More "Generations" News....

[The_Noble_Cause]

............aside from the fact that you, Noble Cause, ran Augeri down in a recent topic and had others posting a preference to Augeri as frontman.

Big difference between "running Augeri down" and giving an honest, objective opinion.
I simply stated that I like the vocals of Kevin Chalfant even moreso than those of Steve Augeri. That's not being nasty, that's just stating my opinion. Unlike you I am a free thinker and am not afraid of marching out of lockstep with what the majority of fandom holds to be true.
I'm sorry that "objectivity" is such an anathema for you.
Remind me to interject more of it.

Your topic was mean and more nasty than anything the Perrypeople might post.

I'm tired of your lies.
Every person that commented on that thread of mine had nothing but GREAT things to say about Augeri. The thread was intended to discuss the other candidates that were bandied about for the vacated position of Journey's lead singer. Chalfant was mentioned by me and Monker (who is also an Augeri fan) suggested that "Eric Martin" could have capably filled Perry's shoes, too.
There was ABSOLUTELY no Augeri bashing or cruelty going on.
Just discussing who else Neal and Jon were close to choosing.

Y'know, just once, I'd love to see you Perryfreaks rely on facts instead of made-up lies.

[heardonthestreet]

I'm sure that the guys read Andrew's forum and Augeri would have had his confidence undermined to have been discussed in that manner, imo. Building him up in other threads just dosen't do it. You have shown your true colors and it's hard to give any credit to any so-called facts that you might post, imo.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I'm sure that the guys read Andrew's forum and Augeri would have had his confidence undermined to have been discussed in that manner, imo. Building him up in other threads just dosen't do it. You have shown your true colors and it's hard to give any credit to any so-called facts that you might post, imo.

Awwww, so now the vitriolic-spewing, incessantly anti-current lineup Perryhead wants us to believe that she is somehow concerned with Augeri's feelings and overal mental well-being?
Is that it?
PUH-LEASSSE
How stupid do you think people are?
Get the fuck outta here!

[heardonthestreet]

Hey! I despise bullies and you, imo, are one.

You'd better believe that I care about Augeri's feelings. He has enough on his plate without someone like you adding insults to his efforts. He deserves credit for even trying, with what he has to work with.

[PROPERRY]

Perhaps I should be perfectly clear...sorry! Mouth running over is ment not as anything to do with the SUBJECT MATTER but the AMOUNT of STUFF the Noble Cause needs to answer others comments.

Rarely a simple reply but instead paragraphs, much of it wasted on belittling the person as well as ALL Perry fans in the course of responding....

What a crock.

If you look over the course of this thread you'd find that my posts vary in length and the ones that arguably do contain a little "extra" flab are that way specifically because I have to refute all the claims thrown at me by your sicko Perry-brethren.
Don't be fooled here, folks.
This Perrynutbag's indignation stems not from the length it takes me to write my posts, but from the content contained within them.
I call her on her bullshit everytime and the only thing that drives a Perrynut up the walls faster than listening to an Augeri-led Journey album is a little something called "the truth".
It drives them crazy!

You made the baseless implication that Augeri's role as the lead singer had been diminished.
You were proven wrong and everyone here now knows you to be the deceitful and opportunistic propagandist that u truly are.
THAT'S the issue, not my writing etiquette.

NC,

My question to you did not diminish SA or the new Generation CD in anyway!!!! There was NOT any unkind remarks directed at SA OR the new Generation CD either.

It just appears that you didn't like my question because you thought I had "challenged you" in someway. This really seems to be MORE about YOU & YOUR EGO getting bent out of shape because you felt I had "questioned your authority" on the new cd.

It really had NOTHING to do with SA OR the new Generation CD! You got all worked up & then stirred the pot up & got all your fellow friends to join in to help rescue YOUR bruised ego.

Lori

[The_Noble_Cause]

You got all worked up & then stirred the pot up & got all your fellow friends to join in to help rescue YOUR bruised ego.

Umm, I didn't get anyone to do anything.
Everyone who responded read this thread for themselves and came to their own conclusions.
The fact that everyone came to the very same conclusion (that you were trying to deflect the issue) is a testament to your inability to effectively cloak your agenda.
People just ain't buying it anymore, sister.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Hey! I despise bullies and you, imo, are one.

You'd better believe that I care about Augeri's feelings. He has enough on his plate without someone like you adding insults to his efforts. He deserves credit for even trying, with what he has to work with.

But didn't you just criticize Journey's new cd the other week saying it should be named "end in sight" ?
Didn't you say in the "Randy Jackson" thread that Augeri can't pull of Open Arms and is an immitator?

In fact, isn't 99.99999% of your posts comprised of Augeri-bashing?

Hypocritical swine.

[perryfaithful]

Y'know, on the one hand, you Perrynutbags say that the band needs to change and stop being a "cover band" and then on the other hand, you criticize them for any ambitious, creative changes they even attempt to make.

Who criticized? You are speaking for every side, putting words in mouths that aren;t even participating. Basically you are arguing with yourself! Are you that needy for something to do? I have decided that YOU are not happy unless there is a case for you to argue and if no one presents a SOLID one, you will put it in place. Now, is calling folk "perrynutbags" helpful to this board? What purpose?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Who criticized? You are speaking for every side, putting words in mouths that aren;t even participating. Basically you are arguing with yourself! Are you that needy for something to do?

I have decided that YOU are not happy unless there is a case for you to argue and if no one presents a SOLID one, you will put it in place. Now, is calling folk "perrynutbags" helpful to this board? What purpose?

All I did is post a news article for the Journey fans to talk about. As usual, any positive threads about the current lineup is subverted & "spun" negatively by the Perry-onlys.
YOU made a baseless and incendiary implication that Augeri's role had been diminished within the group.
As I refuted and Andrew later verified, you've been proven wrong.
Now, tuck your tail between ur legs and walk home in shame.

Everyone knows what you're doing here.
As "Neal IS GOD" perfectly summated, "too many people who come in here, make a comment "designed" to elicit negative responses, and then log in later to enjoy reading how they angered others, then act innocent, like it wasn't their intent. Everyone sees through it."

Sounds like its high time to for you to find another Journey board where people haven't yet caught onto your act.

[mnmsjrny]

Oh man.....it's goingto be a bloody long year ahead if this is already started and the album is not yet out.

I might suggest a new rule - I'll not yet inforce this, but some feedback from you all perhaps?

As you are aware, I allow ALL forms of Journey discussion here and allow Perry fans equal time with current line-up fans. That's all fair play i think.

However, as Perry has long departed and has nothing at all to do with this new album, perhaps a rule could be added to ask that Perry arguements are left out of all discussion to do with the new album?

They really have no connection - this is Journey now and Steve P was Journey then. Discuss endlessly without a point or reason for sure....but let's keep talk on the new album between those that are really interersted inthe new albumand want to discuss it without getting into the same tired old freeking arguements about Perry's second departure nearly A DECADE AGO!!!

Oh god, yes, please... I'll buy you a case of your favorite Aussie wine, whatever it takes... make it stop make it stop!!!!

Alas, I'm afraid this is a pipe dream... nine years since Perry last recorded with Journey, nineteen since he last performed with Journey and yet everything turns into a Perry Augeri debate.... siiiiigghhh.....

Ah well... I'll just wait in eager anticipation for June and the opening concert in Irvine where I should get my hands on "Generations"

[perryfaithful]

too many people who come in here, make a comment "designed" to elicit negative responses, and then log in later to enjoy reading how they angered others, then act innocent, like it wasn't their intent.

A perfect description of yourself! Oh and sorry, I am here, this is a Journey board. I love Journey!

Now, how much time do you put in at the OFFICIAL journey board Mr. NC??

[The_Noble_Cause]

too many people who come in here, make a comment "designed" to elicit negative responses, and then log in later to enjoy reading how they angered others, then act innocent, like it wasn't their intent.

A perfect description of yourself!

Did you or did you not inexplicably come into this thread about the new lineup (which might I add, you do not listen to) and make the needless incendiary remark "Is there what you would call a "lead singer"?"

That little quip was designedly intended to belittle the new album and to provoke fans of the current lineup. It had no basis in fact whatsoever (as Andrew later verified). It's only basis was in your pre-existing seething hatred for this lineup and ur agenda to piss off the fans here that happen to enjoy them.
Anything you try to say otherwise is disingenuous to the max and just serves to emphasise how unsavory of a character you truly are (as if we didn't already know).

Oh and sorry, I am here, this is a Journey board. I love Journey!

That's funny, you don't seem to talk about Journey very much.

Now, how much time do you put in at the OFFICIAL journey board Mr. NC??

I don't. I was banned for speaking out against bonus tracks on foreign releases and how I (mistakenly, as it turned out) felt it fleeces the hardworking, loyal fanbase.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Who criticized?

Oh, so I guess you'd have everyone here believe that you were genuinely concerned as to whether or not there was a lead singer on this new album (even though you already damn well know you will not buy it or listen to it).

What a load of malarkey!

NOTE: This is exactly the same tactic I predicted you'd take after I first called you on your bullshit.

As I stated earlier,

Oh, and don't bother responding.
As usual you will lie and feign obliviousness saying something like...

"Criticize? Me? Never. I was just inquiring as to wether there was a lead singer. Lighten up, buddy!".

[Andrew]

Ok, well this thread is going nowhere.

I'm killing it now - and will continue to do so for any threads where the same old Perry shite is aired.

I LOVE Steve Perry....the man is a vocal God....but it's 2005 now and he is not returning to Journey, so move on with life please.

[yak]

I didn't mean any harm, Andrew, and I will probably buy Generations. I bought Arrival, Red13: Original design, and many other Journey cds.
Journeytroll

WHO gives a rats patoot what you buy....or don't buy?

I see NOTHING wrong with how NC answered your question. He showed NO HATE, he was not impolite, he did not show insecurity.

Neither do I! They are simply trying to undermine any positive thread they can. NC knows that and tries to reason with them, though I can't imagine why he wastes his precious time. Same for you Dave. You have great knowledge, but they don't want to hear about that. They simply love to muck up the works.

Lori is just a big bag of wind with nothing of substance to back it up. Only extensive copy and pasting, and no reading of the posts she responds to.

I might suggest a new rule - I'll not yet inforce this, but some feedback from you all perhaps?

However, as Perry has long departed and has nothing at all to do with this new album, perhaps a rule could be added to ask that Perry arguements are left out of all discussion to do with the new album?

YES, YES, YES, YES, yes, yes, yes, yes....please do it by all means. Don't let these "people" anger you into shutting down the board. That's their agenda.

[Andrew]

YES, YES, YES, YES, yes, yes, yes, yes....please do it by all means. Don't let these "people" anger you into shutting down the board. That's their agenda.

I won't be angered and there is no way I'll shut the board down, but there is only so much of the endless Perry vs Journey crap one can take.

I think 3 years worth of it is enough for now. I'll play Escape and Frontiers for my Perry fix, but right now I'm all about looking forward to new material from the line-up that's currently in place and I don't want my enjoyment of that soured.

[yak]

I won't be angered and there is no way I'll shut the board down, but there is only so much of the endless Perry vs Journey crap one can take.

I thank you Andrew; you have the patience of a saint with some of these people. I'm not so sure I would be quite so forgiving so many times.

I agree; and I will not let them sour me on my favorite band. There's too much great music coming up very soon. Nothing can ruin my enjoyment of new Journey music!

[JourneyTroll]

I didn't mean any harm, Andrew, and I will probably buy Generations. I bought Arrival, Red13: Original design, and many other Journey cds.
Journeytroll

WHO gives a rats patoot what you buy....or don't buy?

You don't, yet you respond to all of my posts. Thank you, WAK.

Your friend,
Journeytroll

[Guest]

I won't be angered and there is no way I'll shut the board down, but there is only so much of the endless Perry vs Journey crap one can take.

I thank you Andrew; you have the patience of a saint with some of these people. I'm not so sure I would be quite so forgiving so many times.

I agree; and I will not let them sour me on my favorite band. There's too much great music coming up very soon. Nothing can ruin my enjoyment of new Journey music!

Here's a tissue Yak to wipe the brown stuff off your nose...