successful for past successes, successes which included the
name Steve Perry ...now that's what my argument was, what's yours?!?!

That even without Perry in the band, they still manage to draw countless people to concerts. If it was all about Perry, why not go see Frontiers or any of the other tribute bands? It'd be cheaper and more intimate, I'd imagine.

With a Perry clone, singing the songs that a Perry fronted Journey made famous, sure ( again, notice how the Perry name pops up) ...we still have Ross, Neal and Jon ...the rest of the Journey peeps and two of them contributed in a big way ...is someone trying to discount them?!?!

Unless you can come up with a huge Journey success which does not bear
the Perry name, you've distrupted this dispute just to run your mouth,
per usual.

First, your reading comprehension is as lax as ever. As I explained in my post, "Perry was an integral part of Journey's success," in that the material he helped create is what made them successful. But when it comes to performing it live without him, thousands upon thousands of people still show up exuberantly every time they tour
Second, I don't run my mouth, it runs me.

As I stated... per usual, your post was useless, it held no significance whatsoever ...

Third, rein your paranoia in. Only you would take a sentence that begins "Perry was an integral part of Journey's success" as a slight against Perry.

I don't ever run off, Giddy~boy ...

This sure looks like a retreat to me.

Don't flatter yourself ...Deacon could replace you and do better than with very little effort!!

Oh, and throw in a few of these so you'll feel at home ...

[tater1977]

The way you crawfish around the facts and call it a debate is also very creative!!

Given our last interaction {in which you bitched me out before running off}, this is pretty funny. Your M.O. is pretty bizarre for someone so strong on the facts.

The facts are simple, giddy~boy ...your Journey, as stated above,
are currently successful for past successes, successes which included the
name Steve Perry ...now that's what my argument was, what's yours?!?!
Unless you can come up with a huge Journey success which does not bear
the Perry name, you've distrupted this dispute just to run your mouth,
per usual.
I don't ever run off, Giddy~boy ...

Wait.. You mean that 6th band member...that they added this summer..
that plays the horn...(don't know if she was found on utube)...
didn't make them famous?

[Gideon]

Don't flatter yourself ...Deacon could replace you and do better than with very little effort!!

Oh, and throw in a few of these so you'll feel at home ...

I use emotes to convey the fact that I'm teasing you, that this is all lighthearted. You seem to have suffered a severe psychological breakdown and since then if anyone disagrees with you about Steve Perry and Journey, you erupt in a bitchfest that would make Deano green with envy.

I thought the middle aged were supposed to be wise and mature... this is a forum, you shouldn't take this shit so personally. So the bottom line for me MG is that I'm truthfully fond of you still, I love reading your opinions, and I know its mutual. You can't fool me.

I look forward to your next retreat.

[artist4perry]

I didn't say Perry brought up JSS out of the blue, I'm saying I believe he and Lora had a reponse canned in case Andrew brought him up.

Seriously? I hate to burst your conspiracy theory bubble but no one coached anyone on anything. Andrew brought up Jeff so Steve commented on him. Steve has heard Jeff's material in the past. He has also heard from Cyndy, me and other friends, that we are fans of Jeff's work. I don't get why people are zeroing in on this as if it had some huge significance. He hasn't heard Jeff's work - or any of the other singers work - with Journey. He was just commenting on what he has heard in the past from Jeff and on Jeff's reputation.

These phone interviews are being set up to bring awareness to the new releases but there is no list of questions provided to anyone. It's pretty obvious from Andrew's interview that this stuff was off the cuff and just went where it went.

Lora, you know what a little trouble maker you are. You know, the coffee meetings with Perry just to stir the stink. How are your cats? By the way, miss you on here! I need a new photo so I can try and do better justice of you!

[artist4perry]

By the way Illustrious Wombat. I am impressed. Congrats.